On Wednesday, 18 September 2013 at 05:23:03 UTC, Walter Bright
wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/OnMc8HO.jpg
Today I learned that
mixin("*msg.base." ~ member ~ "_assign")(msg, value);
is valid D syntax.
On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 22:23:03 -0700, Walter Bright
wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/OnMc8HO.jpg
+1
+1000
+100
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IRC: LightBender
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The Horizon Project
http://www.thehorizonproject.org/
Besides, we aren't on 300 baud serial lines!
As backup line I have 56k dial-up modem ;)
We still trolling each other about IDE ?) Or Win 8.1 UI is the
best UI?
http://i.imgur.com/OnMc8HO.jpg
On Wednesday, 18 September 2013 at 00:47:09 UTC, Manu wrote:
Mint15... Link me? I can't find it.
Mint is Debian/Ubuntu based so you should look at PPA mentioned
above:
If you're on some sort of ubuntu variant:
https://launchpad.net/~keks9n/+archive/monodevelop-latest
On Tuesday, 17 September 2013 at 17:01:55 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
Actually, that gives me an idea. What if, instead of defaulting
to character data, the terminal input stream defaults to control
structures?
hehe those who don't understand Windows are doomed to reinvent it
:) :) :)
the lengt
On 18 September 2013 00:40, Dicebot wrote:
> On Tuesday, 17 September 2013 at 14:20:03 UTC, Manu wrote:
>
>> Can any linux MonoDevelop user enlighten me on how to use MonoDevelop4 on
>> linux? I couldn't find a package for it anywhere... only MD3. It seems
>> linux MD is way behind... no idea why
On 18 September 2013 00:35, Joseph Rushton Wakeling <
joseph.wakel...@webdrake.net> wrote:
> On 17/09/13 16:19, Manu wrote:
>
>> I had some experience with kdevelop this past weekend trying to find a
>> reasonable working environment on linux. It's fairly nice. Certainly come
>> along
>> since I l
On Tuesday, 17 September 2013 at 19:22:00 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev
wrote:
That looks like linker output, and thus not a problem with the
D toolchain. I guess that the linker you're using also has a
suggestion feature. A quick Google tells me you're using a Mac?
I'm so used to D suggesting symbo
On Wednesday, 11 September 2013 at 15:02:00 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
std.d.lexer is standard module for lexing D code, written by
Brian Schott
Brian, have you got any plans to write common lexer/parser
generator based on context-free grammar (CFG) or parsing
expression grammar (PEG), not only for
On Tuesday, 17 September 2013 at 20:14:36 UTC, Brian Schott wrote:
I've been busy with things that aren't D-related recently, but
I should have time the rest of this week to address the lexer.
Ok, please notify me then once you feel ready for voting / extra
review ( public at dicebot.lv )
Th
On Monday, 16 September 2013 at 17:08:38 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 06:49:01PM +0200, Vladimir Panteleev
wrote:
On Monday, 16 September 2013 at 16:44:56 UTC, Andrei
Alexandrescu
wrote:
>I don't find disagreement with what I said.
>[...]
>Nice, but what I see here is "differe
On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 12:20:21PM -0700, Walter Bright wrote:
> On 9/17/2013 12:08 PM, H. S. Teoh wrote:
> >Please file a bug at: http://d.puremagic.com/issues/
>
> That isn't going to help, as the clang linker devs don't look there.
lol... that will teach me to reply before reading more careful
On Tuesday, 17 September 2013 at 19:09:22 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 09:02:43PM +0200,
digitalmars-d-boun...@puremagic.com wrote:
Maybe we should tweak the symbol suggestion algorithm :-)
extern(C) void f();
void main()
{
f();
}
$ dmd test.d (v2.063
On Tuesday, 17 September 2013 at 16:48:44 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
On Tuesday, 17 September 2013 at 16:34:01 UTC, deadalnix wrote:
On Tuesday, 17 September 2013 at 15:31:00 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
Discussion has slowed down and thread is fading away.
