No.
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 5:32 PM, TPiwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:
Do you think Apple's management isn't trying to find a way out of this
crazy corner that their legal department has backed them into?
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I really don't get this. Applying a patch to a working OS isn't the
same as adding oil to a running engine. You probably shouldn't do that
either. So what's the big deal with a restart? On my Mac it's probably
a good thing, since I haven't restarted in a week or more.
Jeff M
On Aug 8,
I've always wondered why gun toting was disallowed in the first
place. If I was a petty thief, the last person I'd try to mug is a gun
toting person. On the other hand I have to think of the general common
sense of the population. What happens when a person carries both a
cell phone and a
After going through this a few times I've realized I don't lose the
files I need. If I truly needed them, they were printed and/or stored
else where. Losing a computer or drive is similar to cleaning out the
basement. Something you don't want to do but are forced to on
occasion. And this
What is the difference between a mailing list and a web forum?
Thanks,
Michael
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Biomedical Writing and Editing
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What is the difference between a mailing list and a web forum?
A mail list sends you the posts that people have mailed. So you
get it as soon (sort of) as people send the email. A web forum
requires you to go out and get the messages that people send.
Like a newsgroup.
For something that
Quoting Jeff Miles jmile...@charter.net:
On Aug 8, 2009, at 3:55 AM, Reid Katan wrote:
That's funny. Every time my MacBook updates, it tells me I've got
to shut down. No choice in the matter, whether I want to do it now,
I really don't get this. Applying a patch to a working OS
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 8:32 PM, TPiwowart...@tjpa.com wrote:
Do you think Apple's management isn't trying to find a way out
of this crazy corner that their legal department has backed them into?
This question presumes that it is solely Apple's legal wing that has
set this whole scenario into
Ahh! Thanks all. I should have thought of this. I've actually been on a
couple of Yahoo groups.
Good points Stewart. These are mostly low tech people. Gardeners and
community organizers. Simple is better.
I'm glad I don't have to digest those manuals.
Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:
Depends on
In many situations you have to.
When generators need to be up they will even change the oil while it
is running.
Stewart
At 01:40 AM 8/9/2009, you wrote:
I really don't get this. Applying a patch to a working OS isn't the
same as adding oil to a running engine. You probably
No that is not it.
I do not want to be looking on the web all the time I have work to do.
When I am working, all I have to do is pop open my mail browser when
I have mail, delete what I do not want, and then go back to what I am doing.
I do not wan to be in a browser all the time answering
Wow. What a wacky take on things. I think the distortions we're seeing
are due to the fact that you're asking the question on a mailing list,
which still has some members that have never done it any other way.
But 'web' forums are much older than mailing lists (they used to be
called 'bulletin
TPiwowar
On Aug 8, 2009, at 12:10 PM, David K Watson wrote:
I haven't read anything about how aged the iPod has become, can
you point me to one of those blogs? On the other hand, every day
I see several articles about a new or updated iPhone/iPod app.
And you CAN customize your iPhone home
t.piwowar
On Aug 6, 2009, at 10:48 PM, Jeff Wright wrote:
I maintain that within 5 years, the iPhone will be a bit player
in the mobile device market. Way too much competition coming
down the pike.
With 65,000 apps available for the iPhone and less than a dozen
for the competitors it is
On Sun, August 9, 2009 10:12 am, Tony B wrote:
Wow. What a wacky take on things. I think the distortions we're seeing
are due to the fact that you're asking the question on a mailing list,
which still has some members that have never done it any other way.
But 'web' forums are much older than
On Aug 8, 2009, at 11:12 PM, Tony B wrote:
These days you do not want a mailing list; you want a web forum.
Mailing lists are yesterday's news.
Choice is good. Both the Yahoo and Google services provide both forms
of access.
On Aug 9, 2009, at 2:57 AM, Jeff Miles wrote:
I've always wondered why gun toting was disallowed in the first
place. If I was a petty thief, the last person I'd try to mug is a
gun toting person. On the other hand I have to think of the general
common sense of the population. What happens
On Aug 9, 2009, at 8:15 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote:
The lawyers are either employees
or consultants. They do not run Apple Corp. unless something is
rotten in Cupertino.
I've written about imperial IT, many corps have the same problem with
Legal. Management does not understand the law
Here is an example of what Apple has to put up with...
Apple Boots Developer and his 900 apps.
http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2009/08/apple-dumps-app-developer-
and-his-900-apps-from-app-store.ars
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I thought yours sounded like Andy Rooney.
