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Caspian oil project forges ahead
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/2265670.stm
The pipeline is the first to bypass Russian territory
Construction work has officially been launched on
a multi-billion-do
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U.S. Slams German Minister for Bush-Hitler Comment
Last Updated: September 19, 2002 01:41 PM ET
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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Bush's spokesman on Thursday expressed
outrage that Germany's justice minister drew a link between Bush's saber-ratt
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Baghdad trade deals seen hindrance to US
By Anthony Shadid, Globe Staff, 9/19/2002
WASHINGTON - Iraq has dramatically broadened its business ties with Russia and Arab
countries over the past year, generating economic interests
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Declan
Not sure if the US figures are accurate, but this
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From: "Trei, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: NYT OpEd calls for censorship.
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 13:23:18 -0400
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/09/17/opi
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What kind of parents allow their children to be front lines against Israeli troops?
People who want to use the decency of their opponents against their opponents. If
they believed that all of their children would be shot down, they wouldn't put their
children in front of themselv
Title: Re: [CTRL] Saudis Pay out money
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But the money isn’t going to victims. It is going specifically to the families of people who kill innocent civilians, for no other reason than they killed themselves while murdering others.
That’s not what “victim” means to me. If the Saud
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Is this becoming the William Shannon website?
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In a message dated 9/19/02 8:55:26 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Easy to say when you're not on the receiving end, Bill. But I'll take
your suggestion as a verbal hug, and thanks for the support. My
next beer's for you.
I've been on the receiving end of
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In a message dated 9/19/02 8:49:35 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I refuse to say that strapping explosives to oneself and blowing up kids on a school bus or in a disco is the same as soldiers shooting at armed men who are shooting at them
What about murderin
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--- William Shannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Why not give it a rest...and take a dep breath?
Easy to say when you're not on the receiving end, Bill. But I'll take
your suggestion as a verbal hug, and thanks for the support. My
next beer's for you.
Tenorlove
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> Your "if" comment is strictly speculation based on what you believe would
happen.
> Your name calling is very much like the primitive response of the
pro-Palestinian
> mob at Concordia. And yes, civilized people do back off when confronted
with
> people who seem primitive and o
Title: Re: [CTRL] Saudis Pay out money
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Scroll back. Read my old posts.
I have never defended Sharon. I think the phrase I have used for him most often is “dangerous hateful pig”, but I can check if you really need a count. Because I think Israel has a right to exist, you someh
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http://www.parascope.com/articles/0997/whitepaper.htm
THE NEW WORLD ORDER
Between 1983-1986, the British-born conspiracy theorist Antony Sutton wrote a series of pamphlets about the Order of Skull & Bones. According to informed sources, Sutton was one of several historians who w
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http://www.parascope.com/articles/0997/whitepaper.htm
HENRY STIMSON: MASTER BONESMAN
According to a January 1991 article by the Washington syndicated columnists Rowland Evans and Robert Novak, when President George Bush was making his final decision to use military force to crus
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http://www.parascope.com/articles/0997/whitepaper.htm
George Bush, Skull & Bones and the New World Order
Paul Goldstein
Jeffrey Steinberg
George Bush, Skull & Bones and the New World Order
A New American View -- International Edition White Paper
Introduction
This special repor
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http://www.rense.com/general29/ritters.htm
Ritter Repeats His Message - Iraq
Poses No Threat To US
By David Pallister
The Guardian - London
9-19-2
'Even if Iraq managed to hide these weapons, what they are now hiding is harmless goo.' -- Scott Ritter
UN weapons inspectors
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http://www.themoscowtimes.com/stories/2002/09/16/007.html
Monday, Sep. 16, 2002. Page 8
Nuclear Succor for North Korea
By Matt Bivens
I
n his famous "axis of evil" speech, President George W. Bush said "North Korea is a regime arming with missiles and weapons of mass destruct
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http://www.observer.com/pages/frontpage4.asp
Holy or Unholy, Jews and Right in an Alliance
by
Philip Weiss
Right after 9/11, I made a bold prediction: that the small number of players who determine American policy in the Middle East would soon be joined by a broadly based peace
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http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/A/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1032275790489
Sep. 18, 2002
Experts agree Israel has most to gain from Saddam ouster
By MATTHEW GUTMAN
An American attack on Iraq would have sweeping regional implications for non-combatant Middle Ea
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http://www.counterpunch.org/
September 19, 2002
Bush Senior:
Hating Saddam, Selling Him Weapons
by Kurt Nimmo
In an interview with CNN's Paula Zahn, former president George Bush spoke recently of his "hatred" of Saddam Hussein. "I hate Saddam Hussein," said Bush."I don't hate
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http://www.etherzone.com/2002/nova092402.shtml
WARS AND RUMORS OF WARS
A BRAVE OLD WORLD
By: Novakeo
Many had hoped as humanity left the millennium into the dawning of the new that somehow things would be different in the world. The world had just finished the most lethal and b
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FYI
http://www.bankindex.com/read.asp?ID=1228
Neither ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN nor Fox -all
owned by families connected to the Rothschilds have reported this!
