Re: [PSES] Moderate or Serious Hazards, Severity of Injury

2024-11-05 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
Good attachments, Rich! A likely future source will be ISO/TR 21260. Expected publication date has already slipped. Here's a look at it from Doug Nix: https://machinerysafety101.com/2019/05/23/forces-people-and-injuries-how-hard-is-too-hard/ Mike > On 11/05/2024 2:39 PM CST Rich

Re: [PSES] Separation of AC and DC Conductors in Control Cabinet

2024-10-18 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
ke two separate insulation failures for the hazardous voltage to be able to pass into the SELV circuit. One would be the failure of the insulation on the hazardous voltage wiring, and the other failure would be of the insulation on the SELV wiring. Mike Sherman Sherman PSC LLC > On 10/18/2024

Re: [PSES] Test

2024-10-03 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
Yes, thanks Philip. Mike > On 10/03/2024 3:04 PM CDT Philip wrote: > > > > Test confirmed? > > > On Thu, Oct 3, 2024, 2:24 PM MIKE SHERMAN > <347e8d192c85-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org > mailto:347e8d192c85-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org

[PSES] Test

2024-10-03 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
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Re: [PSES] Motor Locked Rotor and Overload Testing

2024-08-14 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
Note that securing the motor and rotor for a locked rotor test must be done very carefully. The motors generate an amazing amount of torque, and flying wrenches, for example, can be hazardous. Mike Sherman Sherman PSC LLC > On 08/14/2024 11:36 AM CDT James Pawson (U3C) >

Re: [PSES] Motor Locked Rotor and Overload Testing

2024-08-14 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
Regarding locked rotor testing: what are the criteria for passing? If it's associated with, for example, the motor (as in not catching fire, or passing a dielectric test afterwards), then I think you have your answer. Mike Sherman Sherman PSC LLC > On 08/14/2024 11:36 AM CDT James Paw

Re: [PSES] Machinery Regulation - safety components

2024-08-10 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
hem to the Machinery Regulation. And no, I don't think we can automatically assume that they will satisfy the Regulation as-is. I believe that it will be up to us to understand the new requirements of the Regulation and determine whether our products meet them. Mike Sherman Sherman PSC LLC > On

Re: [PSES] CAN/CSA C22.2 No. 62133-2:20 for CR 2032 Batteries?

2024-07-22 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
. 62133-2:20 website and point out that the standard only applies to secondary cells. You might also provide a link to a site explaining what secondary cells are. We all have helped educate one another over the years; we can continue that courtesy with our Amazon colleagues. Mike Sherman Sherman

Re: [PSES] SCCR Rating Question

2024-05-15 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
Brian —   I am equally mystified by qualifying an SCCR with a voltage. Perhaps you could network into a friendly UL 408a panel shop and see what they say.  Mike Sherman  Sherman PSC LLC On 05/15/2024 9:05 AM -05 Brian

Re: [PSES] DoC - reference to ROHS directive

2024-04-21 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
What I've seen is language like "2011/65/EU RoHS directive with amendment 2015/863/EU" or "2011/65/EU RoHS directive as amended by 2015/863/EU" The 2015 amendment adds four substances to the original six, so you should mention both it and the 2011 directive. Mike Sher

Re: [PSES] Red and Green lights on machinery

2024-03-06 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
recollection, lights that are prompts for users are coded blue, that adding yet another color would likely complicate your design at little benefit. Mike Sherman Sherman PSC LLC > On 03/06/2024 10:10 AM CST Brian Kunde wrote: > > > > Greetings to all. > > We are work

Re: [PSES] Very Small Product; Many Certification Marks

2023-11-15 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
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Re: [PSES] AI & Regulatory Compliance

2023-10-07 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
its Whereas clause 12 for some background, as I recall. Would LOVE to see presentations on this at ISPCE.    Mike Sherman  Sherman PSC LLC On 10/06/2023 2:59 PM MST Regan Arndt wrote:     Greetings fellow members

