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eq72521 Wrote: > Agreed. Actually, shortly after posting yesterday I thought about this > and meant to follow-up post and rescind the malignance I was > implicitely attributing to the industry. If anything, there is an > implicit malignance in the system as a whole, of which we are all a > part

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stinkingpig Wrote: > eq72521 wrote: > > Aaron Zinck Wrote: > > > >>>People value quality, and the technology > >> > >>to provide consumers with higher and higher sound-quality only > >>continues to > >>improve. There is still plenty of economic incentive to provide high > >>sound-quality. > >

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eq72521 wrote: Aaron Zinck Wrote: People value quality, and the technology to provide consumers with higher and higher sound-quality only continues to improve. There is still plenty of economic incentive to provide high sound-quality. Unfortunately, my experience causes me to disagree with

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Aaron Zinck Wrote: > >People value quality, and the technology > to provide consumers with higher and higher sound-quality only > continues to > improve. There is still plenty of economic incentive to provide high > sound-quality. Unfortunately, my experience causes me to disagree with this. I

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The ones I know of are RadioIO, live365 and lastfm. There may be others. -- radish ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss

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I see a lot of tit for tat in this forum, but in the 14 pages or so I've lost a crucial piece of information: what subscriptions other than live365 are supported through Slimserver plugins? -- GreenMan ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevice

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On 4/6/05 at 5:28 am -0700, NHGuy wrote Daniel, When it's the first device listed on the Rhapsody website w/ a "buy it now" link and new reviews are using adjectives like "premiere" how much advertising do you need? And you think Roku are not paying for this? Maybe I'm just more cynical than y

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I think we need to clarify just a bit on the Yahoo Service Launchcast; The subscription service allows you to download the DRM protected music that will only work if you keep your subscription, but along with the subscription service you can listen to their Internet Streaming music stations calle

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I'm done speaking mine. There are enough posts on this and other threads in the forum that indicate I'm not the only "whiner" about the lack of functionality, perhaps just a bit more thorny. -- NHGuy ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.

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NHGuy wrote: > Getting a little testy, aren't we? at least I have testies. at least I'm here to actually help people with their questions. what is your excuse at this point? -kdf ps...before you try to tell me I am not allowed to speak my mind, I am not employed by Slim Devices. __

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NHGuy Wrote: > Getting a little testy, aren't we? Something tells me actual vs > forecasted sales isn't a pleasant topic in Slim Device land. Get back to your own forum. You know the one that has a laughable thread I saw today where people had to wait for 4 months for a fix because their stere

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NHGuy wrote: Getting a little testy, aren't we? Something tells me actual vs forecasted sales isn't a pleasant topic in Slim Device land. kdf is not a Slim Devices employee and has no access to that information. He's just annoyed because you're being annoying. Cause, effect. Sort of like ra

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Getting a little testy, aren't we? Something tells me actual vs forecasted sales isn't a pleasant topic in Slim Device land. -- NHGuy ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss

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Quoting NHGuy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > I'm sure they are paying, but look at the incremental sales they're > getting, and Slim devices is losing. oh, do you have marketing/sales data that the rest of us don't know about? or are you just continuing to prove yourself the arse we all thing you are?

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Somebody with a sense of humor!! -- NHGuy ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss

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NHGuy Wrote: > No I don't. Unfortunately I'm past the 30 day period and obviously a > philistine who doesn't deserve to own a squeezebox. Do you think Sean > will make an exception in my case? I think especially for you, to stop you whining Slim should make you an offer you can't refuse. How ab

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--On June 4, 2005 7:42:22 AM -0700 NHGuy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: No I don't. Unfortunstly I'm past the 30 day period. Do you think Sean will make an exception in my case? To which I reply: Gee, I hope not. As any parent knows, you don't reward whining. -- Steve Burling

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I'm sure they are paying, but look at the incremental sales they're getting, and Slim devices is losing. danco Wrote: > On 4/6/05 at 5:28 am -0700, NHGuy wrote > >Daniel, > >When it's the first device listed on the Rhapsody website w/ a "buy > it > >now" link and new reviews are using adjective

