Re: [Cooker] Why doesn't kde require X

2003-10-31 Thread Andrey Borzenkov
I was setting up a chroot environment tonight and I did 'urpmi --root /mnt/newroot kmail' and XFree86 did not get installed. Is this normal or correct? you need XFree86-libs to run X11 programs and XFree86 to run them on local display. You may as well want to run them on remote display

[Cooker] Why doesn't kde require X

2003-10-30 Thread Greg Meyer
I was setting up a chroot environment tonight and I did 'urpmi --root /mnt/newroot kmail' and XFree86 did not get installed. Is this normal or correct? -- /g Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read -Groucho Marx

Re: [Cooker] Why Is My Update Broken?

2003-09-21 Thread Ron Stodden
rsync-plus. The documentation of rsync-plus on my web site (see sig) has been updated so as to now include instructions for executing the rsync-plus perl modules. Thanks for bringing this oversight to my attention. To cause rsync-plus to download Mandrake for all languages, just don't

[Cooker] Why Is My Update Broken?

2003-09-20 Thread Felix Miata
I installed fresh from my sunet cooker rsync about three days ago. Last night (around 02:00 UTC) I freshened my rsync, then did the following: 1-urpmi.addmedia --update cooker-updates file://mnt/nfs/ax5t3/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS with ../base/hdlist.cz 2-urpmi -a 3-urpmi -v --auto-select 4-urpmi

Re: [Cooker] Why Is My Update Broken?

2003-09-20 Thread Ron Stodden
Felix, et al, Are you not aware of our very popular fastest Mandrake downloader? It will always beat the use of raw rsync when there are updates to download. See sig. It properly downloads updated kernel RPMs usually distributed in Mandrake Updates. These are correctly installed as

Re: [Cooker] Why Is My Update Broken?

2003-09-20 Thread Felix Miata
Ron Stodden wrote: Are you not aware of our very popular fastest Mandrake downloader? It will always beat the use of raw rsync when there are updates to download. See sig. It properly downloads updated kernel RPMs usually distributed in Mandrake Updates. These are correctly installed

Re: [Cooker] Why Is My Update Broken?

2003-09-20 Thread Randy Welch
Ron Stodden wrote: Felix, et al, Are you not aware of our very popular fastest Mandrake downloader? It will always beat the use of raw rsync when there are updates to download. See sig. I can vouch for the rsync scripts Ron has. I have switched to that for syncing with cooker. -randy

Re: [Cooker] Why Is My Update Broken?

2003-09-20 Thread Randy Welch
Felix Miata wrote: I don't use Lilo. I don't want additional Grub stanzas simply because I installed a newer kernel either. Why should I need the old after upgrading? Because occasionally a newer kernel can cause problems. Plus having two different versions of the kernel can help checkout

Re: [Cooker] Why Is My Update Broken?

2003-09-20 Thread Thomas Backlund
Felix Miata kirjoitti viestissään (lähetysaika Lauantai 20 Syyskuu 2003 20:47): Ron Stodden wrote: Are you not aware of our very popular fastest Mandrake downloader? It will always beat the use of raw rsync when there are updates to download. See sig. It properly downloads updated

Re: [Cooker] Why Is My Update Broken?

2003-09-20 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2003-09-20 at 17:27, Felix Miata wrote: I installed fresh from my sunet cooker rsync about three days ago. Last night (around 02:00 UTC) I freshened my rsync, then did the following: 1-urpmi.addmedia --update cooker-updates file://mnt/nfs/ax5t3/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS with

Re: [Cooker] Why Is My Update Broken?

2003-09-20 Thread Robert L martin
Packages tend to be propagated to mirrors before the hdlists, so if you happen to catch a mirror while it's busy updating, you may well find a situation where the hdlist it has no longer reflects the packages it has. Thus the missing packages (these would be ones that had been updated twice since

Re: [Cooker] why is cups-drivers dependant on XFree86 ?

2003-08-14 Thread Olivier Thauvin
Le Mardi 05 Août 2003 22:06, Lea Gris a écrit : Hi, Why is cups-drivers dependant on XFree86 ? What if I want to setup a network printer server without XFree ? urpmi cups-drivers Pour satisfaire les dépendances, les paquetages suivants vont être installés (39 Mo):

[Cooker] why is cups-drivers dependant on XFree86 ?

2003-08-14 Thread Lea Gris
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Why is cups-drivers dependant on XFree86 ? What if I want to setup a network printer server without XFree ? urpmi cups-drivers Pour satisfaire les dépendances, les paquetages suivants vont être installés (39 Mo): XFree86-libs-4.3-5mdk.i586

Re: [Cooker] why is cups-drivers dependant on XFree86 ?

