Craig Spencer wrote:
Environmentalism is a chicken little con game. The envionmentalists
cry the sky is falling to convince people they have to go along with
totalitarianism to save the world.
This is not something new. It seems that it was basically the basis of
the power of the Mayan
The eCurrency Trade Association (eCTA) is currently compiling a database
for members which may be used in part for collating and tracking known
scammers.
This will be available to the Members of the eCTA in the very near future.
Michael Moore
Vice President (Pro Tem)
for the
Board of
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Well you can spend it on a holiday.
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Here's what perplexes me.
So far, the only accounts that I have heard of being raided have been the
accounts that have had the account number revealed. So far, I have not
heard of a second or a third account having been raided.
How come?
E-gold reports failed attempts to access an account,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
However, the overall topic is so completely ridiculous on so many
levels (example, reindeer cannot fly; man has in fact explored the
north pole; we know where all known gifts actually came from etc)
that it is important to realize that even the statement santa
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Think of it as a Pascal's wager kind of thing - maybe you'll be
wrong trying to do your part to combat global warming, but conserving
energy and promoting alternative fuels can be its own reward - and if
you're right it helps in the big picture too!
The Pascal's
Let me apologise for the long posting..Is a compilation of a few
events..Whoever think they have a solution may read.
A solution to a problem is never as permanent as the problem itself or the
excuses Ka Seong
Well, I don't believe there is a lock in this world that can last longer
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| This is not sensible, though.
|
| Nothing could be easier than extracting (ie, opening your eyes and
| looking at) the output of a keyboard sniffer.
|
| You can, instantaneously, see (say, to make but one example), where
| the word e-gold was typed, and then immediately
Julian Morrison wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Think of it as a Pascal's wager kind of thing - maybe you'll be
wrong trying to do your part to combat global warming, but conserving
energy and promoting alternative fuels can be its own reward - and if
you're right it helps in the big
Many people have complained that e-gold doesn't just freeze funds or reverse
a spend when they report that their account has been hacked.
There is a reason for this. It is called due process. If someone has
stolen money from your account, report it to the FBI or the local Melbourne,
Florida
Julian Morrison wrote:
Also I recall the flap before global warming was fear of a new *ice age*
being due roundabout now. Be amusing if one filled into the hole of the
other so to speak :-)
The notable fact about this is that it was the SAME people that were
touting the coming ice age that
migrate to http://www.free-market.net/forums/e-gold0009/ ?? It's easy
to post there, and it will reduce traffic on this list* nicely. Thanks, and
yes, John D. Rockefeller saved more whales than today's enviros can
or will ever imagine, but that has nothing to do with e-gold IMO. :) On
the stuff
1. E-gold can add digital certificate support to their web site. The
cryptographic authentication procedure requires the would-be hacker to steal
a secret key AND a passphrase. This is at least one order of magnitude more
difficult for the hacker, which means we should see a one order of
Luc Van den Borre wrote:
Sure, I got carried away with the better technical solution, but for the sake of
your argument there's no need for it.
| ANY of these obviosities is the equivalent of pointing out that
| reindeer cant fly --- global warming is as ridiculous on as many
| levels
In fact, the only REAL long term solution is to go completely over to
digital-bearer-instruments (digital cash) instead of book-entry
systems, but until then, here's how to protect your account:
How so? These instruments are like a leather wallet in your back
pocket. They can be stolen. You
Neil,
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Still bouncing like a rubber ball.
Eric Gaither, President
Gaithmans Gold Nation, Inc.
(317) 788-8580 Voice
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http://businesses.msn.com/gege/
Scammer(s) take notice...the Gold Community is united in seeing your
demise!
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You are currently
Why make it easy for even relatively unskilled hackers to
raid e-gold a/cs?
Why waste all the time, effort, money needed to effect such a change for
relatively unskilled users who will just find another way to lose control
of their account and demand yet more more ineffective security means
Why make it easy for even relatively unskilled hackers to
raid e-gold a/cs?
Why waste all the time, effort, money needed to effect such a change for
relatively unskilled users who will just find another way to lose control
of their account and demand yet more more ineffective security
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Offshoresufer:
RE: ...Finally I would make the point that a hell of a lot of people
around the world use online banking, yet we don't hear in the media every
day of accounts being raided. Yet on this list it seems to have become an
almost daily occurence with regard to e-gold accounts. Would you
The main difference with DBI's is that they are encrypted to your public key
whether you store them on your hard drive or on the net.
But they are still unlocked with your passphrase though, right? PGP,
Hushmail, Mark Twain Digicash, Digigold all require(d) a passphrase to
access the account,
If you don't have a secure computer, it doesn't matter how many layers of
external protection exist, your items of value with be taken from you.
Some famous quotes that come to mind...