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It's an SB2 color is black mode is wireless I live in NH -- NHGuy ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss

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NHGuy wrote: By the way, for all you squeezebox loyalists, make me an offer for mine. Which model have you got (case colour, wired/wireless?) and where are you ? R. -- http://robinbowes.com ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com ht

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On 4/6/05 at 5:28 am -0700, NHGuy wrote Daniel, When it's the first device listed on the Rhapsody website w/ a "buy it now" link and new reviews are using adjectives like "premiere" how much advertising do you need? And you think Roku are not paying for this? Maybe I'm just more cynical than y

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Well...I just picked up one of the those Roku's. I do miss some of the those great plugins on the Squeezebox. I also find the UI more intuitive on the Squeezebox. And the Roku remote is poor. That being said, I am sticking with the Roku and the Squeezebox is going on Ebay. Why? It's all ab

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Aaron Zinck wrote: I've found SlimDevices to be a very accomodating company, so perhaps they will take it back. But why should they? You had *30 days* to figure out that this wasn't the unit for you. I'm not going to take my chest freezer back to Maytag after 2 months and tell them "you know,

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> No I don't. Unfortunstly I'm past the 30 day period. Do you think Sean > will make an exception in my case? I've found SlimDevices to be a very accomodating company, so perhaps they will take it back. But why should they? You had *30 days* to figure out that this wasn't the unit for you. I'm

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NHGuy wrote: I really wish Sean Adams would dive in here and tell me how wrong I am. Why on earth should he? You're neither a shareholder nor a paid consultant, so I fail to understand why you'd expect to be included in any discussions of Slim Devices' business plans. Just because the code i

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No I don't. Unfortunstly I'm past the 30 day period. Do you think Sean will make an exception in my case? kdf Wrote: > Quoting NHGuy : > > > By the way, for all you squeezebox loyalists, make me an offer for > > mine. > > do you offer a return policy? -- NHGuy

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Its tje long cigar shaped thing that says Roku soundbridge Christian Pernegger Wrote: > > When it's the first device listed on the Rhapsody website w/ a "buy > it > > now" link [...] how much advertising do you need? > > Not here: http://www.listen.com/devices/homeaudio.html > > What are you

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Quoting NHGuy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > By the way, for all you squeezebox loyalists, make me an offer for > mine. do you offer a return policy? ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss

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> When it's the first device listed on the Rhapsody website w/ a "buy it > now" link [...] how much advertising do you need? Not here: http://www.listen.com/devices/homeaudio.html What are you talking about? C. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.sl

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Daniel, When it's the first device listed on the Rhapsody website w/ a "buy it now" link and new reviews are using adjectives like "premiere" how much advertising do you need? By the way, for all you squeezebox loyalists, make me an offer for mine. -- NHGuy _

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On 3/6/05 at 4:49 pm -0700, NHGuy wrote The Sony betamax, (I'm revealing my age now) was a much superior product to the VHS tape, but for whatever reason got completly overtaken by VHS. This is going to happen to Simdevices. The market will buy ROKU, Pinnacle systems, etc. because it's on the Rha

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ginal Message - From: "NHGuy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 8:31 PM Subject: [slim] Re: Play for Sure songs Aaron, the two examples I gave were the review from Maximum PC and the PDF document from the marketing manager. I know I'm just a dum

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dear frustrated user, i'd love to take the squeezebox2 off of your hands. i will give it loving home where DRM has no meaning. i have no idea what the hell play for sure is either, so it will be safe with me. you can use the money on products that are in bed with real networks and are in it

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Aaron, the two examples I gave were the review from Maximum PC and the PDF document from the marketing manager. I know I'm just a dumb nontechie, but as I said all I wanted was an appliance, wireless that is. Yes there is a very loyal base of support and as I said earlier I admire you all for th

