Re: activemq.apache.org website down?

2024-07-10 Thread Robbie Gemmell
Site is back up now. On Wed, 10 Jul 2024 at 10:23, Robbie Gemmell wrote: > > There is an issue with various projects websites just now, it is being > investigated. > > On Wed, 10 Jul 2024 at 09:55, Lionel Cons wrote: > > > > I've tried from several hosts and I get a 404 each time... > > > > $ wg

Re: activemq.apache.org website down?

2024-07-10 Thread Robbie Gemmell
There is an issue with various projects websites just now, it is being investigated. On Wed, 10 Jul 2024 at 09:55, Lionel Cons wrote: > > I've tried from several hosts and I get a 404 each time... > > $ wget https://activemq.apache.org/ > --2024-07-10 10:52:31-- https://activemq.apache.org/ > Re

activemq.apache.org website down?

2024-07-10 Thread Lionel Cons
I've tried from several hosts and I get a 404 each time... $ wget https://activemq.apache.org/ --2024-07-10 10:52:31-- https://activemq.apache.org/ Resolving activemq.apache.org (activemq.apache.org)... 2a04:4e42::644, 151.101.2.132 Connecting to activemq.apache.org (activemq.apache.org)|2a04:4e

Re: [DISCUSS/VOTE] Remove Artemis Javadoc from the ActiveMQ website...

2022-11-11 Thread Robbie Gemmell
on this more general, i.e also applying to the > 5.x 'latest' (typically stale) javadocs on the website as well, rather > than just the per-release Artemis javadocs this thread started about? > > If so it would seem to me that all the people who regularly update the > websit

Re: [DISCUSS/VOTE] Remove Artemis Javadoc from the ActiveMQ website...

2022-10-05 Thread Robbie Gemmell
JB, are your thoughts on this more general, i.e also applying to the 5.x 'latest' (typically stale) javadocs on the website as well, rather than just the per-release Artemis javadocs this thread started about? If so it would seem to me that all the people who regularly update the websit

Re: [DISCUSS/VOTE] Remove Artemis Javadoc from the ActiveMQ website...

2022-09-29 Thread Tetreault, Lucas
+1 I've never used the javadocs on the website and as Robbie said it makes building the site incredibly slow so testing changes locally is really painful. At the very least, it would be great to host them separately outside of the Jekyll website. - Lucas On 2022-09-29, 12:11 PM,

Re: [DISCUSS/VOTE] Remove Artemis Javadoc from the ActiveMQ website...

2022-09-29 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Hi Clebert, I'm +1 about this for the two reasons: 1. I don't think lot of people read the Javadoc on website (personally I'm reading directly in the IDE) 2. We can still have the javadoc jar published on Maven (not need to update website) Regards JB On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at

Re: [DISCUSS/VOTE] Remove Artemis Javadoc from the ActiveMQ website...

2022-09-29 Thread Matt Pavlovich
r added). > > > Justin > > On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 11:18 AM Clebert Suconic > wrote: > >> Can we stop publishing javadocs on the ActiveMQ Website for artemis? >> >> I see no point on publishing it as they are available in Maven. >> >> My

Re: [DISCUSS/VOTE] Remove Artemis Javadoc from the ActiveMQ website...

2022-09-28 Thread Justin Bertram
ng smarter like only publish it when something changes (e.g. methods are deprecated or added). Justin On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 11:18 AM Clebert Suconic wrote: > Can we stop publishing javadocs on the ActiveMQ Website for artemis? > > I see no point on publishing it as they are availabl

Re: [DISCUSS/VOTE] Remove Artemis Javadoc from the ActiveMQ website...

2022-09-28 Thread Robbie Gemmell
maintain the publishing, I would reconsider for > > sure my stance, but as it stands, think it's pretty useful, and when my org > > isn't rate-limited on the apache website, I use them :'-) > > > > -- > > Étienne > > > > On Wed, 28 Sep 2022,

Re: [DISCUSS/VOTE] Remove Artemis Javadoc from the ActiveMQ website...

2022-09-28 Thread Robbie Gemmell
ure my stance, but as it stands, think it's pretty useful, and when my org > isn't rate-limited on the apache website, I use them :'-) > It slows down building the site no end, publishing the site somewhat, uses a chunk of space, and adds a step to doing the release updates. Th

Re: [DISCUSS/VOTE] Remove Artemis Javadoc from the ActiveMQ website...

