Ok, how about socialized health care if we call it the Republican
Healthcare Initiative?
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On Sep 8, 2009, at 10:15 PM, Jeff Wright wrote:
I find it funny that when "lib
Where are you getting this nonsense? What part of "option" won't flow
through your head? I'd recommend using a hammer, but then you'd have
to use your insurance. That is if you have insurance.
Option means optional. Wham, wham, wham. Bang your head against the
wall a few more times and it m
You obviously don't pay any attention. Flying 20 years ago was as
affordable as it is today. You only get less for your $ today. I
search flight prices on a weekly, if not daily schedule. Prices go up
and down depending on when you search. But they haven't changed much
in the last 20 years
Yes and no. Why are the both on the stock exchange as two separate
entities? But that's not what I really asked. What the hell came of
creating the database/intranet of health care? Who was against it?
What happened to the waste cutting? Where did it go? The company still
exists, so.?
And that's why you're against health care reform and/or the public
option, you have the blinders on?
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On Sep 8, 2009, at 9:41 PM, Jeff Wright wrote:
If you encounter someone wh
We ain't govmuent then whats be we? I don't work in a labor camp. I'm
not forced into an army. Hell I'm not even made to feed the chickens.
Damn, how did this govment I'm not a part of get so out of control?
By the way, next time you feel we aren't all the government, lets see
what happen
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 12:10 AM, t.piwowar wrote:
> On Sep 8, 2009, at 11:41 AM, b_s-wilk wrote:
>
>> It may seem counterintuitive, but the reason you have home owner's
>> insurance is to benefit the mortgage carriers, not you; your car insurance
>> is to keep others' insurance from going up too
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 12:28 AM, t.piwowar wrote:
> On Sep 6, 2009, at 11:16 PM, John Duncan Yoyo wrote:
>
>> Futura is more attractive than Verdana. The real problem here is that
>> IKEA
>> switched to a M$ font. M$ a company that is not renown for really good
>> design.
>>
>
> Actually Verdan
Once again I have to point out government programs aren't created and
meant to make a profit. Can you imagine the bitching if they actually
did? Where's the money going? Who's pockets are being lined? The
complaining never stops. It's one reason I stopped being a
professional photographer
> I find it funny that when "liberals" want change its called
socialism
> or pandering to people with hands out. While when neocons call for
> change it's fanatical renegade John Wynism (I just made that up).
Nah, it's pretty much socialism when the Stupid Party does it too.
> I don'
> Whjy are you afraid of a choice between the private insurers and a government
> program? I said: choice.
Private insurers can't print money or tax their customers when times get tight.
You can't "compete" with the govt. "Choice" with the state is a bug, not a
feature.
If the issue are person
What was that movie? Gattica? It focused on the DNA thing mostly, but
the people's complacency was also shown. Just do what you're told.
I find it funny that when "liberals" want change its called socialism
or pandering to people with hands out. While when neocons call for
change it's fana
> Hmmm, coach healthcare and then first class healthcare if I'm
willing
> to pay for it. What a concept.
Sounds like you're describing the UK's DHS or Canada's Medicare to a T.
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> There's no free market. Never has been. Get over it. Deal with the
> economy as it exists, not in some utopian, fear-inspired fantasy. Good
> health, quality education, a stable economy with manufacturing, and a
> clean environment are as important to our security as diplomacy and our
> military.
I agree with the idea that if you love it so much why don't you move
there is a BS argument. How about, if it works, lets bring it here? We
import just about everything else, why not healthcare ideas? Oh, no
money in it. Can we export our insurance companies to China with the
proviso they
> This is a terrible comparison. But if you must, the airline travel
> industry has also gone to hell. I don't know how much you fly, but
> it's miserable today as compared to 20 years ago
I fly a couple of times a year. It's OK.
What I do know is that it's no longer only a tool for the bu
We have the same problem from time to time, but get much better service
here in the boonies. It's usually not in our house. They can test the
lines from the main office. I can test the lines at point of entry. Did
they do a line test? I know there's a minor short somewhere in the house
and will
I'm amazed that those against health care options don't see the
insurance companies as death panels. Because Sarah says it they're
quick to jump on the idea when it comes to a federal health option,
but seeing their own insurance companies as doing the same? Hand over
the head motion here.
> She said "we", she didn't say you. We aren't including you. So don't
> bother voting next election. It won't be counted. You're not included.
> Oh, we'll still be taking SS out of your paycheck. Probably L&I as
> well, but you aren't part of our government. Wow, how freeing that
> must feel
On Sep 9, 2009, at 12:14 AM, Jeff Miles wrote:
Ok, this is on both topics, health care and computers. Jim Clark
started Healtheon. MS bought it. It was supposed to be a system of
putting healthcare history of patients online to cut out waste.
Whatever happened with that?
