[CTRL] Fwd: FW: Murray: Gold: Schiffman: Spiers: aspartame toxicity 2.18.00

2000-06-23 Thread Kris Millegan
-- From: Rich Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: alt.health,alt.health.diabetes,alt.support.depression Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 19:59:37 -0600 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], Alan Raetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: M

Re: [CTRL] Elian could return to Cuba in 5 days

2000-06-23 Thread William Shannon
In a message dated 6/23/00 9:19:14 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Elian could return to Cuba in 5 days >> He should've been there a long time ago...It's about time!!! Bill. http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & i

[CTRL] Gore's April 18 testimony (Excerpts)

2000-06-23 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER
From: http://www.stlnet.com/postnet/news/wires.nsf/National/ Jun. 23, 2000 | 7:15 p.m. Excerpts from Vice President Al Gore's April 18 testimony to the Justice Department's Campaign Finance Task Force released Friday. Gore was being questioned about a 1996 fund-raising event at a Buddhist templ

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [RMNEWS] Clinton Prepares For A National Emergency With Russian Federation

2000-06-23 Thread Aleisha Saba
Not sure I understand all this hokey pokey, but the term "privatization" always leads to some disputes and wonder? This privataization like the new prison set up means PROFIT.so cui bono? Here is item which came out few years back and it did not look good then. A Saba SEPTEMBER 1995 · V

[CTRL] The Coming Revolution in Science

2000-06-23 Thread David Sutherland
The Coming Revolution in Science Dr. Ray Bohlin The Design Inference True scientific revolutions that impact more than a single discipline rarely occur more than once a century. Newton's Principia, published in th

[CTRL] FORGERY MILL: Book of Jasher

2000-06-23 Thread David Sutherland
The Book of Jasher By John Baskette Copyright 1994 by John Baskette, AIA Research Associate. I am seeking information on any "book of Jashers" floating about. a friend says he has one, and though i have not seen it, i am assuming it probably a strecth of someones imagination. in the bible there

[CTRL] Fwd: [RMNEWS] Clinton Prepares For A National Emergency With Russian Federation

2000-06-23 Thread Kris Millegan
>From Rayelan -- Read the following very carefully, at first it appears to say one thing -- but then you realize it says something else -- then ask yourself -- Who is Clinton protecting? The American People, President Putin -- or himself? ### >From the Rumor Mill News Agent's Forum Clinton

[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] goldman-sachs and gore, hanging with the chinese?

2000-06-23 Thread Kris Millegan
Gore chairman met with spies http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_smith_news/2623_xnsof_gore_chair.sh tml CHINAGATE Gore chairman met with spies Commerce Secretary Daley had confab with Beijing military 'front' company By Charles Smith C 2000 WorldNetDaily.com Newly released documents

Re: [CTRL] Talmud Exposed/Lost Books of the Bible

2000-06-23 Thread Kris Millegan
In a message dated 6/23/00 7:19:18 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >The letters from Pontius Pilate and Herod 'seemed' to be OK They are false. Om k http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandi

Re: [CTRL] Aleisha's Rants, Illuminiati, Talmud, Marx, Jesuit trained Clinton ... et al

2000-06-23 Thread Aleisha Saba
So Mr. Suthrland that day I picked up a 1954 ediion of a Gideon Bible and noted the daily bible reading calendar/code, wih an open mind I got the message.a secret society, let us say a Board of Directors or a high tribunal, was calling for well not murders, for they believes the term is execut

[CTRL] [endsecrecy] Delta Force Took Part In Waco

2000-06-23 Thread lloyd
.. >From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: From: Remy C. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: endsecrecy list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [endsecrecy] Delta Force Took Part In Waco Date: Friday, June 16, 2000 12:37 AM From: htt

[CTRL] Aleisha's Rants, Illuminiati, Talmud, Marx, Jesuit trained Clinton ... et al

2000-06-23 Thread David Sutherland
Aleisha - You KNOW ALL THIS stuff below - REALLY! (ggg) & you wrote: "Screw them all...get that bible and find out who really wrote it and whyeven Marx knew it was sheer opium and mind control" Marx in fact wrote that "religion" not the 'bible', was the "opiate" not the 'opium', of th

[CTRL] Fwd: Book of Jasher

2000-06-23 Thread Aleisha Saba
So Nicky and anyone interested - long ago I ran across this story on this book, and had it but never read it as I was getting side-tracked. Still think when the Lord Gave the Word and Great Was the Company that Published itthis I think is from 68th PsalmGod had a Publisher? Hey today CIA