2022-09-28 Thread Clebert Suconic
t's a lot of effort to maintain the publishing, I would reconsider for > sure my stance, but as it stands, think it's pretty useful, and when my org > isn't rate-limited on the apache website, I use them :'-) > > -- > Étienne > > On Wed, 28 Sep 2022, at 9:1

Re: [DISCUSS/VOTE] Remove Artemis Javadoc from the ActiveMQ website...

2022-09-28 Thread Robbie Gemmell
l in all I dont see a great need for the javadoc to be on the website these days, so I'd be fine with it not being there, +1 On Wed, 28 Sept 2022 at 17:13, Clebert Suconic wrote: > > Can we stop publishing javadocs on the ActiveMQ Website for artemis? > > I see no point on publishi

Re: [DISCUSS/VOTE] Remove Artemis Javadoc from the ActiveMQ website...

2022-09-28 Thread Étienne Hossack
ource code even more. If it's a lot of effort to maintain the publishing, I would reconsider for sure my stance, but as it stands, think it's pretty useful, and when my org isn't rate-limited on the apache website, I use them :'-) -- Étienne On Wed, 28 Sep 2022, at 9:12

[DISCUSS/VOTE] Remove Artemis Javadoc from the ActiveMQ website...

2022-09-28 Thread Clebert Suconic
Can we stop publishing javadocs on the ActiveMQ Website for artemis? I see no point on publishing it as they are available in Maven. My vote is to completely remove it. So, if you agree with me, please respond with +1 Yes, stop publishing javadocs for ActiveMQ Artemis on the website and keep

Re: [WEBSITE HELP] Commit report not showing up...

2022-09-02 Thread Clebert Suconic
gt;> I'll go ask about it now, though there's possibly noone around just yet. > >> > >> On Thu, 1 Sept 2022 at 07:50, Emmanuel Hugonnet > >> wrote: > >> > >>> There is nothing at > >>> > >>> https://github.com/apac

Re: [WEBSITE HELP] Commit report not showing up...

2022-09-02 Thread Robbie Gemmell
perhaps, so infra >> would be the folks to ask on JIRA or slack: >> https://infra.apache.org/contact.html >> >> I'll go ask about it now, though there's possibly noone around just yet. >> >> On Thu, 1 Sept 2022 at 07:50, Emmanuel Hugonnet >> wrot

Re: [WEBSITE HELP] Commit report not showing up...

2022-09-01 Thread Robbie Gemmell
mmanuel Hugonnet > wrote: > >> There is nothing at >> >> https://github.com/apache/activemq-website/tree/asf-site/output/components/artemis/download/commit-report-2.25.0.html >> Looks like the CI which is supposed to build the site didn't run properly. >>

Re: [WEBSITE HELP] Commit report not showing up...

2022-09-01 Thread Robbie Gemmell
27;ll go ask about it now, though there's possibly noone around just yet. On Thu, 1 Sept 2022 at 07:50, Emmanuel Hugonnet wrote: > There is nothing at > > https://github.com/apache/activemq-website/tree/asf-site/output/components/artemis/download/commit-report-2.25.0.html > Look

Re: [WEBSITE HELP] Commit report not showing up...

2022-08-31 Thread Emmanuel Hugonnet
There is nothing at https://github.com/apache/activemq-website/tree/asf-site/output/components/artemis/download/commit-report-2.25.0.html Looks like the CI which is supposed to build the site didn't run properly. Emmanuel Le 01/09/2022 à 01:34, Clebert Suconic a écrit : Does anyone know w

[WEBSITE HELP] Commit report not showing up...

2022-08-31 Thread Clebert Suconic
Does anyone know what's going on? the commit report 2.25.0 is committed at: https://github.com/apache/activemq-website/blob/main/src/components/artemis/download/commit-report-2.25.0.html However, it's not showing as: https://activemq.apache.org/components/artemis/download/commit-rep

Re: [activemq-website] branch main updated: Use "new" dlcdn download URLs

2022-03-30 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Thanks for your input on #asfinfra, it's now clearer to me. I reverted my change and fix in the Karaf website. Regards JB On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 11:29 AM Robbie Gemmell wrote: > > The other download pages you linked actually are using the redirect > script, in the template m

Re: [activemq-website] branch main updated: Use "new" dlcdn download URLs

2022-03-30 Thread Robbie Gemmell
; > > > Agree, infra guys are pretty clear (at least Daniel and Chris were > > > very clear), but I guess other guys are not "up to date" ;) > > > > > > Quick extract from the chat I had with them on Slack: > > > > > > fluxo

