[CGUYS] Iphone

2009-11-05 Thread Stewart Marshall
Someone is not happy with the Iphone. http://finance.yahoo.com/family-home/article/108096/brit-Blog-names-iPhone-worlds-worst.html?mod=family-love_money Stewart * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archive

[CGUYS] iPhone competition

2008-08-22 Thread Chris Dunford
The Nokia E71 is getting rave reviews, even when compared directly to iPhone: http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2008/08/22.html http://www.pcpro.co.uk/reviews/207654 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/05/25/nokia-e71-review/ http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/reviews/item/Nokia_E71.php **

[CGUYS] Iphone competition

2008-09-20 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
I just got notice today from my cell phone provider that RIM is coming out with a new phone shortly on the Verizon network. It is called the Blackberry Storm (I think) and it is a touch phone style phone. It does have buttons on the bottom but not much more is known. OH and it does the 3G ne

[CGUYS] iPhone cracked

2007-07-24 Thread Chris Dunford
"A security firm has run the first remote exploits on Apple's iPhone, proving that the widely popular smart phone is vulnerable not only to data theft but also to being turned into a remote snooping device." http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,2161696,00.asp?kc=EWKNLNAV072407FEA1

[CGUYS] iphone apps

2011-03-07 Thread D Freye
My friend wants to develope iphone apps on his $3000 desktop quadcore win7 machine. It runs VM at all times. Can you suggest anything in terms of soft or hard wares to get him started. Be at Peace. *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE

[CGUYS] iphone photo app

2009-09-25 Thread mike
Does anyone know of an app, preferably free, that will allow you to view jpegs full size on the iphone/ipod touch? Apple's resizing doesn't play well with some photos I wish to see in detail. * ** List info, subscription ma

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone multitasking

2009-11-08 Thread MrMike6by9
Just a brief comment. If I switch to another app on the iPhone from a Apple native app such as Safari, Safari will bring up the last page viewed when I return to it. The iPod player works the same way. Non-native apps "start from the beginning". I can listen to a radio station with Ootunes on the p

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone multitasking

2009-11-08 Thread mike
YMMV for sure. I don't want apps to stop when I move to another, that's the point. It's not multitasking, it's resuming. On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 12:43 PM, MrMike6by9 wrote: > Just a brief comment. If I switch to another app on the iPhone from a > Apple native app such as Safari, Safari will bri

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone multitasking

2009-11-08 Thread tjpa
On Nov 8, 2009, at 2:43 PM, MrMike6by9 wrote: Just a brief comment. If I switch to another app on the iPhone from a Apple native app such as Safari, Safari will bring up the last page viewed when I return to it. The iPod player works the same way. Non-native apps "start from the beginning". I can

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone competition

2008-08-22 Thread mike
I read three of the reviews. I'm not sure how this phone can be compared directly to the iPhone. That's not knocking either phone, it's just that they seem to be pointed at different markets. The E71 is marketed towards blackberry users IMO, though like the iPhone the E71 doesn't have push. The

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone competition

2008-08-22 Thread Chris Dunford
> I really don't see any comparison to the iPhone at all. I guess they are saying that it can do the same stuff, more or less, so if you want iPhone capabilities but (for whatever reason) don't want to an iPhone, this is a good alternative? I don't know, since I don't use either of them. Just th

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone competition

2008-08-23 Thread Tom Piwowar
> I really don't see any comparison to the iPhone at all. "Connection" more than "comparison." The iPhone has really put the other phone makers under pressure to compete. The reviews are currently cutting these manufacturers a lot of slack. They compare the new models more to their previous mod

Re: [CGUYS] Iphone competition

2008-09-21 Thread Stephen Brownfield
When they introduced the iPhone, I thought it would be the Mac of the cell phones. I thought that it would have a small percentage of the market, but would set the standard and push innovation. This appears to be happening (market share is a little larger than I expected). I also thought

Re: [CGUYS] Iphone competition

2008-09-21 Thread Tom Piwowar
>When they introduced the iPhone, I thought it would be the Mac of the >cell phones. I thought that it would have a small percentage of the >market, but would set the standard and push innovation. This appears to >be happening (market share is a little larger than I expected). >I also tho

Re: [CGUYS] Iphone competition

2008-09-21 Thread Tom Piwowar
>Of all the Iphone competitors out there this might be a worthy adversary. With Apple now on the third iteration of the iPhone you would think that somebody who was already in the cell phone business would have been able to develop a competitor. I just can't believe it is taking them so long.

