Re: [Emc-users] learning gcode

2010-04-16 Thread Chris Reynolds
Just wanted to say thank you to everyone that replied to my question about learning gcode. I really appreciate all the help and info that everyone passed along. Chris -- Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval Try the new

Re: [Emc-users] learning gcode

2010-04-16 Thread R.L. Wurdack
Over the past several issues there has been some good info in ""Digital Machinist"" magazine. D. - Original Message - From: "Chris Reynolds" To: Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 11:29 AM Subject: [Emc-users] learning gcode > Is there a good online reference or set of instructional materi

Re: [Emc-users] Old scales - any hope?

2010-04-16 Thread Jon Elson
sam sokolik wrote: > Thanks for the link - they seem to be compatible with the inductosyn > type scales.. That is a generation newer than our scales. I did email > them for s and g's - but have not heard back > Classic inductosyns have 3 windings. Linear inductosyns have one long zig-zag t

Re: [Emc-users] User to demanding. (Or just lost?)

2010-04-16 Thread Jon Elson
Slavko Kocjancic wrote: > In the documentation for estop latch from > http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.4/html/man/man9/estop_latch.9.html > is stated: > > While ok-out is true, watchdog toggles, and can be used for chargepumps or > similar needs. > > And I want just that! > > But in reality the watchdog

Re: [Emc-users] Old scales - any hope?

2010-04-16 Thread Jon Elson
sam sokolik wrote: > the main thing is that it is already on the machine... To replace them > with something new would require a total disassemble of the saddle and > table.. We will be using the encoders on the servos for position > initially - the scales will be more of an experiment... ;) >

Re: [Emc-users] Old scales - any hope?

2010-04-16 Thread sam sokolik
interesting. Chris found this - this is pretty close to the time frame of our machine. probably an eb (one newer iirc) http://www.google.com/patents?id=fhRaEBAJ&printsec=abstract&zoom=4&source=gbs_overview_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false sam Jan de Kruyf wrote: > Hello, > Unless I am very wro

Re: [Emc-users] Old scales - any hope?

2010-04-16 Thread Jan de Kruyf
Hello, Unless I am very wrong this patent is a non-flyer. The old G-E systems had a discriminator that measured the difference in phase between the command pulse train and the feed-back pulse train, and the output of the discriminator was the input to the drive amplifier. So how on earth you can in

Re: [Emc-users] Old scales - any hope?

2010-04-16 Thread sam sokolik
Thanks for the link - they seem to be compatible with the inductosyn type scales.. That is a generation newer than our scales. I did email them for s and g's - but have not heard back Dave wrote: > Sam did you get any info from that company in Detroit who has the > converter boxes? At the

Re: [Emc-users] learning gcode

2010-04-16 Thread Thomas Powderly
To learn gcode... run a machine and see the effects of the code ( later i show a free at home way to do this) make simple programs that use a tool, move along a line, an arc. by using a free simulator, you will see waht the basic codes mean. look at existing gcode programs ( again, there's a fr

Re: [Emc-users] learning gcode

2010-04-16 Thread Dave
If you are near a decent size public library, there are usually several books on CNC machining / Gcode on the shelves. Dave On 4/16/2010 2:29 PM, Chris Reynolds wrote: > Is there a good online reference or set of instructional materials for > learning about gcode and programming that I could c

Re: [Emc-users] Old scales - any hope?

2010-04-16 Thread Dave
Sam did you get any info from that company in Detroit who has the converter boxes? At the time, I thought the cost was reasonable considering it is a tested unit. Dave On 4/16/2010 2:00 PM, sam sokolik wrote: > the main thing is that it is already on the machine... To replace them > with so

[Emc-users] learning gcode

2010-04-16 Thread Chris Reynolds
Is there a good online reference or set of instructional materials for learning about gcode and programming that I could check out in addition to the gcode info on the emc page? I'm really wanting to learn how to get the most from my machine and my programs and my knowledge is limited. Chris -

Re: [Emc-users] User to demanding. (Or just lost?)

2010-04-16 Thread Slavko Kocjancic
2010/4/16 Jon Elson > Slavko Kocjancic wrote: > > I just enter git diff and got as I see teh estop latch should be working > now > > > Can you describe what you have changed in estop-latch and what the side > effects are? > I use estop-latch with all my products. The watchdog in that case is in

Re: [Emc-users] Old scales - any hope?