Re: [activemq-website] branch main updated: Use "new" dlcdn download URLs

2022-03-30 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
FYI, I just asked the question straight (between dlcdn or closer.cgi preferred use) on #asfinfra. I will update the projects website accordingly. Thanks, Regards JB On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 11:19 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote: > > Why other Apache projects are using dlcdn directl

Re: [activemq-website] branch main updated: Use "new" dlcdn download URLs

2022-03-30 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
ight even say it is, in fact, [preferred] > > Humbedooh 20 h 39 > > download.apache.org is backup OR for sigs/checksums > > > > So, it's what I said: dlcdn is the preferred download system for > > artifacts, and keep download for sign/hash. > > > > I wi

Re: [activemq-website] branch main updated: Use "new" dlcdn download URLs

2022-03-30 Thread Robbie Gemmell
d with them on Slack: > > fluxo 20 h 38 > you might even say it is, in fact, [preferred] > Humbedooh 20 h 39 > download.apache.org is backup OR for sigs/checksums > > So, it's what I said: dlcdn is the preferred download system for > artifacts, and keep download for s

Re: [activemq-website] branch main updated: Use "new" dlcdn download URLs

2022-03-30 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
backup OR for sigs/checksums So, it's what I said: dlcdn is the preferred download system for artifacts, and keep download for sign/hash. I will update the website accordingly. Regards JB On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 10:41 AM Robbie Gemmell wrote: > > They must have changed their stance

Re: [activemq-website] branch main updated: Use "new" dlcdn download URLs

2022-03-30 Thread Robbie Gemmell
o use for artifact download > 2. They confirm the webpage Robbie linked is not up to date. I talked with > Andrew Wetmore (author of this page). He didn’t know dlcdn : he will update > the page with my help. > > So, according to this update, I will do a new pass on ActiveMQ website to

Re: [activemq-website] branch main updated: Use "new" dlcdn download URLs

2022-03-29 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
. So, according to this update, I will do a new pass on ActiveMQ website to use dlcdn where it makes sense and fix signature / hash links. Regards JB Le mar. 29 mars 2022 à 18:17, Robbie Gemmell a écrit : > This seems wrong, I think this should be reverted. > > We are still asked t

Re: [activemq-website] branch main updated: Use "new" dlcdn download URLs

2022-03-29 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
No, it's correct. Almost all Apache projects use dlcdn for the binary artifacts (I think the page you are referencing is not up to date for artifacts). For instance: https://maven.apache.org/download.cgi https://tomcat.apache.org/download-10.cgi etc However, checksum and signature should go via

Re: [activemq-website] branch main updated: Use "new" dlcdn download URLs

2022-03-29 Thread Robbie Gemmell
This seems wrong, I think this should be reverted. We are still asked to use the redirect scripts so that infra can manage resources as needed, and are meant to link to downloads.apache.org for checksums as the page did. https://infra.apache.org/release-download-pages.html The old links also redi

Re: [DISCUSS] New Jira project for website

2021-09-22 Thread Robbie Gemmell
d mailing list > discussions. However, it's not clear to everyone (especially outside > contributors) that this is what should happen, and it's not consistent with > the rest of the project components. > > History indicates that regardless of whether or not someone *should* cre

Re: [DISCUSS] New Jira project for website

2021-09-21 Thread Justin Bertram
he rest of the project components. History indicates that regardless of whether or not someone *should* create a Jira for the website, they will. This isn't surprising because it's natural to track such issues in Jira as that's exactly what it is for. This is especially true for fol

Re: [DISCUSS] New Jira project for website

2021-09-21 Thread Matt Pavlovich
Agree w/ Robbie. A JIRA Project for website changes is overkill. At this rate, the "How do I contribute to ActiveMQ?" README is going to need page breaks ;-) Having spent considerable time working on the AMQ backlog, I think less things is better. Of the 9 current JIRA projects, ov

Re: [DISCUSS] New Jira project for website

2021-09-21 Thread Robbie Gemmell
27;ve dealt with both cases even in the same project, for me having the independent JIRA projects is definitely nicer) I think in that regard if people believe we need JIRAs for the website then having its own project would be the way to go. That said, I dont personally think the site really needs

Re: [DISCUSS] New Jira project for website

2021-09-20 Thread Justin Bertram
fe. > > > > I think it would be simpler and more consistent for project contributors if > we had a new Jira project specifically for the website. Currently issues > for the website are opened in the AMQ [1] Jira project that's dedicated to > the "Classic" broker. E