Healtheon merged w
> If you encounter someone who is hungry and you don't feed them you are
> not being nice.
> If you encounter someone who is homeless and you don't shelter them
> you are not being nice.
> If you encounter someone who is bleeding to death and you don't help
> them you are a criminal.
>
> Tell us a
> You mean like when we got rid of the laws that required local banking?
> That worked very well. Didn't it?
>
> If you look for banks that did not get caught in the sub-prime fiasco
> you will find that these were banks run by local bankers who knew who
> and what was getting the loan. You will a
On Sep 6, 2009, at 2:39 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:
I have heard of some registration agents taking ownership of the
site when they register and then you are held hostage in the process.
I continue to be listed as the owner. They are listed as the technical
contact, as they should.
W
> Did you see the Time cover story about cheap food? This is another
> issue that Americans will have to face up to. Corporate farmers are
> polluting our world and serving up food from diseased animals. Our
> food is so strongly laced with antibiotics that they are breeding new
> strains of drug-r
On Sep 6, 2009, at 11:16 PM, John Duncan Yoyo wrote:
Futura is more attractive than Verdana. The real problem here is
that IKEA
switched to a M$ font. M$ a company that is not renown for really
good
design.
Actually Verdana is one of two fonts that M$ had designed by Mathew
Carter, who
> As one with family from Cuba and some friends remaining, I can assure
> you that Jeff W. has no idea about Cuba, considering his comments. It's
> their health care insurance system and outcomes that are better than
> ours, not the high tech gadgets and expensive doctors. The Cuban
> government, t
I did find it interesting someone would equate violence with either
being liberal or conservative. I personally know some pretty passive
conservatives and also some pretty violent liberals. I don't think how
you feel about Sarah Palin and her views makes you one or the other. I
won't go an
> > Sounds like paradise. Why aren't you living there?
>
> I was just waiting for the old "love it or leave it" bullshit to
> start. Why can't an intelligent and respectful conversation take
> place without descending into the pit of old worn out saws such as
> that?
Really? You saw love or
Ok, this is on both topics, health care and computers. Jim Clark
started Healtheon. MS bought it. It was supposed to be a system of
putting healthcare history of patients online to cut out waste.
Whatever happened with that?
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On Sep 8, 2009, at 10:01 PM, Eric S. Sande wrote:
For the record, I will be pursuing this. Not to get special
treatment,
which I don't expect, but hopefully to raise awareness of how badly
I was treated, which I frankly didn't expect.
Take care that they don't run you over with their truck.
On Sep 8, 2009, at 11:41 AM, b_s-wilk wrote:
It may seem counterintuitive, but the reason you have home owner's
insurance is to benefit the mortgage carriers, not you; your car
insurance is to keep others' insurance from going up too high and
for the public agencies that cover the ininsured
On Sep 7, 2009, at 5:47 PM, Steve at Verizon wrote:
And the ones who will choose choice will be the employers, dumping
their health care, and then you, the employee, will have only one
choice, the public option. That is what is happening in
Massachusetts; the employers would rather pay the
On Sep 7, 2009, at 3:07 PM, Jordan wrote:
http://brightcove.newscientist.com/services/player/bcpid2227271001?bctid=30583310001
Thank you. Very well thought out and rational.
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On Sep 7, 2009, at 8:38 AM, Fred Holmes wrote:
But liberals proclaim that you should never defend yourself against
an attacker. You should run away and call the police. Why did this
individual not follow the liberal doctrine?
When _you_ are being attacked, you all of a sudden become a
cons
On Sep 6, 2009, at 5:06 PM, Jeff Wright wrote:
That food, which uses a mixed but largely free market system, is so
cheap
and plentiful that even the poor can easily afford it, is lost on the
socialized medicine proponents.
Did you see the Time cover story about cheap food? This is another
i
On Sep 6, 2009, at 4:34 PM, mike wrote:
The UK and Canada are moving away from socialized medicine, not
towards it.
While this is definitely off topic, it is still very useful in the
general context of the List's discussions about computers and
technology. It gets us away from tainted topi
On Sep 6, 2009, at 4:33 PM, mike wrote:
You don't seem to have a full grasp on capitalism. If your letters
didn't
arrive you'd switch carriers and get them to arrive. It's called
Fedex and
UPS and DHL etc. Would one pizza shop across the nation be good?
There was a time when you had to s
On Sep 6, 2009, at 3:22 PM, Jeff Wright wrote:
We are being told that health care is a "right." I disagree.
Health care
is paramount, no doubt, but it is no more a right than food or a
place to
live.
If you encounter someone who is hungry and you don't feed them you are
not being nice.
At 10:01 PM -0400 9/8/09, Eric S. Sande wrote:
OK good. An hour is now down the tubes. Two hours later a rep,
American, calls me. "We will send a technician to your location to
troubleshoot this, our earliest appointment will be next Tuesday, and
someone will have to be home all day."