I personally have not noticed any crucial objections
On Tuesday, 17 September 2013 at 19:02:44 UTC, Luís Marques wrote:
Maybe we should tweak the symbol suggestion algorithm :-)
That looks like linker output, and thus not a problem with the D
toolchain. I guess that the linker you're using also has a
suggestion feature. A quick Google tells me
On 9/17/2013 12:08 PM, H. S. Teoh wrote:
Please file a bug at: http://d.puremagic.com/issues/
That isn't going to help, as the clang linker devs don't look there.
Maybe we should tweak the symbol suggestion algorithm :-)
extern(C) void f();
void main()
{
f();
}
$ dmd test.d (v2.063.2)
Undefined symbols for architecture x86_64:
"_f", referenced from:
__Dmain in test.o
(maybe you meant:
_D17src/object_.d.80815__unittes
On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 09:02:43PM +0200, digitalmars-d-boun...@puremagic.com
wrote:
> Maybe we should tweak the symbol suggestion algorithm :-)
>
> extern(C) void f();
>
> void main()
> {
> f();
> }
>
> $ dmd test.d (v2.063.2)
> Undefined symbols for architecture x86_64
On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 17:15:12 +0200, Bruno Medeiros
wrote:
That said, I do agree that Eclipse is generally slower than Visual
Studio. Eclipse (and most existing plugins) are almost entirely
Java-based, which has some JIT and GC overheards. Whereas VS is done in
C++ and C# (I'm guessing a
On Tuesday, 17 September 2013 at 14:20:03 UTC, Manu wrote:
On 17 September 2013 23:46, Bruno Medeiros
wrote:
On 17/09/2013 07:24, Manu wrote:
I closed about half my open tabs after my last email
(~50 left
open). Down
to 93mb. You must all use some heavy plugins or
Gabe Newell recently stated that Valve are currently developing a
new debugger for Linux in addition to helping out with LLDB.
Hopefully this will be good news for D as currently the options
are very limited regarding debuggers. I'm hoping it has a nice
GUI offering... we shall see.
Comments
On Tuesday, 17 September 2013 at 15:31:00 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
Discussion has slowed down and thread is fading away.
I personally have not noticed any crucial objections (ones that
can't be figured out during normal pull request review
process). Brian, what is your state on this? Is there somet
(After traveling on Sunday and Monday, and after wondering why people
still argue with me after I'd sent the message below, I opened my laptop
to find it, still unsent, in Drafts. I must have forgotten to send it,
or sending failed... sorry.)
On 9/16/13 10:07 AM, H. S. Teoh wrote:
I can attes
On Friday, 23 August 2013 at 20:11:38 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 12:41:45PM -0700, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
[...]
(Just hanging this to a random comment in this thread.) I think
there's some pretty good work on logging by myself and another
poster (Jose?) that has since go
On Tuesday, 17 September 2013 at 16:34:01 UTC, deadalnix wrote:
On Tuesday, 17 September 2013 at 15:31:00 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
Discussion has slowed down and thread is fading away.
I personally have not noticed any crucial objections (ones
that can't be figured out during normal pull request re
On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 04:25:50AM +0200, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
> On Tuesday, 17 September 2013 at 01:59:42 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
[...]
> >Heh. I was on the other extreme... I reinvented everything from
> >the square wheel to the triangular peg in the round hole.
>
> Oh, I've done my share of that
Discussion has slowed down and thread is fading away.
I personally have not noticed any crucial objections (ones that
can't be figured out during normal pull request review process).
Brian, what is your state on this? Is there something you want to
add/change before the voting gets initiated?
On 17/09/2013 15:48, eles wrote:
On Monday, 16 September 2013 at 15:52:26 UTC, Bruno Medeiros
wrote:
On 13/09/2013 08:46, eles wrote:
On Saturday, 7 September 2013 at 19:05:03 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
It's not clear to me what any of these measures would help with.
Glad that you answered.
On 17 September 2013 10:52, Iain Buclaw wrote:
> I've implemented this in gdc.
>
> https://github.com/D-Programming-GDC/GDC/commit/021dda8feaba282fec60600729ba8abc2c64cf81
>
>
Now done the same for manifest constants.
https://github.com/D-Programming-GDC/GDC/commit/6b40c481068530374abb0819b80c7d
On 17/09/2013 15:33, PauloPinto wrote:
On Tuesday, 17 September 2013 at 13:46:43 UTC, Bruno Medeiros wrote:
On 17/09/2013 07:24, Manu wrote:
I closed about half my open tabs after my last email (~50 left
open). Down
to 93mb. You must all use some heavy plugins or something
I asked about a library with high-precision doubles 3 weeks ago.