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> How's your Sony betamax working these days? If owning a squeezebox is as dumb as buying a betamax player then what are you doing wasting your time on this mailing list? Go return that thing! Get rid of it while you can still get your money back! You have failed to address any of the very rati

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Christian Pernegger wrote: give him a pony. No, but a bloody donkey should do the trick ... C. yeah, this thread is getting as annoying as the forums vs. mailing lists one. -- Jack at Monkeynoodle dot Org: It's a Scientific Venture... Riding the Emergency Third Rail Power Trip since 199

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> I do apologize if I appear to whine and have animosity to any > individual or group of people. This was not and is not my intent. > This guy is responsible for the future of this company and the people who > work there. > Like it or not, the services like Rhapsody are the future for the majorit

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> give him a pony. No, but a bloody donkey should do the trick ... C. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss

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The Sony betamax, (I'm revealing my age now) was a much superior product to the VHS tape, but for whatever reason got completly overtaken by VHS. This is going to happen to Simdevices. The market will buy ROKU, Pinnacle systems, etc. because it's on the Rhapsody website and has "playforsure" on t

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NHGuy wrote: How's your Sony betamax working these days? ??? The VHS/Betamax issue has no relevance to the issues we're discussing here. No-one's saying the stuff you want to see is not a good idea and that "our way" is better. You appear to have a particular bee in your bonnet and are bli

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How's your Sony betamax working these days? -- NHGuy ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss

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NHGuy wrote: #> What was aggravating to me was the response from the CEO stating, and I paraphrase, that they were working on more interesting things( this is way up at the beginning of this thread). Sean Adams said: "This isn't really our position or our goal (see roadmap: http:// wiki.slimde

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Aaron, I admire the technical achievement and envy the ability of the people who can utilize it's full capabilities and functionality. But it's what it can't do that will put it out of business. The longer they wait to get in bed w/ real networks et al, the fainter their heartbeat will become. -

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> I've been making an ass of myself to try to get a response from them > stating what their plans actually are. If they have no intention of > supporting a means to use squeezebox for streaming Rhapsody or any > other DRM service, they should have the stones to put that on the > website. I belie

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Folks, I do apologize if I appear to whine and have animosity to any individual or group of people. This was not and is not my intent. What I wanted and thought I was getting, based on what I read on Slim devices website was a device that would stream both protected and unprotected music. I obvi

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> The review from Maximum PC is the one that's prominently displayed. > Since when does a product upgrade mean that functionality is taken > away? > It sometimes happens. But aside from that...a 3rd-party plugin is not a "product feature". SlimDevices cannot be expected to support every 3rd part

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give him a pony. On 6/3/05, Robin Bowes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > NHGuy wrote: > > Jacob, > > Go up a few messages and read the marketing blurb from their maketing > > manager talking about how great the realslim plugin works in > > Squeezebox. > > Post a link. > > > I'm not a lawyer, nor do

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NHGuy wrote: The review from Maximum PC is the one that's prominently displayed. So why did you post a link to the resellers' guide when asked to show where this claim is "prominently displayed"? Since when does a product upgrade mean that functionality is taken away? So, you've *assumed*

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NHGuy wrote: Jacob, Go up a few messages and read the marketing blurb from their maketing manager talking about how great the realslim plugin works in Squeezebox. Post a link. > I'm not a lawyer, nor do I expect to have to parse the the reviews posted on a website to ensure the 100% accuracy

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The review from Maximum PC is the one that's prominently displayed. Since when does a product upgrade mean that functionality is taken away? -- NHGuy ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/d

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Jacob, Go up a few messages and read the marketing blurb from their maketing manager talking about how great the realslim plugin works in Squeezebox. I'm not a lawyer, nor do I expect to have to parse the the reviews posted on a website to ensure the 100% accuracy of each statement. I do know that

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NHGuy wrote: I would agree if that independant review was not so prominently displayed on their website as a reason to buy their product. The link you gave was www.slimdevices.com/marketing/resellers-guide.pdf This is buried in the Resellers page - hardly what I would call "prominently displa

