[marketing-dev] Re: ping

2011-05-18 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
On Thu, 2011-05-19, Ian Lynch wrote: > if we need 10m per year lets work out strategies to generate it. > +1 --Jean -- - To unsubscribe send email to dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands send email

[marketing-dev] Re: suggestion box? Re: OOoCon 2010 videos

2011-03-31 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
On Thu, 2011-03-31 at 16:32 -0700, Andy Brown wrote: > Joomi Lee wrote: > > My version doesn't do that. > > > Which version are you using? Which operating system, it may make a > difference. > > Andy And are you trying to print from Writer or one of the other components? How are you printing?

[marketing-dev] Re: suggestion box? Re: OOoCon 2010 videos

2011-03-29 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
On Tue, 2011-03-29 at 15:34 -0700, Joomi Lee wrote: > How do I subscribe to the suggestion box email list? I think the next > version of OpenOffice should allow the user to print a highlighted > selection. It does this already. --Jean -- --

Re: [marketing] Strategic Marketing Plan Call

2010-11-18 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Are the results of the Budapest discussion available? Recording, transcript, minutes, notes, anything? Might be useful info for people who were not there but would like to participate. --Jean Jean Hollis Weber Co-Lead, OpenOffice.org Documentation Project On Thu, 2010-11-18 at 16:23 +0100

Re: [marketing] Linux.conf.au ?

2010-10-13 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
On Wed, 2010-10-13, Alex Fisher wrote: > Since I live in (well, a one hour train ride from) Brisbane, I'll be thinking > of attending. And if someone better able than I cares to organise a stall, > I'll most certainly be available to help man it. > > Unfortunately, I'm not very experienced in or

[marketing] Linux.conf.au ?

2010-10-12 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Is anyone planning to attend Linux.conf.au in Brisbane, Australia next January? Specifically, is anyone planning to have a stall at the Open Day? I think Open Days (which are free for attendees) are an excellent way to reach current and potential users. I don't see anything listed for 2011 on the

Re: [marketing] Result: Logo for the 10th anniversary - request for approval

2010-10-07 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
On Wed, 2010-10-06, Alex Fisher wrote: > Secondly, "Libre Office"!? Come on! For a Francophone (and probably speakers > of the other Romance languages) the name might mean something. But to an > Anglophone, who is not "into" OSS, it conveys no meaning at all. The same > would apply to virtually

Re: [marketing] Personalized stamps - a possible marketing idea for our 10th anniversary?

2010-04-25 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Bernhard Dippold wrote: what do you think about creating a special kind of merchandising articles to be sold at fairs, on the OOoCon or even online (coming back to the idea of an OOo shop)? My idea derives from the possibility to design personalized stamps in several countries serving as of

[Marketing] Re: OpenDocument Foundation drops support for ODF

2007-11-03 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Ian Lynch wrote, > Open Document Foundation... Its members ... have a particular > view that is not held by too many others as far as I can tell. > Sort of makes a bit of a nonsense of the their title really. > They can't be an Open Document Foundation if they don't support > the Open Document fil

Re: [Marketing] WARNING: Do Not Install IBM Lotus Symphony (Beta)

2007-09-28 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Allen Pulsifer wrote: To all the OpenOffice users who might be interesting in trying out IBM Lotus Symphony (Beta): DO NOT INSTALL IBM Lotus Symphony (Beta) !!! I tried it out. It took over all of my OpenDoc file associations, without warning, and installed itself into a handful of other fi

Re: [Marketing] Return to the marketing

2007-09-27 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Please pardon the giant "snip" and a reply to only one point in Graham's note. I agree with all he said, but wanted to expand on one item. Graham Lauder wrote: We shouldn't be selling the software.[...] We need to be selling the migration process. Part of the support information for the mi

Re: [Marketing] Report Designer, Report Builder?

