Re: [CGUYS] In Defense of Idiots [Was: Recommendation for simple OSX layout

Sure, Jeff, but after using both for over 20 years, I've never seen the "generic" PC-Windows that can hold a candle to a decent Mac. I would never pay _any_ money for the Dell laptop my company provides me, for example, and I use that at least 5 days a week. So Jeff "saves" 60% buying lesser comp

Re: [CGUYS] In Defense of Idiots [Was: Recommendation for simpl

>This was first noticed on some generic version of Wellbutrin Sr in >which patients were complaining that they did not feel as if their >symptoms were being controlled the same as they were under the name >brand drug. When studies were undertaken it turned out that the >generics were not time r

Re: [CGUYS] iTunes: Crap or not. [Was: Launching iTunes on Windows Vista]

This comes across as highly biased and judgmental. On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 11:08 PM, Reid Katan wrote: > Quoting John Emmerling : > > Out of curiosity, why do you keep using the term "Windoze"? You used it 3 >> > How about "Winblows"? > > > ***

Re: [CGUYS] In Defense of Idiots [Was: Recommendation for simpl

>Oh my, Thomas, have you uncovered the little known fact that there are bad >people in the world? What new secrets will delight us with next? Once again lacking facts or rationality, Jeff resorts to ridicule. * ** List inf

Re: [CGUYS] In Defense of Idiots [Was: Recommendation for simpl

>I would not have the same level of confidence in cheaper computer >hardware and software until there is a CSA (Computer and Software >Administration) evaluating all new hardware and software, which of >course, is just silly. Excellent point. If Jeff had his way, the stricter regulation would

Re: [CGUYS] Recommendation for simple OSX layout program?

>Sometimes good print shops get bad files from customers and have to redo >them almost completely. Then they get hell from the customer who gave >them a Publisher or Word file, wanting to know why it's so expensive to >print their files. But the higher fees at least give the idiots some incenti

Re: [CGUYS] iTunes: Crap or not. [Was: Launching iTunes on Wind

>This comes across as highly biased and judgmental. Note that Tom does not use such language. (Probably because he is not highly biased.) I don't see anything wrong with being judgmental. The alternative to being judgmental is to be an idiot. *

[CGUYS] OS X on Dell Mini 9

Here's a GetConnected spot with a guy who installed OS X on a Dell Mini 9. It's no secret that this was possible, but I'd always heard that you needed a hacked version and that you had to change out some parts that would void the warranty (notably the wireless NIC). But he does it with a retail dis

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Re: [CGUYS] iTunes: Crap or not. [Was: Launching iTunes on Wind

Tom, I will grant you this. Perhaps this should accepted as a list standard. I would also suggest we proscribe the use of a dollar sign in place of an "s" or "S" when writing "Microsoft" or abbreviating same as "MS". As well as any analogous abuse of the terms "Apple", "OSX", "Mac", etc. On Wed

Re: [CGUYS] In Defense of Idiots [Was: Recommendation for simpl

> Once again lacking facts or rationality, Jeff resorts to ridicule. I thought your posts were set to that by default. Life's too short, beyond mocking your absurdist reality. * ** List info, subscription management, list

Re: [CGUYS] In Defense of Idiots [Was: Recommendation for simple OSX layout

> Sure, Jeff, but after using both for over 20 years, I've never seen the > "generic" PC-Windows that can hold a candle to a decent Mac. I would > never pay _any_ money for the Dell laptop my company provides me, for > example, and I use that at least 5 days a week. Good for you, Mark. Now pass

Re: [CGUYS] M$ [Was: iTunes: Crap or not.]

> I would also suggest we proscribe the use of a dollar > sign in place of an "s" or "S" when writing "Microsoft" > or abbreviating same as "MS". As well as any analogous > abuse of the terms "Apple", "OSX", "Mac", etc. A while back, someone replied to a message from me and actually changed "M

Re: [CGUYS] In Defense of Idiots [Was: Recommendation for simple OSX layout

I got into carpentry and wood working in the 1970s; professionally for a few years. Yes, I tried the cheaper tools. But when they broke or could not produce professional results, I quickly bought the more expensive tools. I could not afford the wasted time the cheaper tools caused me. After s

Re: [CGUYS] M$ [Was: iTunes: Crap or not.]