2003-08-09 Thread Michael Scherer
On Tuesday 05 August 2003 22:06, Lea Gris wrote: Hi, Why is cups-drivers dependant on XFree86 ? What if I want to setup a network printer server without XFree ? urpmi cups-drivers Pour satisfaire les dépendances, les paquetages suivants vont être installés (39 Mo):

Re: [Cooker] Why obsoletes don't work with urpmi?

2003-07-21 Thread Franois Pons
Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: François, this still seems to be here: $ rpm -q urpmi perl-URPM urpmi-4.4-8mdk perl-URPM-0.91-12mdk $ rpm -q LinPopUp linpopup LinPopUp-1.2.0-3mdk package linpopup is not installed $ urpmf --obsoletes LinPopUp linpopup:LinPopUp $ urpmf --provides

Re: [Cooker] Why obsoletes don't work with urpmi?

2003-07-21 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Buchan Milne wrote: François Pons wrote: Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But I want 'urpmi --auto-select' to update it ... Strange, the obsoletes should have indicated to urpmi to updated LinPopUp using linpopup, which is what is

Re: [Cooker] Why obsoletes don't work with urpmi?

2003-07-16 Thread Franois Pons
Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But I want 'urpmi --auto-select' to update it ... Strange, the obsoletes should have indicated to urpmi to updated LinPopUp using linpopup, which is what is requested... François.

Re: [Cooker] Why obsoletes don't work with urpmi?

2003-07-16 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Charles A Edwards wrote: On Wed, 09 Jul 2003 16:25:51 +0200 Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why does the obsoleting package not get installed over the obsoleted package? Name change to linpopup Both pkg provide Only LinPopUp but with

Re: [Cooker] Why obsoletes don't work with urpmi?

2003-07-16 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 François Pons wrote: Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But I want 'urpmi --auto-select' to update it ... Strange, the obsoletes should have indicated to urpmi to updated LinPopUp using linpopup, which is what is requested... And I want to

Re: [Cooker] Why obsoletes don't work with urpmi?

2003-07-09 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Wed, 09 Jul 2003 16:25:51 +0200 Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why does the obsoleting package not get installed over the obsoleted package? Name change to linpopup Both pkg provide Only LinPopUp but with name change linpopup Should also provide LinPopUp = %version-%release urpmi

[Cooker] Why obsoletes don't work with urpmi?

2003-07-09 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 $ rpm -q LinPopUp LinPopUp-1.2.0-3mdk $ urpmq -r LinPopUp linpopup-2.0.1-1mdk|LinPopUp-1.2.0-3mdk # urpmi LinPopUp Everything already installed $ rpm -qp --obsoletes linpopup-2.0.1-1mdk.i586.rpm LinPopUp Why does the obsoleting package not get

Re: [Cooker] Why obsoletes don't work with urpmi?

2003-07-09 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Wed, 09 Jul 2003 16:25:51 +0200 Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why does the obsoleting package not get installed over the obsoleted package? Name change to linpopup Both pkg provide Only LinPopUp but with name change linpopup Should also provide LinPopUp = %version-%release urpmi

[Cooker] why is PF_MEMDIE removed from mdk kernel?

2003-06-14 Thread danny
Juan, I'm working a bit on new kernel-multimedia again and noticed you removed PF_MEMDIE from the mdk kernel. This may cause a task not to die under OOM? According to this, you agreed to that: http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/linux/linux-kernel/2003-01/1165.html Although, I guess this situation is not

[Cooker] Why most (all?) Unix/Linux configuration gui/systems suck (was Re: Cyrus-imapd 2.1.13)

2003-06-08 Thread Brian J. Murrell
On Sat, 07 Jun 2003 15:13:11 +0200, Luca Berra wrote: I would personally like a single framework for configuration, but all frameworks i found in 13 years working on unix systems do suck far more than vi. The reason they all suck worse than vi is because they all aim far too low. They all

Re: [Cooker] why have ifplugd default? (Was super-rant, gibberish, out-of-line, spontanious - sorry ;)

2003-06-06 Thread Levi Ramsey
On Wed Jun 04 14:14 -0400, Jason Straight wrote: On Wednesday 04 June 2003 02:06 pm, Adam Williamson wrote: Doesn't ifplugd also solve the problem some saw where, if they happened to be disconnected from the network for some reason, it would sit there on boot trying to get an IP address for

Re: [Cooker] why have ifplugd default? (Was super-rant, gibberish,out-of-line, spontanious - sorry ;)

2003-06-06 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Levi Ramsey wrote: On Wed Jun 04 14:14 -0400, Jason Straight wrote: Perhaps during install asking if the system will be used as a server it should not have ifplugd? I've proposed it before, but here goes again: Why not have multiple editions of

[Cooker] Why am I receiving large numbers of emain to thi address? please remedy

2003-06-06 Thread Geoff Sheldrake
__ Yahoo! Plus - For a better Internet experience http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/yplus/yoffer.html

Re: [Cooker] Why am I receiving large numbers of emain to thi address? please remedy