2007-09-24 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Cor Nouws wrote: Per Eriksson schreef: How is the new Report Builder used? Anyone got some basic experience? Just to get some feel for the tool. Well, pls see today's archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Not something that makes you feel better: the information for the not-experienced user seems to

[Marketing] Re: [marketing-events] Fwd: Call For Presentations - SCALE 6x

2007-09-14 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Of particular interest, given the marketing priorities we've identified for OOo2.3, is this: "... newly added for SCALE 6X is a Friday conference on education: “Open Source in Education” which focuses on opportunities for Open Source in the field of education." A natural for OpenOffice.org,

[Marketing] Article: Open-source strategy: Documentation = dollars

2007-09-14 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Interesting article: "Open-source strategy: Documentation = dollars", by Matt Asay http://blogs.cnet.com/8301-13505_1-9774567-16.html Here is a quote from the article: "People don't visit a software company's website to read about the executives. They visit the website to get information on the

[Marketing] Re: Our website

2007-08-22 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
I think the Documentation Project's revised first page does a good job of separating (on the one page) the material for contributors and the material for consumers/users (in the case of Marketing, the press, amongst others). And no, it wasn't me who designed the Docs page. ;-) http://documenta

Re: [Marketing] What's in the pipeline

2007-06-22 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
John McCreesh wrote: OpenOffice.org 3.0 timeline http://blogs.sun.com/GullFOSS/entry/openoffice_org_3_0_at Thanks, John! I must find time to read more about the new feature set. Hmmm... pardon my ignorance, but is "MS Office12" the same thing as "MS Office 2007", or something else? I get lost

[Marketing] Uploading images to the wiki (solved)

2007-05-31 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
The problem turned out to be the permissions on the source file. I changed the permissions and all is working now. Cheers, Jean Earlier, I wrote: I hope someone here can help me solve a problem I'm having with the OOo wiki. I tried to upload an image (.PNG), following the instructions in the

[Marketing] Uploading images to the wiki

2007-05-31 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
I hope someone here can help me solve a problem I'm having with the OOo wiki. I tried to upload an image (.PNG), following the instructions in the wiki help. The image uploaded (and displayed) only part of the file, although the image size (in pixels) was correctly reported and a box of that s

[Marketing] Marketing TODos page very out of date

2007-05-28 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
In preparation for a talk I'm giving about OOo, I started wandering around the Marketing Project's web pages, and noticed that the "How to Help" page says "last updated 12 November 2004" and the contact person is listed as Jacqueline McNally. Many items on the list look at first glance to be ol

[Marketing] Current "Why OOo" site

2007-03-03 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
When I enlarge the fonts on these pages big enough for me to read, the words to the right of the big "Great Software" graphic overwrite the row of little pictures below it. And is the large "Why OpenOffice.org" at the top supposed to be so pale that it's almost invisible? (Also the words "home

[Marketing] Vote for Dell to pre-install OOo

2007-02-22 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Would you like Dell (one of the largest computer sellers) to sell computers with OpenOffice.org pre-installed? Dell is struggling a bit, so it created an "Idea Storm" page to find out what users wanted. The #1 idea so far? Linux pre-installed. The request is to include options for the top-3 di

Re: [Marketing] Uzbekistan Linux Community

2006-08-26 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Rail Aliev wrote: About banner. I think it will be easier if you print a banner yourself using artwork published on Marketing Website [1]. At least it will be cheaper than sending you the same thing from another country. Not necessarily cheaper. I have found that having a banner printed (fr

[Marketing] Brilliant marketing campaign

2006-06-27 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
I've just seen the new "Why OpenOffice.org" page, after receiving the announcement about the "Take a Test Drive - Keep the Car!" campaign. I must say I think this is brilliant, and commend those who did it. Cheers, Jean - To

Re: [Marketing] Donating

2006-06-11 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Charles Schulz wrote: Jean Hollis Weber a écrit : eric b wrote: Since end 2005, I'm searching funds, hardware, developers (all are volunteers, and receive no money). Eric, please tell us how people who want to donate money to your Mac porting project can make a donation and be sure th

[Marketing] Donating (was: Taking an ad in NYC's free Metro newspaper)

2006-06-11 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
eric b wrote: Since end 2005, I'm searching funds, hardware, developers (all are volunteers, and receive no money). Eric, please tell us how people who want to donate money to your Mac porting project can make a donation and be sure that it is going to your project. I know only one way to se

Re: [Marketing] OpenOffice.org pins have to be re-ordered - anybody interested to join in?