[CTRL] Apocalyptic Literature - Lost Books - Adam and Eve

2000-06-23 Thread Aleisha Saba
A. Saba Dare To Call It Conspiracy http://www.piney.com/ApocalypticIndex.html

[CTRL] Elian could return to Cuba in 5 days

2000-06-23 Thread Shane A. Saylor, Eccentric Bard
Elian could return to Cuba in 5 days Relatives to file Supreme Court appeal June 23, 2000 Web posted at: 8:42 p.m. EDT (0042 GMT) >From staff and wire reports ATLANTA (CNN) -- An appeals court decision Friday means Elian Gonzalez could return to his native Cuba as early as next Wednesday. "All

Re: [CTRL] Talmud Exposed/Lost Books of the Bible

2000-06-23 Thread Nicky Molloy
Each of the chapters of the Lost Books of the Bible was written by different people. The letters from Pontius Pilate and Herod 'seemed' to be OK but I definately didn't believe for one second the chapter about Jesus as a child. Can't throw the baby out with the bathwater. I had one called The Boo

Re: [CTRL] Talmud Exposed

2000-06-23 Thread Aleisha Saba
Reference Lizzie Borden - 20 whacks with an axe and from what I read I would not have blamed here. One recent TV movie hinted Lizzie's sister did it. Such a brutal crime for two sweet ladies hard to believe. So Lizzie lived in Falls River, Massechusetts - my one brother in law was born and liv

Re: [CTRL] Talmud Exposed/Lost Books of the Bible

2000-06-23 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "Samantha L." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>a book called The Lost Books of the Bible >> >> That book is a known fake. >> Do not believe everything you read. > > Is it really? I recently bought it myself and read through some parts, ie, > that Jesus used his "powers" to harm other children who

Re: [CTRL] Talmud Exposed

2000-06-23 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "Aleisha Saba" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > There used to be a song The Camels (or was it Campbells) Are Coming - my > Uncle who was high Mason had this beep stuff put on his Chryslerfor > he loved to hear The Camels Are Coming.. It is "Campbells", not "Camels"...it is a ditty about a Scot

Re: [CTRL] Talmud Exposed

2000-06-23 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "tenebroust" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Thank you June for clearly illustrating this distinction. >Roam rulers are to blame, and the silliness is that anyone >would think it was the Jews. And since crucifixion was the reserved punishment for high crimes and misdemeanors against the Roman state, R

[CTRL] Fwd: VANGUARD: Veepstakes; or, How to Blow an Election if You're Not Really Careful

2000-06-23 Thread Kris Millegan
ALSO AT THE VANGUARD (http://www.theVanguard.org): 1. Vanguard PAC Announces "Arkansans Against Hillary! (AAGH!)". 2. Latest Analysis of Gore's Social Security Plan. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

Re: [CTRL] Talmud Exposed

2000-06-23 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "Nicky Molloy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > What the problem is (possibly) : it could be that these people can't grasp > significent differences between the character of one person from another and > that they have not studied psychology. Everyone is completely different > from everyone else. Ah,

[CTRL] Cellphone Hysteria...And A Leader In It's Movement

2000-06-23 Thread William Shannon
Friday, June 23, 2000 Cellphone hysteric Researcher George Carlo failed to come up with any evidence cellphones were dangerous. But some health scares never die Steven J. Milloy National Post George Carlo spent US$25-million and the better part of the 1990s researching the potential hazards of

[CTRL] Agent says vehicle he occupied at Waco probably contained exploding rounds

2000-06-23 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER
Posted: Friday, June 23, 2000 | 11:48 a.m. Agent says vehicle he occupied at Waco probably contained exploding rounds By Terry Ganey Of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch WACO, Texas – An FBI agent who fired tear gas at the Branch Davidian complex in 1993 testified Friday that his armored vehicle wa

[CTRL] NYP: M'SOFT: WILL DEMS PAY AT THE POLLS?