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On 6/3/05, NHGuy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Aaron, > I'm not a bad person, but when the company implies through the posting > of reviews that tout it's ability to stream Rhapsody and when it's > marketing literature specially states it supports real player I as a > reasonable person expect to be

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> Aaron, > I'm not a bad person, but when the company implies through the posting > of reviews that tout it's ability to stream Rhapsody and when it's > marketing literature specially states it supports real player I as a > reasonable person expect to be able to use it for the stated purpose. > Wh

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I would agree if that independant review was not so prominently displayed on their website as a reason to buy their product. Christian Pernegger Wrote: > > The one from Maximum PC that you flaunt has as it's last word, > "Rhapsody".. > > Do you think you would have gotten that good a review i

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Aaron, I'm not a bad person, but when the company implies through the posting of reviews that tout it's ability to stream Rhapsody and when it's marketing literature specially states it supports real player I as a reasonable person expect to be able to use it for the stated purpose. When I read t

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> The issue seems to be that you're inaccurate with your information. The > SB2 has never been advertised as having these features. The Squeezebox 1, > however, does have an unsupported 3rd-party plugin that provides this > functionality. The promotional material you linked to refers to the > S

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> The one from Maximum PC that you flaunt has as it's last word, "Rhapsody". > Do you think you would have gotten that good a review if you didn't have that > capability? Maybe, maybe not. > S, my question is how do I get my money back for a product that > does not perform as advertised. Ple

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> I realize I'm becoming boring, but you guys at Slim Devices ought to > read the reviews you post on your website. The one from Maximum PC that > you flaunt has as it's last word, "Rhapsody". Do you think you would > have gotten that good a review if you didn't have that capability? > S, my qu

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I realize I'm becoming boring, but you guys at Slim Devices ought to read the reviews you post on your website. The one from Maximum PC that you flaunt has as it's last word, "Rhapsody". Do you think you would have gotten that good a review if you didn't have that capability? S, my question is

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> I was actually able to get realslim running with SS 6.1, with a few > minor modifications. There was a thread in the developers forum a > couple weeks ago. There still appear to be occasional problems, and I > was planning on trying to resolve these before making this more well > known -- but th

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www.slimdevices.com/marketing/resellers-guide.pdf This is the link kevin Wrote: > I don't think we've ever advertized anything having to do with > Rhapsody. > > If you're thinking of a specific page on our web site, could you please > tell me which one so I can fix it? (Or if it's a third

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NHGuy Wrote: > If Slimdevices doesn't get it's picture on the Rhapsody website along w/ > it's competition you can bet that Slimdevices will have a smaller and > smaller piece of the pie. So you can talk about big bad corporations > all you want but as a music consumer and user of Rhapsody, I wan

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Aaron Zinck Wrote: > > There is a 3rd party plugin to link slimserver and rhapsody? > > Yes, realslim.sourceforge.net > > but it only really works with SB1 or Slimp3, slimserver 5.4.0, and > Rhapsody > v2 I was actually able to get realslim running with SS 6.1, with a few minor modifications.

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> There is a 3rd party plugin to link slimserver and rhapsody? Yes, realslim.sourceforge.net but it only really works with SB1 or Slimp3, slimserver 5.4.0, and Rhapsody v2 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevic

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Aaron Zinck wrote: While I'd love to see support for Rhapsody, I don't recall ever seeing this featured advertised for the SqueezeBox 2. There is a 3rd party plugin to link slimserver and rhapsody? I tried to sign up to rhapsody only to find that it isnt available in the UK - and I assume the

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While I'd love to see support for Rhapsody, I don't recall ever seeing this featured advertised for the SqueezeBox 2. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss

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If Slimdevices doesn't get it's picture on the Rhapsody website along w/ it's competition you can bet that Slimdevices will have a smaller and smaller piece of the pie. So you can talk about big bad corporations all you want but as a music consumer and user of Rhapsody, I want to be able to use th

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NHGuy Wrote: > PULEAZE, Look at the list of Rhapsody supprted wireless devices. > Everybody that likes that service is now unable to use the $300 dollar > device you sold us. You should also take a look at your marketing > dept's literature. It specifically states that Realslim is alive and > abl