2006-06-09 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Bernhard Dippold wrote: The germanophone project runs short of our OpenOffice.org pins and wants to re-order 1.000 more pins in this design: http://www.familie-dippold.de/Openoffice.org/pin_and_cufflinks.png I'm getting a "Not Found" on that URL. The "Openoffice.org" part seems to be the prob

Re: [Marketing] Fera Tech partnership

2006-06-05 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
André Wyrwa wrote: Quick user guides which list any differences over Office for new users. Glad you mention that. I felt the need for something like that as well. I know there are some migration guides, but the ones I've run into so far are rather more or less incomplete personal experiences.

[Marketing] Revised Guidelines for Participation?

2006-05-29 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
When are the revised Guidelines for Participation going to be up on the main OOo website? The link from the About Us page still points to the old guidelines, which do not include the new section on Commercial Activity. Given that the links to the printed copies of the OOoAuthors books (a majo

Re: [Marketing] OOo 2.0.3 features - list with short descriptions

2006-05-29 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Cor Nouws wrote: As a result of the work of and with Sophie, I've once again composed the list with short descriptions of new features. It can be found at: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Marketing-PR-OOo2.0.3 Also there is the link to the document with full information. Thank you,

Re: [Marketing] The missing ".org" again

2006-05-28 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Support wrote: Perhaps that was a bit strong and it was not directed at anyone personally but was written towards the Marketing Project in general out of frustration. Yes, I am disappointed and frustrated. I also watched a lot of things happen here during the last year. The best thing that happe

Re: [Marketing] OpenOffice slow, bloated?

2006-05-23 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Alexandro Colorado wrote: As mentioned by someone earlier today, those ads were not for Abiword. They were for some other program. --Jean Oh I thought it was AbiWord, would be interesting to see which program was that. I was under the impression it was abiword. My bad. I just looked in

Re: [Marketing] OpenOffice slow, bloated?

2006-05-23 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Alexandro Colorado wrote: Really is our fault for not doing much 'think out of the box' like the folks from abiword. For all our google links we could have had some campaigns up on Google ads. We did, at one point, a couple of years ago. A unnamed donor enabled us to have a slew of ads fo

Re: [Marketing] OpenOffice slow, bloated?

2006-05-22 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Daniel Carrera wrote: Cor Nouws wrote: Even on a new computer, using the latest version, when I start OOo I can go to the kitchen, get a drink and come back just when the application is loading. You must be joking here. Or you mean a 'kitchen' right on your desk and with a very small cup t

Re: [Marketing] New/changed features in OOo 2.0.3?

2006-05-17 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Finn Gruwier Larsen wrote: Louis Suarez-Potts skrev: Keep posted on releases@ for more info on the status of 2.0.3 and the usual release notes. Which project does that list belong to? There doesn't seem to be a [EMAIL PROTECTED] list. It's releases@openoffice.org Subscribe in the usual w

Re: [Marketing] New/changed features in OOo 2.0.3?

2006-05-16 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: I can't find a list of the new or changed features in the forthcoming 2.0.3 release. Can someone point me to the right place? Thanks for any help you can give me. The RC for 2.0.3 is not ready yet so my understanding is that things are not entirely settled or if t

[Marketing] New/changed features in OOo 2.0.3?