2000-06-23 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER
New York Post-June 23, 2000 M'SOFT: WILL DEMS PAY AT THE POLLS? By FLOYD FLAKE WHETHER or not it succeeds in splitting up Microsoft, the Justice Department's Antitrust Division may have effectively split off a significant piece of the coalition needed to elect Democrats this November. The deci

[CTRL] As gasoline prices skyrocket, so does value of Gore's oil stock

2000-06-23 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER
From: http://www.washtimes.com/national/default-2000623223921.htm THE WASHINGTON TIMES June 23, 2000 As gasoline prices skyrocket, so does value of Gore's oil stock By Bill Sammon Vice President Al Gore, who is trying to link George W. Bush to soaring gasoline prices by emphasizing the T

[CTRL] Detective Agency Obtained Documents

2000-06-23 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER
June 23, 2000 Wall Street Journal Tech Center Detective Agency Obtained Documents On Microsoft at Two Additional Groups By TED BRIDIS and GLENN R. SIMPSON Staff Reporters THE WALL STREET JOURNAL WASHINGTON -- Investigative Group International Inc., the detective agency linked to attempts to bu

[CTRL] FBI official: Davidians could have been coaxed out of compound

2000-06-23 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER
FBI official: Davidians could have been coaxed out of compound 06/22/2000 By Lee Hancock The Dallas Morning News © 2000, The Dallas Morning News WACO – FBI tactical commander Richard Rogers told investigators soon after the 1993 Branch Davidian siege that negotiators could have coaxed sect mem

Re: [CTRL] Lazio: SEC has launched informal probe of my stock trades

2000-06-23 Thread William Shannon
In a message dated 6/23/00 7:19:45 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << The congressman from Long Island is running for the Senate in New York against Hillary Rodham Clinton. Lazio has denied any wrongdoing in connection with his stock dealings. >> Then he has nothing to fea

[CTRL] NY Conservative Chairman Calls for Congressional Investigation of SEC Leak

2000-06-23 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER
U.S. Newswire June 22, 2000, Thursday 12:00 AM, Eastern Time SECTION: NATIONAL DESK, POLITICAL REPORTER NY Conservative Chairman Calls for Congressional Investigation of SEC Leak DATELINE: FORT HAMILTON STATION, N.Y. The following was released today by the New York State Conservative Party:

[CTRL] Lazio: SEC has launched informal probe of my stock trades

2000-06-23 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER
The Associated Press State & Local Wire June 22, 2000, Thursday, BC cycle 8:39 PM Eastern Time HEADLINE: Lazio: SEC has launched informal probe of my stock trades BYLINE: By MARC HUMBERT, AP Political Writer DATELINE: ALBANY, N.Y. Blasting the Clinton administration, U.S. Senate candidate Ri

[CTRL] Sending in tanks beyond the plan, senior FBI official testifies

2000-06-23 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER
Sending in tanks beyond the plan, senior FBI official testifies 06/22/2000 By Lee Hancock and Brenda Rodriguez The Dallas Morning News WACO – FBI commanders went beyond a Washington-approved plan for tear gassing the Branch Davidian compound when they ordered tanks to drive deep into the buildi

[CTRL] NYT: Prosecutor Recommends Special Counsel to Investigate Gore

2000-06-23 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER
NY Times June 22, 2000 Prosecutor Recommends Special Counsel to Investigate Gore By DON VAN NATTA Jr. and DAVID JOHNSTON ASHINGTON, -- The head of the Justice Department's campaign finance unit has recommended that Attorney General Janet Reno appoint a special counsel to investigate Vice Pre

[CTRL] JW: RAY'S TRAVELGATE REASONING IS FLAWED

2000-06-23 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER
Judicial Watch FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Contact: Richard Tomkins June 22, 2000 (202) 646-5172 RAY’S TRAVELGATE REASONING IS FLAWED Ray Had Probable Cause To Indict Hillary Clinton Former Clinton Chief of Staff Thomas McLarty Testimony Laid Travel Office Outrage at Hillary Clinton’s Feet (Washing

[CTRL] Independent Counsel Robert W. Ray issued the following statement today

2000-06-23 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER
Office of the Independent Counsel Thursday, June 22, 2000 Independent Counsel Robert W. Ray issued the following statement today: The Office of the Independent Counsel ("OIC") has concluded an investigation commonly known as the Travel Office matter. This matter concerned allegations that Dav

[CTRL] Fw: CIA, Agca and the "Bulgarian Trace"

2000-06-23 Thread Mrs. Jela Jovanovic, Secretary General
-Original Message- From: Blagovesta Doncheva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Mrs. Jela Jovanovic Secretary General <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 9:27 AM Subject: CIA, Agca and the "Bulgarian Trace" > >"Monitor", June 15, 2000 > >The Plot Against Bulgaria >(Part I) > >The attem

[CTRL] Gore To Be Probed for Fund Raising

2000-06-23 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER
[The headline is a little misleading, although it does give one hope. Janet Reno could quash the whole thing. Any betting people out there who think she will actually go along with this recommendation? --MS] Gore To Be Probed for Fund Raising The Associated Press Thursday, June 22, 2000; 3:39