Re: [DISCUSS] New Jira project for website

2021-09-20 Thread Hossack, Etienne
Jira project specifically for the website. Currently issues for the website are opened in the AMQ [1] Jira project that's dedicated to the "Classic" broker. Each project component has its own Jira project [2] so it seems reasonable that the website would as well. To be clear, ActiveMQ

[DISCUSS] New Jira project for website

2021-09-20 Thread Justin Bertram
I think it would be simpler and more consistent for project contributors if we had a new Jira project specifically for the website. Currently issues for the website are opened in the AMQ [1] Jira project that's dedicated to the "Classic" broker. Each project component has its own

Re: [PROPOSAL] Remove nabble links from website

2021-08-13 Thread Bruce Snyder
Jean-Baptiste Onofré > > wrote: > > > > > Justin already merged the PR, so I guess we are good ;) > > > > > > Thanks ! > > > > > > Regards > > > JB > > > > > > On 13/08/2021 16:48, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote: > &

Re: [PROPOSAL] Remove nabble links from website

2021-08-13 Thread Justin Bertram
n already merged the PR, so I guess we are good ;) > > > > Thanks ! > > > > Regards > > JB > > > > On 13/08/2021 16:48, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote: > > > Hi guys, > > > > > > I created pull request > > > https://github.com

Re: [PROPOSAL] Remove nabble links from website

2021-08-13 Thread Bruce Snyder
, 2021 at 8:51 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote: > Justin already merged the PR, so I guess we are good ;) > > Thanks ! > > Regards > JB > > On 13/08/2021 16:48, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote: > > Hi guys, > > > > I created pull request > > https://github.c

Re: [PROPOSAL] Remove nabble links from website

2021-08-13 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Justin already merged the PR, so I guess we are good ;) Thanks ! Regards JB On 13/08/2021 16:48, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote: Hi guys, I created pull request https://github.com/apache/activemq-website/pull/56 on website to remove the nabble link from the contact page. Since nabble

[PROPOSAL] Remove nabble links from website

2021-08-13 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Hi guys, I created pull request https://github.com/apache/activemq-website/pull/56 on website to remove the nabble link from the contact page. Since nabble downgraded their servers capacity, a bunch of forums linked to mailing list are not available anymore. It's the case for se

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Apache ActiveMQ from "Classic" to "Leto" | Website update/polish

2021-03-23 Thread Paul Gale
here are points of difference, the examples are the place to > demonstrate and document such that users community can easily evaluate > for them selves. > > On Tue, 23 Mar 2021 at 04:59, Jean-Baptiste Onofre > wrote: > > > > Hi Art, > > > > Your point about a

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Apache ActiveMQ from "Classic" to "Leto" | Website update/polish

2021-03-23 Thread Gary Tully
rdinates > as they are today, and focus "naming" for website mainly. > But you are right, the artifacts can be confusing for users. > So, if we decide to rename, artifacts worth a rename as well. > > About website, I like your idea, especially for new users, providing > &

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Apache ActiveMQ from "Classic" to "Leto" | Website update/polish

2021-03-22 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofre
Hi Art, Your point about artifacts makes lot of sense. To limit the impacts, my first thought was to keep the artifacts coordinates as they are today, and focus "naming" for website mainly. But you are right, the artifacts can be confusing for users. So, if we decide to rename, artif

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Apache ActiveMQ from "Classic" to "Leto" | Website update/polish

2021-03-22 Thread Arthur Naseef
x27;s not a unique problem to AMQ; for example, I still have to pause and think, "is it group-id commons-io, or org.apache.commons"? One idea of a small change to the website landing page that could help (as an additional consideration, not a replacement for renaming) - have a link with

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Apache ActiveMQ from "Classic" to "Leto" | Website update/polish

2021-03-20 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofre
are in two different repos, and we have some gaps, >> I think it could be "confusing" for our users. >> >> That was exactly my point when I started the thread: I see users lot in >> naming, versioning. >> I think that maybe the mistake was to keep Acti

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Apache ActiveMQ from "Classic" to "Leto" | Website update/polish

2021-03-20 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofre
users. >> >> That was exactly my point when I started the thread: I see users lot in >> naming, versioning. >> I think that maybe the mistake was to keep ActiveMQ "branding" for 5.x, >> and have Artemis at same time. >> >> Anyway, it’s mostly a comm