2006-05-16 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
I can't find a list of the new or changed features in the forthcoming 2.0.3 release. Can someone point me to the right place? Thanks for any help you can give me. --Jean - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For addition

Re: [Marketing] new lead

2006-05-15 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Jacqueline McNally wrote: I would like to propose John McCreesh as the new Marketing Project Lead. John has made a huge contribution to the project prior and during his role as Co-Lead. Contributing to the website content and infrastructure, drafting and editing the Strategic Marketing Plan, and

[Marketing] 15 reasons why Microsoft will fail

2006-05-14 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
http://toorg.blogspot.com/ Two of the reasons listed are OpenOffice.org and the OpenDocument format. :-) Cheers, Jean - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Marketing] A suggstion

2006-05-05 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: Rajagopal Iyer wrote: A humble suggestion: How about "get legal - get openoffice" as bumper stickers and distribute it in malls? It's a fine suggestion (not sure about mails...) [...] As to distributing it in the mail: that's pretty expensive. Easier and possibly

Re: [Marketing] Migration Documents

2006-05-05 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: Sorry for the cross post; please respond on [EMAIL PROTECTED] lang.openoffice.org. I would like to propose that we compile a single repository for all material related to migrating to OpenOffice.org from MS Office. Right now, we have lots of great stuff but it's a

Re: [Marketing] Sightings of "Get Legal"

2006-05-05 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Jacqueline McNally wrote: Lars D. Noodén wrote: Proper nouns are capitalised and not everyone agrees that the internet is a proper noun. The name "the Internet" has been a proper noun as long as I've been aware of it. There is a difference between *an* internet and *the* Internet. Plea

[Marketing] Comment on "get legal" from a techwriter

2006-05-04 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
I posted a link to the "get legal" campaign on a Technical Writers' list. Here is one response. -- Jean "A poll has indicated 86% of users would prefer to try OpenOffice.org 2 rather than buy MS-Office 2007." But the link is to an Australian online survey about Office 2003. "Studies have shown

Re: [Marketing] Can marketing processes be too open - the LWN story

2006-05-04 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Jacqueline McNally wrote: John McCreesh wrote: [...] I think it's worth a discussion (both here and in LWN) about how we proceed in future. I suspect there may not be a lot of discussion on this until the 11 May. I was going to ask "what is the significance of 11 May?" but then I saw the

Re: [Marketing] ISO 26300 Label

2006-05-03 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Ian Lynch wrote: Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: Ian Lynch wrote: +1 Let's publicise this on every list we are on. What do you mean every list we are on? Well, I'm on a lot of other lists, I assume other people are too. I posted to Schoolforge UK and some Usenet groups I subscribe to. Viral mark

Re: [Marketing] Get Legal - draft message

2006-04-30 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Cristian Driga wrote: John McCreesh wrote: Comments please on http://why.openoffice.org/get_legal.html Some more suggestions for the campaign: [...] +1 to Cristian's suggestions. --Jean - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL

[Marketing] Report on OOo demo to writers etc

2006-04-30 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Apologies for the lateness of this report. Before Easter I mentioned that I was going to be demonstrating OOo to some writers, editors, and publishers at a science-fiction convention in Australia. As often happens, things didn't work out quite as planned. Despite that, I am quite happy with t

Re: [Marketing] Get legal - get OpenOffice.org

2006-04-29 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Bernhard Dippold wrote: I answered on [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrt my next drafts on http://familie-dippold.de/OpenOffice.org/proposals_for_get_legal_button.html I prefer the second one, but with "get legal!" in lower case, not all caps. --Jean ---

[Marketing] Report on OOo at LinuxWorld

2006-04-10 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
From Tina Gasperson's "LinuxWorld expo wrapup" report on 7 April, http://business.newsforge.com/business/06/04/06/1734213.shtml?tid=18 The most enthusiastic "booth being" at the show was OpenOffice.org's Louis Suarez-Potts. He was practically jumping up and down as he talked to me about the impo

Re: [Marketing] OOo at LWE: Thanks!