One by P.T. Barnum, and the other by Ben Franklin
A fool and his money are soon parted. - P.T. Barnum
No
At 7:03 PM -0400 6/13/01, Bob wrote:
A quick update on the status of Systemics' legal tussle with
the e-gold group.
Today we filed against the injunction; we have to wait and
see what the judge says on Friday.
I can't comment on anything much except the documents that
are filed in
Just heard on the news. On averege
*ONE PERCENT*
of the recommendations made by Wall St. analysts is correct in direction.
Idiots. What a farse.
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http://futures.tradingcharts.com/chart/GD/61
As Bob called it, another big test coming in tomorrow's trading.
MAJOR HISTORY could be made.
IF gold goes down through that channel tomorrow, the price is fucked
and it will go down to 200 over the next few weeks. (It will beat the
lows of
(*) habeus server systemics has the server, so they yield a lot of power
So the old rule of 'he who has the gold' was one-upped by the new rule 'he
who has the server that the gold is traded on'.
digi gold is just an experiment right?
Something like that... It is in beta release
I believe that some trojans can be planted on some configurations of
(usually Windows) machines running ICQ, as well as by opening an
attachment that should not have been trusted.
http://grc.com/dos/grcdos.htm has a (long, but revealing, and mostly
pretty-good I hear) discussion of using
If your private key is stored in a secure device such as the U are U
biometric reader, or a smart card, or a floppy, then it doesn't matter if
the hacker gets your passphrase. He STILL doesn't have your private key.
Ken Griffith
- Original Message -
From: Viking Coder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Given the fact that digigold is only 25% backed by e-gold, the total value
of all notes in circulation could be as much as $249,384.
- Original Message -
From: Viking Coder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: e-gold Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 9:10 PM
Subject:
Just heard on the news. On averege
*ONE PERCENT*
of the recommendations made by Wall St. analysts is correct in direction.
I'm always highly skeptical of reports like that. Who arrived at that
statistic and how?
In an efficient market like the stock market it is impossible to beat
Just heard on the news. On averege
*ONE PERCENT*
of the recommendations made by Wall St. analysts is correct in direction.
Idiots. What a farse.
Since there are only 2 possible outcomes (ignoring no change) for a price
to move, isn't there a 50/50 chance to get an increase or decrease
Given the fact that digigold is only 25% backed by e-gold, the total value
of all notes in circulation could be as much as $249,384.
Actually, the 25% backing was only a plan for the future. Digigold is
still 100% backed. Remember, it's still only in beta testing.
Viking Coder
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://futures.tradingcharts.com/chart/GD/61
As Bob called it, another big test coming in tomorrow's trading.
MAJOR HISTORY could be made.
IF gold goes down through that channel tomorrow, the price is fucked
and it will go down to 200 over the next few weeks.
On 13 Jun 2001, at 18:55, Samuel Mc Kee wrote:
I keep hearing various people suggest that it's possible to plant a
software trojan on someone's machine without that person opening up an
attachment or running an executable locally. These claims are a lot
like claims of psychic powers: I can
I was a little surprised to see you write this.
Why stop at E-Gold sites? Lots of people use the same passphrase (password
in many sad cases) for all their e-mail accounts, their work login, their
online bank accounts, and so on and so forth. Should my regular ISP's e-mail
server try to log in
Here's the moral solution: Inform people about basic password security,
encourage them to take personal responsibility for their own affairs,
_expect_ them to take personal responsibility for their own affairs, and
when they don't, feel sorry for them but hope they learned and don't pretend
it's
Try the first two test on this page. I am not sure if they are
evidence. But you will get something on your system without
opening an attachement...
http://www.finjan.com/mcrc/test.cfm
Both tests asked me if I wanted to install and run some executable code on
my machine. We software
THE GOLDDATE SERVER COULD IN FACT EASILY GO TO THE EGOLD SERVER, AT
THAT MOMENT, AND *TRY TO LOG IN AS THE PERSON*
.. to CHECK whether the person was foolish enough to use their egold
password as their GoldDate password.
The developer could offer that as a free service.
Check this
SHOULD ALL EGOLD RELATED SITES DO THIS?
Certainly not! If people are told quite clearly by both E-Gold and
the site they are joining not to do something as it is unsafe, yet
they do it anyway, on their own heads be it. We are all adults. I
think the exact analogy in the real world is a
We are all adults. I
think the exact analogy in the real world is a restaurant or similar
which puts up signs stating things like
Bag snatchers operate in this area. Please do not leave your bag
unattended
or
Please be careful of your valuables while in this shop, as thefts do
occur!
Ken Griffith wrote:
Many people have complained that e-gold doesn't just freeze funds or
reverse
a spend when they report that their account has been hacked.
There is a reason for this. It is called due process. If someone has
stolen money from your account, report it to the FBI or the local
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