2010-04-16 Thread sam sokolik
the main thing is that it is already on the machine... To replace them with something new would require a total disassemble of the saddle and table.. We will be using the encoders on the servos for position initially - the scales will be more of an experiment... ;) We just found this... http:/

Re: [Emc-users] Old scales - any hope?

2010-04-16 Thread Jon Elson
Andy Pugh wrote: > > However, I think just applying a 250Hz square wave and an oscilloscope > should at least tell you what comes out of the terminals and then you > can figure it out from there. A $15 Arduino with a power OP amp can > produce the excitation, sample the output, time it to 62nS reso

Re: [Emc-users] Update on EMC at NAMES 2010

2010-04-16 Thread Jon Elson
Matt Shaver wrote: > Sadly, I'm not going to make NAMES this year. I've been doing a lot of > driving lately and I've just got to have a stretch of "home time" or I > will go nuts! > I am also going to skip NAMES this year. I have a BUNCH of stuff to do here, and haven't really made anything n

Re: [Emc-users] Old scales - any hope?

2010-04-16 Thread Kasey Matejcek
If you need More of these I have 2 sets from a 13"X 13" Decided it was easer to fix encoders to the back of the servo motors than to use those style encoders -Original Message- From: sam sokolik [mailto:sa...@empirescreen.com] Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 9:02 AM To: Enhanced Machine Cont

Re: [Emc-users] Old scales - any hope?

2010-04-16 Thread Jon Elson
sam sokolik wrote: > Here are some more pictures... (top red thing is the read head) > http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/accpinset1.jpg > http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/accpinset.jpg > > This is how I understand it as of today ;) > > There are 4 coils - they ar

Re: [Emc-users] User to demanding. (Or just lost?)

2010-04-16 Thread Jon Elson
Slavko Kocjancic wrote: > I just enter git diff and got as I see teh estop latch should be working now > Can you describe what you have changed in estop-latch and what the side effects are? I use estop-latch with all my products. The watchdog in that case is in the external hardware, so I don

Re: [Emc-users] Update on EMC at NAMES 2010

2010-04-16 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
Matt Shaver wrote: > I _really_ look forward to seeing all of you at the CNC Workshop in > June. I hope to focus most of my time there on testing. I'll probably > be able to drag over some machines from Smithy and just exercise as > many EMC2 features as possible. I also hope to produce notes for t

Re: [Emc-users] Update on EMC at NAMES 2010

2010-04-16 Thread Matt Shaver
On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 09:24:36 -0400 Dale Grover wrote: > Matt Shaver and I will be doing two seminars about EMC, one per day, > at the NAMES Expo. April 24-25. <...> > I think Matt is doing Saturday, and I'm doing Sunday. Sadly, I'm not going to make NAMES this year. I've been doing a lot of d

Re: [Emc-users] Old scales - any hope?

2010-04-16 Thread Andy Pugh
On 16 April 2010 15:19, sam sokolik wrote: > > Here is how the head lines up with the pins (showing that 2 heads line > up and 2 are .05 off.) > http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/accupinlineup.jpg I was just about to ask that question... The inductance of each coil depends on how

Re: [Emc-users] Old scales - any hope?

2010-04-16 Thread sam sokolik
Here is how the head lines up with the pins (showing that 2 heads line up and 2 are .05 off.) http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/accupinlineup.jpg Also I made a mistake in the previous email - the excitation signal going to the heads is 250hz - not 250khz On 4/16/2010 09:02 AM, sa

Re: [Emc-users] Old scales - any hope?

2010-04-16 Thread sam sokolik
Here are some more pictures... (top red thing is the read head) http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/accpinset1.jpg http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/accpinset.jpg This is how I understand it as of today ;) There are 4 coils - they are hooked up in a center tap con

Re: [Emc-users] Tool Crash when STOP

2010-04-16 Thread Dave
On 4/16/2010 4:51 AM, Michał Geszkiewicz wrote: > Hi, > > This bug was also yesterday fixed in 2.4~pre branch > > http://git.linuxcnc.org/gitweb?p=emc2.git;a=commitdiff;h=06b93f6f > > > thanks for reporting this bug! > > regards, > Michael > > ---

Re: [Emc-users] User to demanding. (Or just lost?)

2010-04-16 Thread Slavko Kocjancic
I downloaded from scratch the 2.5~pre master Seems that move when stop problem is solved. The estop_latch stil doesn't work as should. Here is patch I made (only one line changed in source) and don't know how to post it. sla...@emc2:~/emc2-git$ git diff diff --git a/src/hal/components/estop_lat

Re: [Emc-users] User to demanding. (Or just lost?)

