Re: package managers problem

2023-06-20 Thread Andy Smith
On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 02:23:31AM -0400, Maurice Heskett wrote: > my last msg indicated I was going to logout and back in. Which I > tried to do, but with a root pw set, or something else, IDK and > don't at this point care because the only damned way I can login > is as root!!

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-20 Thread Maurice Heskett
On 6/21/23 01:12, Jeffrey Walton wrote: On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 10:17 PM wrote: On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 17:03:24 -0400 Greg Wooledge wrote: [...] In a sensible design, the GUI part would run as you, and it would send requests to a daemon that runs as root, or simply issue shell commands with "s

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-20 Thread Maurice Heskett
On 6/20/23 22:17, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 17:03:24 -0400 Greg Wooledge wrote: On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 04:56:39PM -0400, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: Apparently the broader dictum is "never run GUI apps as root". Why? What's special about GUI apps versus those yo

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-20 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 10:17 PM wrote: > > On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 17:03:24 -0400 > Greg Wooledge wrote: > [...] > > In a sensible design, the GUI part would run as you, and it would send > > requests to a daemon that runs as root, or simply issue shell commands > > with "sudo" or something, to do t

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-20 Thread tomas
On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 05:19:48PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: [...] > geany it seems might have a problem. > But it wasn't installed so I just used packagekit to install all of it as I > use it heavily writing g-codes, so lets try it live and in person: > > root@coyote:~# geany .Xauthority > Inv

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-20 Thread tomas
On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 09:40:22PM -0400, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: > On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 18:12:56 -0400 > Greg Wooledge wrote: > > [snip] > > > 1) Have a root password. SET A FUCKING ROOT PASSWORD. Seriously. > > Do that, and there are those who will harangue you for it. Sadly, > people

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-20 Thread tomas
On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 07:49:07PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 07:35:00PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > > with a slight difference. So now I have an unk pw set for root, and will > > likely have to re-install, again if I reboot. > > Nonsense. You can set a new root p

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-20 Thread tomas
On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 08:39:35PM +, Andy Smith wrote: > Hello, > > On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 10:57:30AM -0400, Sarunas Burdulis wrote: > > On 6/20/23 10:51, gene heskett wrote: > > > Easy: > > > gene@coyote:~/Pictures$ sudo synaptic > > > [sudo] password for gene: > > > Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKI

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-20 Thread Anssi Saari
writes: > I infer that Synaptic, by requiring root privileges to be truly useful, > is mis-designed, since there isn't a daemon executing root level > commands in the background. Well, no. There is a common framework for this and it's called PolicyKit.

Re: ibus-wayland question

2023-06-20 Thread 황병희
On Tue, 2023-06-20 at 14:05 +0200, didier gaumet wrote: > Le 20/06/2023 à 13:05, Byung-Hee HWANG a écrit : > > > Let me say my plan: > > There is lovely Korean Input Method for Korean Linux users. That > > name is > > Nabi. However Nabi is run only X11 environment. I want to take the > > Nabi > >

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-20 Thread paulf
On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 17:03:24 -0400 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 04:56:39PM -0400, pa...@quillandmouse.com > wrote: > > Apparently the broader dictum is "never run GUI apps as root". Why? > > What's special about GUI apps versus those you run in a terminal? > > The extreme examp

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-20 Thread paulf
On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 18:12:56 -0400 Greg Wooledge wrote: [snip] > 1) Have a root password. SET A FUCKING ROOT PASSWORD. Seriously. Do that, and there are those who will harangue you for it. Sadly, people who argue either way know more than I do about these security matters. And because expert

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-20 Thread paulf
On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 17:56:36 -0400 gene heskett wrote: > Like firefox, its big and complex, but unlike > gedit has never trashed a file for me, gedit has ruined so many I > finally banned it from my machines, all of them. Vim for the win! (kidding) Paul -- Paul M. Foster Personal Blog: http:/

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-20 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 07:35:00PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > with a slight difference. So now I have an unk pw set for root, and will > likely have to re-install, again if I reboot. Nonsense. You can set a new root password with "sudo passwd root" any time you wish, even without knowing t