Re: [CGUYS] Iphone competition

2008-09-21 Thread db
The open-source Android based phones will starting popping up any time now. Google's in October for $199 from T-Mobile I think. db Tom Piwowar wrote: Of all the Iphone competitors out there this might be a worthy adversary. With Apple now on the third iteration of the iPhone you would

[CGUYS] iPhone, uPhone, WeAllPhone

2007-07-09 Thread Michael Fernando
Okay, this is humor, but there's a certain sad truth behind it. Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 19:30:01 PDT From: Brad Templeton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: rec.humor.funny Followup-To: rec.humor.d Subject: Jobs warns knockoff iPhones lack several key features For the original version, or to add com

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone cracked

2007-07-24 Thread mike
Apple knows, and the exploit wasn't released to the wild. I see a fix coming soon in it's future. Mike On 7/24/07, Chris Dunford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "A security firm has run the first remote exploits on Apple's iPhone, proving that the widely popular smart phone is vulnerable not only

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone cracked

2007-07-24 Thread Roger D. Parish
At 11:36 AM -0400 7/24/07, Chris Dunford wrote: "A security firm has run the first remote exploits on Apple's iPhone, proving Proving? Not until it has been demonstrated. All they have done is claim. There are enough Apple-haters out there that I reserve judgement on any such claims until de

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone cracked

2007-07-24 Thread mike
Actually they did prove it. http://www.securityevaluators.com/iphone/ at the end of the video they show the dump they get from the iphone among other things. Mike On 7/24/07, Roger D. Parish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: At 11:36 AM -0400 7/24/07, Chris Dunford wrote: >"A security firm has run

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone cracked

2007-07-24 Thread Tom Piwowar
>"A security firm has run the first remote exploits on Apple's iPhone, >proving that the widely popular smart phone is vulnerable not only to >data theft but also to being turned into a remote snooping device." The vulnerability is a new variant of a known issue with the Safari browser. So, str

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone cracked

2007-07-24 Thread mike
Most windows breaches are due to third party software or the browser...so strictly speaking it isn't the pc being compromised. Mike On 7/24/07, Tom Piwowar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >"A security firm has run the first remote exploits on Apple's iPhone, >proving that the widely popular smart p

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone cracked

2007-07-24 Thread mike
Can't resist the headline of this reg article. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/07/24/iphone_security_vulnerability/ Mike On 7/24/07, mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Most windows breaches are due to third party software or the browser...so strictly speaking it isn't the pc being compromised.

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone cracked

2007-07-24 Thread Tom Piwowar
>Most windows breaches are due to third party software or the browser...so >strictly speaking it isn't the pc being compromised. The day after Monday is Tuesday. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following comman

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone cracked

2007-07-24 Thread John DeCarlo
On 7/24/07, mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Most windows breaches are due to third party software or the browser...so strictly speaking it isn't the pc being compromised. Not sure what you are trying to say. If you want to say that an Oracle vulnerability isn't a Windows vulnerability, you a

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone cracked

2007-07-24 Thread mike
Well that's ok, because with this vulnerability hackers can see how they are. Mike On 7/24/07, John DeCarlo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I don't believe that Safari and the iPhone are inextricably linked. -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own *

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone cracked

2007-07-26 Thread mike
Another member of the team noted that if they stopped using everything that had an exploit they'd not be able to use any computers of any kind. Not quite the cold dead remark, but true. Mike On 7/26/07, Tom Piwowar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Proving? Not until it has been demonstrated. All

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone cracked

2007-07-26 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
There were discrepancies between numbers ATT posted of Iphone sales and numbers Apple posted of I phone sales. When it all boiled down it seems Apple may have included # shipped by end of quarter and ATT counted actual number sold by end of quarter and the difference was in inventory still in

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone cracked

2007-07-26 Thread Fred Holmes
At 12:02 PM 7/26/2007, Tom Piwowar wrote: >Interesting to note that Apple shares dropped 7% on Tuesday on a bogus >news story that iPhone sales were not up to expectations. On Wed shares >were up 10% on news that the story was bogus and news that Apple profits >were up 78%. > >So you are right,