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PULEAZE, Look at the list of Rhapsody supprted wireless devices. Everybody that likes that service is now unable to use the $300 dollar device you sold us. You should also take a look at your marketing dept's literature. It specifically states that Realslim is alive and able to stream realnetworks

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I've read all 7 pages of this thread, I understand the arguements for and against using an Unlimited Service like Yahoo, etc., and I'd like to get to the bottom line of a question I have: Understanding that a SB canot currently stream a Yahoo Unlimited Music account from my computer to my receive

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> The Rhapsody software itself can stream via upnp to a upnp enabled > device that supports protected wma. No need for slimserver. > > The Windows Media Connect server software would stream the other > subscription services to the Squeezebox. No need for Slimserver. That's the only technical reas

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A change in the firmware is what's needed from what I can figure out. [disclaimer - I am clueless so feel free to correct me as necessary]. Whether it's technically or financially possible for Slim Devices to do this with the current hardware I am unsure. Imagine a menu on the Squeezebox that let

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On 19/5/05 at 9:43 am -0700, dean blackketter wrote If you are using Mac OS X, check out Audio Hijack Possibly even better than Audio Hijack, and from the same makers, is Nicecast. Audio Hijack (the Pro version is better than the

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I believe it may be unnecessary to use Total Recorder--I'm fairly confident that Vidur's RealSlim plugin already does essentially the very same thing. It just needs to be updated to support the new version of Rhapsody and SlimServer. Perhaps Vidur could correct me if I'm wrong?

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On May 19, 2005, at 9:21 AM, ron thigpen wrote: question: is TR windows-only? Yes. But of course, so are all these DRM-wrapped subscription music services; as far as I know, none have versions that run on OS X, let alone Linux. for subscription services, yes. but i'd guess that at least some

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Steve Baumgarten wrote: [...] you could still write the app and make it available, subject to people then purchasing TR themselves so they have the necessary DLLs on their system. If that were the case, I assume people would still be thrilled with the solution: a one-time $11.95 cost that allows yo

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a good first step might be to confirm that their redistribution licensing is indeed unrestricted. it may be that the client user of an application developed with the TR-SDK might need a licensed copy of the TR component. Could be. Though given that the application itself sells for $11.95 (that

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Steve Baumgarten wrote: I'm fairly certain that if such an app were developed it could then be given away for free, i.e., no restrictions, even though the Total Recorder SDK itself is commercial software. a good first step might be to confirm that their redistribution licensing is indeed unrestr

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Steve Baumgarten wrote: Just wondering. It would seem to me that if there was some sort of loop-back audio device driver for Windows that this could be used to support DRM-protected music playing to a Squeezbox. The idea would be that you could control Windows Media Player to play the DRM-protect

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Just wondering. It would seem to me that if there was some sort of loop-back audio device driver for Windows that this could be used to support DRM-protected music playing to a Squeezbox. The idea would be that you could control Windows Media Player to play the DRM-protected music, capture the au

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siegeld Wrote: > ...you could control Windows Media Player to play the DRM-protected > music, capture the audio output from the virtual audio driver, and send > it back out to the Squeezbox. The Audigy systems have an option in their recorder that lets you record "What I hear", ie anything that

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Just wondering. It would seem to me that if there was some sort of loop-back audio device driver for Windows that this could be used to support DRM-protected music playing to a Squeezbox. The idea would be that you could control Windows Media Player to play the DRM-protected music, capture the a

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> If this isn't the case now, it soon might be. In a business where > exclusive contracts are the norm, why shouldn't one or more big labels > base their licenses on exclusive relationships with subscription > services? Or maybe they devise some sort of discount, where a > subscription provider has

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> Notice how all (Real, Yahoo, Napster) of these new suscription > services are US only? Napster's subscription service is available in the UK, not that I use it. However after all of the talk on this list I have been very tempted to try it (in fact I hadn't even heard of the service before the d