[CTRL] NATO Created Virus Unleashed

2000-06-23 Thread William Shannon
June 18 2000 BRITAIN Nato creates computer virus that reveals its secrets Adam Nathan BUNGLING Nato scientists have created a computer virus "by mistake", causing military secrets to find their way onto the internet. The virus, called Anti-Smyser 1, was created by scientists at Nato's Kfor pea

[CTRL] OT: Salon.com Typifies Demise of `Content' IPOs

2000-06-23 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER
[This is a fascinating and extremely insightful look at the financial disaster the Dotcoms really are. --MS] Also, another good article is the Dotcom Graveyard at: http://www.upside.com/Ebiz/392ec4c10.html Salon.com Typifies Demise of `Content' IPOs: By Christopher Byron Weston, Connecticu

[CTRL] STATEMENT OF BILLY DALE CONCERNING TRAVELGATE

2000-06-23 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER
STATEMENT OF BILLY DALE CONCERNING TRAVELGATE (Washington, DC) Today, Billy Dale, Judicial Watch client and former head of The White House Travel Office, issued the following statement concerning the decision of Independent Counsel Robert Ray to close his Travelgate investigation without prosecu

[CTRL] U.S. government admits Net privacy breach

2000-06-23 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER
From: http://technews.netscape.com/news/0-1005-200-2123118.html?tag=st.ne.1005.thed.ni U.S. government admits Net privacy breach By Reuters Special to CNET News.com June 21, 2000, 3:45 p.m. PT WASHINGTON--The White House today acknowledged that its own anti-drug office's Web site may have been

[CTRL] Buddhist temple to pay penalties in Gore case

2000-06-23 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER
Buddhist temple to pay penalties in Gore case By Larry B. Stammer LOS ANGELES TIMES A Buddhist temple involved in a controversial political fund-raiser four years ago featuring Vice President Gore has agreed to pay federal tax penalties as a result of an IRS investigation. The Hsi Lai Temple o

[CTRL] "527" Committees

2000-06-23 Thread William Shannon
SADDAM HUSSEIN, SICILIAN MAFIA: CAMPAIGN DONORS? '527s' Give them a way into American election campaigns. Larry Makinson is executive director of the Center for Responsive Politics, a non-partisan, non-profit campaign finance watchdog group based in Washington, D.C. Editor's Note: In the face of

[CTRL] THE LOS ALAMOS STORY IS BURNING

2000-06-23 Thread William Shannon
Vol. 6, No. 1360 - The American Reporter - June 23, 2000 Media Beat: THE LOS ALAMOS STORY IS BURNING by Norman Solomon American Reporter Correspondent Washington, D.C. WASHINGTON -- It's media spin in overdrive: Major security breaches have jeopardized the vital work going on at the Los Alamos

[CTRL] Skeptic News - Friday #4

2000-06-23 Thread Ric Carter
in ancient Egypt. "Now we can say that pyramid- shaped tombs were not a privilege reserved to kings and nobility. Ordinary people were also allowed to use the pyramid design to construct their own tombs." http://www.discovery.com/news/briefs/2623/hi_pyramids.html @ During th

Re: [CTRL] Talmud Exposed

2000-06-23 Thread Aleisha Saba
My brother in law, old military family dating back over 200 years, had great-grandfather who was Skull and Bones - much maligned on this list are these fellows. On my mother's side we had a fellow up there too - and often in old days anyway, when someone like my brother in law married, the eniti

[CTRL] Sons of the Middle Border

2000-06-23 Thread Alamaine
>From NEWSMAX.COM http://www.newsmax.com/commentmax/articles/Diane_Alden.shtml }}>Begin CommentMax Sons of the Middle Border: Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton Diane Alden June 20, 2000 I don't usually watch PBS, but it was showing an excellent biography on Ronald Reagan. This one included observat

[CTRL] Britland vs Kosovariacs

2000-06-23 Thread Alamaine
From http://www.telegraph.co.uk/et?ac=002415089200781&rtmo=gwVggrSu&atmo=tttd&pg= /et/00/6/23/nkos23.html Via NEWSMAX.COM/UK }}>Begin ISSUE 1855 Friday 23 June 2000 Britain is ready to force out Kosovars By Sandra Laville Deadline that everybody is dreading The family that wants to stay .

[CTRL] Who Hates America?