Re: [PSES] UK extends CE mark recognition indefinitely

2023-08-01 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
Very interesting! Thanks for sharing! Has anybody heard any UK thoughts about how the UK will approach the new Machinery Regulation, which replaces the Machinery Directive for CE marking? Mike Sherman Sherman PSC LLC > On 08/01/2023 8:17 AM CDT Lauren Crane > <1afd08519f18-d

Re: [PSES] EU Machinery Regulation official version

2023-07-04 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
Still requires a DoC. Mike Sherman Sherman PSC LLC > On 07/04/2023 11:45 AM CDT Scott Xe wrote: > > > Dear Doug, > > Many thanks for your brief and useful information! I wonder if this > regulation still requires a DoC. > >

Re: [PSES] Foreign Object Detection for industrial charger

2023-06-07 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
o you have a chance to comment on them, even if you are not officially part of the committee. Mike Sherman Sherman PSC LLC > On 06/07/2023 3:22 AM CDT Boštjan Glavič wrote: > > > > Dear experts, > > > > Is anyone familiar if there exist some requirements for

Re: [PSES] Power cords

2023-05-15 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
subsystem from the ceiling panel to work on that subsystem, so that the entire system would not have to be taken down and restarted. If that seems reasonably foreseeable, you may need additional risk mitigations beyond what you propose. Good to see you at ISPCE, too! Mike Sherman Sherman PSC LLC

Re: [PSES] Rated Mains Operating Voltage Regional Compatibility [General Use]

2023-05-09 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
I think it would be reasonable to expect that a product marked 100-240 Vac and as compliant with 62368-1 would have been tested, where specified in the standard to test to the "most unfavorable supply voltage," to values in the 90-264 range. If in doubt, you could ask the manufactu

Re: [PSES] Rated Mains Operating Voltage Regional Compatibility [General Use]

2023-05-06 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
duct rated for 230 Vac for the EU market and want to sell it in Australia. Mike Sherman Sherman PSC LLC > On 05/06/2023 4:09 AM CDT Agar, Philip (Leonardo, UK) > <220ac8787b71-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org> wrote: > > > Please could someone advise me on what s

Re: [PSES] EStops

2023-04-20 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
Steve -- I have not read ISO 13850, but it is a key requirement in my mind that ESTOPs are readily accessible to the operator. Mike > On 04/20/2023 3:21 PM sgbrody wrote: > > > Experts, > > Have read through EN ISO 13850 know that an ESTOP can be a button on

Re: [PSES] Are Australia/New Zealand approvals needed for IEC 60320 Appliance Inlet ?

2023-04-18 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
This is subtle. If you’re selling appliance connectors as components in the Au/NZ market, they are likely treated differently than those appliance connectors that are only sold as part of equipment.  Mike Sherman  Sherman PSC LLC On 04/18/2023 11:31 AM Scott

Re: [PSES] Flammability Rating for Plastics V0 vs V1

2023-03-02 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
ity, but I don't know if polycarbonate is. Lastly, in certain high risk areas (e.g., cleanrooms) insurance companies might have minimum flammability requirements for plastics. So "it depends" applies here! :-) I hope others on this forum can chip in. Mike Sherman Sherman PSC L

Re: [PSES] EU and UK DoC

2023-03-01 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
Yes, that is what we concluded.  In addition, there is some other terminology that differs between the two that your client might have to deal with.  Mike Sherman PSC LLC On 03/01/2023 1:29 PM 06cee064502d-dmarc-requ

Re: [PSES] Adding more than one EUT

2023-02-17 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
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Re: [PSES] Exclusion from the RED?

2023-01-25 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
unds like it applies to your case. Mike > On 01/25/2023 11:22 AM Doug Nix wrote: > > > Colleagues, > > I was discussing the application of the RED with someone this week, and > this question came up: > > If a product has WiFi or Bluetooth transceivers

Re: [PSES] Magnetic fields, human exposure standards, and pacemakers

2022-11-03 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
Dan -- I'd suggest that you have your relative call Support at the pacemaker/defib manufacturer. On a slightly different project, I found a lot of on-line information about device immunity, and I think we even called Support and got additional clarifying information. Go to the source!