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-20 Thread gene heskett
On 6/20/23 18:13, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 06:01:00PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: Alright then the question is, is policykit the solution, or do we install it, then spend two weeks and wreck 7 installs configuring it to work? In other words, get to the specifics or find a new

Re: How to stop systemd or whatever does,to always tries to check and fix disk errors

2023-06-20 Thread Mario Marietto
@nicolas george : you consider yourself a democratic person ? Do you fight every day for the freedom of speech of other people ? I don't see any insult from myself. The fact that you see it does not make it is. And what about your invitation to the other people to ignore me ? I consider this behavi

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-20 Thread Stefan Monnier
> I understand not running, say, VLC as root. But Synaptic? It allows you > to search, install and remove packages. Two of those things can't be > done without root permissions. I absolutely run it as root. > The problem is not what the App is expected to do, but the GUI code may "accidentally" do

Re: Strange message

2023-06-20 Thread Maureen L Thomas
On 6/20/23 2:51 AM, David Wright wrote: On Fri 16 Jun 2023 at 23:32:12 (-0400), Maureen L Thomas wrote: On 6/15/23 8:27 AM, ogis wrote: 15.06.2023 08:09, Maureen L Thomas пишет: Failed to receive portal pid: org.freedesktop.DBus, error, NameHasNoOwner Hello. Just check this: https://forums.d

Re: How to stop systemd or whatever does,to always tries to check and fix disk errors

2023-06-20 Thread Nicolas George
Mario Marietto (12023-06-21): > Probably you call troll what you find difficult to understand ? I'm a > psychologist,not a troll. Troll is a behavior, like entitled brat or asshole. Psychologist is a profession. They are not incompatible. I thought a psychologist would know the difference betwe

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-20 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> Probably you're running Synaptic on Wayland with root permission. >> Please restart your session without Wayland, or run Synaptic without >> root permission > > Thank you. That's the error I saw Correction: the above is not an error message. It's a guess of the likely cause of the error messa

Re: How to stop systemd or whatever does,to always tries to check and fix disk errors

2023-06-20 Thread Nicolas George
Mario Marietto (12023-06-20): > ---> Second, you are asking for help: that means your time is less valuable > than the time of people who might help you, and the most effort comes from > you. > > it's not a matter of effort : not everything is under our control : If I > don't know something,I COUL

Re: How to stop systemd or whatever does,to always tries to check and fix disk errors

2023-06-20 Thread Mario Marietto
Probably you call troll what you find difficult to understand ? I'm a psychologist,not a troll. Try to read and understand. This is the right method to understand more than what you understand now. If you talk about troll,you close the door to a lot of interesting topics. Ok,they probably aren't in

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-20 Thread Andy Smith
Hello Gene, On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 06:01:00PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > Alright then the question is, is policykit the solution, or do we > install it, then spend two weeks and wreck 7 installs configuring > it to work? In other words, get to the specifics or find a new horse. I think it's al

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-20 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Gene, On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 05:44:10PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > > Please do not encourage Gene's fetish of running GUI apps as root. […] > Andy, if you aren't behind dd-wrt for your home network, don't pretend to > tell me what I can't do I think your contributions to this list do a gr

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-20 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 06:01:00PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > Alright then the question is, is policykit the solution, or do we > install it, then spend two weeks and wreck 7 installs configuring > it to work? In other words, get to the specifics or find a new horse. I don't use synaptic, or xfc

Re: How to stop systemd or whatever does,to always tries to check and fix disk errors

2023-06-20 Thread debian-user
Mario Marietto wrote: > ---> Second, you are asking for help: that means your time is less > valuable than the time of people who might help you, and the most > effort comes from you. > > it's not a matter of effort : not everything is under our control : > If I don't know something,I COULD learn

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-20 Thread gene heskett
On 6/20/23 17:18, Andy Smith wrote: Hello, On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 04:56:39PM -0400, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 20:39:35 + Andy Smith wrote: Please do not encourage Gene's fetish of running GUI apps as root. Plenty of people have been wasting their time trying to t