I use that analogy and will continue to use it. Ballmer is not a computer person, he is a marketing/business guy. Ballmer is only interested in the bottom line. He is the worst thing that could happen to M$, If he does not get his you know what together he will see the demise of M$. I am w

Re: [CGUYS] In Defense of Idiots [Was: Recommendation for simple OSX layout

> After seeing the difference between cheap tools and professional tools, > I am not tempted by the cheap ones, because they caused me to start the > tasks over, or they broke when I needed to depend on them. And yet, millions of professional companies, including many in the Fortune 500 range, man

Re: [CGUYS] In Defense of Idiots [Was: Recommendation for simple OSX layout

> After seeing the difference between cheap tools and professional tools, > I am not tempted by the cheap ones, because they caused me to start the > tasks over, or they broke when I needed to depend on them. Mark, your comments very consistently ignore the fact that many millions of users people

Re: [CGUYS] In Defense of Idiots [Was: Recommendation for simpl

> If Jeff had his way, the stricter regulation would protect us from > defective software like the playground for viruses that is Windows. I like choice and the freedom to choose. You seem to prefer dictates, irrationality, demagoguery and fear-mongering. That about sums up your bag of cheap deb

Re: [CGUYS] M$ [Was: iTunes: Crap or not.]

>A while back, someone replied to a message from me and actually changed "MS" >to "M$" in the quoted text. MY text. That's inexcusable, as far as I'm >concerned. I see our Microsoft minders are taking the gloves off. From now on we must all refer to the Behemoth of Redmond in reverential terms. P

Re: [CGUYS] In Defense of Idiots [Was: Recommendation for simpl

>And yet, millions of professional companies, including many in the >Fortune 500 range, manage to get their work done and accomplish their >goals using Windows. Yes, the 50-cent screwdriver can get the work done -- sometimes. And if it doesn't, you can always lower your standards to the point whe

Re: [CGUYS] iTunes: Crap or not. [Was: Launching iTunes on Wind

> Tom, I will grant you this.  Perhaps this should accepted as a list > standard. > > I would also suggest we proscribe the use of a dollar sign in place of an > "s" or "S" when writing "Microsoft" or abbreviating same as "MS".  As well > as any analogous abuse of the terms "Apple", "OSX", "Mac", e

Re: [CGUYS] M$ [Was: iTunes: Crap or not.]

The main difference I see between Gates and Ballmer is that Ballmer has less vision. Neither are particularly technically-oriented; both tried/try to direct innovation, but neither actually innovated. (Gates is frequented credited with innovations he got from acquiring software rights from start-u

Re: [CGUYS] OS X on Dell Mini 9

Quoting Chris Dunford : Here's a GetConnected spot with a guy who installed OS X on a Dell Mini 9. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FNU81WgGOE They do mention, sort of offhandedly, that there could be some license issues. You'd think if Apple was all that upset about people installing OSX on

Re: [CGUYS] In Defense of Idiots [Was: Recommendation for simple OSX layout

Use any tools you want as long as you are not charging me for your time. My company pays me a salary and I must use a laptop with XP. Okay, but if they paid me by the job, I would not allow them to choose my tools. I never said anything about numbers. I don't much care what tools people choose a

Re: [CGUYS] M$ [Was: iTunes: Crap or not.]

> >A while back, someone replied to a message from me and actually > changed "MS" > >to "M$" in the quoted text. MY text. That's inexcusable, as far as I'm > >concerned. > > I see our Microsoft minders are taking the gloves off. From now on we > must all refer to the Behemoth of Redmond in reveren

Re: [CGUYS] M$ [Was: iTunes: Crap or not.]

I am not saying Gates was highly inventive, but at least he was involved in the programming from what I understand. Balmer is strictly marketing/business. When Gates talked you saw the Geek come out in him. When Balmer talks you see the evil money grubbing marketing guy come out. Balmer alwa

Re: [CGUYS] In Defense of Idiots [Was: Recommendation for simpl

You also have to be Arrogant, insufferable, a Jack Ass, a Never mind, they all seem to fit. Stewart At 10:23 AM 4/15/2009, you wrote: Oh, and if you want to properly channel "House," you'll need more than to call people idiots for not agreeing with you. You need to be not only irreparab

Re: [CGUYS] M$ [Was: iTunes: Crap or not.]