Re: [PSES] Surge Protection Device required by NEC

2022-11-02 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
one that shares a utility transformer with others (think strip mall).  There’s also a “fast transient” test, as I recall. That might be related to lighting strikes, but there are others on this forum who know this better than I.  Mike Sherman  Sherman PSC LLC

Re: [PSES] EU harmonised standard of EN 62368-1 Ed3 : 2020 for General Product Safety Directive

2022-11-02 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
the EN standards.  Mike On 11/01/2022 9:50 PM Scott Xe wrote: Dear Mike, Appreciate your spotting out the essential part that was over-looked.  As explained in above reply, it seems a full

Re: [PSES] EU harmonised standard of EN 62368-1 Ed3 : 2020 for General Product Safety Directive

2022-11-01 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
he EU to avoid the problems that sunk the 3rd edition as a viable harmonized EN standard. Mike Sherman Sherman PSC LLC > On 11/01/2022 9:45 AM Scott Xe wrote: > > > Dear All, > > On 16 Aug 2022, OJEU listed EN 62368-1 2020 without a deadline of an > enforce

Re: [PSES] List of Common Misuses

2022-10-05 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
tify in some warnings what not to do where we perceived that to be a foreseeable misuse. Hope this helps! Mike Sherman Sherman PSC LLC > On 10/05/2022 1:01 PM Brian Kunde wrote: > > > My company manufactures Laboratory Equipment such as analyzers and > determinators. Th

Re: [PSES] To NRTL or not NRTL, that is the question

2022-10-04 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
consensus standards approval process. Mike Sherman Sherman PSC LLC > On 10/04/2022 11:48 AM James Pawson (U3C) > wrote: > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > Thank you for all the replies. Some of them confirmed my existing > understanding but t

Re: [PSES] Cybersecurity?

2022-10-03 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
Oh, I just learned something about that: Requirements coming in under Article 3.3 (d) (e) and (f) of RED (Radio Equipment Directive), and effective August 1, 2024. See EU Delegated Regulation 2022/30. Mike Sherman Sherman PSC LLC > On 10/03/2022 3:24 PM Chris Brown > <1ca

Re: [PSES] Cybersecurity?

2022-10-03 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
I was wondering why I was getting emails asking me to participate in cyber surveys! Mike Sherman Sherman PSC LLC > On 10/03/2022 3:09 PM Douglas E Powell wrote: > > > All, > > In the last few months, I've received a number of inquiries from > rec

Re: [PSES] [EXTERNAL] Re: [PSES] To NRTL or not NRTL, that is the question

2022-09-27 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
Many retailers who sell consumer goods will require NRTL marking on electrical goods as part of their purchase contract with you. Mike Sherman Sherman PSC LLC > On 09/27/2022 5:03 PM Knudsen, Patty > <1c82e1717b3f-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org> wrote: > > >

Re: [PSES] EN62368 HBS - Rationale document or other background source?

2022-07-12 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
Marko -- Take a look at a synopsis of IEC 62368-2. I think this may meet your needs. Mike Sherman Sherman PSC LLC Product Safety Consulting > On 07/12/2022 6:19 PM Marko Radojicic > <052300254e41-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org> wrote: > > > Hi All, > >

Re: [PSES] NRTL Marks on Industrial Pump Assemblies

2022-07-01 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
t-serve if you'd like to discuss more. Mike Sherman Sherman PSC LLC Product Safety Consulting > On 06/30/2022 2:00 PM Brian Kunde wrote: > > > I am confused and frustrated. We have an industrial product that > includes a small water recirculation tank which includes

Re: [PSES] NFPA Code Adoption

2022-05-10 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
to see what they know about what you're looking for, and to also get a sense of where the committee is in the revision cycle. Mike Sherman Sherman PSC LLC > On 05/10/2022 11:13 AM Douglas E Powell wrote: > > > All, > > In the past, I've used the NFPA 7

Re: [PSES] UK plug adaptors with fuse?