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-20 Thread gene heskett
On 6/20/23 17:03, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 04:56:39PM -0400, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: Apparently the broader dictum is "never run GUI apps as root". Why? What's special about GUI apps versus those you run in a terminal? The extreme example is a web browser. Your typi

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-20 Thread gene heskett
On 6/20/23 16:40, Andy Smith wrote: Hello, On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 10:57:30AM -0400, Sarunas Burdulis wrote: On 6/20/23 10:51, gene heskett wrote: Easy: gene@coyote:~/Pictures$ sudo synaptic [sudo] password for gene: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keyUnable to init server: Could not connect: Conne

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-20 Thread gene heskett
On 6/20/23 16:01, Charles Curley wrote: On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 13:37:01 -0400 gene heskett wrote: Gene, this is a long shot. Do you have any KDE or qt components installed? in packagekit: kde search = desktop-base, girl.2-webkit2, libblockdev2, libblockdev-crypto2, libblockdev-fs2, libblock

Re: qt.network.ssl problems (OT?)

2023-06-20 Thread gene heskett
On 6/20/23 15:00, Patrick Wiseman wrote: On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 2:18 PM Patrick Wiseman wrote: On Tue, Jun 20, 2023, 2:02 PM gene heskett wrote: On 6/20/23 13:33, Patrick Wiseman wrote: Hello, all: This may be a little off-topic, in which case, apologies, but there's so much knowledge he

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-20 Thread Felix Miata
gene heskett composed on 2023-06-20 16:08 (UTC-0400): > Felix Miata wrote: >> gene heskett composed on 2023-06-20 10:51 (UTC-0400): Independently of whether you are able to do that without corrupting something, please provide here GUI terminal input/output from 'inxi -GSaz', The

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-20 Thread gene heskett
On 6/20/23 14:35, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 14:15:19 -0400 gene heskett wrote: [snip] gene@coyote:/usr/local/bin$ pkexec /usr/sbin/synaptic Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keyUnable to init server: Could not connect: Connection refused Failed to initialize GTK. Probably y

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-20 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 04:56:39PM -0400, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: > On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 20:39:35 + > Andy Smith wrote: > > Please do not encourage Gene's fetish of running GUI apps as root. > > Plenty of people have been wasting their time trying to tell him not > > to do that f

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-20 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 04:56:39PM -0400, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: > Apparently the broader dictum is "never run GUI apps as root". Why? > What's special about GUI apps versus those you run in a terminal? The extreme example is a web browser. Your typical web browser probably has thousands

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-20 Thread paulf
On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 20:39:35 + Andy Smith wrote: [snip] > > Please do not encourage Gene's fetish of running GUI apps as root. > Plenty of people have been wasting their time trying to tell him not > to do that for years now, and the last thing they need is bystanders > handing him a differ

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-20 Thread gene heskett
On 6/20/23 14:32, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 02:15:19PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: On 6/20/23 14:03, zithro wrote: On 20 Jun 2023 18:21, Charles Curley wrote: On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 16:52:47 +0200 Anders Andersson wrote: I'm running Gnome. Maybe synaptic is not compatible

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-20 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 10:57:30AM -0400, Sarunas Burdulis wrote: > On 6/20/23 10:51, gene heskett wrote: > > Easy: > > gene@coyote:~/Pictures$ sudo synaptic > > [sudo] password for gene: > > Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keyUnable to init server: Could not connect: > > Connection refused > >

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-20 Thread gene heskett
On 6/20/23 12:50, Felix Miata wrote: gene heskett composed on 2023-06-20 10:51 (UTC-0400): Independently of whether you are able to do that without corrupting something, please provide here GUI terminal input/output from 'inxi -GSaz', ... This is still bullseye, a netinstall from a week ago a

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-20 Thread Charles Curley
On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 13:37:01 -0400 gene heskett wrote: > > > > Gene, this is a long shot. Do you have any KDE or qt components > > installed? > > > in packagekit: > kde search = desktop-base, girl.2-webkit2, libblockdev2, > libblockdev-crypto2, libblockdev-fs2, libblockdev-loop2, > libblock

Re: qt.network.ssl problems (OT?)

