[IxDA Discuss] Where Industrial Design Meets IxD - Grad Programs

2009-09-01 Thread Leo Ham
Hello, I am a recent CogSci - HCI graduate and I'm looking into Industrial Design (ID) programs that have close ties with IxD. Or the other way around...IxD programs that deal beyond digital media. I've found the ID program at SCAD close to what I'm looking for. Their curriculum includes "Method

Re: [IxDA Discuss] UX Team Collaboration

2009-09-01 Thread Rob Szumski
We currently use Jungledisk Workgroup to manage multiple versions of comps, icon libraries, interactive prototypes, etc. A new web view just launched in beta which makes easy access to your files from any computer. I like this solution because it scales seamlessly and also works across Windows, Ma

[IxDA Discuss] A list of conference dates/deadlines with relevance to our community

2009-09-01 Thread Mads Soegaard
Dear all, [apologies for cross-postings] I've compiled a list of conference dates/deadlines with relevance to our community. I aim to send an updated overview every once in a while. There's a printerfriendly version (for hanging on your wall) at http://www.interaction-design.org/calendar/printer

[IxDA Discuss] UX Brighton Event: September Special on Gameplay Research & Design

2009-09-01 Thread Danny Hope
(Cross-posted) When: September 8th, 2009 Where: iCrossing, Black Lion Street, Brighton (Map) Time: 6:30 pm - Cost: £ free Details: http://uxbrighton.org.uk/gameplay-research-and-design Talk descriptions will follow, but we've got *2 great speakers so book quickly*. *GiGi Demming* (User Testing M

Re: [IxDA Discuss] UX Team Collaboration

2009-09-01 Thread Steve Magdaraog
Hi Tom, I recommend you take a look at getdropbox.com. It's a great online backup tool and shared folder with version control that lets you sync files across different computers %u2013 Windows, Mac and Linux. Basically you sign up for an account, install their software and assign a folder in yo

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Breadcrumbs including page title or no?

2009-09-01 Thread Scott Chappell
I think some amount of redundant navigation is ok...and breadcrumbs specifically are a place where navigation redundancy is fine. You can make a case for or against redundant navigation depending on the site, the purpose of the site, and the site visitor profile. What is the nature of the site? D

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Preferred Font for a logo and index page

2009-09-01 Thread Torry
myriad pro http://www.fonts.com/FindFonts/Detail.htm?pid=427413&OVRAW=myriad pro&OVKEY=myriad pro&OVMTC=standard&OVADID=47893552022&OVKWID=236371336522 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=45269 _

[IxDA Discuss] JOB: User Experience, User Interface, Interaction Design and User Researcher - California - CISCO - Permanent

2009-09-01 Thread breroger
4 Permanent User Experience, User Interface, Interaction Design and User Researcher Jobs at CISCO in California +contact recruiter Brent at brero...@cisco.com if interested+ 1. User Experience Manager - San Jose - Small Business Solutions Business Unit This leadership position within the Small B

Re: [IxDA Discuss] UX Team Collaboration

2009-09-01 Thread Duane Taylor
I've used SVN for document assets once, but the downside is that the front-end tools are primitive (like Tortoise SVN)and some folks would rather not be bothered w/ having to understand all the SVN lingo. To be honest, almost all the projects I've worked on we have a commercial CMS like Stellant o

Re: [IxDA Discuss] We don\'t make consumer products, hence no need for a User Centered Design development process.

2009-09-01 Thread Robert Skrobe
Hi Ali, Do you believe in a user-centered design process as a benefit to creating better web interfaces? It doesn't sound like there's much room for discussion about the topic at your current company. Who else shares your view amongst your peers, or even in different departments? - Robert On Mo

Re: [IxDA Discuss] UCD vs Design Again? Really?!? [was: We don't blah blah blah]

2009-09-01 Thread Robert Skrobe
Hi Ambrose, Thanks for posting. My experience is that all three roles you mention here (software developers, designers and UX professionals) don't bother pointing out the deficiencies of the other's approach... they just focus on their roles in whatever project process is required to do the work.

