Re: [dmarc-ietf] IETF Mailing Lists and DMARC

> From: "Brandon Long" > To: "Brian E Carpenter" > Cc: "Michael Richardson" , dmarc@ietf.org, "IETF" > , "Cullen Jennings" > Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2016 3:39:22 PM > Subject: Re:

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Last Call: (Interoperability Issues Between DMARC and Indirect Email Flows) to Informational RFC

- Original Message - > From: "Alexey Melnikov" > To: "Brian E Carpenter" > Cc: draft-ietf-dmarc-interoperabil...@ietf.org, "Ned Freed" > , i...@ietf.org, dmarc@ietf.org, > "alexey melnikov"

Re: [dmarc-ietf] I-D Action: draft-akagiri-dmarc-virtual-verification-00.txt

- Original Message - > From: "Kurt Andersen (b)" > To: "Terry Zink" > Cc: "dmarc" > Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 9:52:39 AM > Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] I-D Action: > draft-akagiri-dmarc-virtual-verification-00.txt > On

Re: [dmarc-ietf] I-D Action: draft-akagiri-dmarc-virtual-verification-00.txt

Toute connaissance est une réponse à une question. > On Mar 19, 2016, at 12:51, Murray S. Kucherawy <superu...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 9:58 AM, Franck Martin <fra...@peachymango.org> >> wrote: >> >> Yes, it should not

Re: [dmarc-ietf] SPFAuthResultType unbounded

- Original Message - > From: "Elizabeth Zwicky" <zwi...@otoh.org> > To: "Franck Martin" <fra...@peachymango.org> > Cc: "dmarc" <dmarc@ietf.org>, dmarci...@tomki.com > Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 7:27:04 AM > Subject: R

Re: [dmarc-ietf] SPFAuthResultType unbounded

- Original Message - > From: "Tomki Camp" > To: "Alessandro Vesely" > Cc: dmarc@ietf.org > Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 4:21:11 PM > Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] SPFAuthResultType unbounded > The bug was reported some time ago, and the spec was

Re: [dmarc-ietf] SPFAuthResultType unbounded

- Original Message - > From: "Tomki Camp" <tc...@agari.com> > To: "Franck Martin" <fra...@peachymango.org> > Cc: dmarc@ietf.org, "Alessandro Vesely" <ves...@tana.it> > Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 2:01:26 PM > Subjec

Re: [dmarc-ietf] SPFAuthResultType unbounded

- Original Message - > From: "Tomki" > To: "dmarc" > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 3:27:15 PM > Subject: [dmarc-ietf] SPFAuthResultType unbounded > Does it make sense that SPFAuthResultType element counts are allowed to be > unbounded? > I would

Re: [dmarc-ietf] I-D Action: draft-akagiri-dmarc-virtual-verification-00.txt

- Original Message - > From: "Rolf E. Sonneveld" <r.e.sonnev...@sonnection.nl> > To: "Franck Martin" <fra...@peachymango.org>, "Terry Zink" > <tz...@exchange.microsoft.com> > Cc: "dmarc" <dmarc@ietf.org> >

Re: [dmarc-ietf] using DMARC to signal policy for email canonicalization, signing and encryption

Or TLS, plenty emails on our systems provide a client certificate to our servers. The domain in the CN= could be used for alignment. I don't know if this is useful, as usually the emails have SPF or DKIM, but I see a sizeable portion of emails with no SPF nor DKIM providing a client TLS

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Two new internet-drafts related to forwarded email

> On Oct 17, 2015, at 6:07 AM, Tim Draegen wrote: > >> On Oct 16, 2015, at 10:41 AM, Kurt Andersen > > wrote: >> >> Will look forward to feedback from any interested parties. > > Hi Kurt, > > Can you and the editors of these

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Last call for WG comments on "Interoperability Issues Between DMARC and Indirect Email Flows"

- Original Message - > From: "Rolf E. Sonneveld" > To: "Tim Draegen" > Cc: "dmarc" > Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 7:48:03 AM > Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Last call for WG comments on "Interoperability > Issues

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Forensic Reports

- Original Message - > From: "Stephen Nightingale" > To: dmarc@ietf.org > Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 7:48:03 AM > Subject: [dmarc-ietf] Forensic Reports > > > I have been looking at Forensic Report generation and I note that the > specification points to a