2023-06-20 Thread Patrick Wiseman
On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 2:18 PM Patrick Wiseman wrote: > On Tue, Jun 20, 2023, 2:02 PM gene heskett wrote: > >> On 6/20/23 13:33, Patrick Wiseman wrote: >> > Hello, all: >> > >> > This may be a little off-topic, in which case, apologies, but there's so >> > much knowledge here, maybe someone can

Re: How to stop systemd or whatever does,to always tries to check and fix disk errors

2023-06-20 Thread Mario Marietto
---> Second, you are asking for help: that means your time is less valuable than the time of people who might help you, and the most effort comes from you. it's not a matter of effort : not everything is under our control : If I don't know something,I COULD learn MORE,but if I don't know that thin

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-20 Thread tomas
On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 02:35:08PM -0400, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: > On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 14:15:19 -0400 > gene heskett wrote: > > [snip] > > > gene@coyote:/usr/local/bin$ pkexec /usr/sbin/synaptic > > Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keyUnable to init server: Could not > > connect: Connection re

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-20 Thread paulf
On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 14:15:19 -0400 gene heskett wrote: [snip] > gene@coyote:/usr/local/bin$ pkexec /usr/sbin/synaptic > Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keyUnable to init server: Could not > connect: Connection refused > Failed to initialize GTK. > > Probably you're running Synaptic on Wayland with r

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-20 Thread tomas
On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 02:15:19PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On 6/20/23 14:03, zithro wrote: > > On 20 Jun 2023 18:21, Charles Curley wrote: > > > On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 16:52:47 +0200 > > > Anders Andersson wrote: > > > > > > > I'm running Gnome. Maybe synaptic is not compatible with xfce? > > >

Re: qt.network.ssl problems (OT?)

2023-06-20 Thread Patrick Wiseman
On Tue, Jun 20, 2023, 2:02 PM gene heskett wrote: > On 6/20/23 13:33, Patrick Wiseman wrote: > > Hello, all: > > > > This may be a little off-topic, in which case, apologies, but there's so > > much knowledge here, maybe someone can help. > > > > I recently acquired a Creality 3D printer, and Cre

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-20 Thread gene heskett
On 6/20/23 14:03, zithro wrote: On 20 Jun 2023 18:21, Charles Curley wrote: On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 16:52:47 +0200 Anders Andersson wrote: I'm running Gnome. Maybe synaptic is not compatible with xfce? Nope. I have synaptic running here with xfce4 on Bullseye. synaptic    0.90.2    amd64 x

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-20 Thread zithro
On 20 Jun 2023 18:21, Charles Curley wrote: On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 16:52:47 +0200 Anders Andersson wrote: I'm running Gnome. Maybe synaptic is not compatible with xfce? Nope. I have synaptic running here with xfce4 on Bullseye. synaptic0.90.2 amd64 xfce4 4.16all

Re: qt.network.ssl problems (OT?)

2023-06-20 Thread gene heskett
On 6/20/23 13:33, Patrick Wiseman wrote: Hello, all: This may be a little off-topic, in which case, apologies, but there's so much knowledge here, maybe someone can help. I recently acquired a Creality 3D printer, and Creality has supplied an AppImage to operate it. When I execute it, I get the

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-20 Thread tomas
On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 10:51:13AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: [...] > Easy: > gene@coyote:~/Pictures$ sudo synaptic > [sudo] password for gene: > Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keyUnable to init server: Could not connect: > Connection refused > Failed to initialize GTK. Gene, this is just not going

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-20 Thread gene heskett
On 6/20/23 12:15, Charles Curley wrote: On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 10:10:26 -0400 gene heskett wrote: I am not a gnome fan. Packagekit says all 157 synaptic dependencies are present and accounted for, but it will not run here, bitching about wayland and root. So IMNSHO, there must be a dependency th

qt.network.ssl problems (OT?)