Re: [IxDA Discuss] UX Team Collaboration

2009-09-01 Thread Adrian Howard
On 1 Sep 2009, at 21:31, Alok Jain wrote: Git and svn are comparable but git is better in some respects , for e.g. handling branches (i.e. if you are production version of the code , and then you also are working on 1 or more new features. You can keep one production branch and have another br

Re: [IxDA Discuss] UCD vs Design Again? Really?!? [was: We don't blah blah blah]

2009-09-01 Thread Adrian Howard
On 2 Sep 2009, at 05:27, Andrei Herasimchuk wrote: Agreed on both counts. And to further reminisce a bit let's not forget all the stories of people who bought Macs that had the power switch on the front just under the floppy drive, and they would press the button thinking it would ejec

Re: [IxDA Discuss] UX Team Collaboration

2009-09-01 Thread Alok Jain
Git and svn are comparable but git is better in some respects , for e.g. handling branches (i.e. if you are production version of the code , and then you also are working on 1 or more new features. You can keep one production branch and have another branch for other features. This way if a hot fix

Re: [IxDA Discuss] UCD vs Design Again? Really?!? [was: We don't blah blah blah]

2009-09-01 Thread Andrei Herasimchuk
On Sep 1, 2009, at 9:08 PM, Adrian Howard wrote: For me the big advantage was 1) impossible to eject mid-read/write causing data loss and possible damage to drive & disk (folk were _always_ doing this in my experience) 2) Due to the covered nature of the disk - much harder to get crud in d

Re: [IxDA Discuss] UCD vs Design Again? Really?!? [was: We don't blah blah blah]

2009-09-01 Thread Adrian Howard
On 2 Sep 2009, at 04:49, Andrei Herasimchuk wrote: * Implementing 3.5" hard disk floppies when they were not standard in the market, but contained more data storage. This was a product design and technology decision, and certainly did not help customers out of the gate since it could hard

Re: [IxDA Discuss] UCD vs Design Again? Really?!? [was: We don't blah blah blah]

2009-09-01 Thread Jared Spool
On Sep 1, 2009, at 10:46 PM, Andrei Herasimchuk wrote: On Sep 1, 2009, at 8:32 PM, Jared Spool wrote: There's no "guidelines" beyond some vague notion of "involving users" which, by the way, people (like Andrei) who claim to not be UCD followers do too. For the record, I acknowledge that

Re: [IxDA Discuss] UCD vs Design Again? Really?!? [was: We don't blah blah blah]

2009-09-01 Thread Andrei Herasimchuk
On Sep 1, 2009, at 5:42 PM, Jarod Tang wrote: On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 1:49 AM, Andrei Herasimchuk > wrote: Apple focuses on the customer, the technology, the business and the product itself. Simple cursory knowledge of their history, their products, their design choices, and their culture wil

Re: [IxDA Discuss] profit centered design

2009-09-01 Thread Adrian Howard
Hi Eric, On 31 Aug 2009, at 17:03, j. eric townsend wrote: Adrian Howard wrote: And, a Todd says, if the majority of your customer base isn't replacing batteries - is it customer focussed to add a feature that they don't want or need? If you take away the choice before they ever have it,

Re: [IxDA Discuss] UCD vs Design Again? Really?!? [was: We don't blah blah blah]

2009-09-01 Thread Andrei Herasimchuk
On Sep 1, 2009, at 8:32 PM, Jared Spool wrote: There's no "guidelines" beyond some vague notion of "involving users" which, by the way, people (like Andrei) who claim to not be UCD followers do too. For the record, I acknowledge that I design for people. What I don't do is people-centered

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Breadcrumbs including page title or no?

2009-09-01 Thread Jared Spool
On Sep 1, 2009, at 11:54 AM, Audrey Crane wrote: Their argument is that it's useful to reinforce where the user is, and that since people don't focus on it unless it's needed secondarily for navigation, it adds negligible to no visual noise to the page. Breadcrumbs are a design cop-out. That'

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Breadcrumbs including page title or no?