2000-06-23 Thread Alamaine
From http://www.antiwar.com/justin/pf/p-j062300.html }}>Begin Behind the Headlines by Justin Raimondo Antiwar.com June 23, 2000 WHO HATES AMERICA? "Guess who hates America?" asks the headline. Answer: American conservatives, because they are beginning to question the wisdom of our overseas emp

Re: [CTRL] Talmud Exposed/Lost Books of the Bible

2000-06-23 Thread Yardbird
On Fri, 23 Jun 2000, Samantha L. wrote: > Is it really? I recently bought it myself and read through some parts, ie, > that Jesus used his "powers" to harm other children who annoyed him when he > was very young - he even killed one or two. One chapter says he formed birds > from clay then ma

Re: [CTRL] Talmud Exposed

2000-06-23 Thread Yardbird
> Now Judges in the bible is a horrible book but then aren't they all in > the Old Testment I disagree, the Song of Solomon is among the most beautiful literary passages in history and the opening (perhaps not all) of Genesis is a magnificent intro with Psalms picking up the slack in an otherwise

Re: [CTRL] The Real Conspiracy was Talmud Exposed

2000-06-23 Thread Tenorlove
--- "Stopforth, Jamie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I disagree. "Eternity:Smoking or Non?" Would be the bigger issue > here. > This life is but a vapor. And a noxious one at that, sometimes. ROTFLMAO!!! __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free

[CTRL] Political assassination of american Peter McWilliams

2000-06-23 Thread DIG alfred webre
>From restore-L: Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 09:16:43 -0400 From: Pat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Restore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Multiple recipients of, Friends" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Political Assassination of american Peter McWilliams Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have just sent this lett

Re: [CTRL] Talmud Exposed

2000-06-23 Thread Robert F. Tatman
John, you may be the first person in this whole messy thread to actually RESEARCH the Talmud. I hope everyone will read your post very carefully. The Talmud is no more a master plan for world conquest than is the New Testament. It is a collection of very diverse commentaries by a large number of r

Re: [CTRL] Talmud Exposed

2000-06-23 Thread Samantha L.
In a message dated 6/23/00 11:06:04 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > The Conspiracy is the one that convinces people to believe rather than to > question. It enables the Conspirators to herd us like sheep. If "the Lord > is my Shepard," what's that make me? Metaphor, ness

Re: [CTRL] OEN 6/23/00/Tauzin

2000-06-23 Thread Samantha L.
In a message dated 6/23/00 9:33:15 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > "I am deeply troubled by the breadth, scope, and advanced state of this > undertaking. A project with links and tracking to proprietary websites and > businesses has vast privacy implications with which Con

Re: [CTRL] Talmud Exposed/Lost Books of the Bible

2000-06-23 Thread Samantha L.
In a message dated 6/23/00 9:27:14 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >a book called The Lost Books of the Bible > That book is a known fake. > Do not believe everything you read. Is it really? I recently bought it myself and read through some parts, ie, that Jesus used

[CTRL] Carol Hopkins' Insidious "Justice Committee"

2000-06-23 Thread lloyd
.. >From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: From: Alex Constantine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Lloyd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Carol Hopkins' Insidious "Justice Committee" Date: Sunday, June 11, 2000 11:53 PM ---

Re: [CTRL] Talmud Exposed

2000-06-23 Thread Aleisha Saba
There used to be a song The Camels (or was it Campbells) Are Coming - my Uncle who was high Mason had this beep stuff put on his Chryslerfor he loved to hear The Camels Are Coming.. Now Judges in the bible is a horrible book but then aren't they all in the Old Testment - murder of the son

Re: [CTRL] Talmud Exposed

2000-06-23 Thread J Taylor
A personal comment. Having seen all the flurry about the Talmud I decided to go and try and read (some of) it myself. I can not claim to be a scholar of the Talmud...but I have a couple of comments. Firstly trying to make sense of the Talmud is like trying to understand the common theme of t

[CTRL] Macedonia Destabilization Threat Causes Concern

2000-06-23 Thread Mrs. Jela Jovanovic, Secretary General
=== The Committee for National Solidarity Tolstojeva 34, 11000 Belgrade, YU > http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewGlobal.asp?Page=\Global\archive\GLO2621d.html > >>> > Macedonia Destabilization Threat Causes Concern > By Louis Economopoulos > CNS Correspondent > 21 June, 2000

[CTRL] Can Clinton Keep the Balkans from Exploding Long Enough to Get Gore Elected?