2023-06-20 Thread Patrick Wiseman
Hello, all: This may be a little off-topic, in which case, apologies, but there's so much knowledge here, maybe someone can help. I recently acquired a Creality 3D printer, and Creality has supplied an AppImage to operate it. When I execute it, I get these errors and a segmentation fault: qt.net

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-20 Thread Xiyue Deng
writes: > [[PGP Signed Part:Undecided]] > On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 04:06:23AM -0400, Charles Kroeger wrote: >> > As far as I know, apt is pretty much apt-get >> >> If you're using Debian 12 then the -get is gone. > > No, it's still there, whenever you need it :) > > Cheers IIUC "apt" is a repl

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-20 Thread Felix Miata
gene heskett composed on 2023-06-20 10:51 (UTC-0400): >> Independently of whether you are able to do that without corrupting >> something, >> please provide here GUI terminal input/output from 'inxi -GSaz', ... > This is still bullseye, a netinstall from a week ago and I have > no inxi according

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-20 Thread David Wright
On Tue 20 Jun 2023 at 11:12:37 (-0400), pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: > On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 10:51:13 -0400 > gene heskett wrote: > > [snip] > > > > Probably you're running Synaptic on Wayland with root permission. > > Please restart your session without Wayland, or run Synaptic without > > ro

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-20 Thread Charles Curley
On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 16:52:47 +0200 Anders Andersson wrote: > I'm running Gnome. Maybe synaptic is not compatible with xfce? Nope. I have synaptic running here with xfce4 on Bullseye. synaptic0.90.2 amd64 xfce4 4.16all -- Does anybody read signatures any more? h

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-20 Thread Charles Curley
On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 10:10:26 -0400 gene heskett wrote: > I am not a gnome fan. Packagekit says all 157 synaptic dependencies > are present and accounted for, but it will not run here, bitching > about wayland and root. > > So IMNSHO, there must be a dependency that isn't satisfied on an > xfce4

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-20 Thread Joe
On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 10:51:13 -0400 gene heskett wrote: > gene@coyote:~/Pictures$ sudo synaptic > [sudo] password for gene: > Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keyUnable to init server: Could not > connect: Connection refused > Failed to initialize GTK. > > Probably you're running Synaptic on Wayland w

Re: How to stop systemd or whatever does,to always tries to check and fix disk errors

2023-06-20 Thread Nicolas George
Mario Marietto (12023-06-20): > What about if I don't know which kind of information you need ? I'm the > hobbyist,you are the developer. It's better that you ask what you want to > know and I try to reply with my limited knowledge. You are doubly mistaken here. First, this is a users mailing lis

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-20 Thread gene heskett
On 6/20/23 11:29, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 16:52:47 +0200 Anders Andersson wrote: I don't have synaptic in the path, but the icon is setup to start a program that *is* in my path: synaptic-pkexec Maybe you can try that, I think that's responsible for asking about you

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-20 Thread gene heskett
On 6/20/23 10:57, Sarunas Burdulis wrote: On 6/20/23 10:51, gene heskett wrote: Easy: gene@coyote:~/Pictures$ sudo synaptic [sudo] password for gene: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keyUnable to init server: Could not connect: Connection refused Failed to initialize GTK. [...] So perhaps copy tha

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-20 Thread gene heskett
On 6/20/23 10:54, Anders Andersson wrote: On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 9:36 AM gene heskett wrote: On 6/20/23 00:32, Anders Andersson wrote: On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 5:38 AM gene heskett wrote: I'm with you Paul, if Anders know how to do it, please PUBLISH the how. For a while on bullseye, a "sud

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-20 Thread paulf
On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 10:51:13 -0400 gene heskett wrote: [snip] > Probably you're running Synaptic on Wayland with root permission. > Please restart your session without Wayland, or run Synaptic without > root permission Thank you. That's the error I saw when I tried this some time back under W

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-20 Thread paulf
On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 16:52:47 +0200 Anders Andersson wrote: > I don't have synaptic in the path, but the icon is setup to start a > program that *is* in my path: synaptic-pkexec > > Maybe you can try that, I think that's responsible for asking about > your password. /usr/bin/synaptic-pkexec is a

Re: How to stop systemd or whatever does,to always tries to check and fix disk errors