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> Unless the subscription services are somehow (totally illogically) banning > artists from their catalog, [...] If this isn't the case now, it soon might be. In a business where exclusive contracts are the norm, why shouldn't one or more big labels base their licenses on exclusive relationships w

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> On the other hand, if everyone has this convenient access to the same > large catalog of music, that's the end for anyone who's not included > in this catalog. Independent labels lose even more visbility and > sales. Additionally, people will feel like "I'm already paying > flat-rate, I'll make d

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Christian Pernegger wrote: The Roku uses the Windows Media Connect (WMC) feature of XP SP2 as its "server". No third party software is required. So that really means using either Slimserver or WMC, but not both at the same time. Not very practical - for me, the features and versatility of Slimser

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> Really? - So I'd just have to put a sniffer on the network between the > two devices to get unencryted data? Unlikely, but worth a try. Is > there a network sniffer module for perl? :) I'm not sure how the current realslim plugin works exactly, but it would seem that however it works it's strea

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Christian Pernegger Wrote: > > The Roku uses the Windows Media Connect (WMC) feature of XP SP2 as > its > > "server". No third party software is required. > > So that really means using either Slimserver or WMC, but not both at > the same time. Not very practical - for me, the features and > ve

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Christian Pernegger Wrote: > > why doesn't slimserver support it? ask the lawyers. > > You'd have to do the DRM in the firmware, which is not open. The sb2s > platform seems versatile enough to be able to do that. > > C. Or wait for DVD Jon (or whatever his name was) to break the encryption,

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> why doesn't slimserver support it? ask the lawyers. You'd have to do the DRM in the firmware, which is not open. The sb2s platform seems versatile enough to be able to do that. C. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.sl

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Quoting Josef Shvejk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > For the Squeezebox to support DRM WMA, it would probably have to > > support Windows Media Connect in addition to SlimServer. > > Perhaps SlimServer could connect to WMC PC? > The solution would be transparent for the Squeezebox then. > Just an idea...

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> The Roku uses the Windows Media Connect (WMC) feature of XP SP2 as its > "server". No third party software is required. So that really means using either Slimserver or WMC, but not both at the same time. Not very practical - for me, the features and versatility of Slimserver are one of the main

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> For the Squeezebox to support DRM WMA, it would probably have to > support Windows Media Connect in addition to SlimServer. Perhaps SlimServer could connect to WMC PC? The solution would be transparent for the Squeezebox then. Just an idea... ___

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Christian Pernegger Wrote: > > This cannot be done on the slimserver, even via a legal plugin, since > that would mean to send the data unencrypted to the sb, which MSFT > won't allow. It'd have to be a new native format > > How's the Roku do this? > The Roku uses the Windows Media Connect

[slim] Re: Play for Sure songs

> So is PlaysForSure available to systems other then Microsoft Windows > such as Linux and Mac OS X? From what I can tell it isn't and wont be > any time soon, but I hope I am wrong. Well it's available on everything from flash players to cellphones. I don't think they're all running Windows. Whet

Re: [slim] Re: Play for Sure songs

> But, in the meantime, I sincerely hope the Slim folks will enhance the > SqueezeBox (or at least SB2) to play subscription based DRM WMA. If > Roku can do it, I don't see why Slim cannot? I suspect Microsoft would > love to add the Squeezebox to their list of compatible PlaysForSure > hardware?

Re: [slim] Re: Play for Sure songs

So is PlaysForSure available to systems other then Microsoft Windows such as Linux and Mac OS X? From what I can tell it isn't and wont be any time soon, but I hope I am wrong. On 5/15/05, AV_Guy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Christian Pernegger Wrote: > > > > The point is, that you can't reenco

[slim] Re: Play for Sure songs

Christian Pernegger Wrote: > > The point is, that you can't reencode losslessly whenever a new format > of choice comes along. Think the current flavour of .wma is going to be > around forever? Think again ... It's pretty hard to find the Windows > Media V2 codec nowadays. > That's yet one mor

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