Bankers Sued for Slave Reparations
Despite all the media hype about reparations
for African-Americans, one major lawsuit
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http://www.tmsfeatures.com/tmsfeatures/subcategory.jsp?catid=1104&custid=67
MATTHEW MILLER
For release 9/18/02
WAR: KARL ROVE'S ULTIMATE WEDGE ISSUE
By Matthew Miller
Tribune Media Services
You can't understand today's Iraq debate without understanding Karl Rove's view
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http://www.jbs.org/reviewonline/020915_transcript.htm
No More UN Wars!
Hello and welcome to Review of the News Online. Iâm William Norman Grigg, senior editor of The New American magazine â an affiliated publication of The John Birch Society.
There is only a handful of inst
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In a message dated 9/19/02 7:14:57 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The perpetrators here are on both sides.
IF you believe that why do you insist on defending Sharon and his ilk and demonizing the Palestinians? You're about as "fair and balanced" as Fox News.
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http://www.bankindex.com/read.asp?ID=1228
Neither ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN nor Fox -all owned by families connected to the Rothschilds have reported this!
Bankers Sued for Slave Reparations
Despite all the media hype about reparations for African-Americans, one major lawsuit inv
Title: Re: [CTRL] Saudis Pay out money
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Actually Palestinian universities get lots of money from Israel. But why let facts get in the way of a good point, eh?
I will try not to stoop the personal level you feel is called for here, to try to stay with the facts. The perpetrators
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I'm not sure why you think I approve of that sort of behavior.
I think it is barbaric.
But in no way does it excuse paying families of murderers to encourage more
murder. Bringing up expulsions is a smokescreen, enabling you to ignore the
question I asked.
I don't know what Hitle
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In a message dated 9/19/02 12:46:17 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I'm sure Kris has grounds for a libel suit.
Why not give it a rest...and take a dep breath?
Bill.
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Mentality of a Gun Controller
by Ted Lang
The end always justifies the means, any means, including lying, fraud, suppressing the
facts and truth, misrepresentation, smoke and mirrors, anything to arrive at the
justified objective for the betterment of all Mankind.
In the cours
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What is a Real American?
By: John William Kurowski
What is a real American?
I am a real American, and am proud to say what I stand for:
I believe in the protection of others lives, liberty and property rights;
That my federal government has been established by a constitution t
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Abusive Priest Flees Island - Facing Immigration Charges, Brett Hurriedly Quits St. Maarten 9/19/02 By Eric Rich "Abusive priest Laurence F.X. Brett has left the Caribbean island where he lived secretively for nearly a decade, fleeing just days before local police descended on
Title: Re: [CTRL] Saudis Pay out money
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I was talking about the universities
...dummy the help the students are getting for their educationThat of
course if the Israelis dont go and reduce them into a pile of rubble like they
have everything else...I mean god forbid tha
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Communities live and die by the morality they encourage amongst themselves and
toward others. Palestinian terrorists have a very large support system in their
families, in the community and beyond. If this support system feels the ends justify
the means, then they know they wil
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> > Half of me says oh good someone is helping these people and half of me says it
> > is not a good idea to give money to the families of the suic
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on 9/19/02 3:43 PM, Mermaid at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Half of me says oh good someone is helping these people and half of me says it is not a good idea to give money to the families of the suicide bombers because it is al
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Sorry Charlie
The violence was at the anti- Netanyahu protest.
The protest against the Palestinian speaker was peaceful, and he was allowed
to speak.
Netanyahu , who is a dangerous rabid rightwing asshole, was not allowed to
speak.
If you don't let the Nazi's march in Skokie, y
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Interesting quote but what's the source?
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Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 10:47:35 -0700 (PDT)
From: Franklin Wayne Poley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: [LIFE-GAZETTE] Larouche says: E
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It's a good idea to read carefully about the real world and not just try to tie things
into one's preconceived notions.