2023-06-20 Thread Mario Marietto
What about if I don't know which kind of information you need ? I'm the hobbyist,you are the developer. It's better that you ask what you want to know and I try to reply with my limited knowledge. On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 4:48 PM Stefan Monnier wrote: > > ok,do you have some workaround to propose

Re: debchange still wants to build for bullseye-backports after upgrade to Bookworm

2023-06-20 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2023-06-20 19:05 +0500, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: > Hello. > > I've successfully upgraded to Bookworm recently and trying to build a > backport package. > But the usual "$ debchange --bpo" still wants to build for > "bullseye-backports" and modifies "debian/changelog" by adding > "~bpo11+1"

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-20 Thread Sarunas Burdulis
On 6/20/23 10:51, gene heskett wrote: Easy: gene@coyote:~/Pictures$ sudo synaptic [sudo] password for gene: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keyUnable to init server: Could not connect: Connection refused Failed to initialize GTK. [...] So perhaps copy that cookie into /root/?: sudo cp /home/gene/

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-20 Thread gene heskett
On 6/20/23 08:06, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 03:36:20AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: from an xfce4 terminal shell, it bitches about wayland and exits, Please show the command you typed, and the full output of that command. It's pretty irritating that we have to ASK for that.

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-20 Thread Anders Andersson
On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 9:36 AM gene heskett wrote: > On 6/20/23 00:32, Anders Andersson wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 5:38 AM gene heskett wrote: > >> > >> I'm with you Paul, if Anders know how to do it, please PUBLISH the how. > >> For a while on bullseye, a "sudo -E synaptic" worked, then

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-20 Thread gene heskett
On 6/20/23 07:17, Felix Miata wrote: gene heskett composed on 2023-06-20 03:13 (UTC-0400): Why is it Gene thinks any trouble he has has anything to do with Wayland? XFCE doesn't run in Wayland. The only Wayland XFCE users must have is the foundation Wayland requires from Xorg, which no one can

Re: How to stop systemd or whatever does,to always tries to check and fix disk errors

2023-06-20 Thread Stefan Monnier
> ok,do you have some workaround to propose to me,boys ? Not before you give more info, no. Stefan

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-20 Thread David Wright
On Tue 20 Jun 2023 at 10:10:26 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > On 6/20/23 05:22, didier gaumet wrote: > > - Synaptic does not need Wayland, it can run on Wayland. > > > > - On a standard Debian 12 (Gnome) installation, Synaptic works OOTB > > > I am not a gnome fan. Packagekit says all 157 synapt

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-20 Thread gene heskett
On 6/20/23 05:22, didier gaumet wrote: Le 20/06/2023 à 09:13, gene heskett a écrit : That needs a better explanation, Felix. As I see it, wayland can't run as root, so no app that needs root works with wayland. Since package managers with a gui need wayland, all the package managers that do h

debchange still wants to build for bullseye-backports after upgrade to Bookworm

2023-06-20 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
Hello. I've successfully upgraded to Bookworm recently and trying to build a backport package. But the usual "$ debchange --bpo" still wants to build for "bullseye-backports" and modifies "debian/changelog" by adding "~bpo11+1" and "bullseye-backports;" instead of expected "~bpo12+1" and "boo

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-20 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 03:36:20AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > from an xfce4 terminal shell, it bitches about wayland and exits, Please show the command you typed, and the full output of that command. It's pretty irritating that we have to ASK for that. You should know to provide such basic inf

Re: ibus-wayland question

2023-06-20 Thread didier gaumet
Le 20/06/2023 à 13:05, Byung-Hee HWANG a écrit : Let me say my plan: There is lovely Korean Input Method for Korean Linux users. That name is Nabi. However Nabi is run only X11 environment. I want to take the Nabi to the next generation "Wayland world". This is my lifelong wish. Really i love th

Re: VirtualBox key is store in deprecated legacy keyring

2023-06-20 Thread Frank
Op 20-06-2023 om 08:53 schreef Rick Thomas: On Mon, Jun 19, 2023, at 8:27 PM, Jeffrey Walton wrote: On Mon, Jun 19, 2023 at 11:15 PM Rick Thomas wrote: Now when I do "apt update" I get this message: .W: https://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian/dists/bullseye/InRelease: Key i