2003-06-06 Thread Svetoslav Slavtchev
Quoting Geoff Sheldrake [EMAIL PROTECTED]: __ Yahoo! Plus - For a better Internet experience http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/yplus/yoffer.html you are not the only one :((

[Cooker] why have ifplugd default? (Was super-rant,gibberish, out-of-line, spontanious - sorry ;)

2003-06-05 Thread Jason Straight
Ok, now that I've taken time to collect myself and calm the fsck down. Why is ifplugd default? If it's for laptop users who switch network locations: 1. Why build the distro for laptops when more use it on desktops? 2. Who ever switches network cables and needs to have it reconfigured for

Re: [Cooker] why have ifplugd default? (Was super-rant,gibberish,out-of-line, spontanious - sorry ;)

2003-06-05 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jason Straight wrote: Ok, now that I've taken time to collect myself and calm the fsck down. Why is ifplugd default? If it's for laptop users who switch network locations: 1. Why build the distro for laptops when more use it on desktops? Let's

Re: [Cooker] why have ifplugd default? (Was super-rant,gibberish, out-of-line, spontanious - sorry ;)

2003-06-05 Thread Jason Straight
On Wednesday 04 June 2003 01:42 pm, Buchan Milne wrote: Jason Straight wrote: Ok, now that I've taken time to collect myself and calm the fsck down. Why is ifplugd default? If it's for laptop users who switch network locations: 1. Why build the distro for laptops when more use it on

Re: [Cooker] why have ifplugd default? (Was super-rant, gibberish, out-of-line, spontanious - sorry ;)

2003-06-05 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2003-06-04 at 18:42, Buchan Milne wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jason Straight wrote: Ok, now that I've taken time to collect myself and calm the fsck down. Why is ifplugd default? If it's for laptop users who switch network locations: 1. Why build

Re: [Cooker] why have ifplugd default? (Was super-rant, gibberish, out-of-line, spontanious - sorry ;)

2003-06-05 Thread Jason Straight
On Wednesday 04 June 2003 02:06 pm, Adam Williamson wrote: Doesn't ifplugd also solve the problem some saw where, if they happened to be disconnected from the network for some reason, it would sit there on boot trying to get an IP address for five minutes? ISTR that's one of its functions,

Re: [Cooker] why have ifplugd default? (Was super-rant,gibberish,out-of-line, spontanious - sorry ;)

2003-06-05 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jason Straight wrote: On Wednesday 04 June 2003 01:42 pm, Buchan Milne wrote: 2. Who ever switches network cables and needs to have it reconfigured for them? Users (ie not admins). I mean how often does someone really travel to another location

Re: [Cooker] why have ifplugd default? (Was super-rant, gibberish,out-of-line, spontanious - sorry ;)

2003-06-05 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jason Straight wrote: On Wednesday 04 June 2003 02:06 pm, Adam Williamson wrote: Perhaps during install asking if the system will be used as a server it should not have ifplugd? Well, it is there in the network config dialog if you run it in

Re: [Cooker] why have ifplugd default? (Was super-rant,gibberish, out-of-line, spontanious - sorry ;)

2003-06-05 Thread Brook Humphrey
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 04 June 2003 11:02, Jason Straight wrote: I'm not saying drop it - but why (by default) configure mdk install for laptops? If that's the case why not have APM configured to suspend after 10 mins of inactivity? Or configure the system

Re: [Cooker] why have ifplugd default? (Was super-rant,gibberish, out-of-line, spontanious - sorry ;)

2003-06-05 Thread Ken Thompson
On Wednesday 04 June 2003 12:02 pm, Jason Straight wrote: I wish it would just leave them alone - if I configure something my way I don't expect some program to go and take the liberty of changing it for what it thinks I want. I agree with this part 1% ! ! After trying Red Hat 8 and

Re: [Cooker] Why there isn't Beijing in timezone?

2003-05-28 Thread Thierry Vignaud
Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: UTC-8 is presented by Shanghai, it is very strange. Beijing is the capital of China. So, there is no reason that Beijing is not in the list. I want to file a bug, but I don't know which packages are related. Who can help me? Ottawa is

Re: [Cooker] Why there isn't Beijing in timezone?

2003-05-28 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Mandrake Simplified Chinese [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: UTC-8 is presented by Shanghai, it is very strange. Beijing is the capital of China. So, there is no reason that Beijing is not in the list. I want to file a bug, but I don't know which packages are related. Who can help me? Timezones

[Cooker] Why there isn't Beijing in timezone?

2003-05-27 Thread Mandrake Simplified Chinese
UTF-8 is presented by Shanghai, it is very strange. Beijing is the capital of China. So, there is no reason that Beijing is not in the list. I want to file a bug, but I don't know which packages are related. Who can help me? Thanx.

[Cooker] Why there isn't Beijing in timezone?

