Re: [CGUYS] Apple fixes your wagon...and yours

2009-11-03 Thread Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)
Apple is preventing them from taking advantage of Apple's investments in iTunes and in Mac OS X by not making these investments work with non-Apple products; phones and other products competing with Apple. The reason Apple spends money to develop and market them is to provide advantages to Apple

Re: [CGUYS] Apple fixes your wagon...and yours

2009-11-03 Thread mike
You missed what I said. I never stated I wanted Apple to invest money making their product work on atom CPUs. They already do, so Apple is going back to write code to break it. With the massive profits, why not go a little down the pr road and just let those extremely few do it and try to

Re: [CGUYS] Apple fixes your wagon...and yours

2009-11-03 Thread Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)
Probably because you didn't write clearly. You just now brought up this control freak perception issue; where did you get that from? Apple is planning a large jump in its research. Some of that will go for OS X. Why would they make it easy for others to sell OS X the way Psyster is (during the

Re: [CGUYS] Apple fixes your wagon...and yours

2009-11-03 Thread Fred Holmes
With the logic you present below, MS should try to write code so that Windows won't run in any fashion on a Mac? Someone's business model is flawed? Fred Holmes At 05:38 AM 11/3/2009, Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) wrote: Apple is preventing them from taking advantage of Apple's investments in iTunes

Re: [CGUYS] Speaking of flash drives

2009-11-03 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 7:14 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Nov 2, 2009, at 6:47 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: There are definitely more evil things in this world to be wary of besides Walmart. Can you give us some examples? Absolutely, according to Virginia Foxx, Republican

Re: [CGUYS] Apple fixes your wagon...and yours

2009-11-03 Thread Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)
M$ took a different business tack in the early 1980's. Bill's motto was Knife the baby when an innovative software vendor would not agree to be acquired. Bill started M$ writing an OS for the IBM PC, remember? They never cared much who made the hardware. You are a little late to start

Re: [CGUYS] online storage --HIJACKED!!

2009-11-03 Thread b_s-wilk
Tony B ton...@gmail.com escribió: Why don't you guys start your own thread to whine about cell phones? I started this thread to discuss online storage - the cloud. Serious topic hijacking. Tony, You hijacked this thread. Tony sez: ...But have you seen modern cell coverage maps of the

Re: [CGUYS] Speaking of flash drives

2009-11-03 Thread Jordan
But shopping at Wal-Mart is a choice. If you are aware of the history and are a socially responsible and moral being, not shopping at Wal-Mart is a choice you can easily make. It's easier to avoid the evil we can see. Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: There are definitely more evil things in this

Re: [CGUYS] Apple fixes your wagon...and yours

2009-11-03 Thread mike
I'm not sure where to even start if you have never head of Apple's legendary control issues. It's been talked about here, on the web, books, television...magazines You also keep bringing up Psystar which has nothing to do with what I'm talking about. Yes, Apple's plan has always been to mate

[CGUYS] big e little E was: Re: [CGUYS] Speaking of flash drives

2009-11-03 Thread mike
Apparently evil exists in more places for some of the users here. I suppose walmart can be the little 'e' evil and we'll save Evil for real good stuff like Mao and Pot and Stalin. On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 8:30 AM, Jordan jor17...@gmail.com wrote: But shopping at Wal-Mart is a choice. If you are

Re: [CGUYS] Speaking of flash drives

2009-11-03 Thread Constance Warner
Well, Walmart management did lock people in their stores and force them to work without pay. (I'm not making this up, unfortunately; it's well substantiated in court cases.) This is far short of killing fields, but it isn't cool. And just because something doesn't kill you outright

Re: [CGUYS] Speaking of flash drives

2009-11-03 Thread mike
I think the Rev's point was that while Walmart practices are bad and uncool, they don't rise to the level of evil. The word itself is overused to describe everyrthing not liked. Boy, Pol Pot was evil. Boy, Walmart is evil. We have a couple generations of young adults and kids who will say,