Now I find std.decimal module at the Review Queue page:
https://github.com/andersonpd/decimal
The author is Paul D. Anderson. Last commit was 4 months ago.
It's interesting to know a current project state.
On 17/09/2013 15:19, Manu wrote:
On 17 September 2013 23:46, Bruno Medeiros
mailto:brunodomedeiros+...@gmail.com>>
wrote:
On 17/09/2013 07:24, Manu wrote:
I closed about half my open tabs after my last email
(~50 left
open). Down
t
On Monday, 16 September 2013 at 15:52:26 UTC, Bruno Medeiros
wrote:
On 13/09/2013 08:46, eles wrote:
On Saturday, 7 September 2013 at 19:05:03 UTC, Walter Bright
wrote:
It's not clear to me what any of these measures would help with.
Glad that you answered.
It will help with:
1) people alre
On Tuesday, 17 September 2013 at 14:20:03 UTC, Manu wrote:
Can any linux MonoDevelop user enlighten me on how to use
MonoDevelop4 on
linux? I couldn't find a package for it anywhere... only MD3.
It seems
linux MD is way behind... no idea why.
Your distro? It is 4.0.12 in Arch Linux official r
On Tuesday, 17 September 2013 at 13:46:43 UTC, Bruno Medeiros
wrote:
On 17/09/2013 07:24, Manu wrote:
I closed about half my open tabs after my last email
(~50 left
open). Down
to 93mb. You must all use some heavy plugins or
something.
My current solution has 10 p
On Tuesday, 17 September 2013 at 14:30:12 UTC, PauloPinto wrote:
On Tuesday, 17 September 2013 at 14:26:59 UTC, deadalnix wrote:
On Tuesday, 17 September 2013 at 12:56:56 UTC, PauloPinto
wrote:
And people are still working on new way to packages stuff.
What a waste of everybody's time ! Meanwhi
On Tuesday, 17 September 2013 at 14:26:59 UTC, deadalnix wrote:
On Tuesday, 17 September 2013 at 12:56:56 UTC, PauloPinto wrote:
And people are still working on new way to packages stuff.
What a waste of everybody's time ! Meanwhile, windows do not
have any packaging system, and that even worse
On 17/09/13 16:19, Manu wrote:
I had some experience with kdevelop this past weekend trying to find a
reasonable working environment on linux. It's fairly nice. Certainly come along
since I last tried to take it seriously a year or 2 back.
It would be nice if there was D support though. It has ru
On Tuesday, 17 September 2013 at 12:56:56 UTC, PauloPinto wrote:
And people are still working on new way to packages stuff.
What a waste of everybody's time ! Meanwhile, windows do not
have any packaging system, and that even worse :D
It is called MSI, blame bad companies for still using exe
On Tuesday, 17 September 2013 at 13:59:05 UTC, Luís Marques wrote:
So I guess it's more subtle than that.
I meant it didn't have to do with extern(C).
On 17 September 2013 23:46, Bruno Medeiros wrote:
> On 17/09/2013 07:24, Manu wrote:
>
>>
>> I closed about half my open tabs after my last email (~50 left
>> open). Down
>> to 93mb. You must all use some heavy plugins or something.
>> My current solution has 10 pro
On Tuesday, 17 September 2013 at 13:50:20 UTC, John Colvin wrote:
It used to be that templates and normal functions couldn't
overload each other, now they can. I'm not sure when the change
was made, it might only be in git master.
Ah, OK! I said nevermind because the following works (on 2.063.
On Tuesday, 17 September 2013 at 13:36:24 UTC, Luís Marques wrote:
This works:
extern(C) alias F = void function();
alias G = void function();
void foo(F f) {}
void foo(G g) {}
Indeed, the correct foo is called, depending on whether the
passed function is extern(C) o
Nevermind. Lack of sleep --;;
:-)
On 17/09/2013 07:24, Manu wrote:
I closed about half my open tabs after my last email (~50 left
open). Down
to 93mb. You must all use some heavy plugins or something.