2022-04-27 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
in the past in understanding these requirements. Mike Sherman Sherman PSC LLC > On 04/27/2022 6:46 AM Kim Boll Jensen > <199f0011b1e3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org> wrote: > > > Hi > > We have been checking several travel adopters for importers here in EU,

Re: [PSES] NOM Mexico safety mark annual renewal required?

2022-04-25 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
-001-SOFI-2018 from https://mexicanlaws.com/ and look at Appendix C, which is where I think these modules are described. At least one of the longer term modules required factory inspections. Then talk to your labs to figure out your ROI on the various options. Mike Sherman > On 04/23/202

Re: [PSES] RFID Reader Integration

2022-02-22 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
differently.  Mike Sherman  On 02/22/2022 11:36 AM Brian Kunde wrote: I know nothing about the regulatory requirements of an RFID Reader but I assume it has a transceiver so it is considered an Intentional Radiator

Re: [PSES] Machinery Leakage Current

2022-02-03 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
sing, could fail silently and thus needed to be tested regularly to ensure continued protection. Mike Sherman > On 02/03/2022 8:23 AM Doug Nix wrote: > > > Hi Mark, > > I’ve seen mains filters used for 400 V 3 ph. 200A services with leakage > currents close

Re: [PSES] Machinery Leakage Current

2022-02-02 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
quite lower than 3.5 mA. Mike Sherman Retired Product Safety Engineer > On 02/01/2022 12:24 PM Stultz, Mark > <0f79f2e10e47-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org> wrote: > > > > Hello, > > Is there a hard limit for leakage current for machinery in th

Re: [PSES] [PSES] CE marked products

2022-01-26 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
positive way.  Mike Sherman  On 01/26/2022 8:47 AM John E Allen <09cc677f395b-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org> wrote: Scott   In the UK (don’t know about Eire) the law (UK Plug & Socket Regs 1994 https://www.legislation.gov.uk

Re: [PSES] UL Standards - Old School Spacings

2022-01-25 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
And please share what you find out about these table values! thanks, Mike > On 01/25/2022 12:26 PM Douglas E Powell wrote: > > > All, > > I'm interested in learning the history behind what I call old school > spacings found in UL standards.

Re: [PSES] Notice about LVD compliance in a DoC for machinery?

2022-01-17 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
While I pay close attention to the Guide, I am doubtful that going against its guidance to, in effect, over document, is sufficient to invalidate a DoC. I have not ever encountered resistance to listing both MSD and LVD---has anyone on this listserv? Mike Sherman > On 01/17/2022 10:54

Re: [PSES] Notice about LVD compliance in a DoC for machinery?

2022-01-17 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
prefers their own logic over that expressed in the Guide or similar documents. I would just list both MSD and LVD on the DoC. Just be sure your technical file is clear. Mike Sherman Retired Product Safety Engineer > On 01/17/2022 10:40 AM Oliver Betz wrote: > > > Hi all, >

Re: [PSES] machinery that is moving while working, wot CE requirements

2021-12-05 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
ot be in scope. Homologation This seems to only apply if you will be driving the machine down the highway in traffic, but you might want to check. Can get really messy. Requirements can vary by country as I recall. Mike > On 12/05/2021 6:35 PM Pete Perkins > <000

[PSES] Product Safety Engineer Openings at Graco in Minneapolis

2021-09-01 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
-Compliance-Engineer-II_R0010382 Product Safety and Compliance Engineer III - Senior https://graco.wd5.myworkdayjobs.com/en-US/Graco_Careers/job/Minneapolis-Minnesota-USA-Tech-Center/Product-Safety-and-Compliance-Engineer-III---Senior_R0011404-1 Contact me with any questions. Mike

Re: [PSES] What percentage of products pass first time?