2009-09-01 Thread Jared Spool
On Sep 1, 2009, at 2:43 PM, Chad Jennings wrote: Audrey, I can totally empathize with desire to simplify, simplify, simplify. There is some credence to the SEO argument as having a redundancy between the URL, page title (as shown on browser), headline, and breadcrumbs (or sub header) are variab

Re: [IxDA Discuss] UCD vs Design Again? Really?!? [was: We don't blah blah blah]

2009-09-01 Thread Jared Spool
On Sep 1, 2009, at 6:34 AM, Ali Naqvi wrote: But won't you agree that UCD follow a "certain" guideline? No, I wouldn't. Dozens of interviews I've conducted with self- proclaimed UCD professionals shows there is very little overlap in what UCD means or what a UCD professional does. There'

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Preferred Font for a logo and index page

2009-09-01 Thread pauric
Sasha, unless you are privy to the requirements for Kristen's site you cannot make a guided decision on whether the choice of font will directly impact the goals of the design. Target audience, context of use, frequency of use. Until we know the design's requirements we cannot advise on direction

Re: [IxDA Discuss] \"Way Out\" vs \"Exit\" - Signage usability and passenger experience

2009-09-01 Thread Adrian Howard
On 2 Sep 2009, at 00:17, Diana Wynne wrote: [snip] Only on an airline would you refer to "lavatories" and "illuminating" the seat belt sign rather than using more common words. [snip] That reminds me of some rather uncomfortable times I had as a first time tourist in the US before I figure

Re: [IxDA Discuss] \"Way Out\" vs \"Exit\" - Signage usability and passenger experience

2009-09-01 Thread Adrian Howard
On 1 Sep 2009, at 15:59, Calvin wrote: Vancouver, Canada recently opened a new subway system called "Canada Line" (http://www.canadaline.ca). While I notice quite a few issues in the whole passenger experience, one thing that makes me wonder the most is the exit sign: instead of printing "Exit"

Re: [IxDA Discuss] UX Team Collaboration

2009-09-01 Thread Kim Burgess
Subversion is pretty much the de facto standard as far as centralized version control goes. It is a fantasic piece of software and there are loads of tools round for easily integrating it into your workflow. Alternatively you may also be interested in looking into distributed version control syste

Re: [IxDA Discuss] UCD vs Design Again? Really?!? [was: We don't blah blah blah]

2009-09-01 Thread Jarod Tang
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 1:49 AM, Andrei Herasimchuk < aherasimc...@involutionstudios.com> wrote: > On Sep 1, 2009, at 5:17 AM, Ali Naqvi wrote: > > With time more and newer methods can be added to UCD. UCD is not ONE >> specific development process. UCD is an overall term that can have >> many dif

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Designing a long list of items that people mustchoose from.

2009-09-01 Thread Sascha Brossmann | brsma : designificance
> sensible/ business issues here.) Oops, false friend… s/sensible/sensitive/ I hope, they're sensible, nonetheless ;-) Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe ..

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Breadcrumbs including page title or no?

2009-09-01 Thread Ben Woods
I would keep the current page title at the end of the breadcrumb trail in addition to the title. Users may not mentally link a title that is separated from the breadcrumb. It's a good 'you are here' tool, but without the current page at the end, it's more like 'you're in this section'. Putting 'Y

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Designing a long list of items that people mustchoose from.

2009-09-01 Thread Sascha Brossmann | brsma : designificance
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 23:32, Paul Trumble wrote: > Actually we did an a/b test with an auto-complete feature, with disastrous > results. Personally I think the lack of an agreed upon vocabulary killed > it. While you know what your high school is called, there might be 25 ways > to name your job

Re: [IxDA Discuss] \"Way Out\" vs \"Exit\" - Signage usability and passenger experience

2009-09-01 Thread Robert Hoekman Jr
> > - "Exit" is almost the international standard word to indicate an > exit route. In Australia, New Zealand, Dubai, and Korea, the standard appears to be "Way Out". I don't recall if these signs were used *every*where, but they were definitely used in airports and subway stations, and frequentl