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone cracked

2007-07-26 Thread Tom Piwowar
> Proving? Not until it has been demonstrated. All they have done is > claim. There are enough Apple-haters out there that I reserve > judgement on any such claims until demonstrated. The whole Brian > Krebs/David Maynor/WiFi fiasco did that to me. Actually the person discovering this vulnerabilit

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone cracked

2007-07-28 Thread b_s-wilk
The discrepancy may be for people who bought the iPhone and use it with PAYGO. That wouldn't register as a regular ATT account, since you don't have to give personal information to sign up. The phone "can't" be opened to switch SIM cards, but it wouldn't surprise me if it's been done successfu

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone cracked

2007-07-28 Thread mike
Yes, all AT$T phones do. Mike On 7/28/07, b_s-wilk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Does it have a SIM? > > Betty > > > * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & se

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone cracked

2007-07-29 Thread Mason Miller
The iPhone has a sim slot right on the top. You push a tiny button and it pops out. Mason b_s-wilk wrote: The discrepancy may be for people who bought the iPhone and use it with PAYGO. That wouldn't register as a regular ATT account, since you don't have to give personal information to sign u

Re: [CGUYS] iphone apps

2011-03-08 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
I think you have to be in OSX environment for IOS development. I would love to be wrong. This clown speaks for himself On Mar 8, 2011, at 2:01 AM, D Freye wrote: > My friend wants to develope iphone apps on his $3000 desktop quadcore > win7 machine. It runs VM at all times. Can you suggest an

Re: [CGUYS] iphone apps

2011-03-08 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 6:48 AM, Wayne Dernoncourt wrote: > I think you have to be in OSX environment for IOS development.  I would love > to be wrong. > > This clown speaks for himself Yep, iOS apps need to be developed with Apple software which requires Apple hardware unless you go the Hackinto

[CGUYS] iPhone 3GS encryption "useless"

2009-07-24 Thread Chris Dunford
"[T]he ... encryption included with the iPhone 3GS is so weak it can be cracked in two minutes with a few pieces of readily available freeware. "It is kind of like storing all your secret messages right next to the secret decoder ring," said Jonathan Zdziarski, an iPhone developer and a hacker

[CGUYS] iPhone roaming on WiFi

2008-06-10 Thread b_s-wilk
Does the iPhone use WiFi for roaming when there's an open network but no AT&T network? Some WiFi phones switch automatically. How about the iPhone? Betty * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, priv

[CGUYS] iPhone: "Perfect spying device"

2007-10-03 Thread Chris Dunford
A few choice quotes: "All iPhone applications run with full root privileges and any application vulnerability means winner takes all." "The iPhone has been turned into a "pocket-sized ... network-enabled root shell." "Moore revealed multiple security chasms on Apple's device: The first and m

[CGUYS] iPhone overtakes Windows Mobile

2009-12-17 Thread tjp
http://www.electronista.com/articles/09/12/16/active.iphone.users.outnumber.win.mobile/ "The number of active iPhone users in the US has passed that of Windows Mobile for the first time, new data from comScore shows. After just pulling even with Microsoft in July, Apple's smartphone platform

[CGUYS] iPhone ads over time

2010-04-15 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
I just watched all the iPhone television commercials that are posted on the Apple website. The early ads, the first five or six, focused on features of the iPhone and how one can use it. Those ads that followed, up to and including the latest ones, mostly focus exclusively on how to use the iPh

[CGUYS] iPhone 4, Engineering thoughts

2010-06-28 Thread John DeCarlo
>From Steve Gibson (and his recommendation of a reply to read): The iPhone 4 Antenna Controversy: Given all the evidence, here's my theory in my most recent blog post: http://wp.me/pV3mA-22 -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own *

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone 3GS encryption "useless"

2009-07-24 Thread Jeff Wright
> "[T]he ... encryption included with the iPhone 3GS is so weak it can be > cracked in two minutes with a few pieces of readily available freeware. > > "It is kind of like storing all your secret messages right next to the secret > decoder ring," said Jonathan Zdziarski, an iPhone developer > and

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone 3GS encryption "useless"