2006-04-07 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Glad to hear LWE was such a success, with so many great contributions from different people around the world and good contacts made. Did someone take photos of the booth? --Jean Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: LinuxWorld Expo Boston ended yesterday night and it was from our perspective quite a s

Re: [Marketing] Promoting OOo to authors, editors, publishers

2006-04-04 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Jean Hollis Weber wrote: I think the mention of "create PDFs with the need for a separate program" is what really got his attention. :-) That should, of course, read "create PDFs *without* the need for a separate program". I got it right in my email to the organiser, at

Re: [Marketing] Promoting OOo to authors, editors, publishers

2006-04-04 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
e of how people can use their professional peer networks as a marketing opportunity. Is your focus on getting them to use OOo in their own organisations, or on getting them to publish articles, books, etc on OOo (and/or including CDs)? John On Tue, April 4, 2006 09:15, Jean Hollis Weber wrot

[Marketing] Promoting OOo to authors, editors, publishers

2006-04-03 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
A slightly different approach to reaching potential end-users... I will be demonstrating OOo at a series of publishing workshops at the Australian national science fiction convention at Easter in Brisbane. Attendees include writers, editors and publishers (both professional and wannabees). I'l

Re: [Marketing] Need Ideas...

2006-03-22 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
There is a list on the web page mentioned in the announcement. You have to scroll down aways to find it. --Jean Daniel Carrera wrote: Who is in the judging pannel? Daniel. Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: You may have noticed we have a running competition for developer articles. [snip] Detaile

Re: [Marketing] LWE Boston

2006-03-10 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: On 2006-03-10, at 16:18 , Jean Hollis Weber wrote: Please refer to my note on marketing-events dated 23 Feb in which I made some suggestions regarding books for display (and sale, if allowed) at LWE Boston. I saw it... and sure. Books are good. I was just

Re: [Marketing] LWE Boston

2006-03-10 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: LWE Boston approacheth. ... I also need help with printing collateral and other things (be creative) If you can help out, in whatever capacity, let's talk on [EMAIL PROTECTED] LWE Boston is 4-6 April, so, yes, I'm running late in organizing some things. Again,

Re: [Marketing] making MarCons' life easier

2006-03-09 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Jacqueline McNally wrote: At its 11 Jan 2006 meeting, the Community Council (CC) considered a number of issues raised by Ian Lynch and Adam Moore regarding Ryan Singer's demotion from MarCon. The CC resolved that the Marketing Project (MP) leads should lead a discussion on this list and attempt t

Re: [Marketing] new download page (again)

2006-03-08 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
I've just noticed something else. The "Select your operating system" dropdown list includes FreeBSD, but if I go to the System Requirements page, http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/source/sys_reqs_20.html, there is nothing listed there for FreeBSD. --Jean

Re: [Marketing] new download page

2006-03-08 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: If you've tried to download OpenOffice.org 2.0.2 (you know, the one with the magical dictionaries), you may have noticed a new download page. And if you did, you'll have noticed how clean, how nice, how usable it is. [snip] We'll continue to update and enhance it

Re: [Marketing] Some Office 2007 news

2006-02-28 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Steven Shelton wrote: RealGrouchy (CAM) wrote: Thanks for sending this Jeffrey. More importantly, thanks for summarizing it! I think the best selling point for OOo as compared to this is that you don't have to worry if you got the right one or not. You get the whole thing, install what you wa

Re: [Marketing] Template to help with website development created

2006-02-23 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
RealGrouchy (CAM) wrote: I have created a template at [[Template:Dummy]] for help in tracking differences between the wiki versions of website pages and the most recent version on the website. Instructions and more details are available at http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Template_talk:Du

Re: [Marketing] Additions to Support page on OOo Website

2006-02-23 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Cristian Driga wrote: For filing the issue, the component is website and after you login you go to this address: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/enter_bug.cgi?component=website&issue_type=TASK Thank you. It's incredibly frustrating to want to contribute but have to spend so much effort to

[Marketing] Additions to Support page on OOo Website

2006-02-23 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
This probably isn't the right list for this topic, but perhaps someone can answer my question, direct me to the right place, or just take care of the problem. The Books section of this page http://support.openoffice.org/ is very out of date, as it includes none of the third-party books on OOo