[IxDA Discuss] [EVENT] IxDA Austin // Tues, Sept 22nd // Work Smart! Better Design Process with Sketching and Dynamic Prototypes with Sketchflow

2009-09-01 Thread Tori Breitling
Product design requires fast and light weight strategies, in order to make decisions, changes and true innovation. Building prototypes in same medium as the final product is something other industries have done for years. If you want to learn how to push your design process with real collaboration,

Re: [IxDA Discuss] \"Way Out\" vs \"Exit\" - Signage usability and passenger experience

2009-09-01 Thread Diana Wynne
Way Out also has the disadvantage of being a pun. It might be fun and appropriate on a website, but as you point out, in an airport, where people have plans to catch, the error could be a problem. Note that at least in the US, FAA language is notoriously unfriendly to regular people, let alone tho

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Preferred Font for a logo and index page

2009-09-01 Thread Sascha Brossmann | brsma : designificance
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 14:58, pauric wrote: > "Do you think small changes in a font will affect perception of a > brand in one way or another?" > > Depends on your target audience.  The only people who notice such > things are the people who notice such things I heavily disagree. People might not

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Preferred Font for a logo and index page

2009-09-01 Thread Sascha Brossmann | brsma : designificance
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 14:36, Kristen wrote: > What is your favourite font and why? Kristen, choosing a font should *not* be a matter of whatever one personally prefers, but of what one wants to *communicate*. And to whom. > Do you think small changes in a font will affect perception of a > brand

[IxDA Discuss] \"Way Out\" vs \"Exit\" - Signage usability and passenger experience

2009-09-01 Thread Calvin
Vancouver, Canada recently opened a new subway system called "Canada Line" (http://www.canadaline.ca). While I notice quite a few issues in the whole passenger experience, one thing that makes me wonder the most is the exit sign: instead of printing "Exit", they use "Way Out". My thoughts: - "Exit

Re: [IxDA Discuss] UX Team Collaboration

2009-09-01 Thread Jonathan Abbett
Try Dropbox -- for small groups, their folder sharing works pretty well. Automatically syncs, accessible over the web, keeps historical versions. http://www.getdropbox.com/ -Jon On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 3:42 AM, Tom Daly wrote: > I've suddenly found my team grow from one to three and it's clear

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Breadcrumbs including page title or no?

2009-09-01 Thread Chad Jennings
Audrey, I can totally empathize with desire to simplify, simplify, simplify. There is some credence to the SEO argument as having a redundancy between the URL, page title (as shown on browser), headline, and breadcrumbs (or sub header) are variables in improving page rank. . . . . . . . . . . .

[IxDA Discuss] [Event] Call for participation: STC Summit, Dallas, 2-5 May 2010

2009-09-01 Thread Caroline Jarrett
Dear IxDAers, There's been some recent discussion about how to design online help. Did you know that there's a whole professional society, the Society for Technical Communication, that's all about writing help (specifically) and helping users (generally) and designing user experiences? If you're

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Designing a long list of items that people mustchoose from.

2009-09-01 Thread Paul Trumble
Actually we did an a/b test with an auto-complete feature, with disastrous results. Personally I think the lack of an agreed upon vocabulary killed it. While you know what your high school is called, there might be 25 ways to name your job. Thanks for the ideas. Let me know if you have any othe

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Preferred Font for a logo and index page

2009-09-01 Thread Jason Robb
Kristen, You should take a look at www.typophile.com - the definitive typographic community. Read this before posting: http://typophile.com/design_readme Cheers, Jason R. -- Jason Robb Experience Design & Implementation 617-899-6400 ja...@jasonrobb.com http://jasonrobb.com http://uxboston.com

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Breadcrumbs including page title or no?

2009-09-01 Thread Arthur Fink
I believe your designers have the right conclusion, but the wrong reason. Bread crumbs are typically displayed as minor reference items, and should be complete. The page title is typically more central. So we might have a page that looks like this Repairs | Plumbing

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Breadcrumbs including page title or no?