Re: [dmarc-ietf] draft-ietf-dmarc-interoperability-02.txt

- Original Message - From: ned+dm...@mrochek.com To: John Levine jo...@taugh.com Cc: dmarc@ietf.org, fra...@peachymango.org Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2015 7:59:07 AM Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] draft-ietf-dmarc-interoperability-02.txt (chair hat off) Please submit stuff that

Re: [dmarc-ietf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmarc-interoperability-04.txt

-based Message Authentication, Reporting Conformance Working Group of the IETF. Title : Interoperability Issues Between DMARC and Indirect Email Flows Authors : Franck Martin Eliot Lear Tim Draegen

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Confused about DMARC Reports (ruf/rua)

- Original Message - From: Tim Smith r.and.om.dev.4+dm...@gmail.com To: dmarc@ietf.org Sent: Monday, June 8, 2015 5:13:27 AM Subject: [dmarc-ietf] Confused about DMARC Reports (ruf/rua) I have a DMARC record that looks like : _dmarc IN TXT

Re: [dmarc-ietf] draft-ietf-dmarc-interoperability-02.txt

- Original Message - From: John Levine jo...@taugh.com To: dmarc@ietf.org Cc: fra...@peachymango.org Sent: Friday, May 8, 2015 7:33:55 PM Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] draft-ietf-dmarc-interoperability-02.txt In article 1552316227.113529.1431130088299.javamail.zim...@peachymango.org

Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC ATPS Interop Note

- Original Message - From: Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.org To: Murray S. Kucherawy superu...@gmail.com Cc: dmarc@ietf.org, Douglas Otis doug.mtv...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 12:51:44 AM Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC ATPS Interop Note Murray S. Kucherawy

Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC ATPS Interop Note

- Original Message - From: John R Levine jo...@taugh.com To: Franck Martin fra...@peachymango.org Cc: dmarc@ietf.org Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 5:08:03 PM Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC ATPS Interop Note This is of course if the message is not spammy or contain a virus, or nasty

[dmarc-ietf] draft-ietf-dmarc-interoperability-02.txt

I went over the emails of this week, did not find any new comment/update for the above document. ___ dmarc mailing list dmarc@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dmarc

Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC,SPF, null senders, and indirect mail flow

On May 1, 2015, at 9:54 AM, Murray S. Kucherawy superu...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 8:55 AM, Anne Bennett a...@encs.concordia.ca mailto:a...@encs.concordia.ca wrote: Franck Martin fra...@peachymango.org mailto:fra...@peachymango.org writes: Note that postfix/sendmail can

Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC,SPF, null senders, and indirect mail flow

On Apr 30, 2015, at 6:58 AM, John Mears john_me...@symantec.com wrote: The rfc5321.MailFrom is empty: MAIL FROM: The ehlo field presented to the recipient from the third party relay contains the domain of the third party: EHLO thirdparty.org http://thirdparty.org/ For SPF to pass you

Re: [dmarc-ietf] OpenDKIM ADSP, DMARC and ATPS support

On Apr 30, 2015, at 1:13 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.org wrote: Murray S. Kucherawy writes: we'd need to see some hope that widespread deployment is likely. But we still have that pesky registration problem to deal with. IMO there is no registration problem for mailing lists

Re: [dmarc-ietf] New Version Notification for draft-ietf-dmarc-interoperability-02.txt

- Original Message - From: Hector Santos hsan...@isdg.net To: Franck Martin fra...@peachymango.org, dmarc@ietf.org Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 11:26:06 AM Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] New Version Notification for draft-ietf-dmarc-interoperability-02.txt I think overall

Re: [dmarc-ietf] New Version Notification for draft-ietf-dmarc-interoperability-02.txt

- Original Message - From: MH Michael Hammer (5304) mham...@ag.com To: Franck Martin fra...@peachymango.org, dmarc@ietf.org Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 12:47:20 PM Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] New Version Notification for draft-ietf-dmarc-interoperability-02.txt 2. Causes

Re: [dmarc-ietf] New Version Notification for draft-ietf-dmarc-interoperability-02.txt