That's
Lost DSL sync on Monday. Reset, regained sync for a few minutes,
then it dropped again. Had the same problem two months ago.
It was fixed rapidly last time. This time, I called India. It took, no
kidding, I timed it, 45 minutes to run through the call center script.
All of which was useless,
Jeff you got me interested. Don´t be impressed by statistics and be careful
with the information you get from the Internet. Talk with your doctor.
Cardiology is a branch of medicine that is growing a lot and you will never
know what is coming next. My advice: if you are feeling good live life to
Where do you come up with these figures? Have they been fed to you or are
they just off the top of your head?
You did get to the meat of the problem however. We might have great medical
care here in us. But getting it and being able to have access to it is a
totally different story. And
I use Gmail for one of my boxes, but can someone tell me why I constantly
have to tell my Mac to accept the email when I restart the computer and or the
mail program? It keeps telling me permissions aren't something or other. I
can't remember exactly and don't feel like restarting at the mo
Not only do you have to pay but their scales in many cases are not
regulated. (Paid a $50 penalty on a flight recently for an
overweight bag. One between the two of us. )
Read a story about an airport where they went through and calibrated
the scales. Many were off by a few pounds.
Stewar
On Sep 7, 2009, at 12:54 AM, Jeff Wright wrote:
Rev, now you miss his point. If you allow companies to compete over
state
lines, removing their captive audience, you won't *need* mandates.
That's
what competition is best at providing: choice.
You mean like when we got rid of the laws that
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
I use Fedora but Grub is Grub.
The url above should get you pointed in the right direction.
It "sounds" like the grub entries are pointing to the wrong drive or partition
and grub is unable to find files
which is causing the boot up problems. There ar
Move down here and we can remedy that situation for you.
Not all states are as generous and $200 a month for groceries are a minmum.
Stewart
At 06:59 AM 9/8/2009, you wrote:
? where you been Marcio? I Thought that what I've been doing all
along. Though many of those views are well received.
? where you been Marcio? I Thought that what I've been doing all
along. Though many of those views are well received.
I need to explain a few things here. I suffer from congestive heart
failure. From what I could find my survival rate was 13% after being
diagnosed for the first 5 years. I'
On Tue, 2009-09-08 at 07:05 -0400, Roger D. Parish wrote:
> I think there is something wrong with the Grub that gets installed
> with Ubuntu 9.04. I was installing on a single partitioned hard drive
> along with XP. There was a second internal hard drive in the machine.
> Grub didn't work for me
I think there is something wrong with the Grub that gets installed
with Ubuntu 9.04. I was installing on a single partitioned hard drive
along with XP. There was a second internal hard drive in the machine.
Grub didn't work for me, although it had always worked before on all
previous releases,
On Tue, 2009-09-08 at 00:09 -0400, Vicky Staubly wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Sep 2009, Rob wrote:
> > On Mon, 2009-09-07 at 19:22 -0400, John DeCarlo wrote:
> >> On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Rob wrote:
> >>> When I choose to boot Ubuntu, the Ubuntu Splash Screen appears and I get
> >>> the following:
>
Where do you come up with these figures? Have they been fed to you or
are they just off the top of your head?
You did get to the meat of the problem however. We might have great
medical care here in us. But getting it and being able to have access
to it is a totally different story. And tha
I use Gmail for one of my boxes, but can someone tell me why I
constantly have to tell my Mac to accept the email when I restart the
computer and or the mail program? It keeps telling me permissions
aren't something or other. I can't remember exactly and don't feel
like restarting at the m
Just a thought, but if we stopped calling it "the US" and just called
it "us" maybe people would remember. Then maybe healthcare for "us"
might sound more attractive.
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Good. Why are there some, with no interest, so interested in
protecting these crooks? If you don't work for, own interest in or own
the company out right, what do you care if a crooked insurance company
goes out of business?
I'm playing Mafia Wars, but it's just a game. These insurance
co
This is the standard response when someone doesn't have a decent
argument. "If you like it so much, why don't you move there?" This is
a crap argument.
If the French found out how to create nuclear fusion, should we all
move there, or should we import the idea?
Jeff Miles
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The title says what? 89 people were polled and those who were
interested in whoever was doing the polling were against healthcare?
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On Sep 7, 2009, at 1:38 PM, mike wrote:
Due
This is a terrible comparison. But if you must, the airline travel
industry has also gone to hell. I don't know how much you fly, but
it's miserable today as compared to 20 years ago. A couple of weeks
ago Alaska airlines started charging for even my first checked bag.
And they don't bothe
She said "we", she didn't say you. We aren't including you. So don't
bother voting next election. It won't be counted. You're not included.
Oh, we'll still be taking SS out of your paycheck. Probably L&I as
well, but you aren't part of our government. Wow, how freeing that
must feel. A man
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