2009-09-01 Thread Audrey Crane
But if it isn't clear (that this is where you are), shouldn't there be better ways of making it clear than providing a redundant non-functional element? Maybe with the You Are Here: and including that last >? I might test this. I'll let y'all know if I can sneak it into a usability study and what

Re: [IxDA Discuss] UX Team Collaboration

2009-09-01 Thread paul bryan
If version control problems are likely to cause serial heart attacks, then I prefer Visual SourceSafe, even though it can be a pain. In a recent project involving several parties we used Basecamp to share docs and had no problems (http://basecamphq.com). Paul Bryan Usography Linked In: www.linked

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Preferred Font for a logo and index page

2009-09-01 Thread Jennifer R Vignone
You ask that question as though it perhaps is not conceivable to do so... I think that is where the element of design comes into the decision process as well. Part of the design process is what statement you want the overall impact to be, and that may factor into the selection of the typeface and

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Preferred Font for a logo and index page

2009-09-01 Thread Kristen
Does anyone have an opinion about changing the font from headers to main text? For example, using a cleaner, simple font for headers and potentially one with a little more complexity through serif's to ease the reader in the main text? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Preferred Font for a logo and index page

2009-09-01 Thread pauric
"Do you think small changes in a font will affect perception of a brand in one way or another?" Depends on your target audience. The only people who notice such things are the people who notice such things http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1919127,00.html /pauric . . . . . . .

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Preferred Font for a logo and index page

2009-09-01 Thread Jennifer R Vignone
Two of mine (but I have more than two favorites): Janson Janson because the letterforms are beautiful and the italics are elegant. I like the way the capital "J" dips on the baseline. Janson also uses my favorite type of lowercase "a's. Helvetica You can do almost anything with Helvetica, and the

[IxDA Discuss] Preferred Font for a logo and index page

2009-09-01 Thread Kristen
I'm creating a web page and am having issues selecting a font. I recently watched a documentary on Helvetica, but it left me wondering if that really is the best way to go. Helvetica seems to be timeless but also does not stand out. What is your favourite font and why? Do you think small chang

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Breadcrumbs including page title or no?

2009-09-01 Thread David Kozatch
The Buddha says, "wherever you go, there you are." He also says that very few users rely on breadcrumbs to navigate or get themselves "oriented" within the site: they only care about a fluid nav to where they need to go (present page) and to the next place (sometimes back, sometimes not). That sa

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Breadcrumbs including page title or no?

2009-09-01 Thread Joe Lanman
I think that including the current page title makes it totally clear that this is a trail to the current page. Breadcrumbs are sometimes prefaced by 'you are here' which is possibly redundant if you include the current page title. Without the current title the breadcrumbs would mean 'these are the

[IxDA Discuss] Breadcrumbs including page title or no?

2009-09-01 Thread Audrey Crane
I tried to make a change to a site I'm new to working on, to remove the page title as the last element of the breadcrumb and simply treat the title itself as the last element in the breadcrumb, including a > last and keeping the title immediately below. I was surprised that not only wasn't it a sim

Re: [IxDA Discuss] UX Team Collaboration

2009-09-01 Thread Tom Daly
I reached out to the guys at EightShapes and Nathan Curtis responded with a link to a post on their blog that speaks to this (Thanks Nathan!) Link to the article: http://unify.eightshapes.com/efficiency-tips/8-tips-for-organizing-project-files-folders/ Headlines on the file management aspect: Us

Re: [IxDA Discuss] UX Team Collaboration

2009-09-01 Thread Jason Robb
Tom, Great question, would love to hear what others are using for version control. What about an SVN repository? I've heard from various front-end developers, visual designers, and UX-ers that using a code repo works. I haven't personally tried it, but it sounds doable to me. Cheers, Jason R.