- Original Message - From: John R Levine jo...@taugh.com To: Franck Martin fra...@peachymango.org Cc: dmarc@ietf.org Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 5:12:21 PM Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] New Version Notification for draft-ietf-dmarc-interoperability-02.txt

[dmarc-ietf] New Version Notification for draft-ietf-dmarc-interoperability-02.txt

FYI Please post more reviews... - A new version of I-D, draft-ietf-dmarc-interoperability-02.txt has been successfully submitted by Franck Martin and posted to the IETF repository. Name: draft-ietf-dmarc-interoperability Revision: 02 Title: Interoperability Issues Between

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Third Party Sender DMARC Adaptations

- Original Message - From: John Levine jo...@taugh.com To: dmarc@ietf.org Cc: superu...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2015 11:11:14 AM Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Third Party Sender DMARC Adaptations As I recall this was considered during the development of DKIM originally,

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Indirect Mail Flow Solution Utility Analysis

- Original Message - From: Terry Zink tz...@exchange.microsoft.com To: dmarc@ietf.org Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 11:26:00 AM Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Indirect Mail Flow Solution Utility Analysis Who knows? Perhaps Yahoo and AOL would suffer user diaspora if they kept

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Indirect Mail Flow Solution Utility Analysis

- Original Message - From: Franck Martin fra...@peachymango.org To: R E Sonneveld r.e.sonnev...@sonnection.nl I believe a number of the Mediators, described in par. 3.2 of https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dmarc-interoperability-01, cannot easily be changed. To give

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Indirect Mail Flow Solution Utility Analysis

- Original Message - From: Rolf E. Sonneveld r.e.sonnev...@sonnection.nl To: John Levine jo...@taugh.com, dmarc@ietf.org Cc: superu...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 3:21:33 PM Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Indirect Mail Flow Solution Utility Analysis Now I think Scott is

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Indirect Mail Flow Solution Utility Analysis

- Original Message - From: Scott Kitterman skl...@kitterman.com To: dmarc@ietf.org Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 7:11:14 AM Subject: [dmarc-ietf] Indirect Mail Flow Solution Utility Analysis Another example of a potential solution is receivers amalgamating data from across their

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Ideas for list handling

- Original Message - From: Murray S. Kucherawy superu...@gmail.com To: dmarc@ietf.org Sent: Sunday, April 5, 2015 6:33:52 PM Subject: [dmarc-ietf] Ideas for list handling Also, I've posted a new one that proposes a way to include in the signature some information about message

Re: [dmarc-ietf] New Version Notification for draft-ietf-dmarc-interoperability-01.txt

Sorry for delay, Elizabeth did more fixing and I'm going through the reviews now. See comments inline. - Original Message - From: Murray S. Kucherawy superu...@gmail.com To: Franck Martin fra...@peachymango.org Cc: dmarc dmarc@ietf.org Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 1:01:15 PM

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Next steps for RFC 7489 (DMARC)

- Original Message - From: J. Gomez jgo...@seryrich.com That is why, in my view, DMARC's p=reject has to either be reliable to be relied on, or be suppressed from DMARC's formal specification if it is going to mainly be equal to p=do-whatever. when you see a p=reject and DMARC

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Next steps for RFC 7489 (DMARC)

- Original Message - From: Steven M Jones s...@crash.com To: dmarc@ietf.org Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 4:38:08 PM Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Next steps for RFC 7489 (DMARC) On 03/26/2015 04:22 PM, Franck Martin wrote: What I learn for all the combinations: It does not change

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Next steps for RFC 7489 (DMARC)

- Original Message - From: Michael Jack Assels mjass...@encs.concordia.ca To: Murray S. Kucherawy superu...@gmail.com Cc: dmarc@ietf.org, J. Gomez jgo...@seryrich.com Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 4:12:13 PM Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Next steps for RFC 7489 (DMARC) On Thu, 26 Mar

Re: [dmarc-ietf] interoperability issues around gateway-transformation

- Original Message - From: Murray S. Kucherawy superu...@gmail.com So, maybe a header canonicalization that has as one of its steps conversion of all Subject fields to something RFC2047-compatible? On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 1:39 PM, John Bucy jb...@google.com wrote: The scenario