2021-05-24 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
We have found "pre-screening" EMC testing early in the development cycle to be a good investment. EMC test results can be notoriously hard to predict, even when using EMC-savvy design principles. Extra PCB board spins are cheap in the context of a larger or time critical project. Mi

Re: [PSES] Ground Bond Tests

2021-05-12 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
Rich Nute has 3 Technically Speaking columns on this that can be found at the In Compliance magazine website. The first is here https://incompliancemag.com/article/derivation-of-ground-impedance/ and I find it quite informative. Mike Sherman Graco Inc. > On 05/12/2021 8:01 AM Wise

Re: [PSES] EU Machinery Directive 2006/42/EC for motorized adjustable height table

2021-05-04 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
Scott -- 1. I tend to not list a harmonized standard unless I've applied all of its requirements to my machine. 2. Some of the standards you mention are for EMC, not MD. Mike > On 05/04/2021 9:51 AM Scott Xe wrote: > > > > It applies the harmon

Re: [PSES] Schuko CEE 7/7 Plugs for Appliances Sold in Italy?

2021-05-03 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
challenge. Mike Sherman Graco Inc. > On 04/29/2021 7:06 PM rwell...@wellman.com wrote: > > > > You can look at: > > > > https://www.power-plugs-sockets.com/ > > > > or > > > > Power plug a

[PSES] Schuko CEE 7/7 Plugs for Appliances Sold in Italy?

2021-04-29 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
Is it legal to appliances in Italy that have Schuko CEE 7/7 plugs? All my Wikipedia research says that this is common. Is there a government regulatory body that can answer this? I could not find an answer on the mise.gov.it website, or a contact to ask. Thanks! Mike Sherman Graco Inc

[PSES] Product Safety Engineer Position--Minneapolis

2021-03-26 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
products for sale world wide. Please contact me with any questions about this position. Mike Sherman Graco Inc. - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the

Re: [PSES] FCC Emissions on Industrial Equipment

2021-01-12 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
61000-6-4. Mike > On 01/12/2021 11:21 AM Brian Kunde wrote: > > > I am working on the first Industrial Machine of my career so I could use > some advice and clarification regarding the requirements for FCC emissions. > > I have been told by

Re: [PSES] TRAVEL ADAPTORS-EU regulation that forbids use in professional equipment?

2020-12-16 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
the UK who could address this, or maybe even the people at PowerConnections. Mike Sherman Graco Inc. > On 12/15/2020 12:27 PM Rodriguez, Daniel (ESP) > <123de38bd494-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org> wrote: > > > > Good afternoon all > >

Re: [PSES] [EXTERNAL] Re: [PSES] Will there be an IEC electrical safety standard for E-cigarettes?

2020-12-10 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
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Re: [PSES] TRAVEL ADAPTORS-EU regulation that forbids use in professional equipment?

2020-11-27 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
Regarding requirements in France and Germany: you might try contacting their regulators directly. That's how I found out about the Switzerland requirements. Mike Sherman Graco Inc. > On 11/27/2020 1:53 AM Rodriguez, Daniel (ESP) > <123de38bd494-dmarc-requ...@listserv.i

Re: [PSES] ROHS and DoC

2020-11-22 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
> > All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web > > > at: > > > http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html > > > > > > Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES O

Re: [PSES] ROHS and DoC

2020-11-22 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
Brian -- I like your approach; simple. Mike Sherman Graco Inc. > On 11/21/2020 11:26 PM Brian Kunde wrote: > > > Because we provide DoCs translated into over 30 languages, we try to > avoid text that has to be translated. Our type of products do not have to

Re: [PSES] TRAVEL ADAPTORS-EU regulation that forbids use in professional equipment?

2020-11-19 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
For Switzerland, the adaptor must be certified to SEV1011 and must be "fixed." Be aware that most "travel adaptors" are not certified and are not fixed. I found the authorities in Switzerland to be quite helpful; contact me directly for more information. Mike Sherman Graco

Re: [PSES] NFPA Codes, law or not?

