Re: VirtualBox (VB) and Windows on Debian

2024-07-18 Thread George at Clug
On Friday, 19-07-2024 at 10:15 s...@swampdog.co.uk wrote: > On Wednesday, 17 July 2024 21:31:00 BST Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 16, 2024 at 1:35 PM jeremy ardley > wrote: > > > On 16/7/24 19:31, Tom Browder wrote: > > > > I haven't looked at VB in a long time, but I have a real need

Re: umask - default user settings?

2024-07-18 Thread songbird
Max Nikulin wrote: > On 19/07/2024 04:11, songbird wrote: >>so far, agreed, i poked at it a bit the other day to see >> if MATE would work with the roughly (user-@1000,etc) systemd >> unit approach but that didn't accomplish anything i could tell. > > It would be great if those, who tried it, r

Re: Kernel 6.9.9 (amd64) results in huge initrd / initramfs size

2024-07-18 Thread songbird
The Wanderer wrote: ... > By taking on yourself the risk and burden of running sid, you are > volunteering to be one of those who helps notice issues before they > reach testing, and report those issues so that the machinery of the > archive can stop the package versions which those issues from mig

Re: web site displays blank page

2024-07-18 Thread Max Nikulin
On 19/07/2024 00:17, Russell L. Harris wrote: CHEWY is a large nation-wide outfit.  I suspect the trouble is with RTA, because of frequent freezes when viewing a certain news website, while all other streams are uninterrupted with my 10/1 service from RTA. Some web sites are rather aggressive w

Re: umask - default user settings?

2024-07-18 Thread Max Nikulin
On 19/07/2024 04:11, songbird wrote: so far, agreed, i poked at it a bit the other day to see if MATE would work with the roughly (user-@1000,etc) systemd unit approach but that didn't accomplish anything i could tell. It would be great if those, who tried it, reported more precise what the

Re: web site displays blank page

2024-07-18 Thread Russell L. Harris
I'm having this problem on an increasing number of web sites; I suspect that web page building tools are becoming more and more hostile toward any browsers except for the anointed few (Edge and Chrome, plus Safari for the Mac folks). I once had a W7P machine which helped me check such matters,

Re: VirtualBox (VB) and Windows on Debian

2024-07-18 Thread sd
On Wednesday, 17 July 2024 21:31:00 BST Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Tue, Jul 16, 2024 at 1:35 PM jeremy ardley wrote: > > On 16/7/24 19:31, Tom Browder wrote: > > > I haven't looked at VB in a long time, but I have a real need for a > > > Windows host > > > to port some Linux libraries to Windows

Re: Remote desktop Debian -> ChromeBook

2024-07-18 Thread Paul van der Vlis
Op 18-07-2024 om 23:20 schreef Nicolas George: Hi. I want to display a desktop and applications running on a Debian box on the screen and keyboard of a ChromeBook. Over LAN+WLAN mostly, but if it can also work more remotely in degraded mode it would be nice. I see various options to try: VNC wi

Re: Kernel 6.9.9 (amd64) results in huge initrd / initramfs size

2024-07-18 Thread Ash Joubert
On 2024-07-19 02:32, Celejar wrote: I'm currently on kernel 6.9.8 (amd64 / Sid). Installing 6.9.9 fails due to running out of space on /boot: update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-6.9.9-amd64 zstd: error 70 : Write error : cannot write block : No space left on device E: mkinitramfs failur

Re: Kernel 6.9.9 (amd64) results in huge initrd / initramfs size

2024-07-18 Thread The Wanderer
On 2024-07-18 at 10:32, Celejar wrote: > Hello, > > I'm currently on kernel 6.9.8 (amd64 / Sid). Installing 6.9.9 fails due to > running out of space on /boot: > > * > update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-6.9.9-amd64 > zstd: error 70 : Write error : cannot write block : No space lef

Re: Remote desktop Debian -> ChromeBook

2024-07-18 Thread Nicolas George
Xiyue Deng (12024-07-18): > I have been using Chrome Remote Desktop[1] for a few years, and it has > been very reliable. Everything is handled through a web page so you > need not install anything in the Android subsystem. Recently (about a > year actually) it added support for pipewire so sound

Re: Re: Kernel 6.9.9 (amd64) results in huge initrd / initramfs size

2024-07-18 Thread Celejar
The Wanderer wrote: > On 2024-07-18 at 13:50, Celejar wrote: > > > Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > >> This is not the place for debugging Sid, I'm afraid, there are too > >> few > > > > It's not? Where, then, is the place for debugging Sid? > > I'm no longer anything *close* to an expert in this

Re: Remote desktop Debian -> ChromeBook

2024-07-18 Thread Xiyue Deng
Nicolas George writes: > Hi. > > I want to display a desktop and applications running on a Debian box on > the screen and keyboard of a ChromeBook. Over LAN+WLAN mostly, but if it > can also work more remotely in degraded mode it would be nice. > > I see various options to try: VNC with a native

Re: umask - default user settings?