Re: [dmarc-ietf] interoperability issues around gateway-transformation

- Original Message - From: Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.org To: Murray S. Kucherawy superu...@gmail.com Cc: dmarc@ietf.org, John Bucy jb...@google.com Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 8:17:47 AM Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] interoperability issues around gateway-transformation

[dmarc-ietf] New Version Notification for draft-ietf-dmarc-interoperability-01.txt

by Franck Martin and posted to the IETF repository. Name: draft-ietf-dmarc-interoperability Revision: 01 Title: Interoperability Issues Between DMARC and Indirect Email Flows Document date: 2015-03-20 Group: dmarc Pages: 19 URL: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-dmarc

Re: [dmarc-ietf] interoperability draft for review

- Original Message - From: ned+dm...@mrochek.com To: Tim Draegen t...@eudaemon.net Cc: dmarc dmarc@ietf.org Sent: Sunday, February 1, 2015 5:58:10 PM Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] interoperability draft for review Hi all, Frank, Eliot, and myself have finished up a first cut at

Re: [dmarc-ietf] interoperability draft for review

- Original Message - From: John Levine jo...@taugh.com To: dmarc@ietf.org Cc: t...@eudaemon.net Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 6:31:11 PM Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] interoperability draft for review In addition to other comments: Section 3.1.2.3 is just wrong. EAI

Re: [dmarc-ietf] interoperability draft for review

Latest diff is at https://github.com/dmarc-ietf/id/commit/d7b1a401f3c171c27df926bd6a0c5a2ba06eec9b May be the xml diff (at then end) is best to read. Github is not very nice with RFC formatting... ___ dmarc mailing list dmarc@ietf.org

Re: [dmarc-ietf] interoperability draft for review

- Original Message - From: Murray S. Kucherawy superu...@gmail.com To: Franck Martin fra...@peachymango.org Cc: Tim Draegen t...@eudaemon.net, dmarc dmarc@ietf.org, ned+dm...@mrochek.com Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 9:43:52 AM Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] interoperability draft

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Comments on draft-ietf-dmarc-interoperability

- Original Message - From: Murray S. Kucherawy superu...@gmail.com To: dmarc@ietf.org Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 1:23:48 AM Subject: [dmarc-ietf] Comments on draft-ietf-dmarc-interoperability Thanks for putting this together. Here are the results of a late-night first-time

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Comments on draft-ietf-dmarc-interoperability

- Original Message - From: Murray S. Kucherawy superu...@gmail.com To: Franck Martin fra...@peachymango.org Cc: dmarc@ietf.org Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 4:36:09 PM Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Comments on draft-ietf-dmarc-interoperability That diff format is a little challenging

Re: [dmarc-ietf] questions on the spec, was ... and two more tiny nits, while I'm at it

- Original Message - From: Michael Jack Assels mjass...@encs.concordia.ca To: dmarc@ietf.org Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 4:06:12 PM Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] questions on the spec, was ... and two more tiny nits, while I'm at it What seems like ages ago, on Thu, 22 Jan 2015

Re: [dmarc-ietf] the painful issue of SPF HELO

- Original Message - From: Scott Kitterman skl...@kitterman.com To: dmarc@ietf.org Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 4:17:57 PM Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] the painful issue of SPF HELO On Friday, January 23, 2015 18:27:46 Anne Bennett wrote: I seem to have wandered into a bit of a

Re: [dmarc-ietf] questions on the spec, was ... and two more tiny nits, while I'm at it

- Original Message - From: ned+dm...@mrochek.com To: John Levine jo...@taugh.com Cc: dmarc@ietf.org, skl...@kitterman.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:41:46 PM Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] questions on the spec, was ... and two more tiny nits, while I'm at it DMARC leverages

Re: [dmarc-ietf] questions on the spec, was ... and two more tiny nits, while I'm at it

- Original Message - From: Scott Kitterman skl...@kitterman.com To: dmarc@ietf.org Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 7:16:58 PM Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] questions on the spec, was ... and two more tiny nits, while I'm at it On Friday, January 23, 2015 03:03:28 John Levine wrote:

[dmarc-ietf] New Version Notification for draft-dmarc-interoperability-00.txt

FYI I'm still a bit new on the IETF processes, so apologies if I stepped outside normal tracks... - A new version of I-D, draft-dmarc-interoperability-00.txt has been successfully submitted by Franck Martin and posted to the IETF repository. Name: draft-dmarc

Re: [dmarc-ietf] ... and two more tiny nits, while I'm at it

- Original Message - From: Scott Kitterman skl...@kitterman.com To: dmarc@ietf.org Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 2:29:10 PM Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] ... and two more tiny nits, while I'm at it On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 16:14:32 Franck Martin wrote: - Original Message

Re: [dmarc-ietf] ... and two more tiny nits, while I'm at it

- Original Message - From: Scott Kitterman skl...@kitterman.com To: dmarc@ietf.org Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 2:49:01 PM Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] ... and two more tiny nits, while I'm at it Last time I had stats, it was about 10% as common as Mail From oriented records.

Re: [dmarc-ietf] ... and two more tiny nits, while I'm at it

- Original Message - From: Anne Bennett a...@encs.concordia.ca To: DMARC list dmarc@ietf.org Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 1:44:16 PM Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] ... and two more tiny nits, while I'm at it Hi, Murray. MK I think all of the points in your three messages are

Re: [dmarc-ietf] ... and two more tiny nits, while I'm at it

- Original Message - From: Scott Kitterman skl...@kitterman.com To: dmarc@ietf.org Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 9:02:26 PM Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] ... and two more tiny nits, while I'm at it On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 17:40:39 Franck Martin wrote: - Original Message

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Jim Fenton's review of -04

On Dec 30, 2014, at 5:39 AM, MH Michael Hammer (5304) mham...@ag.com wrote: -Original Message- From: dmarc [mailto:dmarc-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Dave Crocker Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 4:58 PM To: dmarc@ietf.org Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Jim Fenton's review of -04

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Jim Fenton's review of -04

On Dec 25, 2014, at 8:30 PM, Murray S. Kucherawy superu...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 25, 2014 at 10:15 PM, Dave Crocker dcroc...@gmail.com mailto:dcroc...@gmail.com wrote: One could argue either way about the multi-valued From:, but at least it has an essential relationship to DMARC,

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Jim Fenton's review of -04

- Original Message - From: Murray S. Kucherawy superu...@gmail.com To: Dave Crocker dcroc...@bbiw.net Cc: dmarc@ietf.org Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 7:50:16 AM Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Jim Fenton's review of -04 On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Dave Crocker

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Jim Fenton's review of -04

- Original Message - From: Scott Kitterman skl...@kitterman.com To: dmarc@ietf.org Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 2:48:17 PM Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Jim Fenton's review of -04 On Wednesday, December 24, 2014 10:46:42 Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Jim Fenton's review of -04

- Original Message - From: Murray S. Kucherawy superu...@gmail.com To: Scott Kitterman skl...@kitterman.com Cc: dmarc@ietf.org Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 10:32:44 PM Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Jim Fenton's review of -04 On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 10:44 AM, Scott Kitterman

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Jim Fenton's review of -04

- Original Message - From: Murray S. Kucherawy superu...@gmail.com To: Franck Martin fra...@peachymango.org Cc: dmarc@ietf.org, Scott Kitterman skl...@kitterman.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 11:20:30 PM Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Jim Fenton's review of -04 On Wed, Dec 24

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Jim Fenton's review of -04

- Original Message - From: Scott Kitterman skl...@kitterman.com To: dmarc@ietf.org Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 7:44:04 AM Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Jim Fenton's review of -04 On Friday, December 19, 2014 01:30:10 PM Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: Colleagues,

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Jim Fenton's review of -04

- Original Message - From: Dave Crocker d...@dcrocker.net To: R E Sonneveld r.e.sonnev...@sonnection.nl, Scott Kitterman skl...@kitterman.com Cc: dmarc@ietf.org Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 11:16:01 AM Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Jim Fenton's review of -04 On 12/22/2014

Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC and Bounces (was: Indirect Mail Flows)

- Original Message - From: Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.org To: José Ferreira jose.ferre...@anubisnetworks.com Cc: dmarc@ietf.org Sent: Friday, November 28, 2014 10:22:13 PM Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC and Bounces (was: Indirect Mail Flows) José Ferreira writes: I

Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC and Bounces (was: Indirect Mail Flows)

support Franck Martin when he wrote. I guess these two (sendmail and postfix) are the backbone of many appliances... Therefore it is important to read http://trac.tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7208#section-10.1.3 on how to setup SPF to work with bounces. and adding that the RFC5321.MailFrom must

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Indirect Mail Flows

- Original Message - From: Elizabeth Zwicky zwi...@yahoo-inc.com To: Sam Silberman ssilber...@constantcontact.com, dmarc@ietf.org Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 10:08:16 AM Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Indirect Mail Flows By my calculation, purely indirect mail -- mail that

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Indirect Mail Flows

- Original Message - From: Murray S. Kucherawy superu...@gmail.com To: Franck Martin fra...@peachymango.org Cc: Sam Silberman ssilber...@constantcontact.com, dmarc@ietf.org, Elizabeth Zwicky zwi...@yahoo-inc.com Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 2:07:40 PM Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf

[dmarc-ietf] Volunteering to write the next draft

As requested by chair during mail ___ dmarc mailing list dmarc@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dmarc

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Indirect email flows

- Original Message - From: Brett McDowell brettmcdow...@gmail.com To: Scott Kitterman skl...@kitterman.com Cc: dmarc dmarc@ietf.org Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 9:47:58 AM Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Indirect email flows On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 4:57 PM, Scott Kitterman

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Indirect email flows

- Original Message - From: Steve Atkins st...@wordtothewise.com To: dmarc dmarc@ietf.org Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 11:32:12 AM Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Indirect email flows On Nov 12, 2014, at 12:59 PM, Franck Martin fra...@peachymango.org wrote: From: Brett

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Indirect email flows

- Original Message - From: Murray S. Kucherawy superu...@gmail.com To: Franck Martin fra...@peachymango.org Cc: dmarc dmarc@ietf.org, Steve Atkins st...@wordtothewise.com Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 3:33:35 PM Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Indirect email flows On Wed, Nov 12

Re: [dmarc-ietf] draft-kucherawy-dmarc-base feedback

Printed on recycled paper! On Nov 9, 2014, at 23:22, Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.org wrote: Franck Martin writes: I wish the mailbox-list syntax in the From would be deprecated for the mailbox syntax, but it is unlikely to happen, may be when RFC5322 gets revised (under Security

Re: [dmarc-ietf] draft-kucherawy-dmarc-base feedback

- Original Message - From: Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.org To: Franck Martin fra...@peachymango.org Cc: Brett McDowell brettmcdow...@gmail.com, dmarc@ietf.org, Scott Kitterman skl...@kitterman.com Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 11:05:23 AM Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] draft

Re: [dmarc-ietf] draft-kucherawy-dmarc-base feedback

- Original Message - From: Douglas Otis doug.mtv...@gmail.com To: Franck Martin fra...@peachymango.org Cc: Ned Freed ned.fr...@mrochek.com, dmarc@ietf.org, Murray S. Kucherawy superu...@gmail.com, Douglas Otis doug.mtv...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2014 11:58:00 PM

Re: [dmarc-ietf] draft-kucherawy-dmarc-base feedback

- Original Message - From: ned+dm...@mrochek.com To: John Levine jo...@taugh.com Cc: dmarc@ietf.org, superu...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, November 7, 2014 10:47:20 AM Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] draft-kucherawy-dmarc-base feedback What sort of remedy would you suggest here? Off the

Re: [dmarc-ietf] draft-kucherawy-dmarc-base feedback

- Original Message - From: ned+dm...@mrochek.com To: John Levine jo...@taugh.com Cc: dmarc@ietf.org, superu...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, November 7, 2014 10:47:20 AM Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] draft-kucherawy-dmarc-base feedback For From: headers with address-free groups, recall

Re: [dmarc-ietf] draft-kucherawy-dmarc-base feedback

Printed on recycled paper! On Nov 9, 2014, at 09:43, Scott Kitterman skl...@kitterman.com wrote: On November 9, 2014 4:31:31 AM EST, Franck Martin fra...@peachymango.org wrote: - Original Message - From: ned+dm...@mrochek.com To: John Levine jo...@taugh.com Cc: dmarc