Re: [CGUYS] Speaking of flash drives

2009-11-03 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
For every horror story of Walmart I can tell you good stories. A lot has to do with local management. Are they a white knight? no. Are they the Black Prince no. They are a corporation like many corporations. Has what Apple done by recoding some of their software to lock out competitors

Re: [CGUYS] Speaking of flash drives

2009-11-03 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
We use words in the English language haphazardly. Many foreign languages are very specific in their use of words. Is Walmart's practices always Ethical? NO! I would venture to say that most business practices in this day and age are not ethical. Are they Evil? I don't rate them up there.

Re: [CGUYS] online storage --HIJACKED!!

2009-11-03 Thread Tony B
I was only making a side point, not inviting a bash-fest of cell phone companies. But thanks for bringing us back on topic. In fact, I just got our bill for our company backups - it was $1.78 last month on Amazon S3 (you only pay for what you use). Mozy and others offer free limited storage,

Re: [CGUYS] Speaking of flash drives

2009-11-03 Thread tjpa
On Nov 3, 2009, at 10:25 AM, Constance Warner wrote: And just because something doesn't kill you outright doesn't mean that it is essentially harmless. Walmart is justly famous for killing off small town business districts and wiping out local small- business entrepreneurs. And their

Re: [CGUYS] Speaking of flash drives

2009-11-03 Thread tjpa
On Nov 3, 2009, at 10:30 AM, Jordan wrote: But shopping at Wal-Mart is a choice. If you are aware of the history and are a socially responsible and moral being, not shopping at Wal-Mart is a choice you can easily make. And a lot of pressure on Walmart has caused it to mend some of its

Re: [CGUYS] online storage --HIJACKED!!

2009-11-03 Thread mike
BTW, lemme know when you stop using Apple products since they support Carbonite. On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 10:10 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Nov 3, 2009, at 11:43 AM, Tony B wrote: The ridiculously popular Carbonite (Peace of Mind backup) is only $4.60/mo unlimited; clearly a ton of people

Re: [CGUYS] Real Windows 7 Reviews Start to Appear

2009-11-03 Thread tjpa
On Nov 3, 2009, at 5:17 AM, Wayne Dernoncourt wrote: Most everyone agrees that Win7 is what MS _should_ have shipped as Vista. Even Tom. But is that a fair comparison. W7 is also better than getting electrocuted. Whoopee!

Re: [CGUYS] Speaking of flash drives

2009-11-03 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 12:20 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: I never gave a set of standards, Tom, but then you know that.  And I'm not surprised a leftist like you would consider Pot free of evil, the track record for progressives embracing guys like this are abundant. Let us not leave

Re: [CGUYS] It's monotheist versus pagan (It's a Windows Mobile killer)

2009-11-03 Thread tjpa
On Nov 2, 2009, at 10:00 PM, b_s-wilk wrote: Android is software, not hardware. It can work in phones on GSM and CDMA networks, plus WiFi, Bluetooth, UMTS, etc. Nokia is in the process of merging some of its Symbian smart phones with Android features. Most of their customers are on GSM

Re: [CGUYS] online storage --HIJACKED!!

2009-11-03 Thread Tony B
Our backups in the cloud are certainly under OUR control. Well, mine anyway. I tell it what to backup online, and if I need to access it, I do. Yes, I suppose Google et al, could announce tomorrow that they'll be charging for gmail. But why live life based around what some company *might* do in

Re: [CGUYS] Real Windows 7 Reviews Start to Appear

2009-11-03 Thread tjpa
On Nov 3, 2009, at 5:17 AM, Wayne Dernoncourt wrote: Most of the people that have tried it seemed to think it was pretty good for the OS itself. The biggest exception was John Dvorak who said that it ran slower on his notebook (?netbook?). The review I cited was from a guy who I know is heavy