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-20 Thread Felix Miata
gene heskett composed on 2023-06-20 03:13 (UTC-0400): >> Why is it Gene thinks any trouble he has has anything to do with Wayland? >> XFCE >> doesn't run in Wayland. The only Wayland XFCE users must have is the >> foundation >> Wayland requires from Xorg, which no one can be rid of (nor need to)

Re: ibus-wayland question

2023-06-20 Thread Byung-Hee HWANG
On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 07:27:58PM +0900, Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희) wrote: > didier gaumet writes: > > > Le 20/06/2023 à 05:07, Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희) a écrit : > >> Hellow Debian hackers,s > >> I'm CJK user with Debian Gnome from South Korea. > >> Nowdays i am interested in Wayland and Input Method.

Re: ibus-wayland question

2023-06-20 Thread 황병희
didier gaumet writes: > Le 20/06/2023 à 05:07, Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희) a écrit : >> Hellow Debian hackers,s >> I'm CJK user with Debian Gnome from South Korea. >> Nowdays i am interested in Wayland and Input Method. >> So i did install ibus-wayland: > [...] >> Please please show me the example conf

Re: fetchamil / procmail as non root : unable to call script

2023-06-20 Thread Christoph Brinkhaus
Am Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 07:52:24AM +0200 schrieb BASSAGET Cédric: Bonjour Cédric, > Hello > I'm using fetchamil / procmail to fetch mails from an POP server and parse > it then launch a script or system call : [...] > This work fine when calling fetchamil as root with "fetchamil -f > .fetchmail

Re: Installer: get rid off second checkbox “Show password in Clear”

2023-06-20 Thread David Wright
On Tue 20 Jun 2023 at 11:00:17 (+0200), Damian wrote: > I wrote: > > […] it's much more important to > > allow checking that both passwords were typed correctly than to > > satisfy somebody's idea of a "cleaner" screen, whatever that means. > > Agreed > > What I meant was that if someone needs

Re: ibus-wayland question

2023-06-20 Thread didier gaumet
Le 20/06/2023 à 05:07, Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희) a écrit : Hellow Debian hackers,s I'm CJK user with Debian Gnome from South Korea. Nowdays i am interested in Wayland and Input Method. So i did install ibus-wayland: [...] Please please show me the example config for testing inputing with ibus-way

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-20 Thread didier gaumet
Le 20/06/2023 à 09:13, gene heskett a écrit : That needs a better explanation, Felix. As I see it, wayland can't run as root, so no app that needs root works with wayland. Since package managers with a gui need wayland, all the package managers that do have a gui, are now dead except gnome pac

Re: Re: Installer: get rid off second checkbox “Show password in Clear”

2023-06-20 Thread Damian
[…] it's much more important to allow checking that both passwords were typed correctly than to satisfy somebody's idea of a "cleaner" screen, whatever that means. Agreed What I meant was that if someone needs to check the password, most of the time it will be both. In my opinion, you don't n

thank in advance for the advice

2023-06-20 Thread Schweik Josef
Hi all, I maintain our isolated network for specific tasks. For easy install debian system, chooseing and adding the additional packages we have an easy configurable -lighttpd- web server with full debian repository mirror. I download the mirror once per year with apt-mirror*), single architect

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-20 Thread didier gaumet
Le 20/06/2023 à 04:41, pa...@quillandmouse.com a écrit : On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 03:58:18 +0200 Anders Andersson wrote: [snip] I've been watching this thread from afar for a while and it still puzzles me why people keep bringing up wayland. I've been running wayland for years, and synaptic works

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-20 Thread tomas
On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 04:06:23AM -0400, Charles Kroeger wrote: > > As far as I know, apt is pretty much apt-get > > If you're using Debian 12 then the -get is gone. No, it's still there, whenever you need it :) Cheers -- t signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-20 Thread David Wright
On Tue 20 Jun 2023 at 03:13:17 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > On 6/20/23 00:20, Felix Miata wrote: > > Why is it Gene thinks any trouble he has has anything to do with Wayland? > > XFCE > > doesn't run in Wayland. The only Wayland XFCE users must have is the > > foundation > > Wayland requires f

