Re: To The Experts and Gurus [7:42996]

2002-05-02 Thread Tom Lisa
ease respond to "Tom Lisa" > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > cc: > Subject:Re: To The Experts and Gurus [7:42996] > > John, > > I couldn't agree with you more. In fact, I don't think you have gone far > enough. I would tar &a

RE: To The Experts and Gurus [7:42996]

2002-05-02 Thread Brian Zeitz
Knowing what to areas to study for a certification and knowing day-to-day real life scenarios are two different things. A CCIE could just study what is needed for the test, but there is no human being that knows everything about every area of networking, its impossible. Take any 2 people in networ

Re: To The Experts and Gurus [7:42996]

2002-05-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Tom Lisa" Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/02/2002 07:03 AM Please respond to "Tom Lisa" To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: To The Experts and Gurus [7:42996] John, I couldn't agree with you more. In fact, I don't think you

Re: To The Experts and Gurus [7:42996]

2002-05-01 Thread Wayne Jang
Ok. After reading all the responses in this thread and then re-reading John's inital post. I must confess it was truly funny. It's more than sarcastic and it put a big grin on my face. Wayne ""John Neiberger"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > I've been notici

RE: To The Experts and Gurus [7:42996]

2002-05-01 Thread Amir Azhar Jamaluddin
-Original Message- From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 4:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: To The Experts and Gurus [7:42996] You'll have to catch my followup post. I was *completely* kidding! Usually, I'm better at wording sar

Re: Followup: RE: To The Experts and Gurus [7:42996]

2002-05-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
#x27;s why! :) "John Neiberger" cc: Sent by:Subject: Followup:

RE: To The Experts and Gurus [7:42996]

2002-05-01 Thread Kaminski, Shawn G
ul posts depending on the questions asked and the experience they possess. Shawn K. eds.com ccxxproductions.com > -Original Message- > From: Paul Jin [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 2:18 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: To The Experts

RE: To The Experts and Gurus [7:42996]

2002-05-01 Thread John Neiberger
You'll have to catch my followup post. I was *completely* kidding! Usually, I'm better at wording sarcastic posts so that it's quite obvious. In this case, I didn't do a very good job because only the people who know me seem to caught the joke. Others have been sending fairly nasty emails. :-)

Re: Followup: RE: To The Experts and Gurus [7:42996]

2002-05-01 Thread Johnny Routin
I was wondering. I've seen some of your other posts and it didn't seem like you ;) JR -- Johnny Routin The "Routin" One ""John Neiberger"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > I need to make a clarification. I was *completely* joking in my > previous email but appa

Re: To The Experts and Gurus [7:42996]

2002-05-01 Thread Tom Lisa
John, I couldn't agree with you more. In fact, I don't think you have gone far enough. I would tar & feather all posters who fail to remain ON TOPIC!! Especially, those posts beginning with "I have a customer.!" BTW, I am a CCGP (Cisco Certified Grand Parent) in child rearing and will be h

RE: To The Experts and Gurus [7:42996]

2002-05-01 Thread John Neiberger
This is very true! I think we're due for an upgrade to allow for better multitasking. With current hardware I'm used to remaining in a sleep state for longer periods but this child process causes both processors to awaken more often than normal. This excess processor usage is causing some probl

RE: To The Experts and Gurus [7:42996]

2002-05-01 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
>Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 1:18 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: To The Experts and Gurus [7:42996] > > >Hi John, > >I see your concern, but would have to disagree to a certain degree. > >Certification is very important, and vast discussion here in group

Re: To The Experts and Gurus [7:42996]

2002-05-01 Thread Johnny Routin
That's a good one John. This has got to be one of the funniest posts I've ever seen. I'm trying to figure out if you're serious or just trolling. Some of the best networkers I know have no certifications and never will cause they believe that it's all marketing hype and driven by companies looki

RE: To The Experts and Gurus [7:42996]

2002-05-01 Thread Patrick Ramsey
too be honest There's not enough ccie's in the world to support all the study groups... I think off topic conversations do exist but are fairly maintanable and generally do not get out of hand. I would hope that the users of this list do not expect it to be ALL CISCO as the name would imply.

RE: To The Experts and Gurus [7:42996]

2002-05-01 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
IIRC, as the UNIX folk put it, John and his coprocessor just spawned a child process, and haven't learned to deal with the rate of asynchronous signals. They also are getting hands-on experience with the leaky bucket algorithm. At 3:33 PM -0400 5/1/02, Paul Jin wrote: >John, > >hehehe, I get

RE: To The Experts and Gurus [7:42996]

2002-05-01 Thread Roberts, Larry
Larry -Original Message- From: Paul Jin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 1:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: To The Experts and Gurus [7:42996] Hi John, I see your concern, but would have to disagree to a certain degree. Certification is very important, and

RE: To The Experts and Gurus [7:42996]

2002-05-01 Thread timothy thielen
wow... I'm glad you were joking. there were 5 posts while I wrote mine! --Tim Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=43018&t=42996 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html

RE: To The Experts and Gurus [7:42996]

2002-05-01 Thread timothy thielen
I'm glad you're just sending regards today, 'cause I'd send Rebecca right back with your love. What you just posted was 2 things. 1) It was not about cisco equipment, thus by your argument it should not have been posted. 2) It was quite possibly the most arrogant thing I have ever seen anyone p

Followup: RE: To The Experts and Gurus [7:42996]

2002-05-01 Thread John Neiberger
I need to make a clarification. I was *completely* joking in my previous email but apparently my usual sarcasm didn't shine through as expected. My point was that instead of whining we should gratefully accept the help given from those far more experienced than us. I'm specifically referring to

RE: To The Experts and Gurus [7:42996]

2002-05-01 Thread Paul Jin
John, hehehe, I get it now... I have been talking back and forth with others on the post and they told me what you were trying to do. I did not even notice the flame at the other list has started on the NP side as well. - Paul CCIE #8960 (and yes, I read Howard's posts and learn from it as well

Re: Followup: RE: To The Experts and Gurus [7:42996]

2002-05-01 Thread sam sneed
Here, you can put this on your shelf next to your Doyle book after you order it: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0805039376/qid=1020281541/sr=1-2/ref= sr_1_2/102-5369585-3026562 :- ) ""John Neiberger"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > I need to make a

Re: Followup: RE: To The Experts and Gurus [7:42996]

2002-05-01 Thread Paul Jin
John, hehehe, I get it now... I have been talking back and forth with others on the post and they told me what you were trying to do. I did not even notice the flame at the other list has started on the NP side as well. - Paul CCIE #8960 (and yes, I read Howard's posts and learn from it as well

Re: To The Experts and Gurus [7:42996]

2002-05-01 Thread sam sneed
I don't see this as an issue. ""John Neiberger"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > I've been noticing a growing trend on the list for several months now > and I'm hoping to start some discussion and perhaps alleviate this > particular issue. > > As everyone knows we

RE: To The Experts and Gurus [7:42996]

2002-05-01 Thread Paul Jin
Hi John, I see your concern, but would have to disagree to a certain degree. Certification is very important, and vast discussion here in groupstudy is dedicated to Cisco cert, but not everything is a cisco world. I am not saying we should start discussing, the difference between VB and C++ her