2003-05-27 Thread Mandrake Simplified Chinese
UTC-8 is presented by Shanghai, it is very strange. Beijing is the capital of China. So, there is no reason that Beijing is not in the list. I want to file a bug, but I don't know which packages are related. Who can help me? Thanx.

Re: [Cooker] Why there isn't Beijing in timezone?

2003-05-27 Thread Austin
On 2003.05.27 12:22, Mandrake Simplified Chinese wrote: UTC-8 is presented by Shanghai, it is very strange. Beijing is the capital of China. So, there is no reason that Beijing is not in the list. I want to file a bug, but I don't know which packages are related. Who can help me? Ottawa is the

Re: [Cooker] Why there isn't Beijing in timezone?

2003-05-27 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Austin wrote: On 2003.05.27 12:22, Mandrake Simplified Chinese wrote: UTC-8 is presented by Shanghai, it is very strange. Beijing is the capital of China. So, there is no reason that Beijing is not in the list. I want to file a bug, but I don't

Re: [Cooker] Why there isn't Beijing in timezone?

2003-05-27 Thread andre
On Tuesday 27 May 2003 18:58, Buchan Milne wrote: I guess GMT is covered by London? GMT doesn't use summertime IIRC. London does

Re: [Cooker] Why there isn't Beijing in timezone?

2003-05-27 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 andre wrote: On Tuesday 27 May 2003 18:58, Buchan Milne wrote: I guess GMT is covered by London? GMT doesn't use summertime IIRC. London does I should have added a ;-). Buchan (girlfriend currently in UK, with daylight-saving so there's only 1

Re: [Cooker] Why there isn't Beijing in timezone?

2003-05-27 Thread Pierre Jarillon
Le Mardi 27 Mai 2003 21:03, andre a écrit : On Tuesday 27 May 2003 18:58, Buchan Milne wrote: I guess GMT is covered by London? GMT doesn't use summertime IIRC. London does GMT is the former date. Now, the time is UTC (Universal Time Coordinated) A very good documentation is found in

Re: [Cooker] Why do we have pspell?

2003-03-26 Thread Oden Eriksson
måndagen den 24 mars 2003 11.24 skrev Oden Eriksson: måndagen den 24 mars 2003 10.57 skrev Marcel Pol: On Mon, 24 Mar 2003 08:14:53 +0100 Oden Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why do we still have the pspell package(s) in the distro? It conflicts with aspell, and I've heard from

Re: [Cooker] Why do we have pspell?

2003-03-24 Thread Marcel Pol
On Mon, 24 Mar 2003 08:14:53 +0100 Oden Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why do we still have the pspell package(s) in the distro? It conflicts with aspell, and I've heard from others that aspell provides a pspell library. Also, nothing in the distro appears to require the pspell

Re: [Cooker] Why do we have pspell?

2003-03-24 Thread Oden Eriksson
måndagen den 24 mars 2003 10.57 skrev Marcel Pol: On Mon, 24 Mar 2003 08:14:53 +0100 Oden Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why do we still have the pspell package(s) in the distro? It conflicts with aspell, and I've heard from others that aspell provides a pspell library. Also,

[Cooker] Why do we have pspell?

2003-03-23 Thread David Walser
Why do we still have the pspell package(s) in the distro? It conflicts with aspell, and I've heard from others that aspell provides a pspell library. Also, nothing in the distro appears to require the pspell packages.

Re: [Cooker] Why do we have pspell?

2003-03-23 Thread Oden Eriksson
måndagen den 24 mars 2003 01.43 skrev David Walser: Why do we still have the pspell package(s) in the distro? It conflicts with aspell, and I've heard from others that aspell provides a pspell library. Also, nothing in the distro appears to require the pspell packages. php-spell --

[Cooker] why doesn't apache2 use mod_cgid by default ?

2003-03-08 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Current apache2 conf load mod_cgi module, whereas documentation advises to use mod_cgid on Unix platform. They only talk of performance issues, but i was unable to run some CGI script with long output using mod_cgi. Just commenting LoadModule statement for mod_cgi and uncommenting LoadModule

[Cooker] Why kdeedu is not in rc2?

2003-03-05 Thread francisco
Is this a forgotten? Why kdeedu is not included in any of the 3 cds in rc2? -- Francisco Alcaraz Ariza Departamento de Biología Vegetal Universidad de Murcia E-30100 Murcia España (Spain)

Re: [Cooker] Why can't I set a hostname on a dhcp network

2003-03-04 Thread Bruno Prior
John Allen wrote: It is dhclient. You will need to do a man dhclient.conf and create a suitable dhclient.conf file. Again I will say that this is ridiculous, can we not just go back to dhcpcd as the default DHCP client. I'd like to second this. I run linux at work and home and have a laptop I

Re: [Cooker] Why can't I set a hostname on a dhcp network

2003-03-03 Thread John Allen
On Monday 03 March 2003 03:45, Greg Meyer wrote: I have been going over this and over this on my machine and no matter what I change, I cannot set a hostname on a machine when dhcp is being used. It will only use the name supplied by dhcp server, which is not what I want. Is it