You know I have to agree with Chris on this one. More then once without quoting I've been accused of saying something I didn't say in some previous email, more then once but always by the same user.Now we have user(s) on the list changing what is being responded to? On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 8:4

Re: [CGUYS] In Defense of Idiots [Was: Recommendation for simpl

> Yes, the 50-cent screwdriver can get the work done -- sometimes. And if > it doesn't, you can always lower your standards to the point where the > 50-cent screwdriver is adequate. Low aspirations and ridicule of those > who say "We can do better" will get you through the day. I see you've upgrad

Re: [CGUYS] In Defense of Idiots [Was: Recommendation for simpl

> They accept things like viruses as normal. They > have low aspirations and no desire to do better. > > Quite sad. Nobody accepts viruses as normal, Mark. As to low aspirations, that's pure BS. * ** List info, subscripti

Re: [CGUYS] Capturing a video

I'll take your silence as agreement that my post was entirely accurate. On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 4:48 PM, mike wrote: > So now you are saying Apple has BR support? Explain which part of my post > was inaccurate. > > > On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 4:37 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote: > >> >Prepare for FUD.. >

Re: [CGUYS] OS X on Dell Mini 9

On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 11:45 AM, Reid Katan wrote: > You'd think if Apple was all that upset about people installing OSX on > crappy PC hardware, they'd put more of an effort into shutting down those > hackintosh sites. > > I think they secretly like the unwashed masses using their OS. Sure.

Re: [CGUYS] M$ [Was: iTunes: Crap or not.]

Let's face it, Gates was never much of a computer guy either. I think Ballmer is smart enough to get out of the way and let others do that, putting the office guy in charge of windows development was probably one of the best decisions in 10 years and it wasn't by Gates. While 7 will undoubtedly b

Re: [CGUYS] M$ [Was: iTunes: Crap or not.]

To many (not really me) Gates had a tech-sheen that softened the business ruthlessness. I suspect Gates left any real involvement with the coding process by the time he got the deal done with IBM to sell them DOS. He got much more tech credit than he deserved, probably because he could see some o

Re: [CGUYS] e74 XBox Photo

Quoting Tom Piwowar : http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/bto/20090414/e74_error_(2)_610x457.jpg And?. . . Big deal. * ** List info, subscription management,

Re: [CGUYS] In Defense of Idiots [Was: Recommendation for simple OSX layout

On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 10:57 AM, Jeff Wright wrote: > And yet, millions of professional companies, including many in the > Fortune 500 range, manage to get their work done and accomplish their > goals using Windows. These are the same companies that totally screwed up our economy, are they no

Re: [CGUYS] M$ [Was: iTunes: Crap or not.]

> You know I have to agree with Chris on this one. More then once without > quoting I've been accused of saying something I didn't say in some > previous > email, more then once but always by the same user.Now we have > user(s) on > the list changing what is being responded to? Yes. My text wa

Re: [CGUYS] OS X on Dell Mini 9

Actually my fortune-100 company is reconsidering their Windows-only policy. This has been gaining momentum since many senior IT administrators are buying MacBook Pro's and setting up dual-boot. The MS-sponsored "Apple-tax" is as thin as can be; they must stretch beyond truth to make their argumen

Re: [CGUYS] In Defense of Idiots [Was: Recommendation for simpl

Okay, Chris, I saw that you were offended when someone changed text you wrote and then quoted you. You just grabbed someone's post and attributed it (wrongly to me). Who ever's BS it may be, it is not mine. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- > They accept things like viruses as no

Re: [CGUYS] M$ [Was: iTunes: Crap or not.]