Re: [Marketing] Vote about official OpenOffice.org OEM label

2006-02-20 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Bernhard Dippold wrote: in the art project we designed different proposals for OEM labels that should be sticked on PCs delivered with OpenOffice.org. To come to an "officially approved" label I'd like to ask you to vote on these labels (otherwise the 4 or 5 active people at the art project woul

Re: [Marketing] Vote about official OpenOffice.org OEM label

2006-02-20 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Daniel Carrera wrote: Next time I strongly suggest "approval voting". That is, people get to give a +1 to as many choices as they want. This is, arguably, the best voting system invented. It is very "fair" and mostly devoid of strategy. +1 to approval voting in future. I never realised that v

Re: [Marketing] URGENT: MP Wiki pages naming and basic rules

2006-02-09 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Steven Pauwels wrote: [...] Draft Staging Testing Incubator -- - Chad Smith http://www.gimpshop.net/ Because everyone loves free software! +1 on drafts +1 for Draft --Jean - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fo

Re: [Marketing] URGENT: MP Wiki pages naming and basic rules

2006-02-09 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Cor Nouws wrote: Furthermore, I think the to-do's can be seen in two way's - tasks to be finished (lots) - stuff to be used (such as 'Marketing-PR-OOo2.0.2') If that's correct, I would suggest to add a category 'Ready for you to use' or something similar. +1 to Cor's suggestion. If things ar

Re: [Marketing] Marketing Wiki Sections

2006-02-05 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Cristian Driga wrote: Hi Jean, Jean Hollis Weber wrote: Cristian Driga wrote: I have created a section in the MP wiki homepage named Incubator: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Marketing--Icubator I hate to say this, but you spelled "Incubator" wrong in the name of th

Re: [Marketing] Marketing Wiki Sections

2006-02-05 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Cristian Driga wrote: I have created a section in the MP wiki homepage named Incubator: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Marketing--Icubator I hate to say this, but you spelled "Incubator" wrong in the name of that page. I would fix it, but I don't know how. --Jean -

Re: [Marketing] OOo - where should it go...

2006-02-05 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
John McCreesh wrote: On Sun, 2006-02-05 at 21:27 +1000, Jean Hollis Weber wrote: Maybe you could put something on the Marketing Project's home page that leads people to the Marketing page on the wiki? Will do once as soon as there's some content there ;-) I thought the wiki w

Re: [Marketing] OOo - where should it go...

2006-02-05 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
John McCreesh wrote: I'm more than happy to test if the wiki works as a home for the MP Good on ya, John! Maybe you could put something on the Marketing Project's home page that leads people to the Marketing page on the wiki? Cheers, Jean --

[Marketing] Broken link on Marketing home page

2006-02-05 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Yeah, I know, I should probably file an issue, but this is such a classic example of what I've been saying about taking longer to file an issue (or write this note) than it would to fix the problem... In the "Events" section of the Marketing Project's home page is the sentence "Further confer

Re: [Marketing] OOo - where should it go...

2006-02-04 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: * As Jean just said, only a very few people can modify the MP site. Have people asked or volunteered? As I said in an earlier note, I volunteered on at least 2 occasions and was told "no". Frankly, I am quite tired of your endless complaining. From my perspecti

Re: [Marketing] OOo - where should it go...

2006-02-04 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Daniel Carrera wrote: Requiring IZ and CVS is a *huge* barrier. A related problem is that the policy at OOo, including Marketing, appears to be to allow only a very few people to have commit access through CVS. On at least two occasions during 2005 (after I finally got my SSH/CVS access wo

Re: [Marketing] OOo - where should it go...

2006-02-04 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Earlier, I wrote: I'm spending so much time talking about this (when I should be doing more urgent things), I might as well pop over to the wiki and change the main page myself, right now, today. I've now made a relatively small change to the main page of the wiki, but I think it makes a huge

Re: [Marketing] OOo - where should it go...

2006-02-04 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Chad Smith wrote: Cristian Driga wrote: Filling the pages up should be according to an agreed plan. I sort of agree, but I think the "agreed plan" angle is part of the problem. People talk about doing something for so long that no one can agree on how to do it. I completely agree, Chad: yo

Re: [Marketing] OOo - where should it go...