Re: [Cooker] Why can't I set a hostname on a dhcp network

2003-03-03 Thread Greg Meyer
On Monday 03 March 2003 03:19 am, John Allen wrote: Is it tmdns/zeroconf or dhclient? It is dhclient. You will need to do a man dhclient.conf and create a suitable dhclient.conf file. Why should a distro that is supposed to be easy for newbies require one to man dhclient.conf and manually

[Cooker] Why can't I set a hostname on a dhcp network

2003-03-02 Thread Greg Meyer
I have been going over this and over this on my machine and no matter what I change, I cannot set a hostname on a machine when dhcp is being used. It will only use the name supplied by dhcp server, which is not what I want. Is it tmdns/zeroconf or dhclient? Is it desired behavior to not allow

Re: [Cooker] Why can't I set a hostname on a dhcp network

2003-03-02 Thread Lonnie Borntreger
On Sun, 2003-03-02 at 21:45, Greg Meyer wrote: I have been going over this and over this on my machine and no matter what I change, I cannot set a hostname on a machine when dhcp is being used. It will only use the name supplied by dhcp server, which is not what I want. Try setting both

Re: [Cooker] Why can't I set a hostname on a dhcp network

2003-03-02 Thread Greg Meyer
On Sunday 02 March 2003 10:53 pm, Lonnie Borntreger wrote: On Sun, 2003-03-02 at 21:45, Greg Meyer wrote: I have been going over this and over this on my machine and no matter what I change, I cannot set a hostname on a machine when dhcp is being used. It will only use the name supplied by

Re: [Cooker] Why can't I set a hostname on a dhcp network

2003-03-02 Thread Lonnie Borntreger
On Sun, 2003-03-02 at 21:58, Greg Meyer wrote: On Sunday 02 March 2003 10:53 pm, Lonnie Borntreger wrote: On Sun, 2003-03-02 at 21:45, Greg Meyer wrote: I have been going over this and over this on my machine and no matter what I change, I cannot set a hostname on a machine when dhcp is

Re: [Cooker] Why can't I set a hostname on a dhcp network

2003-03-02 Thread Greg Meyer
On Sunday 02 March 2003 11:19 pm, Lonnie Borntreger wrote: If all those are yes, then you'll need to check the logs and see what errors if any are coming back to you. Of course the problem could be the server. Have you been able to set the hostname before? That is an affirmative on 9.0,

Re: [Cooker] WHY HAVE YOU CHANGE KDM WITH THIS HORRIBLE LOGINMANAGER ??????

2003-02-03 Thread Warly
Shift [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi all, I just upgrade my Mandrake and when I restart my X session my kdm has been replaced by an HORRIBLE login manager. Can you explain me why Mandrake has patch the original kdm to changed it in this fucking DM that I hate ? Do you want to be worst than

Re: [Cooker] WHY HAVE YOU CHANGE KDM WITH THIS HORRIBLE LOGIN MANAGER ??????

2003-02-03 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le Lundi 3 Février 2003 13:12, Warly a écrit : So REMOVE THIS FUCKING LOGIN MANAGER OR YOU WILL LOSE ME AND MOREOVER MONEY !! What a very smart way to lead kde team to answer you. Maybe KDE team could answer to other people then ? For my part, i don't see any advantage over original one.

Re: [Cooker] WHY HAVE YOU CHANGE KDM WITH THIS HORRIBLE LOGIN MANAGER ??????

2003-02-03 Thread Franck Quélain
En réponse à Warly [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Shift [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So REMOVE THIS FUCKING LOGIN MANAGER OR YOU WILL LOSE ME AND MOREOVER MONEY !! What a very smart way to lead kde team to answer you. -- Warly Hi Warly, Ok, the way to make react cooker users was not the best one

Re: [Cooker] WHY HAVE YOU CHANGE KDM WITH THIS HORRIBLE LOGIN MANAGER ??????

2003-02-03 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2003-02-03 at 13:49, Franck Quélain wrote: En réponse à Warly [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Shift [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So REMOVE THIS FUCKING LOGIN MANAGER OR YOU WILL LOSE ME AND MOREOVER MONEY !! What a very smart way to lead kde team to answer you. -- Warly Hi

Re: [Cooker] WHY HAVE YOU CHANGE KDM WITH THIS HORRIBLE LOGIN MANAGER ??????

2003-02-03 Thread Franck Quélain
En réponse à Adam Williamson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, 2003-02-03 at 13:49, Franck Quélain wrote: En réponse à Warly [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Shift [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So REMOVE THIS FUCKING LOGIN MANAGER OR YOU WILL LOSE ME AND MOREOVER MONEY !! What a very smart way to

cause and effect (was: Re: [Cooker] WHY HAVE YOU CHANGE KDM WITH THIS HORRIBLE LOGIN MANAGER ??????)