Does it take much of a tech? I mean Jobs doesn't have a reputation for being a big tech guy, just a guy with a good solid vision. I've worked with managers who couldn't actually be any number of positions in the company, but knew how to assemble a good team beneath them. Another thing to realize

Re: [CGUYS] In Defense of Idiots [Was: Recommendation for simpl

> > They accept things like viruses as normal. They > > have low aspirations and no desire to do better. > > > > Quite sad. > > Nobody accepts viruses as normal, Mark. As to low aspirations, that's > pure BS. Sorry, that was Tom, not Mark. I guess my low aspirations prevented me from checking t

Re: [CGUYS] In Defense of Idiots [Was: Recommendation for simple OSX layout

We still have them running the economy so lets keep em on the same computers...why not? On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 9:22 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: > On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 10:57 AM, Jeff Wright wrote: > > > And yet, millions of professional companies, including many in the > > Fortune 500 rang

Re: [CGUYS] In Defense of Idiots [Was: Recommendation for simple OSX layout

On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 12:33 PM, mike wrote: > We still have them running the economy so lets keep em on the same > computers...why not? Hey, they'll never switch just like they'll never change any of their ways of doing business. Steve ***

Re: [CGUYS] In Defense of Idiots [Was: Recommendation for simple OSX layout

>  These are the same companies that totally screwed up our economy, > are they not?  The ones that pay their executives and managers > millions upon millions in bonuses for shoddy work and negligent > policies?  Why be interested in buying cheap computers if millions are > going to be blown in com

Re: [CGUYS] OS X on Dell Mini 9

The cost differences are huge if they are considering apple hardware for running windows... On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) < mark.sny...@ngc.com> wrote: > Actually my fortune-100 company is reconsidering their Windows-only > policy. This has been gaining momentum since

Re: [CGUYS] OS X on Dell Mini 9

Quoting "phartz...@gmail.com" : On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 11:45 AM, Reid Katan wrote: I think they secretly like the unwashed masses using their OS. Sure. The guy who demos and explains how the Mac OS was installed on the Dell says, quite pointedly, that once you have used the Mac OS you w

Re: [CGUYS] In Defense of Idiots [Was: Recommendation for simpl

> Okay, Chris, I saw that you were offended when someone changed text you > wrote and then quoted you. You just grabbed someone's post and > attributed it (wrongly to me). Who ever's BS it may be, it is not mine. > > Thank you, > > Mark Snyder Yes, it was wrong, but you'll note that I already p

Re: [CGUYS] M$ [Was: iTunes: Crap or not.]

To be a leader in the tech business for any period? In a word: Yes. To be a manager, I'd agree that assembling a good team is very good. To be a leader in the technology industry requires more: some vision, real knowledge of the technology and perhaps some underlying tech principles. Jobs and B

Re: [CGUYS] In Defense of Idiots [Was: Recommendation for simpl

>Tom's Rule of Social Intercourse #1: Everyone else is quite stupid. There you go again, name calling and attributing to me things I did not write. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy *

Re: [CGUYS] In Defense of Idiots [Was: Recommendation for simpl

Did not think it was anything except error. I doubt that the person who changed your (supposedly quoted) S to $ meant to be malicious; probably just a fool. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- > Okay, Chris, I saw that you were offended when someone changed text > you wrote and t

Re: [CGUYS] M$ [Was: iTunes: Crap or not.]

>You know I have to agree with Chris on this one. More then once without >quoting I've been accused of saying something I didn't say in some previous >email, more then once but always by the same user.Now we have user(s) on >the list changing what is being responded to? If it were true it woul

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Re: [CGUYS] M$ [Was: iTunes: Crap or not.]

Well that depends on your definition of success. Are you saying Ballmer is a failure where Jobs is not? For not having any traits for the tech world, he's done well. On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 10:14 AM, Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) < mark.sny...@ngc.com> wrote: > To be a leader in the tech business for

Re: [CGUYS] M$ [Was: iTunes: Crap or not.]

Right...this will always help Tom's argument if he can alter what the other person said. It's not surprising he's defending this tactic. On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Tom Piwowar wrote: > > > Bottom line is that they can't continue their good-because-its-cheap > propaganda campaign any furt

Re: [CGUYS] M$ [Was: iTunes: Crap or not.]

I suppose my definition of success differs from the WFBs; I actually mean success. I cannot think of anything Ballmer has done well at. He inherited the reigns of a moneyed company; does it have more money now? MS spent longer than ever to update its OS, and it is blasted for Vista; it is now rus

Re: [CGUYS] M$ [Was: iTunes: Crap or not.]