2006-02-04 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Cristian Driga wrote: Chad Smith wrote: How about this? http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Marketing Thanks for creating that page. That's the easy part and I see you got it through. Let's how this can be better put to use and for this let's first have constructive discussions on it

Re: [Marketing] OOo - where should it go...

2006-02-04 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Chad Smith wrote: Jean Hollis Weber wrote: Who should we talk with about changing the first page of the wiki to be more general, and putting the "Getting stated with OOo development" stuff on a separate page? Yes, I know someone can just make that change, but as it's a realati

Re: [Marketing] OOo - where should it go...

2006-02-04 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Cristian Driga wrote: Just an opinion: I think we should first create a good usage case on the Marketing Project before going to other projects. What do you think ? Sure, but IMO the first page of the wiki (Main_Page) should be changed ASAP to indicate that the wiki is for more than developer

Re: [Marketing] OOo - where should it go...

2006-02-04 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
So the first step is for someone to amend and extend the wiki. I won't have a chance to contribute to this effort for at least a month, because I'm going to be travelling again and am very unlikely to have much opportunity to do more than receive and send email. Regards, Jean Jean Hollis

[Marketing] Bank account

2006-02-02 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Clearly this covers providing support to OpenOffice.org. More information is on this page and others linked from it: http://friendsofopendocument.org/about.htm I am happy to answer any questions about the organisation that anyone may have. Regards, Jean Jean Hollis Weber Secretary/Treasurer

Re: [Marketing] LCA 2006 report

2006-02-02 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Daniel Carrera wrote: ... the OpenDocument Fellowship has been through this. We started out with a company limited by guarantee in Australia (Jean's Friends of OpenDocument) which stills handles our finnances. Minor correction: Friends of OpenDocument Inc (FoOD) is not a company limited by g

Re: [Marketing] OOo Home Page deficiencies

2006-01-30 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
John McCreesh wrote: How did you find the http://www.openoffice.org/product/reqts.html page? If you click the "multiplatform" link in the first paragraph on the OOo home page, that is the page you go to. I think it's left over from version 1. If you look at any of the v2.0 product pages - e

[Marketing] Typo on "Goals and Objectives" page

2006-01-29 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
John McCreesh wrote: There are some diagrams which try to illustrate this in the SMP at http://ooosmp.homelinux.org/GoalsandObjectives/MarketingProject John, you might like to fix the typo (missing space) in the heading of that page, which says "Goalsand Objectives". Cheers, Jean -

Re: [Marketing] OOo Home Page deficiencies

2006-01-29 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: I added more of an obvious link to the product page system requirements (http://www.openoffice.org/product/reqts.html) which won't be published for a few more minutes, to the 2.01 download page, where I clarified the installation instructions for Mac OS X, and then

[Marketing] OOo Home Page deficiencies

2006-01-29 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
I just had an interesting exchange with someone who I assume saw the "Flash" on the OOo home page about OOo for Mac-Intel and asked on the users list if we anticipate developing a version to be compatible with Macs that do not have the Intel chip?" Of course I responded that we have such a vers

Re: [Marketing] [Mac OS X port] OpenOffice.org works on Mac Intel

2006-01-24 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: I took the liberty of drafting this quick account for the homepage (of OOo). It's not a press release, which I can also draft (on [EMAIL PROTECTED]), but will at least alert people. I need to add the right *robust* urls, for the Mac page and for the downloads. Fl

Re: [Marketing] events: WAS press releases...

2006-01-24 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: ...I'd like to propose the following events in North America that we *should* go to. Other events that are, say, local to you, you should feel free to raise The most immediate: ** Southern California Linux Expo (SCALE) Feb 11-12 2006 Los Angeles http://www.soca

Re: [Marketing] Goodbye and Good Luck

2006-01-04 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Daniel Carrera wrote: Personally I think that Jacqueline should state the reasons for sacking Ryan. Other project volunteers need to know know what actions can lead to dismissal. The MarCons would be especially interested. +1 --Jean ---

Re: [Marketing] Will OOo be at SCALE 4x?