2003-02-03 Thread Benjamin Pflugmann
On Mon 2003-02-03 at 14:49:01 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Ok, the way to make react cooker users was not the best one but it has worked and that was what I wanted to do. Ah, well, simply assuming causality is a bit far-fetched here. You could also say that Mandrake changed it despite

Re: [Cooker] WHY HAVE YOU CHANGE KDM WITH THIS HORRIBLE LOGIN MANAGER??????

2003-02-01 Thread Buchan Milne
On Sat, 1 Feb 2003, Shift wrote: Moreover I noticed that the login input field has been removed. The user has only the right to choose a user in a list. But HOW this user will do if the linux box has thousnds of users It is an horrible waste of time :( No, I had setup kdm previously to

Re: [Cooker] WHY HAVE YOU CHANGE KDM WITH THIS HORRIBLE LOGIN MANAGER ??????

2003-02-01 Thread John van Spaandonk
On Saturday 01 February 2003 10:12, Buchan Milne wrote: On Sat, 1 Feb 2003, Shift wrote: Moreover I noticed that the login input field has been removed. The user has only the right to choose a user in a list. But HOW this user will do if the linux box has thousnds of users It is an

Re: [Cooker] WHY HAVE YOU CHANGE KDM WITH THIS HORRIBLE LOGIN MANAGER ??????

2003-02-01 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2003-02-01 at 01:57, Lonnie Borntreger wrote: So use GDM. You can use GDM to login to KDE - unless they changed that also. There's a Mandrake theme for GDM...has been since 9.0, I think. It's quite nice. -- adamw

Re: [Cooker] WHY HAVE YOU CHANGE KDM WITH THIS HORRIBLE LOGIN MANAGER ??????

2003-02-01 Thread Shift
Le Samedi 1 Février 2003 02:57, Lonnie Borntreger a écrit : So use GDM. You can use GDM to login to KDE - unless they changed that also. GDM use gtk and if it is not installed (Because I can use only QT apps if I want) and I don't want to install it just for that :)

Re: [Cooker] WHY HAVE YOU CHANGE KDM WITH THIS HORRIBLE LOGIN MANAGER ??????

2003-02-01 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2003-02-01 at 11:41, Shift wrote: Le Samedi 1 Février 2003 02:57, Lonnie Borntreger a écrit : So use GDM. You can use GDM to login to KDE - unless they changed that also. GDM use gtk and if it is not installed (Because I can use only QT apps if I want) and I don't want to

Re: [Cooker] WHY HAVE YOU CHANGE KDM WITH THIS HORRIBLE LOGIN MANAGER ??????

2003-02-01 Thread Shift
Le Samedi 1 Février 2003 13:00, Adam Williamson a écrit : On Sat, 2003-02-01 at 11:41, Shift wrote: Le Samedi 1 Février 2003 02:57, Lonnie Borntreger a écrit : So use GDM. You can use GDM to login to KDE - unless they changed that also. GDM use gtk and if it is not installed (Because

Re: [Cooker] WHY HAVE YOU CHANGE KDM WITH THIS HORRIBLE LOGIN MANAGER ??????

2003-02-01 Thread Austin Acton
On Sat, 2003-02-01 at 07:37, Shift wrote: But if Mandrake tools used QT it will be more better because regarding the time gtk1 apps take to be migrated to gtk2 we will have gtk1 and gtk2 install in our box for years !! But that's an other troll^Wsubject GTK1.2 is only 1.8 meg, and it's

Re: [Cooker] WHY HAVE YOU CHANGE KDM WITH THIS HORRIBLE LOGIN MANAGER ??????

2003-02-01 Thread Maks Orlovich
kde, or when in gnome with kdm also. And so that when runing kdm I can choose New login or whatever better fits for fast user switching. BTW, the code for that is mostly in there (it was actually working for a while during KDE3.1 development) -- including a KMenu New Session entry; the same

Re: [Cooker] WHY HAVE YOU CHANGE KDM WITH THIS HORRIBLE LOGIN MANAGER??????

2003-02-01 Thread Buchan Milne
On Sat, 1 Feb 2003, Maks Orlovich wrote: kde, or when in gnome with kdm also. And so that when runing kdm I can choose New login or whatever better fits for fast user switching. BTW, the code for that is mostly in there (it was actually working for a while during KDE3.1 development) --

Re: [Cooker] WHY HAVE YOU CHANGE KDM WITH THIS HORRIBLE LOGIN MANAGER ??????

2003-02-01 Thread Pascal
Le Samedi 1 Février 2003 02:38, Jason Straight a écrit : Hehe, thanks for having the balls to say it the way I wanted to. I have no problem with mandrake having their own login manager, I don't even care if it's default if that's the way they want to go, but I have to admit that this type of

[Cooker] WHY HAVE YOU CHANGE KDM WITH THIS HORRIBLE LOGIN MANAGER ??????

