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Yes, I know about all of this. The problem is that they do not isolate the data regarding "state" when collecting the data. All they have is "hailing port" which can be just about anything. Usually it includes a two letter abbreviation for the state, but it is not captured as a separate piece.

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You can do certain searches yourself, online here: http://cgmix.uscg.mil/PSIX/PSIXSearch.aspx "The Port State Information eXchange (PSIX) system contains vessel specific information derived from the United States Coast Guard's Marine Information Safety and Law Enforcement System (MISLE). The

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It might be a rather complicated search query. You might be able to purchase the complete database and then develop your own custom query. Bear in mind that there are many categories (6?) of documented vessels besides "recreational". The two letter state initials are in the same field as the

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We need SQL access to that database: select state, count(*) from vessel_registration group by 1 order by 1; Sorry, couldn’t help myself :) Cheers, Randy > On Feb 1, 2018, at 9:36 AM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List > wrote: > > Bill — just for grins, I sent off an

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Bill — just for grins, I sent off an inquiry to the National Vessel Documentation Center asking if it was possible to tell me how many documented vessels were in a particular state. I received the following reply: >> This is in response to your e-mail dated January 26, 2018 asking question >>

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Fred, I agree.  That is why I renewed the documentation on Corsair when Michigan declared the use of number boards no longer met the registration number display requirements.  I also did display my Michigan Registration sticker (separate decal from reg numbers) on the mast (each side).

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I’m aware that I have to register in the state, and have faithfully done so since I bought my first sailboat up on Lake Superior. But the whole argument of displaying registration numbers on a documented vessel is something that I don’t think is legal for a state to require, as it would (as I

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Fred, I think that if you kept your boat only on the waters of the Great Lakes, you could get away without state registration.  As soon as you put into port however, you just entered State controlled waterways.  I guess you could anchor offshore and go into port with a registered dingy but

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To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Joel Aronson Subject: Re: Stus-List "Maritime Documentation Center" Matt, Is someone arguing that the 4th Amendment applies on the water? Don't tell the CG! Joel On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 12:15 PM, Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-li

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.com > *Cc:* Frederick G Street <f...@postaudio.net> > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List "Maritime Documentation Center" > > Damn — my “sea-lawyering” has been beaten by a “real” lawyer… :^) > > I stand corrected. > > — Fred > > Fred Street -- Minneapolis >

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@cnc-list.com Cc: Frederick G Street Subject: Re: Stus-List "Maritime Documentation Center" Damn — my “sea-lawyering” has been beaten by a “real” lawyer… :^) I stand corrected. — Fred Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^(

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Damn — my “sea-lawyering” has been beaten by a “real” lawyer… :^) I stand corrected. — Fred Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( > On Jan 26, 2018, at 10:43 AM, Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List > wrote: > >

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:38 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Frederick G Street Subject: Re: Stus-List "Maritime Documentation Center" Matt — it’s my understanding that the federal government has sole authority over the Great Lakes Inland Waterways for purposes of navigation. Are you saying that’s no

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Zone Management) Former DEP Northwest Regional Counsel From: Frederick G Street via CnC-List Sent: Friday, January 26, 2018 9:38 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Frederick G Street Subject: Re: Stus-List "Maritime Documentation Center" Matt — it’s my understanding that the federal gove

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cloud.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List "Maritime Documentation Center" In Colorado, USCG-documented vessels are exempt from the requirement to be registered in the state.   http://cpw.state.co.us/Documents/Boating/BoatingRegulations.pdf, pg.28, statute 33-13-103(1)(b). Cheers,Randy On

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> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2018 08:38:13 -0600 > From: Frederick G Street <f...@postaudio.net <mailto:f...@postaudio.net>> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List "Maritime Documentation Center" > Message-ID: <657170cd-

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The Father Guido Sarducci lesson on preemption: 1. Federal law trumps state law where they conflict 2. Federal law does not prohibit concurrent state law on the same subject matter unless a. Congress says so b. The rules are in such conflict that both can't co-exist. Thus, California has

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State and local authorities often patrol the exact same waters as USCG, enforcing state and local laws. State and Local laws are not permitted to exceed or countermand Federal laws. Also note that in many places, the Federal Government has officially ceded control of Federal navigable waters

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Matt — it’s my understanding that the federal government has sole authority over the Great Lakes Inland Waterways for purposes of navigation. Are you saying that’s not the case? From a US DOJ site which includes parts of the US code: > Great Lakes Jurisdiction > > Also included within the

