On Dec 20, 2012, at 8:55 PM, Seth Chandler chandler.s...@gmail.com wrote:
but in dealing with file locations, dependency management, projects,
Leiningen, all of which are -- with due respect -- very difficult,
particularly for people not coming from an Eclipse or similar background.
In my
On Dec 11, 2012, at 12:38 PM, Timothy Baldridge tbaldri...@gmail.com wrote:
For a project I'm working on it would be awesome to have my tests auto-rerun
after every file change. I know lazy test exists, but it doesn't work with
Lein2 it seems.
(defproject ...
:profiles {:dev
On Dec 11, 2012, at 12:48 PM, larry google groups lawrencecloj...@gmail.com
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I am sorry for the dumb question, but zippers are for looping over nested
collections, yes? Why can't I just use get-in for that? When would I need a
zipper?
If you want to edit trees, using zippers is
On Dec 11, 2012, at 1:04 PM, Brian Marick mar...@exampler.com wrote:
If you want to edit trees, using zippers is often much much easier than
collection functions. I find the code easier to understand, too.
I almost forgot to make a shameless plug for /Functional Programming for the
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On Dec 11, 2012, at 4:45 PM, Nando d.na...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks! I bought and started reading your book. Seems excellent so far, and
wanted to say that I particularly appreciate your stated willingness to help
those of us with no experience in functional programming.
I'm pleased to
On Dec 11, 2012, at 5:42 PM, Phil Hagelberg p...@hagelb.org wrote:
Henry Baker's Equal Rights for Functional Objects paper:
http://home.pipeline.com/~hbaker1/ObjectIdentity.html
Henry Baker was/is a brilliantly just-outside-of-the-box thinker. Many of the
papers at
to adjust
that value to something else.
https://github.com/MichaelDrogalis/zombie
In any case, drop the link here when you find the talk. We should take a stab
at merging these two concepts.
On Sunday, November 11, 2012 6:23:24 PM UTC-5, Brian Marick wrote:
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-utils` contains:
(when (ecosystem/clojure-1-3?)
(in-ns 'clojure.core)
(defn ex-info ...)
(in-ns 'midje.util.backwards-compatible-utils))
Why not? What should I do instead?
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On Dec 6, 2012, at 10:41 AM, Brian Marick wrote:
(ns midje.repl
(:require ...
midje.util.backwards-compatible-utils
[leiningen.core.project :as project]
It worked to remove the modification to core from
`m.u.backwards-compatible-utils` to
the body
(Actually, previous was wrong. The `in-ns` calls seem to have to be at the top
level, as in:
(in-ns 'clojure.core)
(if-not (resolve 'ex-info)
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(in-ns 'midje.repl)
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vectors work if you want to
have a type hierarchy. I wish sets worked, but then you'd have to also have
some sort of destructuring mechanism to bind the parameters.
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(hierarchical) test data that satisfies constraints. I could imagine
the two code bases being complementary. Mine is at:
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I gave a talk on the idea at Software Craftsmanship North America (yesterday).
I believe it was recorded.
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to combinations of predefined rules that
apply to every step, monads are just The Right Thing.
Even if you don't use them, I'm inclined to think monads are a useful example
of how to think about functions in a functional language. It helps you avoid
just writing C code in Clojure.
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I merged your pull request, and I'm now getting up to speed with nrepl,
leiningen 2, etc.
Do you want to be a committer to midje-mode? I'll have to get dnaumov to set
you up, since it's his repo.
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On Oct 17, 2012, at 2:35 PM, Andreas Liljeqvist wrote:
Just to clear something up: Are you maintaining midje-mode?
I thought it was Dmitri?
That's where I left my pull request anyway.
I'm a committer for `midje-mode`.
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myself.
Again: sorry.
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Why? In what cases would a programmer prefer something like the second match?