My GPS, so far, the most useful has been to get me lost!!
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From: b_s-wilk [mailto:b1sun...@yahoo.es]
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 1:33 PM
To: rleesimon
Subject: Re: Computer gadgets in cars
Is it Robert/Bob/Lee?
Once again Tom's reason wins out. Child porn is why apple won't allow Opera
to put a web browser on the iPhone.
On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 9:10 AM, TPiwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:
On Aug 9, 2009, at 8:15 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote:
The lawyers are either employees
or consultants. They do not
AOL does not offer archiving. Nor, AFAIK, online viewing of any type.
As I recall someone is doing this themselves with third party
software. That's nice, but forum software does it automatically.
Yes, I imagine a really dedicated person could just get a digest of
e.g. 200 messages a day and
On Aug 9, 2009, at 11:03 AM, Wayne Dernoncourt wrote:
Now it looks like places have switched WRT the phone markets. In
the desktop/laptop markets, MS had most of the headaches. In the
phone markets, it now looks like Apple has that role (the hack from
BlackHat with SMS messages taking over
Tom, the gun is not a computer gadget, and a bus is not a car. Also, was
that kid the only one who was safe on that bus? Third, were you safer on
that bus or walking down the street? Fourth, what kinda gun do you carry?
Last, does the computerized aiming mechanism with facial recognition and
To complicate the comparison further. This is a mailing list with an
archive. The archive looks very much like a forum. Messages are
threaded, searchable, and you can post replies.
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On Aug 9, 2009, at 12:34 PM, Tony B wrote:
AOL does not offer archiving. Nor, AFAIK, online viewing of any type.
As I recall someone is doing this themselves with third party
software. That's nice, but forum software does it automatically.
CGuys is archived automatically. We have two archives
On Aug 8, 2009, at 10:42 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:
We are a little bit easier to adapt so we will need to figure out
how to do that.
You are the Apple of God.
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How often do you hear about viruses on winmo?
It's not a theory that OS X is as susceptible to viruses and trojans as
windows, it's proven. It's only holdout MFBs that have a hard time with
truth.
On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 9:49 AM, TPiwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:
On Aug 9, 2009, at 11:03 AM, Wayne
About a week ago I was in a quicktrip getting gas and a drink before
work..it was probably 11.30 at night. In front of me was a guy who clearly
was a biker, had the whole outfit on including what looked like a nice 9mm
at his side. I felt decidedly safer with him there...who is going to rob
the
Sometimes I feel just like the pits.
Stewart
At 12:00 PM 8/9/2009, you wrote:
On Aug 8, 2009, at 10:42 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:
We are a little bit easier to adapt so we will need to figure out
how to do that.
You are the Apple of God.
If you check the Wild List you will see that there are 100s of
active, circulating viruses that can attack Windows and we have to
add anti-virus software to watch for them.
Tom likes this metric because it says what he wants it to say. It has no
real meaning, but oo, is it scary sounding.
My wife and I are finally trying to do our 2008 taxes
(long aggravating tale of woe). We also got married
last year and now we need help in getting Turbo Tax to
fill out the tax return (I have 401K contributions,
they don't show up on the tax return, etc.) We
imported her information since we
On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 12:10 PM, TPiwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:
On Aug 9, 2009, at 8:15 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote:
The lawyers are either employees
or consultants. They do not run Apple Corp. unless something is rotten in
Cupertino.
I've written about imperial IT, many corps have the
On Aug 9, 2009, at 2:35 AM, mike wrote:
No.
Knee jerk WFB reaction.
I bet a similar statement from Apple SVP Schiller won't make much of
an impression either...
Phil Schiller Responds Regarding Ninjawords and the App Store
http://daringfireball.net/2009/08/phil_schiller_app_store
On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 12:41 PM, TPiwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:
To complicate the comparison further. This is a mailing list with an
archive. The archive looks very much like a forum. Messages are threaded,
searchable, and you can post replies.
On top of that I archive the list for myself to
On Aug 9, 2009, at 2:08 PM, Wayne Dernoncourt wrote:
I'm thinking we should go to a tax person to deal with this.
Yes you should. I found that fighting the software distracted me from
other important tax issues, causing a mess. I filed and then had to
hire a human to refile a correct form.
On Aug 9, 2009, at 1:01 PM, mike wrote:
How often do you hear about viruses on winmo?
How often do I see anyone using WINCE?
You kind or reinforce my point.
I didn't expect you guys would go for a scientific test. You just
prattle on.