My current solution has 10 projects, one is an entire game
engine with over
500 s
This works:
extern(C) alias F = void function();
alias G = void function();
void foo(F f) {}
void foo(G g) {}
Indeed, the correct foo is called, depending on whether the
passed function is extern(C) or not (although I must say that the
syntax for declaring the alias
On 17 September 2013 21:48, Bruno Medeiros wrote:
> On 17/09/2013 12:37, Bruno Medeiros wrote:
>
>> On 16/09/2013 22:39, Brad Roberts wrote:
>>
>>> On 9/16/13 8:52 AM, Bruno Medeiros wrote:
>>>
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Manu's point with regards with
IDE "official endorsement"
On Tuesday, 17 September 2013 at 08:19:12 UTC, deadalnix wrote:
On Tuesday, 17 September 2013 at 07:24:23 UTC, PauloPinto wrote:
Well, they want to sell their own console, Linux based.
So of course they need to create awareness for it.
Well that do make sense. Many widows OpenGL games run fa
On Tuesday, 17 September 2013 at 12:10:11 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
Any two different alias parameter values mean different
template instances. Static introspection demands it:
```
auto foo(alias T)()
{
static if (is(typeof(T) : int) && (T == 42))
return true;
else
return fals
On Tuesday, 17 September 2013 at 11:50:56 UTC, Luís Marques wrote:
On Tuesday, 17 September 2013 at 11:46:07 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
It should not be possible as template instances with same
template parameter list share same body in code gen.
Well, my long shot idea was to use an alias template p
On Tuesday, 17 September 2013 at 11:46:07 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
It should not be possible as template instances with same
template parameter list share same body in code gen.
Well, my long shot idea was to use an alias template parameter,
that way different values would mean different template
On 17/09/2013 02:30, Manu wrote:
On 17 September 2013 01:52, Bruno Medeiros
mailto:brunodomedeiros+...@gmail.com>>
wrote:
On 13/09/2013 08:46, eles wrote:
On Saturday, 7 September 2013 at 19:05:03 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
Recent threads here have made it pretty clear t
On 17/09/2013 12:37, Bruno Medeiros wrote:
On 16/09/2013 22:39, Brad Roberts wrote:
On 9/16/13 8:52 AM, Bruno Medeiros wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Manu's point with regards with
IDE "official endorsement" was
more to try to have the D language organization devs (Walter, Andrei,
On Tuesday, 17 September 2013 at 11:43:24 UTC, Luís Marques wrote:
These examples came from a set of experiments where I was
trying to do something which I expected would probably not be
possible: make a template function generate different code 1)
without varying the function types, 2) without
Thanks. I think what is weird is that the template parameters are
allowed to have the same name as the normal parameters, which
confused my mental model and made me wonder what was even the
expected behavior.
These examples came from a set of experiments where I was trying
to do something whi
On 16/09/2013 22:39, Brad Roberts wrote:
On 9/16/13 8:52 AM, Bruno Medeiros wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Manu's point with regards with
IDE "official endorsement" was
more to try to have the D language organization devs (Walter, Andrei,
etc.) *use* VisualD or another
IDE and under
On Tuesday, 17 September 2013 at 11:24:10 UTC, Luís Marques wrote:
Could you please comment on the following behaviors? Are all of
them intended? Are they internally coherent, with respect to
each
other?
Looks fine to me.
1)
void foo(alias f)(int f)
{
writeln(f);
}
On 16/09/2013 16:33, Paulo Pinto wrote:
And bashing from people that use InteliJ, Netbeans and Eclipse,
depending on the customer?
From these three, Eclipse is the one that always gives me more
headaches in terms of responsiveness, the workspace concept, build tools
that don't make to external
Could you please comment on the following behaviors? Are all of
them intended? Are they internally coherent, with respect to each
other?
1)
void foo(alias f)(int f)
{
writeln(f);
}
foo(42);
Error: does not match template
2)
...
foo!(42)(42);
> 42
3)
On Monday, 16 September 2013 at 17:08:02 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
On 9/16/13 9:57 AM, Dicebot wrote:
On Monday, 16 September 2013 at 16:49:25 UTC, Andrei
Alexandrescu wrote:
...