2000-06-23 Thread Mrs. Jela Jovanovic, Secretary General
=== The Committee for National Solidarity Tolstojeva 34, 11000 Belgrade, YU Can Clinton Keep the Balkans from Exploding Long Enough to Get Gore Elected? KFOR NEVER Seems to Find Those who Kill and Maim Serbs By: Mary Mostert, Analyst, Original Sources (www.originalsources

Re: [CTRL] Talmud Exposed

2000-06-23 Thread Aleisha Saba
What you mean a pig ate my frog and nobody informed me? Anyway, thanks for response to my letter - when you believe in something it makes it true I guess - maybe wishful thinking. If I had known my froggie had died I would have sent flowers; I hope you are wrong and Kermit found a save haven, on

Re: [CTRL] Talmud Exposed

2000-06-23 Thread Aleisha Saba
Thank you Jamison - forgot my history there - but then history is written by those who claim the spoils. I thought it was funny though about 10 years ago, the Catholic Church and Pope still will not admit Galileo was right... Now in the bible the Sun or Son walks in the circuit of the heaven

Re: [CTRL] The CIA JFK UFOs & James Jesus Angleton

2000-06-23 Thread tenebroust
This is a good article in that it provides some background on Angleton who is one of the most enigmatic characters ever in the intelligence community. On Fri, 23 June 2000, Kris Millegan wrote: > > from: > http://www.nexusmagazine.com//angleton.html > Click Here: http://www.nexusmagazine.com/

Re: [CTRL] Talmud Exposed

2000-06-23 Thread tenebroust
Ver well reasoned and represented Nessie. Thanks, and might I say I concur. I would never attack a person, but will attack the information they use to support their arguments. Sometimes people cannot seperate their SELF from the information they use to support their beliefs and thus they fee

Re: [CTRL] The Real Conspiracy was Talmud Exposed

2000-06-23 Thread Stopforth, Jamie
I disagree. "Eternity:Smoking or Non?" Would be the bigger issue here. This life is but a vapor. But we're not here to discuss that, so we can move on now. Jamie > The Conspiracy in all this is the one that tries to prove the Bible > "wrong"/incorrect. I disagree. The real conspiracy is t

[CTRL] Skeptic News - Friday #3

2000-06-23 Thread Ric Carter
-- Hindu mystic Baba Singh Videsh was buried alive in 1980 & remained there until his disciples dug him up three weeks ago -- to find that he had survived his amazing underground stint! http://www.weeklyworldnews.com/stories/2019.html # US Bugged By Attacks on Christians. The US Ambassador t

Re: [CTRL] Talmud Exposed

2000-06-23 Thread tenebroust
Thank you June for clearly illustrating this distinction. Roam rulers are to blame, and the silliness is that anyone would think it was the Jews. There is an excellent article in Fortean Times about the persistence of myth in history (regarding the "Jews killed Christ" idea, and the Protocols

Re: [CTRL] Talmud Exposed

2000-06-23 Thread Yardbird
Galileo was not imprisoned because he stated the Earth revolved around the sun but because he originally agreed to place then, just before printing, removed a preface that asserted the Vatican's contrary, Ptolemaic position. Galileo and Pope Urban VIII were both conceited, arrogant megalomaniacs w

Re: [CTRL] Talmud Exposed

2000-06-23 Thread Stopforth, Jamie
"Okay J - the Pope says the Sun goes around the earth and he is infallible?" He's infallible, says who? Him? I don't subscribe to the Catholic belief system, so let's move on. "How do we know the earth is flat? Because the bible says the earth has "four corners", now that sure sounds like its

Re: [CTRL] Talmud Exposed

2000-06-23 Thread tenebroust
Your response illustrates my contention exactly. The Roman rulers of Palestine had the final say in all executions, it is a historic fact. The Jews could not condemn anyone, it had to be the Roman legal system that did it, so Pilate could not wash his hands. There is no historical evidence o

Re: [CTRL] Talmud Exposed

2000-06-23 Thread Tenorlove
--- Aleisha Saba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Okay J - the Pope says the Sun goes around the earth and he is > infallible? > > The Pope sez Galileo was wrong and that guy was sent to slammer, for > this idiot believed the Earth went about the Sun. Point of clarification: The doctrine of papal inf

Re: [CTRL] Talmud Exposed

2000-06-23 Thread Stopforth, Jamie
>Indeed you do have a right to believe. That doesn't make it the smart >thing to do. Believing and knowing are two totally different things. >Believe is what you do when you DON'T know. The smart thing to do when you >don't know is to find out for yourself. "That doesn't make it the smart thing t

Re: [CTRL] Talmud Exposed

2000-06-23 Thread Franklin Wayne Poley
On Fri, 23 Jun 2000, tenebroust wrote: > On Thu, 22 June 2000, Nicky Molloy wrote: > > > > > Tenebrous you spend nearly every day attacking people's beliefs and lately > > you have attacked me non stop, no matter what I post. You are generalising > > saying the 'Catholic Church' did this or that.

