Re: [Desktop_architects] DAM-3 planning call - Thurs, Oct 5

2006-10-08 Thread Martin Konold
Am Donnerstag, 5. Oktober 2006 17:57 schrieb John Cherry: > The call is commencing... Is there a summary available? Cheers, -- martin -- http://www.erfrakon.com/ Erlewein, Frank, Konold & Partner - Beratende Ingenieure und Physiker ___ Desktop_archit

Re: [Desktop_architects] Summits at Desktop Developers Conference in Ottawa

2006-03-12 Thread Martin Konold
Am Donnerstag, 2. März 2006 23:03 schrieb Jim McQuillan: Hi, >   o Encryption of the X protocol.  Sure you can tunnel your X >     connection over SSH, but there are scaling issues when you >     run anything more than 30-40 thin clients from the same server. >     We have several examples of hun

Re: [Desktop_architects] Experience of an ISV, success and validation

2006-03-05 Thread Martin Konold
Am Donnerstag, 2. März 2006 16:28 schrieb Jeremy White: Hi, > And even the little blurb that exists was enough of a clue > bat to suggest calling gnome-open instead of evolution directly, > and lo and behold, it works! Please don't put gnome specific calls in 3rd party sw. ISVs integrating into

Re: [Desktop_architects] Applications and pre-installed machines

2006-01-29 Thread Martin Konold
Am Mittwoch, 18. Januar 2006 21:36 schrieb Aaron J. Seigo: Hi, > this is the scenario that Waldo raised in this thread, and it would indeed > be very interesting to know if there is any merit to it. I know that some German Government agencies indeed consider the ability for future migrations a

Re: [Desktop_architects] Applications and pre-installed machines

2006-01-29 Thread Martin Konold
Am Freitag, 20. Januar 2006 15:10 schrieb Jeremy White: Hi, > Photoshop ran under > Wine, but Adobe added a fairly severe DRM to Photoshop CS and CS2, so > modern versions of Photoshop no longer run under Wine. Is this a solveable problem or do you expect that DRM and similar technologies will

Re: [Desktop_architects] Applications and pre-installed machines

2006-01-23 Thread Martin Konold
Am Mittwoch, 18. Januar 2006 02:30 schrieb Aaron J. Seigo: Hi Aaron, > to be honest, i'm not holding my breath. by the time Adobe, et al, wake up > Krita, Inscape, Scribus, KPDF, etc... may be so good that people will laugh > at purchasing Adobe products on linux. that's something that Adobe and

Re: What is your answer to solve the top inhibitor for the Linuxdesktop adoption? (was Re: [Desktop_architects] Most wantedApplication: Email)

2006-01-08 Thread Martin Konold
Am Mittwoch, 4. Januar 2006 06:00 schrieb Mike Shaver: Hi Mike, > ecause it seems to me that nobody has   > actually come out and said why we want a great doc portal. It is rather simple. There is currently no single place where to point any ISV for Linux desktop developer information. This in

Re: [Desktop_architects] Printing dialog and GNOME

2005-12-30 Thread Martin Konold
Am Montag, 19. Dezember 2005 14:00 schrieb Michael Sweet: Hi Michael, > The goal, I thought, was for RUDI to provide access to a common set of > dialogs (file and print have been suggested so far) and not to suddenly > become a system-level library providing all common services and UIs. Actually

[Desktop_architects] Desktop Services

2005-12-30 Thread Martin Konold
Am Dienstag, 20. Dezember 2005 20:25 schrieben Sie: Hi Michael, > > E.g. KDE offers a file open dialog with preview capabilities. This > > capability is build into the dialog without a call back to the > > application calling the dialog. I should be more careful with my wording. With call back I

Re: [Desktop_architects] project status with regard to the cross-desktop message drafts

2005-12-28 Thread Martin Konold
Am Dienstag, 27. Dezember 2005 19:21 schrieb Aaron J. Seigo: Hi, > IMHO, GNOME is a blocker (in that it makes no sense for KDE to publish > these as a community message if GNOME isn't on board). Jeff, Nat: Can you do something about that? BTW: After I learned that Tim Ney is not in charge anymo

Re: [Desktop_architects] Most wanted Application: Email

2005-12-22 Thread Martin Konold
Am Mittwoch, 21. Dezember 2005 22:31 schrieb Mike Shaver: Hi, > Thunderbird or post-Windows-port Evolution Well, actually Kontact http://www.kontact.org/ fits very well. In addition Kontact will soon be available in a commercially supported configuration on Windows due to a government contrac