2009-07-24 Thread t.piwowar
On Jul 24, 2009, at 9:04 AM, Chris Dunford wrote: "[T]he ... encryption included with the iPhone 3GS is so weak it can be cracked in two minutes with a few pieces of readily available freeware. The trick is to install an alternative kernel (operating system) on the device and then copy the

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone 3GS encryption "useless"

2009-07-24 Thread t.piwowar
Also check out Zdziarski's website for a lengthy attack on health care reform... http://www.zdziarski.com/ * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone 3GS encryption "useless"

2009-07-25 Thread Jeff Wright
> Also check out Zdziarski's website for a lengthy attack on health > care reform... > http://www.zdziarski.com/ I'm sure in your twisted world-view, this is supposed to be an indictment of his intelligence or trustworthiness. Don't let those tarring skills go to waste Thanks for the tip. He

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone 3GS encryption "useless"

2009-07-25 Thread Jeff Wright
> The trick is to install an alternative kernel (operating system) on > the device and then copy the data off. I don't know that there is any > computer that can't be defeated this way. That's not the point. The point was to demonstrate how easy it is to hack a device that someone drags with them

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone 3GS encryption "useless"

2009-07-25 Thread Jordan
Yet another belligerent ass! t.piwowar wrote: Also check out Zdziarski's website for a lengthy attack on health care reform... http://www.zdziarski.com/ * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, pr

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone 3GS encryption "useless"

2009-07-25 Thread Mike
But a correct belligerent ass. Sent from my iPod On Jul 25, 2009, at 6:59 AM, Jordan wrote: Yet another belligerent ass! t.piwowar wrote: Also check out Zdziarski's website for a lengthy attack on health care reform... http://www.zdziarski.com/ *** ***

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone 3GS encryption "useless"

2009-07-25 Thread Jordan
Yet another belligerent ass! Mike wrote: But a correct belligerent ass. Sent from my iPod On Jul 25, 2009, at 6:59 AM, Jordan wrote: Yet another belligerent ass! t.piwowar wrote: * ** List info, subscription man

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone 3GS encryption "useless"

2009-07-25 Thread mike
Being an ass doesn't piss people off, it's when they are right they get angry about it...see Jordan for details. :) On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 9:25 AM, Jordan wrote: > Yet another belligerent ass! > > Mike wrote: > >> But a correct belligerent ass. >> >> Sent from my iPod >> >> On Jul 25, 2009, at

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone 3GS encryption "useless"

2009-07-25 Thread t.piwowar
On Jul 25, 2009, at 9:49 AM, Jeff Wright wrote: That's not the point. The point was to demonstrate how easy it is to hack a device that someone drags with them everywhere. On Jul 25, 2009, at 9:49 AM, Jeff Wright wrote: Very true. But his point is how pathetic the encryption is on the iPh

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone 3GS encryption "useless"

2009-07-25 Thread t.piwowar
On Jul 25, 2009, at 12:35 PM, mike wrote: Being an ass doesn't piss people off, it's when they are right they get angry about it...see Jordan for details. :) And this guy is definitely far right. To deserve our attention it takes a lot more than the ability to pull off a minor computer tr

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone 3GS encryption "useless"

2009-07-25 Thread t.piwowar
A more important story to be watching... "Microsoft to fix critical hole in IE" http://news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-10295592-245.html Note that M$ has admitted to a serious problem, but has not issued any fix. iPhone owners, of course, have nothing to worry about on these grounds. ***

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone 3GS encryption "useless"

2009-07-25 Thread Jeff Wright
> We judge people by the whole of what they do. Or in your case, what they believe. He's a double heretic! Shun him! Shun him! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmne

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone 3GS encryption "useless"

2009-07-25 Thread mike
And you are left...it's not about right or left, the first question should be, is the info correct? The next is, do I care? I've read many parts of the bill, those things he lists are in it...so the question is, do you care? On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 10:03 AM, t.piwowar wrote: > On Jul 25, 2009,

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone 3GS encryption "useless"

2009-07-25 Thread t.piwowar
On Jul 25, 2009, at 1:14 PM, mike wrote: I've read many parts of the bill, those things he lists are in it...so the question is, do you care? Propaganda. There is no bill at this point. There are at least 3 very different proposed bills circulating. **

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone 3GS encryption "useless"

2009-07-25 Thread Jeff Wright
> What I said is precisely the point. If you lose physical control of > any device, the information in the device can be hacked by someone > who is an expert. In some cases (e.g. Windows) you don't even have to > be an expert: a quick Google search will lead to quick and easy methods. REMAIN CALM!

