From: "David M", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A further article in today's New Zealand Herald, front page no less!
David.
NZ Herald 26-2-01
Huge arms recall leaves frontline police without rifles
26.02.2001 By ALISON HORWOOD and NZPA
More than 800 police rifles have been withdrawn fr
From: "David M", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
An item in The Dominion (Wellington, New Zealand) today ( 24-Feb,) reads as
follows:
Police Withdraw 800 rifles after fault found.
More than 800 police rifles have been withdrawn from use after police found
some of the guns had malfunctioned
From: "David M", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
She favours an SKS Russian-made carbine accurate
to 2,000 metres, and a Russian shotgun in case of
surprise attacks by bears.
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Accurate to 2,000 metres? 200 maybe!
I bought two brand new Chinese SKS's (U
From: "David M", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Litigation is not my intent,
however, myself as a safety professional, I feel certain ethics are
involved.
"Certain ethics" !? Like trading the gun on to another unsuspecting buyer?
That doesn't quite tie up with the definition of "
From: "David M", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Electronic Telegraph
ISSUE 2098 Wednesday 21 February 2001
Pardoned drug dealer jailed for selling guns and ammo
A CONVICTED drug dealer, who served only 11 months of an 18-year term
after receiving a royal pardon, was jailed yesterd
From: "David M", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Perhaps someone should remind Robin Cook and his erstwhile colleagues at
the
UN that, in the last recorded case of genocide, in Rwanda, the large
majority of the 1 million or so people murdered were beaten to death with
sticks or cut to piece
From: "David M", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Electronic Telegraph
ISSUE 2094 Saturday 17 February 2001
300 weapons seized at police armourer's home
By David Sapsted
POLICE raided the home of their force's armourer and seized almost 300
weapons, including machineguns and grenade launchers
From: David Chappell - UK, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Like a lot of people, I enjoy the quotes often posted here.
I have kept just about all of them.
Whilst going through them, I came upon this little gem that I
had forgotton, it might make a nice poster:
"We are peaceful people; w
From: "David M", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Don't I recall some recent Govt. report saying that transfers of semi-auto
rifles should be banned and all long guns registered?
Steve.
True, but the select committee hasn't reported yet, due at the end of this
month. If any new bil
From: "David M", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Obviously it would be great if everyone agreed to actively oppose all
proposed restrictions, but that seems a long way away._
Derek Bernard
--
When the only thing left legal is air rifles!
Steve.
---
Let's face it shoot
From: David Mack, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
8th February 2001
The Editor,
Liverpool Echo.
Re: GUN LAW. Armed Police Aim To Halt City Shootings.
Dear Sir,
I was shocked to read of the violence afflicting the once fair city of
Liverpool and the proliferation of guns in the hands
From: "David M", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Steve/Norman, I believe that Steve has had some discussions with John Howat
who is Executive Director of New Zealand's Council of Licenced Firearms
Owners and one of NZ's leading experts in the field of firearms legislation
as well as no mean
uld simply be treated with the contempt it deserves.
This is all BS and a gross waste of Public money to boot.
David (Sussex)
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The police didn't know that until well into the investigation. If someone
pointed a brush at you that could be mistaken for a gun and threatened
to shoot you, what
From: "David M", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
This was in a UK newspaper yesterday, don't have further details.
DM
A Few extracts from D. W. Nash's 1870 The Fox's Prophecy:
'For not upon these hills alone, the doom of sport shall fall,
o'er the broad face of England creeps,
From: "David M", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
If you have a media player (I am using the standard free download Real
Player) this radio programme is quite interesting and gives an update and
debate - much better than the usual "talkback" type show - on the situation
in Ca
From: "David M", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
We have all seen articles in the press decrying hunters and hunting as blood
thirsty rambos slaughtering poor defenceless animals with no thought to the
future etc. Here's a couple of articles that put a different perspective.
DM
From: "David M", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
No reason to expect that the situation is any different here.
DM
ISSUE 2077 Wednesday 31 January 2001
Cats are the 'worst' killers
By Charles Clover, Environment Editor
BRITAIN'S nine million cats are the main predators o
From: "david", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I am going to put "Cybershooters" at the base of my placard.
Subscribers have my permission to use the Cybershooters logo
(which is on the website, Times New Roman bold italic is the
font), provided the placard is polite and does n
From: "David M", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 08:19:34 -0500
From: "Breitkreuz, Garry - Assistant 1" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Editorial: POLICING PERSPECTIVE
PUBLICATION: The Toronto Sun
DATE: 2001.01.26
SECTION: Editorial/opinion
PAGE: 1
From: "David M", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PROGRAM: THE WORLD AT SIX
NETWORK: CBC-R
DATE: 2001.01.25
TIME: 18:00:00 ET
END: 18:30:00 ET
GUEST: GREG RASMUSSEN, Reporter; ANTOINETTE FLUVIAN, CanadianFirearms
Centre; LAY LAYCOCK, The National Firearms Association;
HOST: RUSS GERMAIN A
From: David Lury, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Is it true that all UK railway companies and some bus companies now
prohibit carrying of firearms by passengers and/or as freight/unaccompanied
baggage?