The violent rioters were the pro-Palestinian mob, who were brought in and may not
have all been part of the university community. A search on the web indicated
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Not everything you see and hear is strictly
Kosher Could Hamas be connctd to Sharon.The Mermaid xx
After this article there is a little snippet from
What really Happened.com just click on it.
Unholy
A
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http://www.philly.com/mld/dailynews/4084323.htm
Posted on Mon, Sep. 16, 2002
Three-minute discrepancy in tape
Cockpit voice recording ends before Flight 93's official time of impact
By WILLIAM BUNCH
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
THE FINAL three minutes of hijacked United Flight 93 are stil
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Half of me says oh good someone is
helping these people and half of me says it is not a good idea to give
money to the families of the suicide bombers because it is almost saying its
okay to give your sons to the cause we will reimburse you for your loss with
money.
The Merma
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Just to let you know why I'm forwarding the abusive emails I'm getting
in private, to the list:
1. As I've learned from the work of Kris Millegan, Lloyd Miller and
Linda Minor, among many others on this list, sunshine is a
disinfectant.
2. I want an archive of the emails somewhe
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This article from NYTimes.com
has been sent to you by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Politics Returns in Forest Fire Debate
September 19, 2002
By TIMOTHY EGAN
COEUR D'ALENE, Idaho, Sept. 16 - Even on a day when a
late-summer rain coats the arthritic woods, it is clear
that Idaho Panh
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>Montreal protesters force cancellation of Netanyahu campus speech
> The scene as we exited was disgusting. Benches were overturned, papers
> and garbage streaked across the hallways, and broken windows. We were
> shoved outside directly into a HUGE Palestinian riot, where some
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I'm sure Kris has grounds for a libel suit.
Tenorlove
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> Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 10:36:31 -0400 (EDT)
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tenorlove)
> CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: R
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~~for educational purposes only~~
[Title 17 U.S.C. section 107]
The Conqueror's Shifting Ground
by Thomas E. Woods, Jr.
Following Iraq's decision to allow an
unconditional return of United Nations weapons
inspectors to that country, a rational person might
have acknowledged that
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With Iraq agreeing to inspectors without conditions, and UN giving
the inspectors 1 year to complete their mission, the Bush Government
seriously lost their face.
Now, what they *NEED* is another "terrorist" strike.
I previously speculated this would be something like
a "nuclear
Title: Sorrow and Liberties - NY Times
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September 19, 2002
Sorrow and Liberties
By BOB HERBERT
Anthony Romero's first day on the job as the new executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union was
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Ole Bush Baby is not going to wait a year he has the Zionist
masters up his bum.Wait for the fireworks now...this is why he is getting his
knickers in a twist because he knew this all the time ooops a daisy Georgy all
the best laid plans lol
The Mermaid http://news.independen
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well good old Herr Molleman this is
promising Poor old Herr shroeder Ill bet he had wished he'd kept his mouth shut
last week describing Herr molleman as a one of the Sensible voices in the free
democratic party.
Like Mr Bush he proably choked on a
pretzel when he heard this!
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Get this straight, Miss Jones, I have never accused you of anything.
I have your home address and phone number as well, since you once
posted it to CTRL. And I will supply it to your local police if you
continue to contact and harass me.
Tenorlove
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CEA's Gary Shapiro: P2P file swapping is both legal and moral
Some background:
http://www.ce.org/press_room/press_release_detail.asp?id=10027
http://www.ce.org/press_room/speech.doc
http://news.com.com/2100-1023-958324.html?tag=cd_mh
http://www.mccullagh.org/image/d30-25/gary-sh
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http://64.69.71.161/index-side_external.php?article=26678&list=/home.php&;
September 18, 2002
Spy scandal has reduced America's control of mission
>From James Bone in New York
THE United States will find it hard to control the United Nations weapons
inspectors in Iraq as it on
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http://64.69.71.161/index-side_external.php?article=26681&list=/home.php&;
WAR'S BEGUN
EXCLUSIVE: British jets hit vital Iraqi HQ
By Tom Newton-Dunn, Defence Correspondent
BRITISH and American warplanes have bombed Iraq's most important air
intelligence headquarters.
The dr
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http://www.arabnews.com/Article.asp?ID=18702
SAUDI ARABIA'S FIRST ENGLISH DAILY
18 September 2002 / 11 Rajab 1423
Bush intent on war with Iraq, say experts
By Barbara Ferguson, Arab News Correspondent
WASHINGTON, 18 September Iraqs sudden announcement Monday to allow UN
we
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