2003-01-31 Thread Shift
Hi all, I just upgrade my Mandrake and when I restart my X session my kdm has been replaced by an HORRIBLE login manager. Can you explain me why Mandrake has patch the original kdm to changed it in this fucking DM that I hate ? Do you want to be worst than RedHat who patch KDE ? Everybody has

Re: [Cooker] WHY HAVE YOU CHANGE KDM WITH THIS HORRIBLE LOGINMANAGER ??????

2003-01-31 Thread Laurent Culioli
Le sam 01/02/2003 à 02:13, Shift a écrit : Hi all, hi shift I just upgrade my Mandrake and when I restart my X session my kdm has been replaced by an HORRIBLE login manager. Can you explain me why Mandrake has patch the original kdm to changed it in this fucking DM that I hate ? Im

Re: [Cooker] WHY HAVE YOU CHANGE KDM WITH THIS HORRIBLE LOGIN MANAGER??????

2003-01-31 Thread Ryan T. Sammartino
On Sat, Feb 01, 2003 at 02:13:45AM +0100, Shift wrote: Hi all, So REMOVE THIS FUCKING LOGIN MANAGER OR YOU WILL LOSE ME AND MOREOVER MONEY !! I can't speak for MandrakeSoft, but my feelings are So long, and don't let the door hit your ass on the way out. -- Ryan T. Sammartino

Re: [Cooker] WHY HAVE YOU CHANGE KDM WITH THIS HORRIBLE LOGIN MANAGER ??????

2003-01-31 Thread orville
Yes kdm is a part of KDE and guess what. THEY CHANGED IT NOT MANDRAKE! So live with it. I compiled a couple of the release candidates, betas, and even alpha's and this change was made from early on. If you'd chosen to compile it earlier you wouldn't been able to provide some input. But yah

Re: [Cooker] WHY HAVE YOU CHANGE KDM WITH THIS HORRIBLE LOGIN MANAGER ??????

2003-01-31 Thread orville
I digress. After reading laurent's post I decided to log off and see what all the hubbub is about. THAT is definitely not KDE's new login manager. SHIT that thing is ugly. Mandrake please, change it back. On Friday 31 January 2003 20:11, Laurent Culioli wrote: Le sam 01/02/2003 à 02:13, Shift a

Re: [Cooker] WHY HAVE YOU CHANGE KDM WITH THIS HORRIBLE LOGIN MANAGER ??????

2003-01-31 Thread Wesley J Landaker
On Friday 31 January 2003 6:13 pm, Shift wrote: Hi all, I just upgrade my Mandrake and when I restart my X session my kdm has been replaced by an HORRIBLE login manager. I don't agree with the animosity--brand KDM away all you want--but I do agree that the two-stage login thing is *quite*

Re: [Cooker] WHY HAVE YOU CHANGE KDM WITH THIS HORRIBLE LOGINMANAGER ??????

2003-01-31 Thread Laurent Culioli
Le jeu 30/01/2003 à 02:29, orville a écrit : I digress. After reading laurent's post I decided to log off and see what all the hubbub is about. THAT is definitely not KDE's new login manager. SHIT that thing is ugly. Mandrake please, change it back.

Re: [Cooker] WHY HAVE YOU CHANGE KDM WITH THIS HORRIBLE LOGINMANAGER ??????

2003-01-31 Thread Lonnie Borntreger
On Fri, 2003-01-31 at 19:27, Wesley J Landaker wrote: On Friday 31 January 2003 6:13 pm, Shift wrote: Hi all, I just upgrade my Mandrake and when I restart my X session my kdm has been replaced by an HORRIBLE login manager. I don't agree with the animosity--brand KDM away all you

Re: [Cooker] WHY HAVE YOU CHANGE KDM WITH THIS HORRIBLE LOGIN MANAGER ??????

2003-01-31 Thread Shift
Le Samedi 1 Février 2003 02:37, Lonnie Borntreger a écrit : KDM branding can be accomplished with a simple kdmrc change to use a Mandrake specific background image along with the Mandrake star logo. No change needs to be made to KDM itself. Restart your X server you will see that it is not

Re: [Cooker] WHY HAVE YOU CHANGE KDM WITH THIS HORRIBLE LOGIN MANAGER ??????

2003-01-31 Thread Shift
Le Samedi 1 Février 2003 02:54, Shift a écrit : Modifying a big part of antother project is not a patch but a FORK. It is very bad and it is against free software philosophy (IMHO) Presicion : What I want to say is that replacing a big part of a program and allways call it with the original

Re: [Cooker] WHY HAVE YOU CHANGE KDM WITH THIS HORRIBLE LOGIN MANAGER ??????