David Lury
--
Dunno, it's not illegal to do it. Certainly you can carry
firearms
hield from the camera's on the rooftops.
david
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From: "David M", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.nationalpost.com/search/story.html?f=/stories/20010119/442755.html
Gun safety, indeed
National Post
The goal of Canada's half-billion dollar gun registry is public safety. By
requiring gun owners to provide references
From: "David M", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Electronic Telegraph
ISSUE 2065 Friday 19 January 2001
Hunt ban will harm country policing, say chiefs
By John Steele, Crime Correspondent
CHIEF constables have warned the Home Office that a ban on hunting with dogs
could damage rel
From: "David M", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Police said today they had recovered a magazine containing
15 rounds of live ammunition lost by armed officers. A member of the public
from the Carrington area of Nottingham rang police at 2.45am to say he had
found what he thought was t
From: David Chappell - UK, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hiya,
I'm sorry, but I just have to add my two pence worth to this thread!
One or two contributors have made reference to the ISO 9000
series as if they were some sort of guarantee of quality - They
are not.
ISO 9001, 9002 and 9003
From: "David M", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I detect some hardening of attitudes (!) among those being discriminated
against so unjustly in Britain! I have recently been listening to some
recordings of Sir Winston Churchill's speeches and one in particular springs
to mind. I wonder
From: "David M", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ISSUE 2064 Thursday 18 January 2001
Shooting and fishing are next, MPs told
By Michael Kallenbach, Parliamentary Correspondent
LABOUR'S attempt to ban hunting with dogs means that fishing and shooting
could be next on the list to b
From: "David M", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Electronic Telegraph
ISSUE 2064 Thursday 18 January 2001
MPs vote for total ban on hunting
By George Jones and Benedict Brogan
PARLIAMENT took the first steps towards criminalising hunting with dogs when
MPs voted overwhelmingly
From: "David M", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ISSUE 2064 Thursday 18 January 2001
Ban predicted within two years
By Peter Foster
ANTI-HUNT campaigners predicted that a ban on hunting would become a reality
within two years.
The RSPCA, the League Against Cruel Sports and the Int
From: "David M", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
EMAIL ADDRESS OF WRITER:- Elizabeth Bromstein's E-mail address is
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
PUBLICATION: Montreal Gazette
DATE: 2001.01.09
EDITION: FINAL
SECTION: News
PAGE: A4
COLUMN: Page Four Column
BYLINE: ELIZABETH BROMSTEIN
SOURCE:
From: "David M", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The boy's drawing was obviously - inappropriate - but perhaps the
appropriate
reaction might have been a clip round his ear'ole from his Dad. But then,
what do I know? I'm a middle aged, middle class heterosexual male
caucasian.
Kennet
From: "David M", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The sooner Hague realises that Widdecombe is a liability to the Tories and
replaces her the better for their election prospects. This latest load of
tripe she has come out with is unfortunately all too typical of her inane
waffling.
Kate Hoey for
From: "David L", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In response to the post regarding Miss Widdicombe's proposal regarding
self-defence, subscribers might be interested in the Home Invasion Act 1998,
in NSW Australia. It was introduced and passed as a private members bill by
the Shooters Party membe
From: "David M", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ET
ISSUE 2048 Tuesday 2 January 2001
Hoey criticises ban on handguns
By David Sapsted
THE post-Dunblane ban on handgun possession has done nothing to stop
criminals getting their hands on firearms, according to Kate Hoey, the
sports minister.
From: David Chappell - UK, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Eley make .22 RF tracer as well
David
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From: "David M", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Widdicombes waffling on self defence I received the following this
morning as part of a club newsletter. I have removed the club news bits for
brevity.
Regards,
David.
Southwest Gun Club, Inc.
PO Box 1061
McComb, MS 39648
601-684-3020
From: "David M", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Daily Telegraph editorial 28-12-00
This man wasn't mad about guns - he was just mad
By Toby Harnden
International: Seven killed for sake of a $2,000 tax bill
A HAND-WRINGING Boston Globe editorial lamented the "nightmare that st
From: "David M", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Makes you wonder just how the human race actually did survive before the
invention of firearms doesn't it.