Re: [IxDA Discuss] UCD vs Design Again? Really?!? [was: We don't blah blah blah]

2009-09-01 Thread Andrei Herasimchuk
On Sep 1, 2009, at 5:17 AM, Ali Naqvi wrote: With time more and newer methods can be added to UCD. UCD is not ONE specific development process. UCD is an overall term that can have many different development processes with the focus on the USER. I think that APPLE does focus on the user and DO u

Re: [IxDA Discuss] iPhone turnover (was We don't make consumer products, hence no need for a User Centered Design development process.)

2009-09-01 Thread David Kozatch
As fantastic the iPhone is - design-wise, app-wise, user interface-wise -- it is still not optimum for heavy texting and/or email. Ali, perhaps your friends were disappointed with having to type on iPhone's touch key pad which does not give the same tactile response as other smart phones. I switc

Re: [IxDA Discuss] iPhone turnover (was We don't make consumer products, hence no need for a User Centered Design development process.)

2009-09-01 Thread David Kozatch
As fantastic the iPhone is - design-wise, app-wise, user interface-wise -- it is still not optimum for heavy texting and/or email. Ali, perhaps your friends were disappointed with having to type on iPhone's touch key pad which does not give the same tactile response as other smart phones. I switc

[IxDA Discuss] The Fly Me to Canux Contest-Deadline Extended - Go to Canux for practically FREE!

2009-09-01 Thread Mario Bourque
Here is a *tremendous *opportunity for a student or junior practitioner to have access to one of the most amazing and intimate UX conferences in the world! The good folks at nForm are giving YOU the opportunity to go to Canux with *free conference registration*, including two nights accommodation

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Designing a long list of items that people must choose from.

2009-09-01 Thread Chris Heckler
Oops looks like Bryan already submitted the auto complete idea. :) Darn my distracted typing. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=45250 __

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Designing a long list of items that people must choose from.

2009-09-01 Thread Chris Heckler
It seems like having some kind of auto-complete text field to narrow down choices based on a keyword input by the user might be a good part of the solution. For instance, someone could type in "designer" and get back all titles that include "designer"--interior designer, graphic designer, interact

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Designing a long list of items that people mustchoose from.

2009-09-01 Thread Bryan Minihan
Go to berecruited.com and register as a high school athlete. While doing so, you'll be asked to select your high school from a list of 25,000 of them. You'll notice, though, that you have to type its name, and once done, your dropdown list narrows to show schools in your state, then just those in

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Friends, Romans, countrymen, lend me your (tw)ears. Vote in the 2010 SXSW Interactive Panel today http://ow.ly/ncYi

2009-09-01 Thread HK Bansemer
http://ow.ly/ncYi is your voting link. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=45238 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)!

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Designing a long list of items that people mustchoose from.

2009-09-01 Thread Amy Jones
Have you thought of doing a survey and having people self-identify their occupation? No constraints, just a text field (or two- one for industry and one for occupation). You could even do it as a fill in the blank, eg, "I work as a _ in the __ industry." You'd need a fairly large sample

Re: [IxDA Discuss] UCD vs Design Again? Really?!? [was: We don't blah blah blah]

2009-09-01 Thread Jarod Tang
I guess you will to address UCD as philosophy. As previous gays said, there're two level for UCD in the design culture, one from design philosophy perspective, other from process perspective. Design cant avoid the former one, because all artifact is "by the people, for the people and of the peopl

Re: [IxDA Discuss] [EVENT] Reminder - Chicago September Event on the 1st - Cultural Context

2009-09-01 Thread Chicago IxDA
One last reminder about our event tonight - we don't have food and drink planned, so if you're the hungry type please grab a bite before the event. Steve and I (Carolyn) will be at Exchequer across the street at around 5pm. I'll be taking the RSVP form down around noon today: http://tinyurl.com/m2

[IxDA Discuss] UX Team Collaboration

2009-09-01 Thread Tom Daly
I've suddenly found my team grow from one to three and it's clear that a centralized file system is needed, especially as the team grows. I'd love to hear how other teams are working, managing their documentation for both the UX/IxD/VD phases for projects. My aim is to have a central file reposit

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Design --> Development pipeline/tools?