Re: [dmarc-ietf] draft-kucherawy-dmarc-base feedback

Printed on recycled paper! On Nov 9, 2014, at 10:27, Rolf E. Sonneveld r.e.sonnev...@sonnection.nl wrote: On 11/09/2014 04:03 PM, Tim Draegen wrote: On Nov 8, 2014, at 8:38 PM, Franck Martin fra...@peachymango.org wrote: There are no secret sauces. I thought it was clear this type

Re: [dmarc-ietf] draft-kucherawy-dmarc-base feedback

- Original Message - From: Brett McDowell brettmcdow...@gmail.com To: Scott Kitterman skl...@kitterman.com Cc: dmarc@ietf.org Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 12:30:31 PM Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] draft-kucherawy-dmarc-base feedback On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Scott Kitterman

Re: [dmarc-ietf] draft-kucherawy-dmarc-base feedback

Printed on recycled paper! On Nov 8, 2014, at 15:00, Rolf E. Sonneveld r.e.sonnev...@sonnection.nl wrote: On 11/08/2014 09:20 PM, Brett McDowell wrote: I support making no change in dmarc-base-05 that might change how current mailbox providers implement dmarc-base. But to the extent

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Indirect mail flows: DKIM signature breakage by cloud anti-virus/spam provider

On Sep 15, 2014, at 7:39 PM, Henrik Schack henrik.sch...@gmail.com wrote: In Denmark we have a somewhat large (10K+ domains) anti-virus/spam provider breaking DKIM signatures. They break DKIM signatures on incoming email by adding a Virus scanned by line to the body of the email.

Re: [dmarc-ietf] draft-kucherawy-dmarc-base-04 issue

On Aug 30, 2014, at 7:12 AM, Tim Draegen t...@eudaemon.net wrote: On Aug 29, 2014, at 11:39 PM, Scott Kitterman skl...@kitterman.com wrote: Since this is the WG list, I'm not sure if this is still the right list for issues with the base spec or not, but here goes ... Right list. Just to

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Change the mailing list protocol, not DMARC.

- Original Message - From: Matt Simerson m...@tnpi.net To: dmarc@ietf.org Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2014 11:13:55 PM Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Change the mailing list protocol, not DMARC. On Jun 10, 2014, at 10:15 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.org wrote: Matt

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Change the mailing list protocol, not DMARC.

Printed on recycled paper! On Jun 12, 2014, at 21:54, Murray S. Kucherawy superu...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 12:33 PM, Elizabeth Zwicky zwi...@yahoo-inc.com wrote: On 6/12/14, 9:36 AM, Terry Zink tz...@exchange.microsoft.com wrote: Franck Martin wrote: I found

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Change the mailing list protocol, not DMARC.

- Original Message - From: Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.org To: Barry Leiba barryle...@computer.org Cc: Dave Crocker dcroc...@gmail.com, dmarc@ietf.org Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 3:33:16 PM Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Change the mailing list protocol, not DMARC. Barry Leiba

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-kucherawy-dkim-delegate-00.txt

- Original Message - From: Dave Crocker dcroc...@gmail.com To: Murray S. Kucherawy superu...@gmail.com, Franck Martin fra...@peachymango.org Cc: dmarc@ietf.org Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 4:06:13 PM Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-kucherawy-dkim

Re: [dmarc-ietf] DKIM through mailing lists (rebutting MLs won't change)

- Original Message - From: Matt Simerson m...@tnpi.net To: dmarc@ietf.org Sent: Tuesday, June 3, 2014 10:01:37 PM Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] DKIM through mailing lists (rebutting MLs won't change) On Jun 3, 2014, at 8:44 PM, John Levine jo...@taugh.com wrote: Yes the

Re: [dmarc-ietf] DKIM through mailing lists (rebutting MLs won't change)

- Original Message - From: Stephen J. Turnbull turnb...@sk.tsukuba.ac.jp To: Tony Hansen t...@att.com Cc: dmarc@ietf.org Sent: Monday, June 2, 2014 12:28:21 AM Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] DKIM through mailing lists (rebutting MLs won't change) Tony Hansen writes: I would love

Re: [dmarc-ietf] DKIM through mailing lists (rebutting MLs won't change)