Neil Francis
Trowbridge, UK
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
Oh yes, politically correct castaways. They should last about fi
From: "David M", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Be very careful what you do with empty cartridge cases! Remember the the man
who held up the restaurant by exhibiting a cartridge in his hand? Such is
the level of ignorance and hysteria about firearms in the UK these days that
anyone equipped with
From: "David Johnson", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The coast around Dover was positively bristling with guns!
In the early '50s I lived just along the coast from Dover. There were
batteries of (I think) 6" guns that were still used for practice, firing at
a sort of raft of railway sleepe
From: "David M", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Alex,
I have no scientific evidence to quote to you. I understand that Sierra
conducted a series of tests and concluded, basically, that moly coating
their projectiles is a waste of time but I don't have details of those
tests. I am surprised you s
From: "David M", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The Gazette Saturday 1 September 1917.
"Molebdenum can increase the life of a gun by as much as twenty times"
So whats new then.
My Swedish Mauser 6.5x55 is 102 years old, has never had a moly coated
bullet through it in it's life and
From: "David M", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Knives don't kill people, people kill people.
Now where have I heard an expression something like that before?
DM
Electronic Telegraph
ISSUE 2022 Thursday 7 December 2000
Knives blamed for rise in Scotland's murder rate
By Nick Britten
arely appear in person without two-tones and blues.
Strike any chords of recognition ? Come back into the human race before it
really is too late - technology is not the answer to everything.
David M ( Sussex )
Don't forget - Sunday 18th March 2001 - Countryside March - be there !!!
Cybershoote
From: "David Rovardi", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Help I'm confused about these knife laws
Could anyone tell me what I am and not allowed to carry.
What is the definition of carry, i.e. on person, in bag etc
What is the law regarding lockknives, can I have one or not
Can I get done for
de you in any affray - but sadly no
longer. I speak generically of course - I still have many trusted
friends in the force / service - who knows, you may even be one of them
:-)
Happy Christmas guys - don't forget the Countryside March next Spring.
David M - Sussex
Cybershooters website: http://www.cyb
From: "David Rovardi", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Last year it was estimated that 20% of all hospital admins and
upto 45,000 deaths where caused due to legal drugs.(This is drug
interactions, people misusing legally prescribed drugs and over
the counter drugs). Think about this in context
From: "David Rovardi", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Drugs
E safer than heroin, I don't think so. E was developed as an
antipsycotic drug (eg to treat schizophrenics). It is not safe,
even the government can't get the warnings right. Drink lots of
water while you take it, its the overheating
From: "David M", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
steal. Also, in aircraft where the hold isn't pressurised, the
combination of cold and low pressure might overcome the gas seals
of an old scope just when you _don't_ want them to fail.
Aircraft holds are pressurised. They have restricted airflow
From: "David Johnson", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The following entry regarding the formation of the Artists Rifles, taken
from the History of the Great War. The period being covered is 1914.
"What proved a valuable experiment was tried about this time by Sir John
French in establish
From: "David M", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yes indeed the MV's are a bit on the conservative side hardly any advantage
over the 6.5x55mm for which, of course, there is a vast repertoire of loads.
I dare say though that with time and careful load development a much hotter
load could could be
From: "David Rovardi", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It seems the police like to push the point about LETHAL
firearms, a car becomes lethal if you run some one over
with it. I very much doubt if my guns or for that matter
most on the list will ever be used in a lethal manner.
regards
Dav
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi Steve,
forwarded just in case you / the list haven't already received this.
Sounds like they need big support right now - a good opportunity for
major publicity in the right hands :-))
David M
--
Pro gunners, Pro RKBA'ers If ever there was a time
that you were needed
From: "David M", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I did think when they showed the flick knife and
the butterfly knife that was a prime example of
why knife bans are a waste of time. Flick knives
have been banned for 30 years.
Longer than that I think. I remember going to Lake Como on a school tr
From: David Chappell - UK, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Israeli silent but deadly
MOSSAD used to be very fond of Ruger's semi auto .22 RF
pistol with integral suppresor.
Mind you, they did get up close.
I also understand that it was used for special ops in
Vietnam as well.
David.
--
I thought
From: David Chappell - UK, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Martini-Henry's in 577/450 were never intended for
smokeless loads, were not proofed for smokeless loads,
and any insurance that you may have (either personaly
or as a member of a club) may well be invalidated by
using them. - You may also violate
From: "David Rovardi", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Anyone else out there think that the statement of controlling
'gun culture' is going to be an attack on practical shooting ?
regards
David
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That's a good point actually, I see they "accept in principle"
the idea of shooting o
From: "David M", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
After all shotguns don't get plastic
deposits in their barrels from plastic wads or cartridge
hulls do they?