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IllegalArgumentException No method in multimethod 'collide' for dispatch value:
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[x xs]] :seq)] (str 1: so-far x xs)
[([[ sequence]] :seq)] (str 2: sequence)))
user= (count-sequence [1 2 3])
nil
This is a bug? Please?
(Note: the same thing happens without a rest argument if you pass in [[1 2 3]])
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the need to have some particular argument passed from
function to function (which looks like the `this` in an instance method).
Note: please put the flamethrower down. I'm not saying that looking like
objects is the point of higher-order functions.
I'll give full credit.
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on this. (Arguably, the whole first part of the
book leads up to that chapter.) I even use Point as an example!
But it's functions all the way down! is not what I'm looking for in this
section. Because you wouldn't use such a scheme instead of conventional objects.
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concurrency. Of the various types of concurrency Clojure offers, which do you
think would be most useful to explain? My inclination is: auto-concurrency due
to immutability, futures (I love futures), and atoms. What do you think would
be the right set?
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If Gabriel is still the driving force behind Splash, he'd *like* it to be the
kind of meeting ground for industry and academia that the earlier OOPSLAs were.
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it doing that for built-ins (or just primitives?), but not for
user-defined functions (given the existence of atoms, etc.) I can also imagine
it not bothering for any calls.
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I have been subscribed to a couple of groups as well as other stuff
and find it useful to have a Subject line prefix indicating the source
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I wouldn't mind seeing more in clojure.string. e.g. daserize, underscore,
pascal-case, camel-case
+1
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= (l/unifier '[1 ?two 3 4] '[1 2 ?three 4])
[1 2 3 4]
user= (l/unifier '[1 ?two 3 4] '[1 2 ?three NOT-FOUR])
nil
user= (l/binding-map '[1 ?two 3 4] '[1 2 ?three 4])
{?three 3, ?two 2}
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of this makes any sense to me, and I hope I never really need to
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On Apr 26, 2012, at 12:09 PM, Laurent PETIT wrote:
Le 26 avr. 2012 à 02:15, Brian Marick mar...@exampler.com a écrit :
Midje is getting to the point where it probably wants some sort of
configuration/customization file. Is there any sort of emerging idiom for
those in Clojure-land?
I
force him to
put that in his Java classpath? [Speaking as a Unix guy for 30 years: ick.]
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and its implementation. Does this make sense? Is there a better way
to dependency injection in Clojure?
To what end are you injecting dependencies? (If it's for testing, I have
something useful to say; if not, not.)
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Note that you can mix and match Midje tests and clojure.test tests, even wrap
Midje tests inside deftest, so using `background` doesn't commit you to a
wholesale rewrite of existing tests.
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On Dec 20, 2011, at 11:44 AM, David Nolen wrote:
Are you attaching line metadata yourself?
Yes... What type should it be?
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Yes. I was just adding 1.4 to the backwards-compatibility suite and noticed a
bug. The change-clojure-version script wasn't changing part of the suite - the
part I put the Long-Int regression test in. Sigh.
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= {:status 200} :position
(midje.internal-ideas.file-position/line-number-known 17)))
(midje.util.report/fact-checks-out?))
That compiles perfectly fine.
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I have tried for two days to figure out what is causing the compiler to throw
the following when compiling a macro:
Caused by: java.lang.ClassCastException: java.lang.Long cannot be cast to
java.lang.Integer
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The other two are fairly specific to Midje, so they're probably harder to
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I didn't understand it. I think it was a workaround for something in Clojure
1.1. I bet I can figure it out now.
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testing.
Of course it's silly to use intern the second time: (.setRoot the-var
clojure.test/report) would have been simpler.
Thank you. You've made a user happy.
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What could that exception mean? What's a starting point for debugging?
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On Nov 1, 2011, at 11:17 AM, Chas Emerick wrote:
FWIW, it doesn't look like `every?` has any inlining:
Ah, I see what's actually going on. My mistake.
It's good to hear about how to do the inline check. Thanks!