2020-10-30 Thread MIKE
When faced with a similar situation a few years ago in a smaller jurisdiction, the local AHJ had us send a formal request to the state fire marshal regarding why interpreting their existing code in light of the latest NFPA version made sense. We did and the state fire marshal blessed it. Mike

[PSES] CENELEC Version of IEC 60335-1:2020

2020-10-28 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
ote (on an exempted work item) 2020-06-29: WI abandoned: exempted from parallel by D164/C055" QUESTION for someone who speaks "CENELECese": when should we expect to see an approved/released EN 60335-1:2020? Thanks! Mike Sherman Graco Inc. -

Re: [PSES] removable access panels with warning decals

2020-10-26 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
Chet -- For completely removeable belt guards, I have sometimes put warning labels on both the outside of the guard and on the permanent part of the machine underneath the guard---as a reminder to replace it. However, no safety standard reference immediately comes to mind. Mike Sherman Graco

Re: [PSES] [EXTERNAL] Re: [PSES] electric shock from capacitor discharge

2020-09-30 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
I've seen some motor caps on industrial induction motors whose capacitance gave me pause. I think we specified a minimum bleed down time to allow before servicing. Mike Sherman Graco Inc. > On 09/29/2020 10:21 PM Ted Eckert > <07cf6ebeab9d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.i

Re: [PSES] electric shock from capacitor discharge

2020-09-29 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
Rich -- Are you including old CRTs as capacitors? I recall that, even with the early Macs, you had to be careful to discharge the tube if you were going to mess around inside. Mike > On 09/29/2020 4:27 PM Richard Nute wrote: > > > > > I am interested in knowing

Re: [PSES] Selling into the Ukraine

2020-09-22 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
nical information we share. -We submit a Russian manual, plus Russian translations of the parts of our CE technical file that we share. Contact me separately if you have questions about EAC marking. Mike Sherman Graco Inc. > On 09/22/2020 12:40 PM Steve Brody wrote: > > > Brian, &

Re: [PSES] China Country of Origin Requirements

2020-07-21 Thread Mike Home
Steve — We haven’t run into Chinese COO requirements yet, but we pretty religiously mark our products. If you’re shipping electrical components into the PRC, be aware of the CCC mark, which is administered by tariff code and seems to be enforced. Mike Sherman Graco Inc. Sent from my iPhone

Re: [PSES] Risk Assessment question

2020-06-16 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
standards are used in what industries, vs. which risk assessment standards are specifically called out in which product safety standards. Mike Sherman Graco Inc. > On 06/16/2020 5:49 PM Douglas Powell wrote: > > > All, > > Over the past several years, near

Re: [PSES] EMO versus EMS

2020-05-14 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
Regan -- Take a look at this article on Doug Nix's website: https://machinerysafety101.com/2010/09/27/emergency-stop-categories/ ABB also has an Emergency Stops Training Guide No. 2 available on the web that has some good, basic information. Mike Sherman Product Safety Engineer Grac

[PSES] Anybody particularly adept at TESEQ Compliance5 Software?

2020-05-05 Thread Mike Violette, P.E.
. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher

Re: [PSES] Induction motor EMC

2020-04-19 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
Derek -- Look in the EMC guidelines, near the front. I seem to recall that they state that induction motors are EMC "benign" and therefore do not need to be assessed. Mike > On April 19, 2020 at 8:51 PM DEREK WALTON > <00734758d943-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org> w

Re: [PSES] Fwd: Emergency Stop Function

2020-03-19 Thread MIKE
Brian — Look on the web for Doug Nix. Good guy, knows his stuff. Mike Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App -- Original Message -- From: Brian Kunde To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Sent: March 19, 2020 at 12:19 PM Subject: [PSES] Fwd: Emergency Stop Function If any of you have a Case of

Re: [PSES] Construction Site Power Cords, Germany

2020-02-16 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
ocument, BGV/GUV-V A3 E, 1979, section 5(1)2, specifically its instructions for implementation. Thanks to all for you help! And thanks to Herr Steimel for his quick response. Mike Sherman Product Safety Engineer Graco Inc. > On January 29, 2020 at 8:29 AM "Bender, Curtis" > &