Re: [Desktop_architects] Most wanted Application: Email

2005-12-22 Thread Martin Konold
Am Mittwoch, 21. Dezember 2005 23:55 schrieb Miller, Marc: Hi, > than getting an enterprise to switch to a new server. All users of Exchange 5.x are forced to change servers anyway. Going from 5.x to 200x is a significant effort comparable like switching to Kolab. Part of the reasons why the

Re: [Desktop_architects] Most wanted Application: Email

2005-12-22 Thread Martin Konold
Am Donnerstag, 22. Dezember 2005 04:54 schrieb Aaron J. Seigo: Hi Aaron, > the lack of an email app that does what people need (if that is indeed a > problem) is the cough; the issues identified at Portland are the disease. thanks for stating the obvious is good plain English! Regards, -- marti

Re: [Desktop_architects] Most wanted Application: Email

2005-12-22 Thread Martin Konold
Am Donnerstag, 22. Dezember 2005 02:15 schrieb Bryce Harrington: Hi, >  I know there's > been a good deal of work in this area, so this report is fairly dated, This report is missing Kolab. Actually Kolab 1 (we are now at 2 with 2.1 comming up) was already announced as finished in 2003. http:/

Re: [Desktop_architects] Most wanted Application: Email

2005-12-22 Thread Martin Konold
Am Mittwoch, 21. Dezember 2005 23:35 schrieb Mike Shaver: Hi, > I must not be understanding this requirement, because that sounds   > like the sort of thing that is done by setting up the admin's mail   > client to point at the same IMAP account as the executives.  If   > that's really the #3 iss

Re: [Desktop_architects] Most wanted Application: Email

2005-12-22 Thread Martin Konold
Am Mittwoch, 21. Dezember 2005 22:19 schrieb Otto Wyss: Hi, > Implementation requirements: > - the GUI code is wyoGuide conformant You seem to try to sneak it in again and again ;-) Regards, -- martin -- http://www.erfrakon.com/ Erlewein, Frank, Konold & Partner - Beratende Ingenieure und Phy

Re: [Desktop_architects] Printing dialog and GNOME

2005-12-20 Thread Martin Konold
Am Dienstag, 20. Dezember 2005 20:47 schrieb Michael Sweet: Hi Michael, > That said, it is unlikely that the generic print dialog proposed here > will be used by more complex printing applications that provide custom > options and dynamic previews (i.e. drag the object you are printing > in the p

Re: [Desktop_architects] Printing dialog and GNOME

2005-12-20 Thread Martin Konold
Am Dienstag, 20. Dezember 2005 20:33 schrieb Mike Shaver: Hi Mike, > On 20-Dec-05, at 1:26 PM, Martin Konold wrote: > > E.g. KDE offers a file open dialog with preview capabilities. This > > capability > > is build into the dialog without a call back to the application >

Re: [Desktop_architects] Printing dialog and GNOME

2005-12-20 Thread Martin Konold
Am Montag, 19. Dezember 2005 14:08 schrieben Sie: Hi, > > The reason for this is that the print dialog needs bidirectional > > communication with the application for everything except the most trivial > > tasks. E.g. if > > But what if you want a preview in the file dialog?  Doesn't that > requir

Re: [Desktop_architects] Runtime dependency limitations

2005-12-19 Thread Martin Konold
Am Montag, 19. Dezember 2005 18:15 schrieben Sie: Hi, >  If we don't have a GNOME file picker available, f.e., we   > use our XUL one.  Bringing up a GTK1-era file-selection-bag-of- > widgets instead would make us frown, or even use coarse language. Actually this is exactly the our common goal!

Re: [Desktop_architects] Runtime dependency limitations

2005-12-18 Thread Martin Konold
Am Montag, 19. Dezember 2005 03:33 schrieb Mike Shaver: Mike, > On 18-Dec-05, at 4:30 PM, Martin Konold wrote: > > But it adds another runtime requirement to the application. When using > > traditional linking this means that the application will fail at > > runtime if >

Re: [Desktop_architects] Printing dialog and GNOME

2005-12-18 Thread Martin Konold
Am Freitag, 16. Dezember 2005 19:35 schrieben Sie: Hi Norm, > >I disagree because this ties the 3rd party application to a specific > > desktop. For the success of the Linux Desktop it is imho mandatory that > > 3rd party applications integrate well in any desktop which follows the > > same commo

Re: [Desktop_architects] Printing dialog and GNOME

2005-12-18 Thread Martin Konold
Am Freitag, 16. Dezember 2005 14:14 schrieb Michael Sweet: Hi Michael, > > It is a bad design decision for an application to directly link to the > > cups client library (ABI concerns,...) but it is much better to use a > > protocol based interface to use the full potential of CUPS. > > I strongl