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*, :dynamic true, :line 1, :file ...}
But you can't rebind:
user= (binding [*copy* new value] *copy*)
IllegalStateException Can't dynamically bind non-dynamic var: user/*copy*
clojure.lang.Var.pushThreadBindings (Var.java:339)
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`def` does work.
Bug?
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dynamic binding in *one* way of creating a new var, you should do it with *all*
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then threw away. But it must be the case that the problem was a stray var
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versions?
That is outrageously clever.
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An unlikely case, to be sure, but I believe this kind of fit-and-finish is
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The previous behavior was useful. I made use of it. Is it a bug that it's gone
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that. Useful code is sometimes given a function object to work
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How about putting the information back on the function? Who would be harmed by
reverting back to old behavior?
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(but not under 1.2).
One thought is variations of code like this:
(if (clojure-1-3?)
(def +M +')
(def +M +)
This causes amusing results because of the quote. I haven't found a variation
that works.
So what should a library writer who wants to honor the choices of his users do?
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the burden of moving a def- macro from a contrib file to a
core file. It even outweighs the aesthetic concerns (which I confess I don't
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the way to widespread acceptance of Clojure, which (for my sake) I really,
really, really hope for.
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when you see a keyword, and what it would mean
if you didn't.
(Sorry for the long note, but this way I get to use some of my B.A 1981,
English Literature, background!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reader-response_criticism
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= metaconstant symbol?
equiv is called with midje.ideas.t-m.Metaconstant clojure.lang.Symbol
true
Why is .equiv called with reordered arguments? And can I depend on that
behavior going forward?
I see this behavior with 1.2.0, 1.2.1, and 1.3.0-beta1.
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Would Have Meant).
It is a hard problem. It's also an important problem.
(In Midje, I've tried to be good about checking for user errors. It's
surprising how often a misparenthesization can't be reported because there's a
legitimate use with the same shape.)
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How *does* one provide dates to ClojureQL for transmission to Postgres? I
want to do something like this:
(ql/conj! (ql/table :animals) {:official_name fred :added_to_service
something that counts as a SQL Date})
Boy I was dumb yesterday
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Brian Marick, Artisanal Labrador
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On Jul 13, 2011, at 6:03 AM, Ambrose Bonnaire-Sergeant wrote:
I've found that (some of) Clojure's advanced features are best taught in
terms of simpler ideas
that most programmers would be familiar with.
+1
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Brian Marick, Artisanal Labrador
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be, and so forth. [I spend a fair amount of
time parachuting into projects and learning the code structure by pairing.
Works pretty nicely.]
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Brian Marick, Artisanal Labrador
Contract programming in Ruby and Clojure
Occasional consulting on Agile
www.exampler.com, www.twitter.com/marick
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You
Pragmatic Dave Thomas, Chad Fowler,
Nathaniel Talbott, and Jim Weirich. We'd do well to learn from their oral
histories of the early days of Ruby.
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Brian Marick, Artisanal Labrador
Contract programming in Ruby and Clojure
Occasional consulting on Agile
www.exampler.com, www.twitter.com/marick
remember the explanation of
Visitor is nothing like any other I'd ever seen.
http://www.amazon.com/Little-Java-Few-Patterns/dp/0262561158/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpt_4
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Brian Marick, Artisanal Labrador
Contract programming in Ruby and Clojure
Occasional consulting on Agile
www.exampler.com
care
about efficiency or Java interop?
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To post
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(indirect-adder 1 2)
= hi mom ; rather than 3
I expect there are no tricks like :dynamic true http://blog.n01se.net/?p=134
that work, but I thought I'd check.
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Brian Marick, Artisanal Labrador
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Occasional consulting on Agile
www.exampler.com
don't have to know anything
about what a movie is except that `critic-rating` and `actors` work with it,
which is saying something like what `defprotocol` says.]
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Brian Marick, Artisanal Labrador
Contract programming in Ruby and Clojure
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essentially that. It suffices.
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for the jar file or fixing this
problem some other way?
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