2024-07-18 Thread songbird
Greg Wooledge wrote: ... > It only becomes *hard* when Desktop Environments are introduced into the > picture. so far, agreed, i poked at it a bit the other day to see if MATE would work with the roughly (user-@1000,etc) systemd unit approach but that didn't accomplish anything i could tell.

Re: Kernel 6.9.9 (amd64) results in huge initrd / initramfs size

2024-07-18 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 18 Jul 2024 13:47 -0400, from cele...@gmail.com (Celejar): >> I don't mean this to be snarky, but that desire seems incompatible >> with running Debian sid. I honestly think it's an unreasonable >> expectation to want official guides for every transitory broken >> state in a development tree. >

Re: Kernel 6.9.9 (amd64) results in huge initrd / initramfs size

2024-07-18 Thread The Wanderer
On 2024-07-18 at 13:50, Celejar wrote: > Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: >> This is not the place for debugging Sid, I'm afraid, there are too >> few > > It's not? Where, then, is the place for debugging Sid? I'm no longer anything *close* to an expert in this area (having not run sid myself in well o

Remote desktop Debian -> ChromeBook

2024-07-18 Thread Nicolas George
Hi. I want to display a desktop and applications running on a Debian box on the screen and keyboard of a ChromeBook. Over LAN+WLAN mostly, but if it can also work more remotely in degraded mode it would be nice. I see various options to try: VNC with a native Android client, VNC with a client run

Re: Why is Firefox crashing so much lately?

2024-07-18 Thread mick.crane
getting elderly is brilliant. After getting everything just nice, experienced several system crashes. "I'll install the nvidia driver and see if that fixes it." Then I remember why I tried to remove the nvidia driver. an upgrade caused X to refuse to start. Install No3 and halfway through making i

Re: Nvidia chipsets and Debian 12 [WAS Re: Why is Firefox crashing so much lately?]

2024-07-18 Thread Gary Dale
On 2024-07-18 13:51, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Thu, Jul 18, 2024 at 10:41:50AM -0700, Van Snyder wrote: On Thu, 2024-07-18 at 07:55 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: HOW did you upgrade? Did you go via 11? Fresh install on reformatted boot and root partitions. OK I can't do that with my o

Re: web site displays blank page

2024-07-18 Thread cgibbs
On 2024-07-18, Russell L. Harris wrote: > When I try to visit www.chewy.com a blank page. This is a major pet > supply web site. Other web sites display as usual without problems. > I phoned CHEWY and they say their system is on-line. > > I have tried two different computers and both Fire

Re: Why is Firefox crashing so much lately?

2024-07-18 Thread Gary Dale
On 2024-07-18 09:52, Gary Dale wrote: On 2024-07-17 21:25, Gary Dale wrote: I'm running Debian/Trixie on an AMD64 system, using the Plasma 5 over X desktop. Firefox 115.12.0esr is crashing multiple times per day. It frequently happens when page I'm transfers to another page that creates a PDF

Re: Nvidia chipsets and Debian 12

2024-07-18 Thread Felix Miata
Andrew M.A. Cater composed on 2024-07-18 17:51 (UTC): > So just use Nouveau already on a ~15 year old laptop. FTR, technically not a good recommendation. Nouveau has multiple meanings. Employing each individual meaning generally is suboptimal, as it includes the "reverse-engineered, experimental"

Re: Re: Re: Kernel 6.9.9 (amd64) results in huge initrd / initramfs size

2024-07-18 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Jul 18, 2024 at 13:50:21 -0400, Celejar wrote: > Really? I had the impression that lots of list subscribers / readers > run Sid. Are there statistics on this? Nah, sid users are just louder, on average. Stable users don't have as much to talk about, because our stuff just works. ;-)

Nvidia chipsets and Debian 12 [WAS Re: Why is Firefox crashing so much lately?]