Your believing it's apple's lawyers doing all the evil and apple's directors
and ceo are just trying to do what is right is a knee jerk reaction of a
MFB.
Ridiculous to ban an app because it may display words to somone...um..out
there in the ether that might buy an iphone or ipod touch. For
Just forget about that bothersome second part I listed...much easier if you
just cover your eyes and ears and drone to yourself.
On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 11:33 AM, TPiwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:
On Aug 9, 2009, at 1:01 PM, mike wrote:
How often do you hear about viruses on winmo?
How often do
I'm sorry I misunderstood. So you have an older dial-up connection
that's charged by the minute? Yes, that was the heyday of mailing
lists. They were actually designed around that type of scenario. But
since most everyone has unmetered connections, or always-on broadband
these days, that
On Sun, August 9, 2009 12:34 pm, Tony B wrote:
AOL does not offer archiving. Nor, AFAIK, online viewing of any type.
As I recall someone is doing this themselves with third party
software. That's nice, but forum software does it automatically.
Yes, I imagine a really dedicated person could
At 11:54 PM 8/8/2009 -0400, you wrote:
Huh? This is so far out of left field I just have to ask what you can
possibly mean by it??? Why would anyone - admin, moderator, or
member, need to be online all the time? And how could anyone without
web access still use a mailing list?
You can join
One year I owed so much I was convinced the software must be in error.
But the only thing different the paid preparer found was a $100
deduction for the cost of preparing the form. I believe that was the
crash of 1999, when we had to pay taxes on a bunch of money we no
longer had, and had never
There is an iphone app that tells you where the speed traps are...populated
by users I believe. There is also a marker app that when you dump your car
in one of those IKEA like parking lots, you drop a marker from the ipod
app. When you come out of the IKEA maze fifteen hours later, GPS and the
At 08:20 AM 8/9/2009 -0500, you wrote:
No that is not it.
I do not want to be looking on the web all the time I have work to do.
When I am working, all I have to do is pop open my mail browser when
I have mail, delete what I do not want, and then go back to what I am doing.
I do not wan to
On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 3:00 PM, mikexha...@gmail.com wrote:
There is an iphone app that tells you where the speed traps are...populated
by users I believe. There is also a marker app that when you dump your car
in one of those IKEA like parking lots, you drop a marker from the ipod
app.
I think when you boil it down, lists and digest have overlapping uses
but in their strengths have advantages.
A listserve is especially good for developing community as everyone sees
everything unless they set up filters.
Modern forums usually have the option of email notification when you
On Aug 9, 2009, at 2:49 PM, mike wrote:
Your believing it's apple's lawyers doing all the evil and apple's
directors
and ceo are just trying to do what is right is a knee jerk reaction
of a
MFB.
I see you didn't read
Phil Schiller Responds Regarding Ninjawords and the App Store
Are we not splitting hairs here?
Can a bus not have a gun rack?
Did you ever get into a situation where you needed a 7mm Allen
wrench? It happens once in a blue moon. But you were glad to
have it, when you needed it.
Wow. What a wacky take on things. I think the distortions we're seeing
are due to the fact that you're asking the question on a mailing list,
which still has some members that have never done it any other way.
But 'web' forums are much older than mailing lists (they used to be
called 'bulletin
I've got a friend who was a mod on a mac forum and not long ago one of the
higher up mods deleted forum posts they didn't favor. Can't do that on an
email list.
On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 1:49 PM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote:
Often, messages/posts are worth saving. Saving emails is easy.
At 03:34 PM 8/9/2009 -0400, you wrote:
I theorize that the more people use such devices instead of their
brains, wits and common sense, the more reliant one becomes on those
devices and the less useful the brain becomes.
Also, would those old ladies, or men, even know how to use an iPhone?
BBS wasn't like the web forums. Putting a mailing list in a browser and
making it a forum is unnecessarily redundant, especially where
members mostly know each other, and email is sent to members anyway.
But a BBS or a mail list is by nature a closed forum, which has its
good points in that
I'm in the process of uploading my cd library into iTunes so I can download it
into my iPod. Before the upload begins I'm often getting the question as to
which version of the upload I want to use (for example). This sounds like I'm
uploading the cds from iTunes, not from my cds, and iTunes
To true. Everyone should know that gun racks go by the back window if
you live out west, like in Idaho. Down in the south east most trucks
probably don't have back windows anymore. The floor board is also
probably rusted out and the bed of the truck is filled with a cabin.