[PSES] Product Safety Engineer Position--Minneapolis

2020-02-13 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
https://chj.tbe.taleo.net/chj04/ats/careers/v2/viewRequisition?org=GRAC&cws=45&rid=4198 Contact me with any questions. Mike Sherman Product Safety Engineer Graco Inc. - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Eng

[PSES] Construction Site Power Cords, Germany

2020-01-28 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
work equipment These must at least correspond to protection class IP 2X and be equipped with a mains connection cable of type H07RN-F [rubber] or H07BQ-F [polyurethane]. " Does anyone know what is meant by "comparable work equipment"? thanks, Mi

Re: [PSES] Semi-Anechoic Chamber move

2019-08-23 Thread Mike Violette, P.E.
t; unsubscribe) <http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html> > List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html > <http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html> > For help, send mail to the list administrators: > Scott Douglas mailto:sdoug...@ieee.org>> > Mike Cantwell mailto:

Re: [PSES] Branding Products and EU Decision 768 NLF

2019-08-15 Thread MIKE
Brian — I call this “private labeling.” The EU and presumably the customer want a match between the company name on the product and company name on the declaration, hence the expectation that they be the same. The Blue Guide often has additional detailed guidance on things like this. Mike

Re: [PSES] Seeking clean copy of a great EMC Design Tips

2019-07-17 Thread Mike Gafan
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Re: [PSES] Big Boot from List Server

2019-04-24 Thread Sundstrom, Mike
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Re: [PSES] Question re: Measuring a signal in a noisy environment

2019-04-18 Thread Mike Violette, P.E.
Proper install eliminated the external noise and >> now the system passed. >> >> Concern: While I accept that proper installation and operation of our system >> is our >> responsibility, I had expected that the tester would point to the excessive >

Re: [PSES] CCC on Cooling Fans?

2019-03-05 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
simply not an excuse to import non-CCC parts and sell then to the broader market as component parts for new products. Our local employees in China had to work with local officials to implement this exception for some repair parts that we wanted to stock in China. Mike Sherman Graco Inc. &g

Re: [PSES] Standards

2019-02-25 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
As a UL customer you can get the UL national deviations to IEC standards. You then have to stitch them together yourself. I've been a long time customer of Estonian Standards and recommend them. Mike Sherman Graco Inc. > On February 25, 2019 at 6:37 AM "Wiseman, Josh

Re: [PSES] Rating & WEEE markings on lithium-ion rechargeable battery

2019-02-20 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
Scott -- Don't forget that the Battery Directive requires that you provide customers with instructions on how to remove the battery at the end of life. Mike Sherman Graco Inc. > On February 20, 2019 at 11:06 AM Scott Xe wrote: > > The end product safety standards EN 6006

Re: [PSES] Intro to Safety

2019-02-15 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
_and_Safety.html?id=24Q0DwAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=kp_read_button#v=onepage&q&f=false Mike Sherman Graco Inc. > On February 15, 2019 at 1:15 PM Frank Tang > <0d3fa4ae712a-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org> wrote: > > Hi Compliance Peers, >

Re: [PSES] A question about FDA language and interlocking devices

2019-02-05 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
I see another probably more likely interpretation of "knife edge and finger stock" in this context. Look up a knife edge fuse on the internet. Presumably the socket the fuse seats in would be the finger stock. Mike Sherman Graco Inc. > On February 5, 2019 at 2:34 PM "Sch

Re: [PSES] A question about FDA language and interlocking devices

2019-02-05 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
Doug -- "knife-edge and finger stock" sounds more like the gasketing around the door to keep the radiation inside. I think you'll find similar gasketing on doors to EMC chambers. I've not heard of this term applied to interlock switches. Mike Sherman Graco Inc. > On

Re: [PSES] Brexit requirements for UK manufacturers.