2024-07-18 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Thu, Jul 18, 2024 at 10:41:50AM -0700, Van Snyder wrote: > On Thu, 2024-07-18 at 07:55 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > > > HOW did you upgrade? Did you go via 11? > > > Fresh install on reformatted boot and root partitions. > OK > > > I can't do that with my old Dell Vostro 1700 because

Re: Re: Re: Kernel 6.9.9 (amd64) results in huge initrd / initramfs size

2024-07-18 Thread Celejar
Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Thu, Jul 18, 2024 at 03:42:30PM +, Andy Smith wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Thu, Jul 18, 2024 at 11:35:15AM -0400, Celejar wrote: > > > I'd rather not mess around with stuff I don't really understand > > > without an official guide to the process. > > > > I don't me

Re: Re: Re: Kernel 6.9.9 (amd64) results in huge initrd / initramfs size

2024-07-18 Thread Celejar
Andy Smith wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, Jul 18, 2024 at 11:35:15AM -0400, Celejar wrote: > > I'd rather not mess around with stuff I don't really understand > > without an official guide to the process. > > I don't mean this to be snarky, but that desire seems incompatible > with running Debian sid.

Re: Why is Firefox crashing so much lately?

2024-07-18 Thread Van Snyder
On Thu, 2024-07-18 at 07:55 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Wed, Jul 17, 2024 at 08:00:06PM -0700, Van Snyder wrote: > > On Wed, 2024-07-17 at 22:17 -0400, e...@gmx.us wrote: > > > On 7/17/24 21:25, Gary Dale wrote: > > > > I'm running Debian/Trixie on an AMD64 system, using the Plasma > > > >

Re: Re: Kernel 6.9.9 (amd64) results in huge initrd / initramfs size

2024-07-18 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Thu, Jul 18, 2024 at 03:42:30PM +, Andy Smith wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, Jul 18, 2024 at 11:35:15AM -0400, Celejar wrote: > > I'd rather not mess around with stuff I don't really understand > > without an official guide to the process. > > I don't mean this to be snarky, but that desire seem

Re: web site displays blank page

2024-07-18 Thread Russell L. Harris
On Thu, Jul 18, 2024 at 08:14:26AM -0400, e...@gmx.us wrote: On 7/18/24 02:06, Russell L. Harris wrote: My ISP is RTA.?? I am in a rural area near Austin, Texas, and have a 10/1 microwave link.?? Could the problem be with RTA? It's probably a routing issue between you and them. Or maybe "deliv

Re: Re: Kernel 6.9.9 (amd64) results in huge initrd / initramfs size

2024-07-18 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Thu, Jul 18, 2024 at 11:35:15AM -0400, Celejar wrote: > I'd rather not mess around with stuff I don't really understand > without an official guide to the process. I don't mean this to be snarky, but that desire seems incompatible with running Debian sid. I honestly think it's an unreasona

Re: Re: Kernel 6.9.9 (amd64) results in huge initrd / initramfs size

2024-07-18 Thread Celejar
Dan Ritter wrote: > Celejar wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I'm currently on kernel 6.9.8 (amd64 / Sid). Installing 6.9.9 fails due to > > running out of space on /boot: > > ... > > > I'm not sure why I'm hitting this now - did Debian just change > > something? Is anyone else hitting this? Is this

Re: Why is Firefox crashing so much lately?

2024-07-18 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2024-07-17 21:25 -0400, Gary Dale wrote: > I'm running Debian/Trixie on an AMD64 system, using the Plasma 5 over > X desktop. Firefox 115.12.0esr is crashing multiple times per day. It > frequently happens when page I'm transfers to another page that > creates a PDF or just has a complicated li

Re: Kernel 6.9.9 (amd64) results in huge initrd / initramfs size

2024-07-18 Thread Dan Ritter
Celejar wrote: > Hello, > > I'm currently on kernel 6.9.8 (amd64 / Sid). Installing 6.9.9 fails due to > running out of space on /boot: ... > I'm not sure why I'm hitting this now - did Debian just change > something? Is anyone else hitting this? Is this documented somewhere? > Is there a str

Kernel 6.9.9 (amd64) results in huge initrd / initramfs size

2024-07-18 Thread Celejar
Hello, I'm currently on kernel 6.9.8 (amd64 / Sid). Installing 6.9.9 fails due to running out of space on /boot: * update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-6.9.9-amd64 zstd: error 70 : Write error : cannot write block : No space left on device E: mkinitramfs failure zstd -q -9 -T0 70 upd

Re: web site displays blank page

2024-07-18 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Thu, Jul 18, 2024 at 10:06 AM Dan Ritter wrote: > > e...@gmx.us wrote: > > On 7/18/24 02:06, Russell L. Harris wrote: > > > My ISP is RTA. I am in a rural area near Austinn, Texas, and have a > > > > 10/1 microwave link. Could the problem be with RTA? > > > > It's probably a routing issue be

Re: Cookie (&/or JavaScript) issue? - was [Re: web site displays blank page

2024-07-18 Thread Richard Owlett
On 07/18/2024 08:13 AM, e...@gmx.us wrote: On 7/18/24 08:23, Richard Owlett wrote: On 07/18/2024 01:16 AM, Alain D D Williams wrote: On Thu, Jul 18, 2024 at 06:06:05AM +, Russell L. Harris wrote: When I try to visit www.chewy.com a blank page.  This is a major pet supply web site.  Other w

Re: web site displays blank page

2024-07-18 Thread Dan Ritter
e...@gmx.us wrote: > On 7/18/24 02:06, Russell L. Harris wrote: > > My ISP is RTA.  I am in a rural area near Austinn, Texas, and have a > 10/1 > > microwave link.  Could the problem be with RTA? > > It's probably a routing issue between you and them. Or maybe "delivery > content network" (That'

Re: Why is Firefox crashing so much lately?