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone 3GS encryption "useless"

2009-07-25 Thread Jeff Wright
> iPhone owners, of course, have nothing to worry about on these grounds. Oh no, nothing at all. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=com.microsoft%3Aen-us&q=iphone+vulner abilities&aq=f&oq=&aqi= Results 1 - 10 of about 2,620,000 for iphone vulnerabilities. (0.13 seconds) ***

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone 3GS encryption "useless"

2009-07-25 Thread mike
Who uses IE? On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 10:15 AM, t.piwowar wrote: > A more important story to be watching... > "Microsoft to fix critical hole in IE" > http://news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-10295592-245.html > > Note that M$ has admitted to a serious problem, but has not issued any fix. > > iPhone own

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone 3GS encryption "useless"

2009-07-25 Thread mike
As I said, you are far left and carrying the big O's water, move along don't pay attention, we'll pass another 1000 page bill in hours before anyone can read it. Keeping it somewhat on our grounds, O was supposed to post bills online for five days for public comment before passage...guess that's n

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone 3GS encryption "useless"

2009-07-25 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Not only that the Senate has not passed anything yet and if it does it all goes to a conference committee, and you never know what will come out of one of those. I am just hoping they come up with something that will help us middle class folks whose insurance is higher than all get out. Stew

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone 3GS encryption "useless"

2009-07-25 Thread mike
All these things are dynamic, but the website listed some details in the bills that are proposed. Keep the faith Rev, God knows I have none when it comes to the rats in DC. On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Rev. Stewart Marshall < popoz...@earthlink.net> wrote: > Not only that the Senate has not

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone 3GS encryption "useless"

2009-07-25 Thread Chris Dunford
> Who uses IE? I do. I like IE8 a lot. It's the first version of IE I've ever liked. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguy

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone 3GS encryption "useless"

2009-07-25 Thread mike
I still can't get past not having search plug ins. I might use chrome or safari if it just had some good search options. On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Chris Dunford wrote: > > Who uses IE? > > I do. I like IE8 a lot. It's the first version of IE I've ever liked. > > > **

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone 3GS encryption "useless"

2009-07-25 Thread Jeff Wright
> I still can't get past not having search plug ins. I might use chrome or > safari if it just had some good search options. Search works fine. It's not having add-ons like Adblock and NoScript that sinks IE for me. I also like how Firefox will spell-check forum/blog postings on the fly.

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone 3GS encryption "useless"

2009-07-25 Thread mike
Search doesn't work fine unless I just want one search engine...I have over a dozen I use all the time. Check out mycroft for available plug ins for FF. And I'd not use IE, I just can't get past it's...past. On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Jeff Wright wrote: > > I still can't get past not ha

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone 3GS encryption "useless"

2009-07-25 Thread t.piwowar
On Jul 25, 2009, at 1:29 PM, Jeff Wright wrote: REMAIN CALM! ALL IS WELL! And watch out for those guys on the motorcycles waving truncheons. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** **

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone 3GS encryption "useless"

2009-07-25 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Boy you must live in a rough neighborhood. Stewart At 02:04 PM 7/25/2009, you wrote: And watch out for those guys on the motorcycles waving truncheons. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 ***

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone 3GS encryption "useless"

2009-07-25 Thread Jordan
There is so much money against doing what the public wants and needs right now that I think all we can hope for is a step in the right direction. If we could get something in there that is not insurance it would be good. Every other industrialized country in the world has single payer healthcar

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone 3GS encryption "useless"

2009-07-25 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Just this past May my mother fell in France and broke both her femurs. My mother has both Medicare and Tricare for life. (My father was retired military reserves) Medicare will not cover you outside the US. Tricare will cover her surgery and hospital stay but it had to be paid for up front.