> If it were true it would be yet another tempest in a tea pot, something > of no consequence. Is somebody writing M$ instead of MS the best > diversion from reality that our dear WFBs can come up with? > > Bottom line is that they can't continue their good-because-its-cheap > propaganda campaign

Re: [CGUYS] In Defense of Idiots [Was: Recommendation for simpl

> There you go again, name calling and attributing to me things I did not > write. Sure you did. It's not my fault that you believe your own PR. I'm name calling? I hope that you have a doctor's note for your literary Tourette's. ***

Re: [CGUYS] RAID for the uninitiated

Well done, thanks. I was waiting for someone to chime in about how we really didn't need RAID : )) Richard P. On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 1:54 PM, .com> wrote: > http://fizzlechat.com/2008/11/11/raid-explained/ > > > * > **  List

Re: [CGUYS] M$ [Was: iTunes: Crap or not.]

>Yes. My text was quoted, but altered. So far, it appears that Tom thinks >this is OK Tom looked in the archive and could't find it. Of course Chris' accusation is conveniently vague so who knows exactly what to look for. What I did discover is that there have been 483 posts from many posters t

Re: [CGUYS] OS X on Dell Mini 9

>The cost differences are huge if they are considering apple hardware for >running windows... Actually running Windows on Apple hardware is a much more pleasurable experience. I was surprised the first time I tried it. Windows blows less when running on good hardware. *

Re: [CGUYS] M$ [Was: iTunes: Crap or not.]

>Well that depends on your definition of success. Are you saying Ballmer is >a failure where Jobs is not? For not having any traits for the tech world, >he's done well. Same goes for John Gotti. What's your point? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Gotti ***

Re: [CGUYS] OS X on Dell Mini 9

Now we have some answers, stop buying crap hardware. On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 11:19 AM, Tom Piwowar wrote: > >The cost differences are huge if they are considering apple hardware for > >running windows... > > Actually running Windows on Apple hardware is a much more pleasurable > experience. I wa

Re: [CGUYS] In Defense of Idiots [Was: Recommendation for simpl

>Some of them, sure, with more than a little help from Barney Frank and >friends... You really do live in an alternate reality. Rep. Frank is a very smart and talented legislator who is working very hard to work the USA out of the mess the wing-nuts put us in. For many years his was a lonely voi

Re: [CGUYS] RAID for the uninitiated

We? Says you :p On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Richard P. wrote: > Well done, thanks. I was waiting for someone to chime in about how we > really didn't need RAID : )) > > Richard P. > > On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 1:54 PM, .com> wrote: > > http://fizzlechat.com/2008/11/11/raid-explained/ > > >

Re: [CGUYS] M$ [Was: iTunes: Crap or not.]

On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Chris Dunford wrote: > > If it were true it would be yet another tempest in a tea pot, something > > of no consequence. Is somebody writing M$ instead of MS the best > > diversion from reality that our dear WFBs can come up with? > > > > Bottom line is that they ca

Re: [CGUYS] M$ [Was: iTunes: Crap or not.]

Right I forgot, in your world Ballmer is a fixer, thug...murderer and thief. But you have no hatred for MS and are ever fair minded. I'm sure next you'll compare Steve J to a mix of Ghandi, Obama and a touch of Mussolini...but in a good way. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mussolini On Wed, Apr

Re: [CGUYS] In Defense of Idiots [Was: Recommendation for simpl

You overstep yourself. Gay bashing? Keep your so called truth to yourself and mind your own tongue. If you want the topic reset, make the request, don't blather about with idiocy and then reprimand others for doing what you are engaged in. Your putrid hatred is getting old, calling names indeed

Re: [CGUYS] OS X on Dell Mini 9

I have never really had problems with running Windows? On many of the systems I have built I never had problems running windows. I enjoy and have fun building computers. I had fun working on Mac's. I am an equal opportunity guy. Stewart At 01:19 PM 4/15/2009, you wrote: >The cost differenc

Re: [CGUYS] In Defense of Idiots [Was: Recommendation for simpl

No gay bashing was intended. I think what they were referring to was Franks refusal to allow Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac come under some sort of supervision a number of years ago that may have tempered some of the problems. No one is guiltless here. Does he work in Washington? If so then he

Re: [CGUYS] M$ [Was: iTunes: Crap or not.]