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-20 Thread Nicolas George
Charles Kroeger (12023-06-20): > > As far as I know, apt is pretty much apt-get > If you're using Debian 12 then the -get is gone. [citation needed] Regards, -- Nicolas George

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-20 Thread Charles Kroeger
> As far as I know, apt is pretty much apt-get If you're using Debian 12 then the -get is gone. #apt [a command] & #dpkg [a command] Should cover any package management you would want. -- salve Debian invictus pgpK1eYZBjaIa.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: How to stop systemd or whatever does,to always tries to check and fix disk errors

2023-06-20 Thread Mario Marietto
ok,do you have some workaround to propose to me,boys ? Thank you. On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 3:18 AM Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Mon, Jun 19, 2023 at 8:48 PM Stefan Monnier > wrote: > > > > [...] > > > of=/dev/mmcblk1 status=progress bs=2M but very rarely it wants to > boot. I > > > don't understan

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-20 Thread gene heskett
On 6/20/23 03:20, Timothy M Butterworth wrote: On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 3:13 AM gene heskett wrote: On 6/20/23 00:20, Felix Miata wrote: gene heskett composed on 2023-06-19 23:37 (UTC-0400): paulf@q... wrote On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 03:58:18 +0200 Anders Andersson wrote: I've been watching

Re: Compiling Virtualbox on "bookworm" [plain text email]

2023-06-20 Thread Erwan David
Le 20/06/2023 à 01:19, Ian Tan a écrit : Hello, Apologies for sending "rich text" of the same email previously. That was an accident. Here should be the plain text now. Due to upstream issues, Virtualbox is not available on bookworm. I have an urgent business use case, that required virtualbox

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-20 Thread gene heskett
On 6/20/23 00:32, Anders Andersson wrote: On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 5:38 AM gene heskett wrote: On 6/19/23 22:41, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 03:58:18 +0200 Anders Andersson wrote: [snip] I've been watching this thread from afar for a while and it still puzzles me why

Re: What's the simplest way to map (part 2)

2023-06-20 Thread David Wright
On Mon 12 Jun 2023 at 09:02:51 (+), Ottavio Caruso wrote: > then: > > $ sudo service keyboard-setup restart > $ sudo udevadm trigger --subsystem-match=input --action=change > > but I can't see any changes. I use, after editing: # dpkg-reconfigure console-setup ; service console-setup resta

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-20 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 3:13 AM gene heskett wrote: > On 6/20/23 00:20, Felix Miata wrote: > > gene heskett composed on 2023-06-19 23:37 (UTC-0400): > > > >> paulf@q... wrote > > > >>> On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 03:58:18 +0200 Anders Andersson wrote: > > > I've been watching this thread from afar f

Re: What's the simplest way to map ...

2023-06-20 Thread David Wright
Rerereposted owing to excessive "mail cleaning". Part 1. On Mon 12 Jun 2023 at 09:02:51 (+), Ottavio Caruso wrote: > I've also manually edited /etc/default/keyboard That's the file I change. Mine's attached as a syntax example; commas /inside/ the quotes. Part 2 may follow, whenever I succe

Re: Ethernet device names change Bullseye => Bookworm. How to assign unchanging name to device?

2023-06-20 Thread Markus Schönhaber
20.06.23, 08:36 +0200, Rick Thomas: I've been upgrading my machines Bullseye => Bookworm recently. In a few of these upgrades, the name of the ethernet device changed. (E.g. enP2p32s15f0 => enP2p0s15f0) This required changes to /etc/network/interfaces in order to start up the interface. T

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-20 Thread gene heskett
On 6/20/23 00:20, Felix Miata wrote: gene heskett composed on 2023-06-19 23:37 (UTC-0400): paulf@q... wrote On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 03:58:18 +0200 Anders Andersson wrote: I've been watching this thread from afar for a while and it still puzzles me why people keep bringing up wayland. I've bee

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