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Apache ActiveMQ from "Classic" to "Leto" | Website update/polish

2021-03-20 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofre
version is not super clean for users (for us, it’s a not a problem because we are involved in the project, but think about "external" users). If we go with naming change for "Classic" (or whatever name), I’m really to tackle the effort (it can be done in two steps, website/docu

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Apache ActiveMQ from "Classic" to "Leto" | Website update/polish

2021-03-20 Thread Bruce Snyder
ould be "confusing" for our users. > > That was exactly my point when I started the thread: I see users lot in > naming, versioning. > I think that maybe the mistake was to keep ActiveMQ "branding" for 5.x, > and have Artemis at same time. > > Anyway, it’s m

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Apache ActiveMQ from "Classic" to "Leto" | Website update/polish

2021-03-20 Thread Arthur Naseef
s behind it), so renaming could lead to a lot of changes - for example, renaming the artifacts could be desirable. Changing the designation on the website landing page seems like a good idea to me - it's a "shallow" operation (shallow meaning only 1 layer of thing to change). Hence

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Apache ActiveMQ from "Classic" to "Leto" | Website update/polish

2021-03-20 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofre
in naming, versioning. I think that maybe the mistake was to keep ActiveMQ "branding" for 5.x, and have Artemis at same time. Anyway, it’s mostly a communication and website point. I think (even if I don’t like "Classic" name ;)) we can keep Artemis and Classic, but clearly separa

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Apache ActiveMQ from "Classic" to "Leto" | Website update/polish

2021-03-20 Thread Christopher Shannon
t; Hi guys, > > It seems we lost the initial intend of this thread. > > The two initial questions on this thread were: > > 1. Can we give a more clear "tag name" than "classic", and also being able > to use different versioning than just 5. > 2. Refactori

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Apache ActiveMQ from "Classic" to "Leto" | Website update/polish

2021-03-19 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofre
Hi guys, It seems we lost the initial intend of this thread. The two initial questions on this thread were: 1. Can we give a more clear "tag name" than "classic", and also being able to use different versioning than just 5. 2. Refactoring just the activemq "cla

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Apache ActiveMQ from "Classic" to "Leto" | Website update/polish

2021-03-19 Thread Bruce Snyder
ctiveMQ Community. > For instance, 2 ActiveMQ committers who have been more committers on > Artemis codebase more than anything dedicated a lot of their time into > the website update. > > That was Martyn Talylor (who is actually the author of the new Logo), > and Mike Pearce...

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Apache ActiveMQ from "Classic" to "Leto" | Website update/polish

2021-03-19 Thread Bruce Snyder
gt;> guess > > >>>> maybe if you want to keep the branding) > > >>>> > > >>>> On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 10:57 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofre < > j...@nanthrax.net > > >>> <mailto:j...@nanthrax.net>> > > >>>

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Apache ActiveMQ from "Classic" to "Leto" | Website update/polish

2021-03-19 Thread Bruce Snyder
> > broker is because we have not been selling/messaging it this way to the > > user community. In the six years since HornetQ was donated, we have not > > published any plans for the community (i.e., on the website) describing > the > > intended plan. I think this is due t

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Apache ActiveMQ from "Classic" to "Leto" | Website update/polish

2021-03-19 Thread Clebert Suconic
ty. For instance, 2 ActiveMQ committers who have been more committers on Artemis codebase more than anything dedicated a lot of their time into the website update. That was Martyn Talylor (who is actually the author of the new Logo), and Mike Pearce... I know both of them used a lot of non billable hours

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Apache ActiveMQ from "Classic" to "Leto" | Website update/polish

2021-03-19 Thread Arthur Naseef
; PMC members would prefer on the ActiveMQ "umbrella". >> >> Anyway, I give up on this thread, agree with Gary: let’s keep colocation >> on the ActiveMQ "umbrella". We will see what our users will do. >> >> I will still maintain and work on

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Apache ActiveMQ from "Classic" to "Leto" | Website update/polish

2021-03-19 Thread Arthur Naseef
ctiveMQ "umbrella". We will see what our users will do. > > I will still maintain and work on ActiveMQ, heading to new features and > releases. I will request some helps for website refactoring/cleanup. > > Regards > JB > > > Le 19 mars 2021 à 21:21, Gary Tully

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Apache ActiveMQ from "Classic" to "Leto" | Website update/polish