2019-01-18 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
safety product. Mike Sherman Graco Inc. > On January 18, 2019 at 9:50 AM John Woodgate wrote: > > > So their certification is a sort of 'whitewash', nothing more, if, as you > say, they bear no responsibility for the product actually being safe. > > Best

[PSES] Marine Safety question

2018-11-01 Thread Sundstrom, Mike
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Re: [PSES] NFC (near field communication): FCC Approach?

2018-10-22 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
Thanks to all for the quick education! Now, follow up question: RED. Seems to me that this does use RF to communicate, so it seems to fall into scope of RED. Agree? Disagree? thanks, Mike > Re: [PSES] NFC (near field communication): FCC Approach?On October 20, 2018 > at 2:40 AM M

[PSES] NFC (near field communication): FCC Approach?

2018-10-19 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
uot; We're rating RF output as 0 mW (i.e., rounding off, it's a lot closer to 0 mW than to 1 mW). Looking forward once again to interesting wisdom from this group. Mike Sherman Graco Inc. - This message is from the IEEE Produ

Re: [PSES] Equipment EMI Issue

2018-09-26 Thread Mike Violette, P.E.
e the interference. Mike Michael Violette, P.E. Director American Certification Body mi...@wll.com +1 240-401-1388 > On Sep 26, 2018, at 9:52 AM, James Pawson (U3C) > wrote: > > Hi Robert, > > How have they identified conclusively that your equipment is responsible? > &

Re: [PSES] SEV Mark Required for Swiss Adapter Plug?

2018-08-03 Thread Mike Sherman
" How did you verify the certification to the IEC standards? " By reviewing a TRF provided by a test lab that also provided a 17025 cert. Mike - Original Message - From: "Mark Schmidt" To: "MIKE" , "EMC-PSTC" Sent: Friday, August 3,

[PSES] SEV Mark Required for Swiss Adapter Plug?

2018-08-03 Thread MIKE
I’m looking for an adapter plug that allows a Schuko plug to be connected to a grounded Swiss receptacle. I have found one that is certified to IEC 60884-1 and IEC 60884-2-5. It does not have an SEV mark. Is an SEV mark required for adapter plugs to be used in Switzerland?Thanks,Mike Sherman Graco

Re: [PSES] CE marking of machinery that moves about

2018-08-02 Thread Mike Sherman
professional off road mobile machinery. See Guideline to the RoHS directive for the finer points of this. Mike Sherman Graco Inc. - Original Message - From: "Pete Perkins" <0061f3f32d0c-dmarc-requ...@ieee.org> To: "EMC-PSTC" Sent: Thursday, August 2

Re: [PSES] Lithium Ion batteries - capacity measurement

2018-07-30 Thread Mike Sherman
IEC EN 61960:2011, superseded recently by IEC EN 61960-3, contains a standardized way to measure battery capacity. Preview of the latter is available at: https://www.evs.ee/preview/evs-en-61960-3-2017-en.pdf Mike Sherman Graco Inc. - Original Message - From: "Brian O'Con

[PSES] Italian Approval Marking on Power Cord

2018-07-20 Thread MIKE
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Re: [PSES] Handy tip for inserting symbols in document text.

2018-07-03 Thread MIKE
Brian —Good point to keep in mind! I was actually simply trying to do this for an internal document that is not too critical. Neat trick; frustrating that I couldn’t use it. Mike Sherman Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App-- Original Message --From: Brian O'ConnellTo: EMC

Re: [PSES] Handy tip for inserting symbols in document text.

2018-07-03 Thread Mike Sherman
references in my quest: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Unicode_characters and https://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U2600.pdf Thanks! Mike Sherman Graco Inc. - Original Message - From: "Richard Nute" To: "EMC-PSTC" Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2018 3:54:03 PM

Re: [PSES] Medical device risk assessment - faulty chargers

2018-04-11 Thread Mike Sherman
There are a number of documented cases of counterfeit or knock off Apple USB chargers that do not pass dielectric testing; a couple have been suspected in shock related deaths. This is an unstated background to this discussion. Mike Sherman Graco Inc. - Original Message - From

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