They most certainly do if you use plastic wads over blackpowder in shotgun
cartridges. The much greater transfer of heat to shotgun ba
From: "David Rovardi", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Just a quick note to say thanks for the info provided from all
on cybershooters. Once again I have found you all an invaluable
source of info. If we can keep this up perhaps we can save
shooting in this country!
regards
David Rovardi
Cyb
From: David Chappell - UK, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Proof:
When I asked the Birmingham proof master I was told that
the gun barrel proof acts only apply on sale or transfer
- If it is a personal import and you NEVER sell or
transfer it then it does not need to be proofed.
Oh, BTW, the proof acts
From: "David M", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A friend sent me the following. Sorry I don't have a source for it but you
may be interested anyway.
DM
Tests show Gulf war victims have uranium poisoning
Jonathon Carr-Brown and Martin Meissonnier
NEW evidence that Gulf war syndr
From: "david", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
snip
Gill Marshall-Andrews was invited to speak first. I have
to admit that she is an accomplished public speaker but,
as one would have expected, had nothing sensible to add to
any debate on firearms control. During her 'opening speech'
Joe Kelly i
From: "david", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The moral being that you win
people over by being friendly to them and educating
them in the way you want them to think - attack them
and you have lost them.
Open your minds; you might take three steps forward
and suffer four steps back
- I will not judge - I support the view that if a person
points a weapon at an armed officer-or any other person for that matter,
then he / she must accept the consequences of his / her actions. This is
surely common law and natural justice.
Hope this makes sense in the current diatribe.
David
--
From: David Chappell - UK, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Oh dear, I was trying to avoid the anorak chemical stuff but
it appears I can't so sorry:
Chris Evans said:
BP contains Potassium Nitrate (75% by weight), an oxidiser
which will oxidise (rust) steel in the presence of moisture.
Also, one
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Does greasing a target metal plate increase the angle
that a bullet can be fired from and still riccochet?
Say from 20 degrees to 40 degrees?
If the objective is to increase the probability of riccochet then it
would depend on :
The weight / volume of the metal
From: David Chappell - UK, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OK, I have been using black powder for a very long time -
I will say again that black powder is NOT corrosive. It
does not contain anything that is corrosive, nor do the
products of combustion contain anything that is.
There are a lot of myths
From: David Chappell - UK, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jonathan Spencer said: It's not an explosive, AFAIK, so
no. You need an explosives licence forblack powder if you
are going to use it for blasting or in a muzzle-
loading gun. But if you are loading black powder cartridges,
you don't need
From: David Chappell - UK, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yes, the residue from Pyrodex is hygroscopic, but then so
is the residue from black powder.
I have burnt both Pyrodex and black powder on mild steel
plates, and left the results outside. The BP one rusted,
but the Pyrodex one was etched after a few
From: David Chappell - UK, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I remember that there was an awful lot of 7.62 with Farsi
(Iranian) headstamps floating about a few years ago. Some
of it was in disintegrating links, and some was lose - but
all the headstamps that I saw were the same.
There were all sorts
From: "David M", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
However, their old .44 semi-auto was extremely popular,
but it held too many rounds and changes in hunting laws in
the 70s and 80s put it out of fashion. This new rifle is
designed with this in mind.
If it sells really well and some people start
From: "David M", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
BRITISH shooters are threatening to boycott the 2002
Commonwealth Games in Manchester because the Government's
ban on handguns prevents them practising.
They claim the ban puts them at a severe disadvantage to
foreign rivals,
Personally I would l
From: "David M", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I doubt it because (a) there is no demand in the US for such a device
and (b) it's quite difficult to do because the 4-round mag is a
rotary one.
But the 10-22 uses a rotary magazine and there are a number of after market
magazines available for
From: David Chappell - UK, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The reference to Chinese 7,62 NATO is interesting, as
I remember a series of articles in Guns Review about
ammunition and the author had encountered some 80's
vintage Chinese made 7,62 (made for export :-) but
marked not only with STANAG marks
From: "David M", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Does anyone have any personal experience of the problem of
using 7.62 NATO in a .308?
I bought some ex military "MEN" 7.62 ammo (German I believe) to use for
target/plinking in a Brazilian Mauser rebarreled to .308. After the fi
From: "David Rovardi", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks for the help and comments so far.
I typed yesterdays e-mail in a bit of a hurry.
Just to give you some further information, the range
in question is an indoor range, not passed for slug (we
use SG to minimize damage to lintex). Wh
From: "David M", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"The development of the rimmed .307 Win. began in 1980 with the first public
announcement in Dec 1982. The cartridge and the Model 94XTR Angle Eject
Carbine chambered for it were not available until early 1983."
Above and more det
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
More anarchist / extreme leftist / anti-establishment / history denial
rhubarb
from another Great Locust of Our Time. Bring on the DDT -
PSST
!!!
Wouldn't life be dull without NF - bless him !
Regards to all sensible CyberShooters - David
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