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone 3GS encryption "useless"

2009-07-25 Thread Jeff Miles
I was thinking about this issue of needing more time the other day. I've come to the conclusion we need to treat congress as we do children. After all, they act just like children. Can you imagine telling your child to check everything in his room, categorize what he wants and doesn't, dec

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone 3GS encryption "useless"

2009-07-25 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 4:18 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: > There is a better way to do this and it is going to take some time, but it > is about time they start addressing it. This health insurance mess reminds me of the oil dependency mess. Both subjects have been talked and talked and ta

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone 3GS encryption "useless"

2009-07-25 Thread Matthew Taylor
No, it is a corporation exercising on behalf of its stockholders the right "to petition the government for a redress of grievances". Matthew On Jul 25, 2009, at 5:17 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: Bribery works, and money flowing to elected representatives from corporations is nothing but th

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone 3GS encryption "useless"

2009-07-25 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 7:31 PM, Matthew Taylor wrote: > No, it is a corporation exercising on behalf of its stockholders the right > "to petition the government for a redress of grievances". Say what? * ** List info, su

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone 3GS encryption "useless"

2009-07-25 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
There is redress for actual grievances and then there is outright blackmail and corporate bribery. I think Congress has found a way to make bribery and blackmail look like redress. Stewart At 07:06 PM 7/25/2009, you wrote: On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 7:31 PM, Matthew Taylor wrote: > No, it i

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone 3GS encryption "useless"

2009-07-25 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 8:22 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:] > I think Congress has found a way to make bribery and blackmail look like > redress. Not just Congress. The corporations are also involved. They both refer to the activity as "free speech." Steve

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone 3GS encryption "useless"

2009-07-25 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
If congress did not encourage and allow it corporations would not do it. It is a two way street of greed. Stewart At 07:50 PM 7/25/2009, you wrote: On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 8:22 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:] > I think Congress has found a way to make bribery and blackmail look like > redr

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone 3GS encryption "useless"

2009-07-25 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 8:59 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: > If congress did not encourage and allow it corporations would not do it. Encourage it? Members of Congress quite openly ask, and in some cases, virtually demand money from corporations in exchange for their services on behalf of t

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone 3GS encryption "useless"

2009-07-25 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
That is what I am talking about. Real campaign reform would look like this: All monies raised for campaign expenses must be raised within the sate of residence congress people live in. NO corporate monies allowed. No monies from out of state and no PAC's. Wisconsin had one of the tightest r

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone 3GS encryption "useless"

2009-07-25 Thread t.piwowar
On Jul 25, 2009, at 3:14 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Boy you must live in a rough neighborhood. Cguysville * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member ma

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone 3GS encryption "useless"

2009-07-29 Thread Jeff Wright
> iPhone owners, of course, have nothing to worry about on these grounds. Oh no, nothing at all. iPhone SMS attack to be unleashed at Black Hat http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9136012/iPhone_SMS_attack_to_be_unlea shed_at_Black_Hat?source=rss_news

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone 3GS encryption "useless"

2009-07-31 Thread TPiwowar
On Jul 29, 2009, at 7:53 AM, Jeff Wright wrote: iPhone SMS attack to be unleashed at Black Hat "Apple on Friday released iPhone Software Update 3.0.1, which fixes the SMS vulnerability demonstrated at the Black Hat security conference on Thursday." Next-day service on security fixes. Hard

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone 3GS encryption "useless"

2009-07-31 Thread mike
Next day, six weeks...whatever... On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 4:00 PM, TPiwowar wrote: > On Jul 29, 2009, at 7:53 AM, Jeff Wright wrote: > >> iPhone SMS attack to be unleashed at Black Hat >> > > "Apple on Friday released iPhone Software Update 3.0.1, which fixes the SMS > vulnerability demonstrat

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone 3GS encryption "useless"

2009-08-01 Thread TPiwowar
On Jul 31, 2009, at 7:18 PM, mike wrote: Next day, six weeks...whatever... I accept your resignation. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and m

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone 3GS encryption "useless"

2009-08-01 Thread mike
You must have missed the part where apple was notified of this security issue weeks ago...I know you wouldn't choose to ignore facts like that. On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 8:01 AM, TPiwowar wrote: > On Jul 31, 2009, at 7:18 PM, mike wrote: > >> Next day, six weeks...whatever... >> > > I accept your r

[CGUYS] iPhone unlimited [was online storage]

2009-11-04 Thread b_s-wilk
In WA state, unlimited calling and a data plan for an iPhone is $130/ mo. It's only $70 / mo where you are? Cavan [and some of my friends] has an iPhone 3G with unlimited data, and 450 minutes with rollover. He texts using the data plan or WiFi rather than SMS, but has the additional text pa