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. I suspect it’s the same in other States, but you would need to look at the applicable State statute(s). From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2018 3:33 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Bill Coleman Subject: Re: Stus-List "Maritime Documentation Center" Now you

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IS A DOCUMENTED VESSEL EXEMPT FROM STATE JURISDICTION? No, all documented vessels must comply with the laws of the state in which they are operated. The vessel's document must be shown to state law enforcement personnel upon their demand. States may require documented vessels to be

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st@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> Date: 1/25/18 13:40 (GMT-08:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: schiller <schil...@bloomingdalecom.net <mailto:schil...@bloomingdalecom.net>> Subject: Re: Stus-List "Mariti

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;cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> > Subject: Re: Stus-List "Maritime Documentation Center" > Message-ID: <61C5D7DF0F42416982F032D6072D3EFB@jackPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Florida has a wonderful discount for

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e > Doug Mountjoy > POYC > Rebecca Leah > Lf39 > > Original message > From: schiller via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Date: 1/25/18 13:40 (GMT-08:00) > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: schiller <schil...@bloomingdalecom.net> >

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way. >> >> Jack Brennan >> Former C 25 >> Shanachie, 1974 Bristol 30 >> Tierra Verde, Fl. >> From: Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List <> >> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2018 3:55 PM >> To: <>cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.c

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: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: schiller <schil...@bloomingdalecom.net> Subject: Re: Stus-List "Maritime Documentation Center" Michigan requires that you display the Michigan Registration sticker on documented boats.  You will get a registration number when you regist

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, 1974 Bristol 30 Tierra Verde, Fl. From: Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2018 3:55 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Matthew L. Wolford Subject: Re: Stus-List "Maritime Documentation Center" Yes, it’s a sore subject for PA boaters on Lake Erie. The law was change

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:38 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Matthew L. Wolford Subject: Re: Stus-List "Maritime Documentation Center" I also need to purchase a decal from the Department of Homeland Security to sail across Lake Erie ($27.50). No paperwork to process other than self-generated to col

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nc-list.com Cc: Matthew L. Wolford Subject: Re: Stus-List "Maritime Documentation Center" I also need to purchase a decal from the Department of Homeland Security to sail across Lake Erie ($27.50). No paperwork to process other than self-generated to collect the fee. And of course the

Re: Stus-List "Maritime Documentation Center"

-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bill Coleman via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 10:38 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: Bill Coleman Subject: Stus-List "Maritime Documentation Center" Just got my EARLY supposed Documentation Renewal fr

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Correction: the decal price went up this year to $28.24. From: Ron Ricci via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 8:22 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Ron Ricci Subject: Re: Stus-List "Maritime Documentation Center" I also received the notice. Somehow, the USCG Documentat

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is not good enough. From: Ron Ricci via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 8:22 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Ron Ricci Subject: Re: Stus-List "Maritime Documentation Center" I also received the notice. Somehow, the USCG Documentation Center enables these guys by providi

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(978) 877-0369 <mailto:ron.ri...@1968.usna.com> ron.ri...@1968.usna.com From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bill Coleman via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 10:38 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Bill Coleman Subject: Stus-List &qu

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Got mine, too. From: bushmark4--- via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 12:07 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: bushma...@aol.com Subject: Re: Stus-List "Maritime Documentation Center" I received one also, trashed it Richard s/v Bushmark4: 1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River

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t <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: Bill Coleman <colt...@verizon.net> Sent: Wed, Jan 24, 2018 10:39 am Subject: Stus-List "Maritime Documentation Center" Just got my EARLY supposed Documentation Renewal from the "MaritimeDocumentation Center" I think the USCG must

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the “service” offers multiple year renewals. From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Randy Stafford via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 10:42 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Randy Stafford <randal.staff...@icloud.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List &qu

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10:42 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Bill Coleman Subject: Re: Stus-List "Maritime Documentation Center" Yeah I got one of those in the mail the other day too. It’s a different outfit than the one that scammed me last year. This “Marine Documentation Center” was out of Virgini

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Yeah I got one of those in the mail the other day too. It’s a different outfit than the one that scammed me last year. This “Marine Documentation Center” was out of Virginia, whereas “US Vessel Documentation” was out of California. It’s a coast-to-coast racket. Cheers, Randy > On Jan 24,

Stus-List "Maritime Documentation Center"

Just got my EARLY supposed Documentation Renewal from the "Maritime Documentation Center" I think the USCG must have taken heed of all the complaints, as these people have really toned down their ‘Renewal’ There is no amount to pay, and now little bits in there like , This is a courtesy