2003-01-31 Thread Jason Straight
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 29 January 2003 08:17 pm, orville wrote: Yes kdm is a part of KDE and guess what. THEY CHANGED IT NOT MANDRAKE! So live with it. I compiled a couple of the release candidates, betas, and even alpha's and this change was made from early

Re: [Cooker] WHY HAVE YOU CHANGE KDM WITH THIS HORRIBLE LOGIN MANAGER ??????

2003-01-31 Thread Jason Straight
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 31 January 2003 08:37 pm, Lonnie Borntreger wrote: KDM branding can be accomplished with a simple kdmrc change to use a Mandrake specific background image along with the Mandrake star logo. No change needs to be made to KDM itself.

Re: [Cooker] WHY HAVE YOU CHANGE KDM WITH THIS HORRIBLE LOGIN MANAGER ??????

2003-01-31 Thread Jason Straight
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 31 January 2003 08:13 pm, Shift wrote: Hi all, I just upgrade my Mandrake and when I restart my X session my kdm has been replaced by an HORRIBLE login manager. Can you explain me why Mandrake has patch the original kdm to changed it in

Re: [Cooker] WHY HAVE YOU CHANGE KDM WITH THIS HORRIBLE LOGINMANAGER ??????

2003-01-31 Thread Lonnie Borntreger
On Fri, 2003-01-31 at 19:54, Shift wrote: Le Samedi 1 Février 2003 02:37, Lonnie Borntreger a écrit : KDM branding can be accomplished with a simple kdmrc change to use a Mandrake specific background image along with the Mandrake star logo. No change needs to be made to KDM itself.

Re: [Cooker] WHY HAVE YOU CHANGE KDM WITH THIS HORRIBLE LOGIN MANAGER ??????

2003-01-31 Thread Damian Gatabria
On Saturday 01 February 2003 01:31, Laurent Culioli wrote: Le jeu 30/01/2003 à 02:29, orville a écrit : I digress. After reading laurent's post I decided to log off and see what all the hubbub is about. THAT is definitely not KDE's new login manager. SHIT that thing is ugly. Mandrake

Re: [Cooker] WHY HAVE YOU CHANGE KDM WITH THIS HORRIBLE LOGINMANAGER ??????

2003-01-31 Thread Lonnie Borntreger
On Fri, 2003-01-31 at 19:44, Jason Straight wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 31 January 2003 08:37 pm, Lonnie Borntreger wrote: KDM branding can be accomplished with a simple kdmrc change to use a Mandrake specific background image along with the Mandrake

Re: [Cooker] WHY HAVE YOU CHANGE KDM WITH THIS HORRIBLE LOGIN MANAGER ??????

2003-01-31 Thread Wesley J Landaker
On Wednesday 29 January 2003 6:29 pm, orville wrote: I digress. After reading laurent's post I decided to log off and see what all the hubbub is about. THAT is definitely not KDE's new login Another two big problems with this monster: 1) No more familiar keyboard only typing:

Re: [Cooker] WHY HAVE YOU CHANGE KDM WITH THIS HORRIBLE LOGIN MANAGER ??????

2003-01-31 Thread Shift
Le Samedi 1 Février 2003 02:13, Shift a écrit : Hi all, I just upgrade my Mandrake and when I restart my X session my kdm has been replaced by an HORRIBLE login manager. Can you explain me why Mandrake has patch the original kdm to changed it in this fucking DM that I hate ? Do you want to

[Cooker] why does DrakBackup need X connection?

2003-01-15 Thread Ernest Beinrohr
drakbackup wont run without functional X DISPLAY. Why is that? It is a console app afterall. -- Ernest Beinrohr, OERNii eAdmin @ AxonPro.sk, http://www.AxonPro.sk +421-2-62410360, +421-903-482603== NOVE TELEFONNE CISLO HomePage: http://www.oernii.sk

Re: [Cooker] why does DrakBackup need X connection?

2003-01-15 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah
Ernest Beinrohr [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: drakbackup wont run without functional X DISPLAY. Why is that? It is a console app afterall. why don't you use rsync instead in that case ?

Re: [Cooker] why does DrakBackup need X connection?

2003-01-15 Thread Stew Benedict
On Wed, 15 Jan 2003, Ernest Beinrohr wrote: drakbackup wont run without functional X DISPLAY. Why is that? It is a console app afterall. Actually it's both. It used to run from console, but must have gotten broken in the move to gtk2. I'll have a look. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft

[Cooker] why not proftpd 1.2.7 in cooker (=1.2.5)?

2003-01-10 Thread Udo Rader
hi, after upgrading some of our RH based servers from proftpd 1.2.5 to 1.2.7 I noticed that cooker still has proftpd-1.2.5-3mdk Is there a special reason for this, as 1.2.5 has some security issues? udo

[Cooker] why can't I digestify this list?

2003-01-06 Thread Dean S. Messing
I just sent the magic command SET cooker DIGEST to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The reply was that cooker does not allow digestification. Why in the world not? Dean

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