- Original Message - From: Kurt Andersen kander...@linkedin.com To: Stephen J. Turnbull turnb...@sk.tsukuba.ac.jp, Tony Hansen t...@att.com Cc: dmarc@ietf.org Sent: Monday, June 2, 2014 12:55:39 PM Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] DKIM through mailing lists (rebutting MLs won't change)

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Solution for DMARC disruption of normal email use while still offering its normal protection

- Original Message - From: Dave Crocker dcroc...@gmail.com To: Franck Martin fra...@peachymango.org Cc: dmarc@ietf.org Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 3:48:39 PM Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Solution for DMARC disruption of normal email use while still offering its normal protection

Re: [dmarc-ietf] FYI: AOL Mail updates DMARC policy to 'reject'

- Original Message - From: Jim Fenton fen...@bluepopcorn.net To: dmarc@ietf.org Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2014 2:27:33 PM Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] FYI: AOL Mail updates DMARC policy to 'reject' 3. DMARC is basically an anti-phishing technology, whereas while DKIM + ADSP can do

Re: [dmarc-ietf] [dmarc-discuss] FYI: AOL Mail updates DMARC policy to 'reject'

- Original Message - From: Murray S. Kucherawy superu...@gmail.com To: Terry Zink tz...@exchange.microsoft.com Cc: dmarc@ietf.org, Hector Santos hsan...@isdg.net, DMARC Discuss dmarc-disc...@dmarc.org Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2014 11:56:03 AM Subject: Re: [dmarc-discuss]

Re: [dmarc-ietf] alignment and parsing logic as optionals

- Original Message - From: Joseph Humphreys jhumphr...@salesforce.com To: dmarc@ietf.org Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 10:04:08 AM Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] alignment and parsing logic as optionals On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 4:50 AM, Murray S. Kucherawy superu...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC's purpose

- Original Message - From: Barry Leiba barryle...@computer.org To: Dave Crocker dcroc...@gmail.com, Murray Kucherawy superu...@gmail.com Cc: dmarc@ietf.org Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 9:53:15 AM Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC's purpose 2. The spec is clear about how it

Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC's purpose

- Original Message - From: Barry Leiba barryle...@computer.org To: Franck Martin fra...@peachymango.org Cc: Dave Crocker dcroc...@gmail.com, dmarc@ietf.org, Murray Kucherawy superu...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:12:55 AM Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC's purpose

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Fwd: DMARC's purpose

Printed on recycled paper! On Apr 12, 2014, at 12:25, Scott Kitterman skl...@kitterman.com wrote: On Saturday, April 12, 2014 18:30:39 Franck Martin wrote: Printed on recycled paper! On Apr 12, 2014, at 3:59, SM s...@resistor.net wrote: Hi Franck, At 13:35 10-04-2014, Franck

Re: [dmarc-ietf] SRS helps SPF/DMARC

- Original Message - From: Vlatko Salaj vlatko.sa...@goodone.tk To: dmarc@ietf.org Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 11:54:17 AM Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] SRS helps SPF/DMARC On Friday, February 14, 2014 8:06 PM, Franck Martin fra...@peachymango.org wrote: It would be far

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Limiting what goes in aggregate reports

- Original Message - From: Murray S. Kucherawy superu...@gmail.com To: dmarc@ietf.org Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 12:55:26 PM Subject: [dmarc-ietf] Limiting what goes in aggregate reports I've received a feature request for OpenDMARC to limit what goes into aggregate reports.

Re: [dmarc-ietf] External review of draft-kucherawy-dmarc-base-01

- Original Message - From: Jim Fenton fen...@bluepopcorn.net To: Murray S. Kucherawy superu...@gmail.com Cc: dmarc@ietf.org Sent: Friday, December 6, 2013 3:22:25 PM Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] External review of draft-kucherawy-dmarc-base-01 A few reply responses inline. On

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Suggestion: handle null reverse path SPF alignment with RFC5322.From in different domain

- Original Message - From: Raman Gupta rocketra...@gmail.com To: dmarc@ietf.org Cc: Franck Martin fra...@peachymango.org, Murray S. Kucherawy superu...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2013 9:50:13 AM Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Suggestion: handle null reverse path SPF

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