Kind of reminds me of a joke. What is the difference between Steve Jobs and God? scroll down God does not think he is Steve Jobs. (I know a groaner but hey it is a joke!) Stewart At 01:40 PM 4/15/2009, you wrote: Right I forgot, in your world Ballmer is a fixer, thug...mu

Re: [CGUYS] M$ [Was: iTunes: Crap or not.]

> Please provide a link to the archive of 2 posts that are the source of > your distress and stop with the vague accusations. I don't archive this stuff, and I'm not going to spend the time, on tax day, searching in the online archive. It happened. I couldn't care less whether you believe it or no

Re: [CGUYS] Frank [Was:In Defense of Idiots]

> I think what they were referring to was Franks refusal to allow > Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac come under some sort of supervision a > number of years ago that may have tempered some of the problems. This bit of the discussion is REALLY off-topic, but I can't let that stand without noting that thi

Re: [CGUYS] RAID for the uninitiated

> http://fizzlechat.com/2008/11/11/raid-explained/ I note from the comments that some didn't get it. Just like here! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member

Re: [CGUYS] RAID for the uninitiated

mike wrote: We? Says you :p Ditto After years of single-drive failures that had a poor backup scheme, I switched to a RAID setup. I have had a RAID-10 setup for a while now. * ** List info, subscription management, l

Re: [CGUYS] In Defense of Idiots [Was: Recommendation for simpl

>No one is guiltless here. Does he work in Washington? If so then he >is guilty. I work in Washington. I have first-hand experiences of politicians and government bureaucrats. I know that what Rush Limbaugh tells you about them is self-serving fiction. They are mostly good people. You should

Re: [CGUYS] Frank [Was:In Defense of Idiots]

>This bit of the discussion is REALLY off-topic, but I can't let that stand >without noting that this is a bit of conservative misinformation. That's the problem with off-topic bomb throwing. I understand the necessity to put thing right, but that does take us off topic and usually generates ma

Re: [CGUYS] M$ [Was: iTunes: Crap or not.]

>But you have managed, once again, to avoid answering the question: is it OK >to alter quoted text? Yes, or no? That is obviously a silly thing to do and really serves no purpose. On the other hand it is just graffiti. Now there are places that shoot people for graffiti, but this is not such a p

Re: [CGUYS] OS X on Dell Mini 9

>I have never really had problems with running Windows? ... >I enjoy and have fun building computers. That may be the WFB-MFB difference. I don't have fun building computers. Computers are a tool for achieving my goals. I enjoy my goals. *

Re: [CGUYS] In Defense of Idiots [Was: Recommendation for simpl

Yes people, please stay on topic so Tom can preach to us all and then tell us to shush. Maybe if you called some of the listeners homophobes again you'd win more over? On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote: > >No one is guiltless here. Does he work in Washington? If so then he >

Re: [CGUYS] M$ [Was: iTunes: Crap or not.]

> >But you have managed, once again, to avoid answering > >the question: is it OK to alter quoted text? Yes, or no? > > That is obviously a silly thing to do and really serves no purpose. On > the other hand it is just graffiti. Now there are places that shoot > people for graffiti, but this is n

Re: [CGUYS] Frank [Was:In Defense of Idiots]

Yes, and it makes it increasingly difficult to create filters that filter out the off topic or tech philosophy discussions. Every change of topic requires a new filter... db Tom Piwowar wrote: This bit of the discussion is REALLY off-topic, but I can't let that stand without noting that this

Re: [CGUYS] OS X on Dell Mini 9

On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) < mark.sny...@ngc.com> wrote: > Actually my fortune-100 company is reconsidering their Windows-only > policy. This has been gaining momentum since many senior IT > administrators are buying MacBook Pro's and setting up dual-boot. > > The M

Re: [CGUYS] Frank [Was:In Defense of Idiots]

>Yes, and it makes it increasingly difficult to create filters that >filter out the off topic or tech philosophy discussions. Every change >of topic requires a new filter... So you only want the whiney posts like "I installed the service pack and now have no audio output?" I posted a tech qu

Re: [CGUYS] M$ [Was: iTunes: Crap or not.]