Sounds like you are exactly arguing over the concept of
semantic web and
related tools. Which is a bit weir
On 16/09/13 23:39, Brad Roberts wrote:
If that's the definition of official endorsement, then sorry, not likely to ever
happen. Demanding that the core devs develop with specific tools is ridiculous
in concept. Would you switch because someone told you to? Me either. I've
been using vi(m) for
On Mon, 2013-09-16 at 11:24 -0700, Walter Bright wrote:
> On 9/16/2013 8:02 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
> > On 2013-09-16 16:28, H. S. Teoh wrote:
> >
> >> Which reminds me... it's probably time to make backups of $HOME again...
> >
> > Just push them to internet and someone will make the backups for
On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 15:24:42 +0100, Bruno Medeiros
wrote:
On 09/09/2013 10:25, Regan Heath wrote:
Eclipse is dreadful. I hate it with a passion.
Any feedback why? Bloat, sluggishness? I do hope it's not just because
the way it used to handle refreshing of resources...
The smallest par
On 17 September 2013 11:02, Tove wrote:
> On Tuesday, 17 September 2013 at 09:52:37 UTC, Iain Buclaw wrote:
>>
>> (gdb) print ('test.enum_ulong')3
>> $11 = (test.enum_ulong.kE2 | test.enum_ulong.kE3)
>>
>> (gdb) print ('test.enum_ulong')2
>> $12 = test.enum_ulong.kE3
>>
>> What do you think? Is .
On Tuesday, 17 September 2013 at 09:52:37 UTC, Iain Buclaw wrote:
(gdb) print ('test.enum_ulong')3
$11 = (test.enum_ulong.kE2 | test.enum_ulong.kE3)
(gdb) print ('test.enum_ulong')2
$12 = test.enum_ulong.kE3
What do you think? Is .. too verbose, or
just right? :-)
Regards
Iain
Kickass! I
I've implemented this in gdc.
https://github.com/D-Programming-GDC/GDC/commit/021dda8feaba282fec60600729ba8abc2c64cf81
---
enum enum_byte : byte { kE1, kE2, kE3 }
enum enum_ubyte : ubyte { kE1, kE2, kE3 }
enum enum_short : short { kE1, kE2, kE3 }
enum enum_ushort : ushort { kE1, kE2, kE
On Tuesday, 17 September 2013 at 01:18:39 UTC, Manu wrote:
What kind of quantity are we talking? My VisualStudio2010 is
humming away
right now at 80mb with a large project open (less than i
expected).
It's a text editor... what does it do?
I don't know what is the minimal java runtime heap am
Nice!
Thx,
Per
On Tuesday, 17 September 2013 at 07:24:23 UTC, PauloPinto wrote:
Well, they want to sell their own console, Linux based.
So of course they need to create awareness for it.
Well that do make sense. Many widows OpenGL games run faster in
wine than on windows (obviously that isn't the case for
On Tuesday, 17 September 2013 at 06:39:59 UTC, Brad Anderson
wrote:
On Tuesday, 17 September 2013 at 06:24:20 UTC, Manu wrote:
On 17 September 2013 15:48, deadalnix
wrote:
On Tuesday, 17 September 2013 at 05:32:28 UTC, Manu wrote:
In my experience, more memory == slower. If you care about
On Tuesday, 17 September 2013 at 06:57:04 UTC, Jacob Carlborg
wrote:
On 2013-09-17 07:32, Manu wrote:
I closed about half my open tabs after my last email (~50 left
open).
Down to 93mb. You must all use some heavy plugins or something.
My current solution has 10 projects, one is an entire game
On 2013-09-17 05:32, Manu wrote:
I presume you mean megabytes?
Well I've been working all morning since I made that comment; I have
about 100 tabs open for editing in VS now (I don't clean up open tabs
often >_<), and it's sitting at 120mb.
For reference, that's considerably less than the chrome
On 2013-09-17 07:32, Manu wrote:
I closed about half my open tabs after my last email (~50 left open).
Down to 93mb. You must all use some heavy plugins or something.
My current solution has 10 projects, one is an entire game engine with
over 500 source files, hundreds of thousands of LOC. Intel
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