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone roaming on WiFi

2008-06-10 Thread mike
My brother in laws iphone does that. Mike On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 2:01 PM, b_s-wilk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does the iPhone use WiFi for roaming when there's an open network but no > AT&T network? Some WiFi phones switch automatically. How about the iPhone? > > Betty > > > *

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone roaming on WiFi

2008-06-10 Thread b_s-wilk
At the WWDC keynote today, http://www.apple.com/quicktime/qtv/wwdc08/, Apple announced that their 8GB 3G iPhone will cost $199 when it's released in July. That's cheaper than the Touch and the same price as the Nano. Now I have to find out if I can buy it unlocked, and what features are missi

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone roaming on WiFi

2008-06-10 Thread mike
I found the iPhone very small compared to other pda phones. The 199 is with two year commitment. Mike On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 7:47 PM, b_s-wilk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At the WWDC keynote today, http://www.apple.com/quicktime/qtv/wwdc08/, > Apple announced that their 8GB 3G iPhone will cos

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone roaming on WiFi

2008-06-10 Thread b_s-wilk
Guess I may have to buy it in Europe or elsewhere after all. Thanks. I found the iPhone very small compared to other pda phones. The 199 is with two year commitment. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules,

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone roaming on WiFi

2008-06-11 Thread Jeff Wright
I'd say it's about the same size as a Blackberry Curve, maybe a bit bigger. Keep in mind that while the cost of the iPhone has finally come down to a reasonable price (suck it up, early adopters), the cost of the 3G data plan is higher. > -Original Message- > I found the iPhone very small

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone overtakes Windows Mobile

2009-12-17 Thread mike
Bout time...WM sucks...bad... You can see Balmer being an idiot for that first week or so the iPhone was out after he laughed about Apple putting out a smartphone...but it took him what? Almost two years to kick some ass in the WM group and it's going to be another year before we see devices? An

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone 4, Engineering thoughts

2010-06-28 Thread tjpa
Good analysis and later confirmed by one of the commentators. It is also interesting to note how many of the other commentators just won't let go of the original story. On Jun 28, 2010, at 1:26 PM, John DeCarlo wrote: From Steve Gibson (and his recommendation of a reply to read): The iPhone

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone 4, Engineering thoughts

2010-06-28 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 4:07 PM, tjpa wrote: > Good analysis and later confirmed by one of the commentators. > > It is also interesting to note how many of the other commentators just won't > let go of the original story. So, what is the original story? I only saw stories about how the antenn

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone 4, Engineering thoughts

2010-06-28 Thread mike
Also troublesome was that Apple admitted the problem... Spin that, Tom. On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 1:07 PM, tjpa wrote: > Good analysis and later confirmed by one of the commentators. > > It is also interesting to note how many of the other commentators just > won't let go of the original story. >

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone 4, Engineering thoughts

2010-06-28 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 4:26 PM, mike wrote: > Also troublesome was that Apple admitted the problem... Did Apple admit to a problem? What was the problem that Apple Corp. admitted to? I only know of Mr, Jobs mentioning the problem of purchasers of the device not knowing how to hold it in a m

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone 4, Engineering thoughts

2010-06-28 Thread mike
"Gripping any mobile phone will result in some attenuation of its antenna performance, with certain places being worse than others depending on the placement of the antennas. This is a fact of life for every wireless phone. If you ever experience this on your iPhone 4, avoid gripping it in the lowe

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone 4, Engineering thoughts

2010-06-28 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 5:04 PM, mike wrote: > "Gripping any mobile phone will result in some attenuation of its antenna > performance, with certain places being worse than others depending on the > placement of the antennas. This is a fact of life for every wireless phone. > If you ever experien

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone 4, Engineering thoughts

2010-06-28 Thread tjpa
Read Gibson's analysis and you will understand that this is really a very marginal problem. If one has good signal strength it won't matter how you hold the phone. If your signal strength is about to go over a cliff, anything you do can potentially push you over. One of those things is touc

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone 4, Engineering thoughts

2010-06-28 Thread mike
I say tongue and cheek. Half of what Jobs says is spin or disingenuous. At his heart, he's just a car salesman...good cars though. On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 3:06 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: > > > You say spin, I'll offer disingenuous. > > Steve > > > *

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