Re: [CTRL] Talmud Exposed

2000-06-23 Thread tenebroust
On Thu, 22 June 2000, Nicky Molloy wrote: > > Tenebrous you spend nearly every day attacking people's beliefs and lately > you have attacked me non stop, no matter what I post. You are generalising > saying the 'Catholic Church' did this or that. What you mean is individuals > in the Catholic Chu

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Jewish Denial of Holocaust Survivor's Story

2000-06-23 Thread Franklin Wayne Poley
Now is that nice...? And I was just trying to be helpful and constructive so that you might make the bias/prejudice of this list a little more "sophisticated". But you took the bait, didn't you? FWP On Fri, 23 Jun 2000, Kris Millegan wrote: > FWP, you might just start using your head for more th

[CTRL] The Real Conspiracy was Talmud Exposed

2000-06-23 Thread Tenorlove
--- "Stopforth, Jamie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The Conspiracy in all this is the one that tries to prove the Bible > "wrong"/incorrect. I disagree. The real conspiracy is to first get us arguing about this point in order to keep us distracted from the second part of the real conspiracy, whi

Re: [CTRL] [LIFE-GAZETTE] Re: [Religionornotnow] Re: [demand] Oath of Office (fwd)

2000-06-23 Thread Franklin Wayne Poley
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 09:49:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Franklin Wayne Poley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIFE-GAZETTE] Re: [Religionornotnow] Re: [demand] Oath of Office John:

Re: [CTRL] Talmud Exposed

2000-06-23 Thread tenebroust
On Thu, 22 June 2000, Franklin Wayne Poley wrote: > Do you agree that the genocide in the USSR which began in 1917 under a > Jewish-dominated Government accompanied by the abortion holocaust in that > region is also fact? > FWP > > I have no problem with the idea of massive killings in the Russi

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Jewish Denial of Holocaust Survivor's Story

2000-06-23 Thread Kris Millegan
FWP, you might just start using your head for more than a hatrack and your foot as more than a tongue depressor. On fowarded posts there is never "the usual footer" . . . just a trigger for your psychoses to overflow? MHO Om K - In a message dated 6/23/00 9:54:02 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Re: [CTRL] why? Uss Liberty.

2000-06-23 Thread Yardbird
: This is in regard to a letter that was sent to Mr.Warner-Chairman of the : Senate Armed Services Committee- asking 15 questions regarding the attack on : the USS Liberty by the zionist enclave in Palestine. : Mr. Warner, I am writing to you in your capacity as Chairman of the Senate : Armed Serv

Re: [CTRL] Zionist Massacres in 1948: New Evidence

2000-06-23 Thread Yardbird
: Zionist Massacres in 1948: : New Evidence : ZIONIST MASSACRES IN 1948: New evidence : The following article (3160 words!) was published in : the Hebrew daily Ha'ir on 6 May 1992. It contains : n

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Jewish Denial of Holocaust Survivor's Story

2000-06-23 Thread Franklin Wayne Poley
Is it just coincidence that the usual footer was left off this post? Maybe you should change it to : "Holocaust denial VERBOTEN unless done so by Jews/Semites; although of course other holocausts/genocides can be denied; unless it is a leap year, babble, babble" Then it will all be clear. FWP

[CTRL] The CIA JFK UFOs & James Jesus Angleton

2000-06-23 Thread Kris Millegan
from: http://www.nexusmagazine.com//angleton.html Click Here: http://www.nexusmagazine.com//angleton.html">CIA JFK UFOs & James Jesus Angleton - The CIA, UFOs, MJ-12, JFK & James Jesus Angleton As the CIA's Counterintelligence Chief, James Jesus Angleton had access to the Agency's most closel

Re: [CTRL] Israel's Bio Weapons - MER FlashBack (fwd)

2000-06-23 Thread Aleisha Saba
After reading this but please not Ucker's reply in response to this monster Israel - I am wondering if the stories about the black Death and legends about jews poisoning water (remember recent cyanide in Blue Danube) bu t I wonde if these stories are not true. Then I remember the USS Liberty whe

[CTRL] Skeptic News - Friday #2

2000-06-23 Thread Ric Carter
efault # Giant Sloth Reborn at Yellowstone -- first, reconstruction -- next, cloning? http://www.discovery.com/news/briefs/2623/fs_sloth.html # Demos push genetic anti-discrimination bill - "Set my chromosomes free!" Groovy: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2567522379-4fa