2006-01-04 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: On 1/2/06 1:03 AM Jean Hollis Weber wrote: Has a decision been made about whether OOo will have a booth at SCALE 4x in LA Feb 11-12? Sort of. AFAIK, there is no money involved from OOo to go there. I tend to think this conference has wider appeal than the DLS

[Marketing] Will OOo be at SCALE 4x?

2006-01-01 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Has a decision been made about whether OOo will have a booth at SCALE 4x in LA Feb 11-12? Jean - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Marketing] Goodbye and Good Luck

2005-12-20 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Jacqueline McNally wrote: By posting to this public list you have removed the opportunity for Ryan to step down in good grace. I asked Ryan before I posted my note if it was okay with him for me to do so, and he agreed that the real reason should be known. I would not have posted in public othe

Re: [Marketing] Goodbye and Good Luck

2005-12-20 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Ryan Singer wrote, > it greatly pains and disappoints me to say that it is time for > me to leave this community. I have always tried to do well by > the project, but it seems that my efforts are no longer > appreciated. I think that if this project is to survive as > more than a facade in front

Re: [Marketing] ?MS Office detection of OOo

2005-12-19 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
I have a fairly new (6 month old) laptop that came with Microsoft Works 7 installed on WindowsXP. I have never used, or even opened, any of the programs in Works on this machine, but after reading the note below I fired up the "Works Word Processor" to see what I could learn. It looks like Word

Re: [Marketing] OOo and ODF - a marketing theme? / MarCons on fairs

2005-12-18 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Daniel Carrera wrote: Bernhard Dippold wrote: And I try to copy it to a more general (perhaps standard?) procedure: - If a MarCon decides to assist a fair he/she is trusted to do so just representing OpenOffice.org whatever different position he/she holds besides OOo. - He/she may announce

Re: [Marketing] OOo and ODF - a marketing theme? / MarCons on fairs

2005-12-16 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Jacqueline McNally wrote: I see no point in responding to the antagonism, sarcasm and caustic tone in the previous post. Which previous post? Surely not the one from Daniel that you quoted at the bottom of your note, nor the previous one in the thread, which was from Ryan Singer. I can see n

Re: [Marketing] The "org" extension to OpenOffice.org

2005-12-11 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Ian Lynch wrote: Jean Hollis Weber wrote: Whether any of that means we should change the name of the product is a different question. But the arguments for keeping the "org" don't impress me at all. The main argument is really that its too trivial an issue to waste any resour

Re: [Marketing] The "org" extension to OpenOffice.org

2005-12-10 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
I agree with those who said on this thread that the "org" extension is awkward and adds no value to the name of the product, for all the reasons that Shelton, Daniel, Chad and others have mentioned. Almost no one other than a few geeks understands, or cares a whit about, the significance of "or

Re: [Marketing] Re: Re: Writely supports OpenDocument

2005-11-30 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Andrew Brown wrote: "Alexandro Colorado" wrote: Maybe is me, but I havent got any issues on line numbering. The actual improvement is that you can put line numbering inside the table cells. OK -- so only 47 outstanding open defects have "Outline Numbering" in their description... http:/

Re: [Marketing] Fwd: OpenDocument is a choice that let's you choose.

2005-11-10 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
From: Lars D. Nood?n To: dev@marketing.openoffice.org Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 07:25:27 -0500 (EST) Subject: OpenDocument is a choice that let's you choose. David's article is just fantastic. There's a lot of material there. One thing that jumped out at me that I'd like to highlight was the phras

Re: [Marketing] Demand OpenDocument! Sign the petition.

2005-10-21 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Steven Shelton wrote: I saw this on Jean Hollis Weber's blog at O'Reilly and I referenced it in my blog (although I couldn't trackback to it because I couldn't find a trackback URL on her page). What's a trackback URL? The URL for the blog entry is http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/wlg/8154 Th

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