>Speaking of obviously silly, this comment is well past that point. A tablespoon of silly makes the medicine go down. It is not like they made you say "I love well-crafted computers" or some other bit of blasphemy. It is not nearly as bad as the WFBs campaign to discredit me by insisting I hav

Re: [CGUYS] M$ [Was: iTunes: Crap or not.]

This is a very common tactic of yours, claiming because Tom hasn't said something about a behavior that he is condoning it. In the first place this is an invalid argument. In the second place, why do you want Tom to be the arbiter of other people's behavior on this list? The proper person to com

Re: [CGUYS] M$ [Was: iTunes: Crap or not.]

David K Watson wrote: This is a very common tactic of yours, claiming because Tom hasn't said something about a behavior that he is condoning it. In the first place this is an invalid argument. In the second place, why do you want Tom to be the arbiter of other people's behavior on this list? T

Re: [CGUYS] M$ [Was: iTunes: Crap or not.]

> why do you want Tom to be the arbiter of other > people's behavior on this list?' Tom is the owner of this list. You should look at what happened here. 1. Someone said that people should stop using "M$". 2. I mentioned that someone had not only done that but actually changed "MS" to "M$" wh

Re: [CGUYS] M$ [Was: iTunes: Crap or not.]

>In point of fact, I complained to the person when it happened. Then the issue was closed long ago. Why drag it out now? This is looking more and more disingenuous. You clearly want to stop a discussion that was not going your way by starting a backfire over trivia.

Re: [CGUYS] M$ [Was: iTunes: Crap or not.]

> >In point of fact, I complained to the person when it happened. > > Then the issue was closed long ago. Why drag it out now? > > This is looking more and more disingenuous. > > You clearly want to stop a discussion that was not going your way by > starting a backfire over trivia. Tom, as you

Re: [CGUYS] In Defense of Idiots [Was: Recommendation for simpl

> HOWEVER, what does gay bashing and general hate mongering have to do > with > computers? Absolutely nothing, which is why I said nothing of the sort. Oh right, I said something uncomplimentary about a gay man, who just also happens to be a corrupt and power-mad Democratic congresscritter.

Re: [CGUYS] M$ [Was: iTunes: Crap or not.]

> It is not nearly as bad as the WFBs campaign to discredit me by > insisting > I have an anti-MS bias. I have a cunning plan > I resent that intensely. BWAHAHAHAHAHA! * ** List info, subscription management, list ru

Re: [CGUYS] In Defense of Idiots [Was: Recommendation for simpl

>Oh right, I said something uncomplimentary about a gay man, who just And your reference to the "sex offenders registry" was just innocent elaboration? But this is getting nowhere. It is just List pollution. Can we all move on and get back on topic? **

Re: [CGUYS] In Defense of Idiots [Was: Recommendation for simpl

Tom, You should be blogging and/or get back on radio (or podcast) about your technological/social/political views. Also consider comedy writing if you haven't. I'm being serious here. I like the pointed, biting, sarcastic, caustic humor, independent of its content. What do you say? How about

Re: [CGUYS] In Defense of Idiots [Was: Recommendation for simpl

> And your reference to the "sex offenders registry" was just innocent > elaboration? You really have to have a troubled mind to put those 2 unrelated statements together and twist that into gay bashing. Never mind that you missed my painfully obvious example of "guilt by association," which is w

Re: [CGUYS] M$ [Was: iTunes: Crap or not.]

> Tom looked in the archive and could't find it. Of course Chris' > accusation is conveniently vague so who knows exactly what to look for. Taxes filed, I had time to look for this. Your apology is accepted in advance. List: computerguys-l Subject:Re: 7 win

Re: [CGUYS] OS X on Dell Mini 9

On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) < mark.sny...@ngc.com> wrote: > Actually my fortune-100 company is reconsidering their Windows-only > policy. This has been gaining momentum since many senior IT > administrators are buying MacBook Pro's and setting up dual-boot. > > The

Re: [CGUYS] OS X on Dell Mini 9

I was surprised the first time I tried it. Windows blows less when running on good hardware. That's hardly news, what's your point? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, ca