2021-03-19 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofre
ead, agree with Gary: let’s keep colocation on the ActiveMQ "umbrella". We will see what our users will do. I will still maintain and work on ActiveMQ, heading to new features and releases. I will request some helps for website refactoring/cleanup. Regards JB > Le 19 mars 2021 à 21:

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Apache ActiveMQ from "Classic" to "Leto" | Website update/polish

2021-03-19 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofre
e six years since HornetQ was donated, we have not > published any plans for the community (i.e., on the website) describing the > intended plan. I think this is due to the fact that most folks were focused > on Artemis development and working on moving toward feature parity with > ActiveMQ

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Apache ActiveMQ from "Classic" to "Leto" | Website update/polish

2021-03-19 Thread Gary Tully
t; >>> don’t > >>>>> want to "block" ActiveMQ to do a 6, 7, 8 or whatever release). > >>>>> > >>>>> Sorry, but classic is something I don’t fully understand (maybe my > >>> French > >>>>> culture

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Apache ActiveMQ from "Classic" to "Leto" | Website update/polish

2021-03-19 Thread Bruce Snyder
mis as the next gen broker is because we have not been selling/messaging it this way to the user community. In the six years since HornetQ was donated, we have not published any plans for the community (i.e., on the website) describing the intended plan. I think this is due to the fact that most

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Apache ActiveMQ from "Classic" to "Leto" | Website update/polish

2021-03-19 Thread Christopher Shannon
not believe this will ever happen without significant push > back > >>>>> from > >>>>>>> the members of the community that do not want this to happen. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Over the past couple of years my

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Apache ActiveMQ from "Classic" to "Leto" | Website update/polish

2021-03-19 Thread Michael André Pearce
>>>>>>> between developers and users so why not just make Artemis its own TLP? >>>>> I >>>>>>> really see no benefit of operating under the same umbrella anymore (I >>>>>> guess >>>>>>> maybe if

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Apache ActiveMQ from "Classic" to "Leto" | Website update/polish

2021-03-19 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofre
umbrella anymore (I >>>>> guess >>>>>> maybe if you want to keep the branding) >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 10:57 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofre < >> j...@nanthrax.net >>>>> <mailto:j...@nanthrax.net>> &g

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Apache ActiveMQ from "Classic" to "Leto" | Website update/polish

2021-03-19 Thread Christopher Shannon
gt;>> don’t > >>>>> want to "block" ActiveMQ to do a 6, 7, 8 or whatever release). > >>>>> > >>>>> Sorry, but classic is something I don’t fully understand (maybe my > >>> French > >>>>> culture ;)

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Apache ActiveMQ from "Classic" to "Leto" | Website update/polish

2021-03-19 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofre
;>>>> Sorry, but classic is something I don’t fully understand (maybe my >>> French >>>>> culture ;)). I don’t see what’s "classic" (or maybe in term of >>> "previous" >>>>> or "older") is. Maybe "vintage"

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Apache ActiveMQ from "Classic" to "Leto" | Website update/polish

2021-03-19 Thread Jonathan Gallimore
erm of > > "previous" > > >> or "older") is. Maybe "vintage" (like classical music compare to house > > >> music) ;) ? > > >> > > >> And, anyway, nobody is using "classic": for the users I know, they use >

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Apache ActiveMQ from "Classic" to "Leto" | Website update/polish

2021-03-19 Thread Francois Papon
;>>> culture ;)). I don’t see what’s "classic" (or maybe in term of >>> "previous" >>>>> or "older") is. Maybe "vintage" (like classical music compare to house >>>>> music) ;) ? >>>>> >>>>

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Apache ActiveMQ from "Classic" to "Leto" | Website update/polish

2021-03-19 Thread Matt Pavlovich
ssic" (or maybe in term of >> "previous" >>>> or "older") is. Maybe "vintage" (like classical music compare to house >>>> music) ;) ? >>>> >>>> And, anyway, nobody is using "classic": for the users I know, the

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Apache ActiveMQ from "Classic" to "Leto" | Website update/polish

2021-03-19 Thread Atri Sharma
; or "older") is. Maybe "vintage" (like classical music compare to house > > >> music) ;) ? > > >> > > >> And, anyway, nobody is using "classic": for the users I know, they use > > >> ActiveMQ and Artemis (not ActiveMQ Clas

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Apache ActiveMQ from "Classic" to "Leto" | Website update/polish