Re: [Desktop_architects] Printing dialog and GNOME

2005-12-16 Thread Martin Konold
Am Mittwoch, 14. Dezember 2005 17:39 schrieb Till Kamppeter: > > (The KDE people are much less vitriolic about how Firefox is wearing > > white after Labour Day on their desktop, for whatever reason, and > > nobody has bothered to even wire up the file dialog, except for one > > frustrated hacker

Re: [Desktop_architects] Printing dialog and GNOME

2005-12-16 Thread Martin Konold
Am Freitag, 16. Dezember 2005 12:13 schrieben Sie: Hi, > How long will it take until RUDI is available? Basically it is a matter of comming to common grounds with the GNOME desktop architects. Limiting RUDI to just one desktop would not help the Linux Desktop as a whole. The later is a very

Re: [Desktop_architects] Re: Linux desktop, the fun thread

2005-12-16 Thread Martin Konold
Am Freitag, 16. Dezember 2005 05:07 schrieb Jim Gettys: Linus, > What's needed is a bit of help in a kernel driver, so when the graphics > hardware is busy, we can be kind enough to give you the CPU back (along > with what to do when the hardware is next free so we can keep the > hardware busy ra

Re: [Desktop_architects] Printing dialog and GNOME

2005-12-16 Thread Martin Konold
Am Mittwoch, 14. Dezember 2005 19:56 schrieb Till Kamppeter: Hi Till, > The added one can depend on CUPS and new GTK, if these > libraries are not present (for example when building on old Red Hat) the > old dialog is used, on current distros the new one (could be > automatically built appropriat

Re: [Desktop_architects] Printing dialog and GNOME

2005-12-16 Thread Martin Konold
Am Donnerstag, 15. Dezember 2005 07:13 schrieb Norm Jacobs: Hi Norm, > In general, the sooner we get applications > using the print dialogs available in the toolkits on the platform (in > this case, the new GTK print dialog), the better. I disagree because this ties the 3rd party application to

Re: [Desktop_architects] Printing dialog and GNOME

2005-12-16 Thread Martin Konold
Am Mittwoch, 14. Dezember 2005 18:00 schrieb Mike Shaver: Hi, > Consider this an open invitation for someone to come forward with a > proposal, plan, and patch for the Unix printing experience on Firefox.   I think with the project Portland/RUDI we will be able to offer you a path which does no

Re: [Desktop_architects] Proposal for change to administration

2005-12-16 Thread Martin Konold
Am Donnerstag, 15. Dezember 2005 18:00 schrieb Dan Kegel: Hi, > On 12/15/05, George Staikos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Can we make this list invite-only for subscription and member-only > > posting? Signal:noise ratio is dropping faster than I can keep up with > > the messages. > > Yes, pleas

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Usability] Re: [Desktop_architects] Printing dialog and GNOME (Summit mockups)]

2005-12-14 Thread Martin Konold
Am Mittwoch, 14. Dezember 2005 12:22 schrieb Tomasz Janowitz: Hi, > unfortunately I find both have become a bit "top heavy" and seem > sluggish on older equipment often found in schools and non-for-profit > organizations. I am not willing to accept this often repeated point without actual number

Re: [Desktop_architects] draft documents out of the communmity cooperation sessions

2005-12-14 Thread Martin Konold
Am Dienstag, 13. Dezember 2005 20:49 schrieb Jon Walker: Jon, > resonate with everyone here is that conflict resolution should be done > by a group that DOES NOT contain representatives of the various projects > but rather the beneficiaries i.e. users and ISVs (and/or whoever else is > a benefici

[Desktop_architects] Making X more responsive Was: Linux desktop, the fun thread

2005-12-14 Thread Martin Konold
Am Mittwoch, 14. Dezember 2005 07:38 schrieb Linus Torvalds: Thread Hijacking ahead Hi Linus, thanks for starting a technical discussion to help to solve the issues with the responsiveness of the Linux Desktop. For the near and mid-term future this means an X11 based desktop. Actually I

Re: [Desktop_architects] Printing dialog and GNOME

2005-12-14 Thread Martin Konold
Am Dienstag, 13. Dezember 2005 17:40 schrieb Jeff Waugh: Hi Jeff, > This is incorrect. As mentioned at the DTL meeting, a Siemens study from a > few years back demonstrated that duplicated interfaces result in decreased > user acceptance and increased training costs; while your software may look

Re: [Desktop_architects] draft documents out of the communmity cooperation sessions

2005-12-13 Thread Martin Konold
Am Mittwoch, 14. Dezember 2005 00:08 schrieb Daniel Stone: Hi Daniel, > with our current mailers. My feedback cycle involved saving it to a > hidden directory and making sure it was 644, and then opening the PDFs > over the web, which I claim is suboptimal (and so is my current mail > situation,