Re: [CGUYS] Speaking of flash drives

2009-11-03 Thread tjpa
On Nov 3, 2009, at 11:28 AM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: I shop a lot of local retailers But some of them I simply cannot afford. The local Men's shop is one. I cannot afford his inflated prices ($80 dress pants) and shop elsewhere. Walmart dress pants $20. Material disintegrates in 2

Re: [CGUYS] Apple fixes your wagon...and yours

2009-11-03 Thread mike
Not surprised, completely missed the mark again. Try again, Tom. I suspect you know what I'm talking about, I'm thinking you aren't that stupid, just blowing more of your smoke screen so you don't have to actually say anything of substance. On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 11:05 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com

Re: [CGUYS] Speaking of flash drives

2009-11-03 Thread mike
Hang on I gotta throw up a little after this propaganda piece. On Nov 3, 2009 11:41 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Nov 3, 2009, at 12:15 PM, Stewart Marshall wrote: Too bad it does not work in Washington. It did and the difference is so obvious to those of us who live here. The feeling of

Re: [CGUYS] online storage --HIJACKED!!

2009-11-03 Thread b_s-wilk
Online backups: $1.78-$4.60 per month for backup service, PLUS the faster broadband service for home/office, PLUS the mobile data plan, PLUS the cellular modem plan for a notebook. These can easily add up to well over $100/mo., could be upwards of $150-$200/mo. EXPENSIVE, unless you stay

Re: [CGUYS] Real Windows 7 Reviews Start to Appear

2009-11-03 Thread Tony B
If I ever get a netbook with XP on it, and have the urge to try to put Win7 on it, I'll be sure to install it to a new drive so I can run a few benchmarks myself. Or not. Anyway, there are more realistic tests out there involving desktops, most of which show Win7 to be much faster. e.g. here's a

[CGUYS] Quality control?

2009-11-03 Thread Sue Cubic
At 01:14 PM 11/3/2009 -0500, you wrote: Walmart dress pants $20. Material disintegrates in 2 years so pants are no longer useable. Men's shop dress pants $80. After 10 years of heavy use still look good. It is just like the Mac vs. PC comparison. Let us not get into what brands of clothes

Re: [CGUYS] Maybe Now the Feds Will Pay Attention to Cybercrime?

2009-11-03 Thread Tony B
Really badly written article, linking to at least one other of the same type. It wants us to believe Al Qaeda is hiding around every corner in cyberspace waiting to steal from us. But the only real example it gives is of a guy that raised money legally - by taking out loans and credit cards. I

Re: [CGUYS] Real Windows 7 Reviews Start to Appear

2009-11-03 Thread mike
Stuff? Like what? On Nov 3, 2009 1:56 PM, David K Watson davidkirkwat...@gmail.com wrote: According to what I've read, part of the impression that Win7 is faster than XP and Vista is a hangover from the fact that many of the Win7 betas really were faster because they were more streamlined.

Re: [CGUYS] online storage --HIJACKED!!

2009-11-03 Thread Tony B
Why are you adding all that unrelated stuff together? Just to make a point with people that can't add??? If you're tired of hearing about cloud computing then you're on the wrong list. On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 9:57 PM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: Online backups: $1.78-$4.60 per month for

[CGUYS] SMS on iPod Touch

2009-11-03 Thread b_s-wilk
What app can do SMS? I can send texts via email, but how can I receive texts on my iPod? Nobody uses email any more, according to the kiddies [except this email]. Betty * ** List info, subscription management, list rules,

Re: [CGUYS] SMS on iPod Touch

2009-11-03 Thread mike
mydigitallife.info/2008/07/16/send-free-sms-text-messages-from-iphone-and-ipod-touch-via-aim-and-ichat/ That might be a good start for you. On Nov 3, 2009 9:26 PM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: What app can do SMS? I can send texts via email, but how can I receive texts on my iPod? Nobody