2021-03-19 Thread Christopher Shannon
gt; >> > >> So, if you agree to have: > >> > >> http://activemq.apache.org/artemis <http://activemq.apache.org/artemis> > <http://activemq.apache.org/artemis <http://activemq.apache.org/artemis>> > >> http://activemq.apache.org/activemq &l

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Apache ActiveMQ from "Classic" to "Leto" | Website update/polish

2021-03-19 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofre
g/artemis <http://activemq.apache.org/artemis>> >> http://activemq.apache.org/activemq <http://activemq.apache.org/activemq> >> <http://activemq.apache.org/activemq <http://activemq.apache.org/activemq>> >> >> I think it’s even better than i

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Apache ActiveMQ from "Classic" to "Leto" | Website update/polish

2021-03-19 Thread Christopher Shannon
activemq <http://activemq.apache.org/activemq> > > I think it’s even better than introducing a new name, I agree. > > Then, I’m changing the proposal/question: agree to use activemq and > Artemis on website ? > > Regards > JB > > > Le 19 mars 2021 à 15:48, Bruc

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Apache ActiveMQ from "Classic" to "Leto" | Website update/polish

2021-03-19 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofre
you agree to have: http://activemq.apache.org/artemis <http://activemq.apache.org/artemis> http://activemq.apache.org/activemq <http://activemq.apache.org/activemq> I think it’s even better than introducing a new name, I agree. Then, I’m changing the proposal/question: agree to use activemq and Ar

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Apache ActiveMQ from "Classic" to "Leto" | Website update/polish

2021-03-19 Thread Bruce Snyder
xplain the intent behind this name via the website. Agreed, the Classic stream needs a major version bump before those incompatible changes are introduced. Do this and move forward with those incompatible changes. Bruce On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 8:29 AM Gary Tully wrote: > Hi JB, > I think &qu

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Apache ActiveMQ from "Classic" to "Leto" | Website update/polish

2021-03-19 Thread Gary Tully
Hi JB, I think "classic" is a good name precisely because of its meaning, it reflects its value and is a good way to differentiate on the website. But I don't think the classic stream should be limited in versioning. If for good reason (a new incompatible openwire version/stora

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Apache ActiveMQ from "Classic" to "Leto" | Website update/polish

2021-03-18 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofre
for much better performance than the existing ActiveMQ >architecture [1]. After ActiveMQ Apollo 1.0 was released the stated goal of >this project was for it to eventually be integrated with the mainline >ActiveMQ code-base and serve as its replacement [2]. This fact was >advert

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Apache ActiveMQ from "Classic" to "Leto" | Website update/polish

2021-03-18 Thread Tetreault, Lucas
ActiveMQ code-base and serve as its replacement [2]. This fact was advertised on the ActiveMQ website although there are no longer any references to that since the website was redesigned & updated a year or so ago. For whatever reason Apollo never acquired the critical mass nec

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Apache ActiveMQ from "Classic" to "Leto" | Website update/polish

2021-03-18 Thread Justin Bertram
th the mainline ActiveMQ code-base and serve as its replacement [2]. This fact was advertised on the ActiveMQ website although there are no longer any references to that since the website was redesigned & updated a year or so ago. For whatever reason Apollo never acquired the critical mass n

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Apache ActiveMQ from "Classic" to "Leto" | Website update/polish

2021-03-18 Thread Tetreault, Lucas
fied name. It means we would have: >> >> - Apache ActiveMQ Artemis >> - Apache ActiveMQ Leto >> >> IMHO, it’s two subprojects under the same "umbrella" (like we have Camel >> K, Camel Spring Boot, Camel Karaf, or Karaf runtime, Ka

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Apache ActiveMQ from "Classic" to "Leto" | Website update/polish

2021-03-18 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofre
good "naming/tagging". >> >> That’s why I’m proposing a new identified name. It means we would have: >> >> - Apache ActiveMQ Artemis >> - Apache ActiveMQ Leto >> >> IMHO, it’s two subprojects under the same "umbrella" (like we have Camel

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Apache ActiveMQ from "Classic" to "Leto" | Website update/polish

2021-03-18 Thread Justin Bertram
like we have Camel > K, Camel Spring Boot, Camel Karaf, or Karaf runtime, Karaf Decanter, Karaf > Cave, etc). > Each subproject deserves a clear naming. > > About the website, you got my point: I would like to get all wiki based > resources, update and clean it to push on

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Apache ActiveMQ from "Classic" to "Leto" | Website update/polish