Jeff M
On Aug
Safer then if I was around you. I know he doesn't want to take away any of
my rights.
On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 1:57 PM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote:
About a week ago I was in a quicktrip getting gas and a drink before
work..it was probably 11.30 at night. In front of me was a guy who
On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 5:02 PM, Sue Cubicscu...@earthlink.net wrote:
Some of us do. :) But I firmly agree that it's easy to become reliant on
gadgets. I've become dependent on lists. If I don't have a to-do list
anymore, I think I have nothing to do--so I play! It's a very lazy way of
He will. And then he'll rob you. Biker dude still makes you feel safe?
Open carry is legal in VA.
Being a biker is not illegal.
I wouldn't call myself a biker, I ride a bike but I'd call myself a cyclist
as opposed to the motorized variety.
I probably don't look as threatening as a full out
And, a parking one:
3. Also, they could link the thing to one of those websites that does
the parking lot thing and tell you where to park and if they're full
or not before you get there and adjust your route accordingly so you
don't waste time goin'round the block.
Now THAT is a
On Aug 9, 2009, at 2:08 PM, Wayne Dernoncourt wrote:
I'm thinking we should go to a tax person to deal with this.
Yes you should. I found that fighting the software distracted me from
other important tax issues, causing a mess. I filed and then had to
hire a human to refile a correct form.
How many and where?
All depends but they usually just keep them in the cabinets.
Or under their seats.
Stewart
At 01:35 PM 8/9/2009, you wrote:
On Aug 9, 2009, at 12:49 PM, rleesimon wrote:
a bus is not a car
Are we not splitting hairs here?
Can a bus not have a gun rack?
They edit out unflattering information.
Go on, man I can't believe that.
If it is on the Interweb it must be true.
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You mean like the one my wife sent me.
Colon cleanse and Acai berry juice helped this lady loose 50lbs.?
The moon is made of green cheese, and Oh yeas Elvis is alive.
Stewart
At 05:58 PM 8/9/2009, you wrote:
They edit out unflattering information.
Go on, man I can't believe that.
If it
I'm in the process of uploading my cd library into iTunes so I can
download it into my iPod. Before the upload begins I'm often getting
the question as to which version of the upload I want to use (for
example). This sounds like I'm uploading the cds from iTunes, not
from my cds, and iTunes
b_s-wilk
On Aug 9, 2009, at 2:08 PM, Wayne Dernoncourt wrote:
I'm thinking we should go to a tax person to deal
with this.
Yes you should. I found that fighting the software
distracted me from other important tax issues, causing
a mess. I filed and then had to hire a human to refile
a
No, it's asking which version of the cd to use
--- On Sun, 8/9/09, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote:
From: b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es
Subject: Re: [CGUYS] how does iTunes work?
To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
Date: Sunday, August 9, 2009, 6:28 PM
I'm in the process of uploading my cd
No, it's asking which version of the cd to use
Is there a preference in the import settings to use error correction
when inserting a CD? If so, is it selected?
Mac or Windows version of iTunes?
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Since I got a DVR from Verizon Fios, I have recorded watched old
episodes of Maverick. Everyone (except some females) carry guns on
that program and use them profusely. Seems to work for them, so why not
for us today? Maybe every walk down a sidewalk -- better said, for
today, a drive in
Whether you use software or a specialist- everyone and everything has its
capabilities.
I am sure you recall that both Geithner and Daschle had tax problems and
each used a different tax program. Each program had its own failures.
Likewise, professionals have their own specialties.
Make sure you
I selected error correction in the import preferences, and Im on a mac
--- On Sun, 8/9/09, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote:
From: b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es
Subject: Re: [CGUYS] how does iTunes work?
To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
Date: Sunday, August 9, 2009, 8:33 PM
No, it's asking
On Aug 9, 2009, at 3:51 PM, db wrote:
Does anyone know if there are any lists which are also concurrently
set up as forums? ... seems like that might be possible.
Sigh. As I said earlier, this is the case with Google's and Yahoo's
offerings.
On Aug 9, 2009, at 5:26 PM, One Man wrote:
I'm in the process of uploading my cd library into iTunes so I can
download it into my iPod. Before the upload begins I'm often
getting the question as to which version of the upload I want to use
(for example). This sounds like I'm uploading the
Or you could get caught in the crossfire when Biker Dude and Armed
Robbery Dude shoot it out. (Getting caught in the crossfire doesn't
happen much in the movies, but--in fact--a lot of the shooting
victims in this area aren't even the gunman's intended target. They
just happen to get in
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