2024-07-18 Thread Gary Dale
On 2024-07-17 21:25, Gary Dale wrote: I'm running Debian/Trixie on an AMD64 system, using the Plasma 5 over X desktop. Firefox 115.12.0esr is crashing multiple times per day. It frequently happens when page I'm transfers to another page that creates a PDF or just has a complicated link. It's an

Re: web site displays blank page

2024-07-18 Thread Richard Owlett
On 07/18/2024 07:14 AM, e...@gmx.us wrote: On 7/18/24 02:06, Russell L. Harris wrote: My ISP is RTA.  I am in a rural area near Austinn, Texas, and have a > 10/1 microwave link.  Could the problem be with RTA? It's probably a routing issue between you and them. Or maybe "delivery content netwo

Re: Cookie (&/or JavaScript) issue? - was [Re: web site displays blank page

2024-07-18 Thread eben
On 7/18/24 08:23, Richard Owlett wrote: On 07/18/2024 01:16 AM, Alain D D Williams wrote: On Thu, Jul 18, 2024 at 06:06:05AM +, Russell L. Harris wrote: When I try to visit www.chewy.com a blank page.  This is a major pet supply web site.  Other web sites display as usual without problems.

Cookie (&/or JavaScript) issue? - was [Re: web site displays blank page

2024-07-18 Thread Richard Owlett
On 07/18/2024 01:16 AM, Alain D D Williams wrote: On Thu, Jul 18, 2024 at 06:06:05AM +, Russell L. Harris wrote: When I try to visit www.chewy.com a blank page. This is a major pet supply web site. Other web sites display as usual without problems. I phoned CHEWY and they say their system

Re: web site displays blank page

2024-07-18 Thread eben
On 7/18/24 02:06, Russell L. Harris wrote: My ISP is RTA.  I am in a rural area near Austinn, Texas, and have a > 10/1 microwave link.  Could the problem be with RTA? It's probably a routing issue between you and them. Or maybe "delivery content network" (That's what it's called, right? A com

Re: web site displays blank page

2024-07-18 Thread mindaugas
Hello. Site works fine here (Firefox 128.0) On 7/18/24 14:24, Roger Price wrote: On Thu, 18 Jul 2024, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Thu, Jul 18, 2024 at 02:27:39 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: Russell L. Harris composed on 2024-07-18 06:06 (UTC): Would someone kindly verify that chewy.com is accessibl

Re: web site displays blank page

2024-07-18 Thread Roger Price
On Thu, 18 Jul 2024, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Thu, Jul 18, 2024 at 02:27:39 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: Russell L. Harris composed on 2024-07-18 06:06 (UTC): Would someone kindly verify that chewy.com is accessible? https://www.chewy.com/ looks normal from FL in Chromium: Works for me in Googl

Re: web site displays blank page

2024-07-18 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Jul 18, 2024 at 02:27:39 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > Russell L. Harris composed on 2024-07-18 06:06 (UTC): > > Would someone kindly verify that chewy.com is accessible? > > https://www.chewy.com/ looks normal from FL in Chromium: Works for me in Google Chrome.

Re: Why is Firefox crashing so much lately?

2024-07-18 Thread mick.crane
On 2024-07-18 04:00, Van Snyder wrote: On Wed, 2024-07-17 at 22:17 -0400, e...@gmx.us wrote: On 7/17/24 21:25, Gary Dale wrote: > I'm running Debian/Trixie on an AMD64 system, using the Plasma 5 > over X > desktop. Firefox 115.12.0esr is crashing multiple times per day. It > frequently happens w

Re: Why is Firefox crashing so much lately?

2024-07-18 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Wed, Jul 17, 2024 at 08:00:06PM -0700, Van Snyder wrote: > On Wed, 2024-07-17 at 22:17 -0400, e...@gmx.us wrote: > > On 7/17/24 21:25, Gary Dale wrote: > > > I'm running Debian/Trixie on an AMD64 system, using the Plasma 5 > > > over X > > > desktop. Firefox 115.12.0esr is crashing multiple time