2021-03-18 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofre
have Camel K, Camel Spring Boot, Camel Karaf, or Karaf runtime, Karaf Decanter, Karaf Cave, etc). Each subproject deserves a clear naming. About the website, you got my point: I would like to get all wiki based resources, update and clean it to push on a dedicated sub context of the website:

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Apache ActiveMQ from "Classic" to "Leto" | Website update/polish

2021-03-18 Thread Robbie Gemmell
al standpoint ;), Artemis is the Greek goddess of the hunt, the > wilderness, wild animals, the Moon, and chastity. Artemis is the daughter of > Zeus and Leto, and the twin sister of Apollo. > As "ActiveMQ Classic" is "older" than Artemis, I propose to rename as Apa

[PROPOSAL] Rename Apache ActiveMQ from "Classic" to "Leto" | Website update/polish

2021-03-18 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofre
che ActiveMQ Leto. This name change won’t impact the code repository, it’s more for the website. Related to that proposal, I would like to propose also to create a dedicated space for Leto: http://activemq.apache.org/leto <http://activemq.apache.org/leto> with a complete cleanup of th

Re: Website update, announcement, CVE

2021-02-10 Thread Robbie Gemmell
Yep, thanks again Lucas for that contribution (https://github.com/apache/activemq-website/pull/39). I was going to bring more attention to it here myself once I had related changes for adding a new Artemis release, which I now have. As a summary, to add a new broker release you will now create a

Re: Website update, announcement, CVE

2021-02-09 Thread Tetreault, Lucas
Hey folks, I'm late to the party but thought I would add my thanks for the work JB has done with the recent releases even if there have been some slip ups. For what it's worth, I noticed the process to update the website required updates in a handful of places and looked pretty e

Re: Website update, announcement, CVE

2021-02-05 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofre
If you dont arrange things with others and/or send mails indicating > you are going to do it, people are generally not going to expect they > are needed to assist with the relatively simple final tasks of the > release, or wont do it to avoid stepping on the original persons toes. > If you i

Re: Website update, announcement, CVE

2021-02-05 Thread Robbie Gemmell
lly not going to expect they are needed to assist with the relatively simple final tasks of the release, or wont do it to avoid stepping on the original persons toes. If you instead need help, ask for that rather than reassuing you are doing it, which likely only delays things further. I did update the web

Re: Website update, announcement, CVE

2021-02-05 Thread Christopher Shannon
; schedule I am going to chime in here and bring up the fact that I think > > that going forward as a project we need to do a much better job at > > completing the release process. Recently it seems that most releases are > > vastly delayed in having emails sent and the w

Re: Website update, announcement, CVE

2021-02-05 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofre
t going forward as a project we need to do a much better job at > completing the release process. Recently it seems that most releases are > vastly delayed in having emails sent and the website updated, etc. I've > done a ton of releases for 5.x and I know it's a bit of extra wor

Re: Website update, announcement, CVE

2021-02-05 Thread Christopher Shannon
having emails sent and the website updated, etc. I've done a ton of releases for 5.x and I know it's a bit of extra work to do things like update the site, CVE announcements, release announcements, etc but it's all part of doing a release. The process doesn't end when t

Re: Website update, announcement, CVE

2021-02-05 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofre
Hi, Let me check (I did it but maybe forgot to send ;)). I will fix that if it didn’t go. Regards JB > Le 5 févr. 2021 à 16:46, Timothy Bish a écrit : > > Did I miss the announcement going out? Seems like it should have been done > by now but I don't see it, although websi

Re: Website update, announcement, CVE

2021-02-05 Thread Timothy Bish
Did I miss the announcement going out? Seems like it should have been done by now but I don't see it, although website appears to but updated now. On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 8:44 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofre wrote: > Thanks Robbie, > > I was about to update website. Thanks for catchin

Re: [PROPOSAL] Regular releases pace and clean schedule on the website

2021-02-01 Thread Christopher Shannon
will try to sustain this schedule. > > > > As soon as we have a consensus, I will update the website with the > schedule/details. > > > > Regards > > JB > > > >> Le 29 janv. 2021 à 13:38, Christopher Shannon < > christopher.l.shan...@gmail.com>

Re: [PROPOSAL] Regular releases pace and clean schedule on the website

2021-01-29 Thread Matt Pavlovich
gt; So basically, a release per quarter is probably do-able. > > I will try to sustain this schedule. > > As soon as we have a consensus, I will update the website with the > schedule/details. > > Regards > JB > >> Le 29 janv. 2021 à 13:38, Christopher Shann

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