Re: [CTRL] Sham Zionist State Money Laundering Center

2000-06-23 Thread Nurev Ind Research
Yardbird wrote: > > : Yet another piece of evidence that what Israel does has no connection > : to Judaism or Jewish values... A sham idol heresy. > > : From: > : http://www.independent.co.uk/news/World/Europe/2000-06/haven230600.shtml > > : How unholy business thrives in the Holy > : Land > >

Re: [CTRL] Sham Zionist State Money Laundering Center

2000-06-23 Thread Nurev Ind Research
Yardbird wrote: > > : Yet another piece of evidence that what Israel does has no connection > : to Judaism or Jewish values... A sham idol heresy. But it does have to do with corrupt elites and the fact that the State has become totally capitalist and no longer a mixed economy. Making Unrest

[CTRL] [Fwd: Nader and Georgia Ballot Access -- Help Now!]

2000-06-23 Thread Nurev Ind Research
Original Message Subject: Nader and Georgia Ballot Access -- Help Now! Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 00:08:36 -0500 (CDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: Deja.com - Before you buy. To: undisclosed-recipients:; Georgia Green Party is facing a huge hurdle to get Ralph Nader on the

[CTRL] TAP, Robert Kuttner and Ralph Nader

2000-06-23 Thread Nurev Ind Research
Article URL: http://americanprospect.com/archives/V11-15/kuttner-r-conversation.html RALPH NADER: A Conversation Written by: Robert Kuttner Robert Kuttner: I am sympathetic to much of your diagnosis of the dependence of both parties on corporations. But I am skep

Re: [CTRL] Talmud Exposed

2000-06-23 Thread Nurev Ind Research
Nicky Molloy wrote: > > You deserve an Oscar for that eagle. > This exactly what I am saying. People are blaming the Jews for stuff they > are not doing or haven't done. Noone is standing up for them because they > are ignorant as to what is the real truth. A few calling themselves "Jews" > who ha

[CTRL] Israel's Patronizing Ways (fwd)

2000-06-23 Thread Yardbird
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 13:55:26 + From: MER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Israel's Patronizing Ways ___ __ / |/ / /___/ / /_ //M I D - E A S T R E A L I T I E S / /|

[CTRL] Israel's Bio Weapons - MER FlashBack (fwd)

2000-06-23 Thread Yardbird
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 09:44:01 + From: MER FlashBack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Israel's Bio Weapons - MER FlashBack ___ __ / |/ / /___/ / /_ //M I D - E A S T R

Re: [CTRL] Talmud Exposed

2000-06-23 Thread Aleisha Saba
Okay J - the Pope says the Sun goes around the earth and he is infallible? The Pope sez Galileo was wrong and that guy was sent to slammer, for this idiot believed the Earth went about the Sun. How do we know the earth is flat? Because the bible says the earth has "four corners", now that sure

Re: [CTRL] Talmud Exposed

2000-06-23 Thread nessie
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >And about your question, "how do you know?" > > >My Answer, I believe. Which I have a right to. Indeed you do have a right to believe. That doesn't make it the smart thing to do. Believing and knowing are two totally different things. Believe is what you do w

Re: [CTRL] Talmud Exposed

2000-06-23 Thread Stopforth, Jamie
> It also contains much falsehoods, political manipulations and downright >lies. >MHO >Om >K I'm glad you were smart enough to add that that was simply your "humble" opinion. People also had humble opinions that the Earth was at one point flat you know. J http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org

Re: [CTRL] Talmud Exposed

2000-06-23 Thread Stopforth, Jamie
Why didn't you pose this question to Kris? He gave his opinion on what he thought the Bible was, yet when I give mine in favor for the Bible you confront me... I knew it would happen. Thanks for proving me right. And about your question, "how do you know?" My Answer, I believe. Which I have a

[CTRL] Pentagon: China is preparing for high-tech war with US.

2000-06-23 Thread Stopforth, Jamie
http://www.washtimes.com/national/default-2000623222038.htm By Bill Gertz THE WASHINGTON TIMES <<...OLE_Obj...>> China is building up military forces in preparation for a possible conflict with the United States over Taiwan involving high-technology warfare, according to a Pentagon report obtain

[CTRL] Burton Wants Next Atty. General to Probe Clinton, Gore, Reno

2000-06-23 Thread lloyd
.. >From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: From: Lloyd Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Burton Wants Next Atty. General to Probe Clinton, Gore, Reno Date: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 6:10 AM From: Howard Rothenburg <[

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