2009-09-01 Thread Michael Micheletti
Hi Billie, In the project I'm working on now, I made a special effort to document the important parts of our design and leave many details out of the specifications. I added a disclaimer in all the documents that the specs were like a jazz chart, that some improvisation was expected and encouraged

[IxDA Discuss] Designing a long list of items that people must choose from.

2009-09-01 Thread Paul Trumble
All: I'm looking for some advice, examples or even recommendations of who might be good at solving this particular problem for us. In the context of a longish multi-page web form we have a need for the user to tell us at a fairly granular level what their occupation is. the total length of the l

Re: [IxDA Discuss] UCD vs Design Again? Really?!? [was: We don't blah blah blah]

2009-09-01 Thread Ali Naqvi
Jared: Okay I have been reading all your comments carefully. Also the ones you made in my post. You are against this term since you claim that "no two practitioners of UCD do the same thing". As humans we are different from each other and have a different creative mind. Following UCD doesnt m

Re: [IxDA Discuss] profit centered design

2009-09-01 Thread Tracy Boyington
But I don't see that as indication that they are "drinking the Kool-Aid." One could just as easily say that someone who sticks with Nokia, for example, has "drank the Kool-Aid" if they refuse to even consider other phones, including the iPhone. People saw new technology, they liked it, they boug

Re: [IxDA Discuss] UCD vs Design Again? Really?!? [was: We don't blah blah blah]

2009-09-01 Thread J. Ambrose Little
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 8:36 AM, Jared Spool wrote: > Which makes it a practically useless term, since no two practitioners of > UCD do the same thing and nobody can differentiate quality UCD from poorly > executed UCD. > On the other hand, it may be its flexibility that enables it to succee

Re: [IxDA Discuss] profit centered design

2009-09-01 Thread Paul Nuschke
Most people I know only upgraded their phones once their contract had expired and they got a substantial discount on the next phone. I've seen many iPhone users upgrade well before contract expiration at the full device cost.That's a big difference. On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Tracy Boyingto

Re: [IxDA Discuss] profit centered design

2009-09-01 Thread Tracy Boyington
I don't understand your logic here. Are you saying people upgraded while they still had "perfectly good" phones because they were hopeless Apple addicts? Are you under the impression that before the iPhone, people only upgraded when their phones died? Because most people I know upgrade because they

Re: [IxDA Discuss] UCD vs Design Again? Really?!? [was: We don't blah blah blah]

2009-09-01 Thread Ali Naqvi
Jared: But won't you agree that UCD follow a "certain" guideline? Poorly executed UCD could for instancebe that not enough qualitative research was conducted? There could be other examples... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://w

Re: [IxDA Discuss] UCD vs Design Again? Really?!? [was: We don't blah blah blah]

2009-09-01 Thread Jared Spool
On Sep 1, 2009, at 5:17 AM, Ali Naqvi wrote: UCD is not ONE specific development process. UCD is an overall term that can have many different development processes with the focus on the USER. Which makes it a practically useless term, since no two practitioners of UCD do the same thing and

Re: [IxDA Discuss] UCD vs Design Again? Really?!? [was: We don't blah blah blah]

2009-09-01 Thread Ali Naqvi
UCD has many other names and consist of these (and probably many others): contextual inquiry, customer-focused design, empathic design, participatory design, usability, usability engineering, usability testing, user experience design, user-focused design, user-friendly design. With time more and n

Re: [IxDA Discuss] UCD vs Design Again? Really?!? [was: We don't blah blah blah]

2009-09-01 Thread Ali Naqvi
Apple's design process: http://www.businessweek.com/the_thread/techbeat/archives/2008/03/apples_design_p.html . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=45169 _

Re: [IxDA Discuss] iPhone turnover (was We don't make consumer products, hence no need for a User Centered Design development process.)

2009-09-01 Thread Ali Naqvi
Seems as if we got some reali IPhone fans here huh? :) With regards to my friend: It dropped out of his hands and fell to the ground. No one ran it over with a truck :) Let me remind you that in Denmark we chance mobile phones each 6 months due to our contracts. Its not rare at all to change a mobi