2010-04-16 Thread Slavko Kocjancic
Andy Pugh pravi: > On 16 April 2010 11:50, Slavko Kocjancic wrote: > > >> Now I'm totaly lost. What version to use? Is there "safe" version? >> > > 2.3.5 is the "Safe" released version, but as you have found it lacks > some features. > It does seem that you have a knack for needing unusual

Re: [Emc-users] User to demanding. (Or just lost?)

2010-04-16 Thread Slavko Kocjancic
Andy Pugh pravi: > (Note that I am not a developer, nor do I speak for the developers) > > As I understand it, 2.4 is now frozen, there will be no new features > added, just bugfixes prior to release. > Probably you have right here. > Look on the bright side, if you used one of the closed-sour

Re: [Emc-users] User to demanding. (Or just lost?)

2010-04-16 Thread Andy Pugh
On 16 April 2010 12:41, Slavko Kocjancic wrote: > As you already know I have custom stepgen and is only in 2.5~ > Is there some way to include that in nex release of 2.4? (Note that I am not a developer, nor do I speak for the developers) As I understand it, 2.4 is now frozen, there will be no

Re: [Emc-users] User to demanding. (Or just lost?)

2010-04-16 Thread John Thornton
Andy Pugh wrote: > and I haven't figured > out how to view the 2.4 documents to find out. (As a 2.4~pre user it > would be quite nice to know) > > The 2.4 docs are online on the Documents page. If you installed 2.4 from a deb then the docs are on your computer all ready. John ---

Re: [Emc-users] User to demanding. (Or just lost?)

2010-04-16 Thread Andy Pugh
On 16 April 2010 11:50, Slavko Kocjancic wrote: > Now I'm totaly lost. What version to use? Is there "safe" version? 2.3.5 is the "Safe" released version, but as you have found it lacks some features. It does seem that you have a knack for needing unusual features. Michał Geszkiewicz said a day

Re: [Emc-users] User to demanding. (Or just lost?)

2010-04-16 Thread Slavko Kocjancic
just paste incomplete text here is all sla...@emc2:~/emc2-git$ git diff diff --git a/src/hal/components/estop_latch.comp b/src/hal/c index 2a1e0dd..390a639 100644 --- a/src/hal/components/estop_latch.comp +++ b/src/hal/components/estop_latch.comp @@ -22,7 +22,7 @@ FUNCTION(_) { fault_o

Re: [Emc-users] User to demanding. (Or just lost?)

2010-04-16 Thread Slavko Kocjancic
I just enter git diff and got as I see teh estop latch should be working now sla...@emc2:~/emc2-git$ git diff diff --git a/src/hal/components/estop_latch.comp b/src/hal/c index 2a1e0dd..390a639 100644 --- a/src/hal/components/estop_latch.comp +++ b/src/hal/components/estop_latch.comp @@ -22,7 +22

Re: [Emc-users] User to demanding. (Or just lost?)

2010-04-16 Thread Slavko Kocjancic
Michał Geszkiewicz pravi: > How to use git: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Git > > Let say you have clean 'git clone' source. > > Latest stable release is 2.3.5 and it's officaly released. > To get it in our source dir: > git branch --track v2_3_branch origin/v2_3_branch > git chec

Re: [Emc-users] User to demanding. (Or just lost?)

2010-04-16 Thread Michał Geszkiewicz
Slavko Kocjancic pisze: > Hello... > > Now I'm totaly lost. What version to use? Is there "safe" version? > > I'm sorry I was not clear.. How to use git: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Git Let say you have clean 'git clone' source. Latest stable release is 2.3.5 and it's officaly

[Emc-users] User to demanding. (Or just lost?)

2010-04-16 Thread Slavko Kocjancic
Hello... Now I'm totaly lost. What version to use? Is there "safe" version? The story.. I hit (expensive) bug in 2.5.0~pre check [Emc-users] Tool Crash when STOP So I go back to 2.3.5 and recompile with latest stepgen.c Now another thing doesn't work see [Emc-users] Unhome on ESTOP Someone poi

Re: [Emc-users] Unhome on ESTOP

2010-04-16 Thread Michał Geszkiewicz
Use 2.4.0~pre, there are all bugfixed there now, and it has unhome pins in halui. Only copy stepgen.c from master to use custom steps. regards, Michael Slavko Kocjancic pisze: > Michał Geszkiewicz pravi: > >> You should use VOLATILE_HOME ini file option to make it work. >> http://www.linuxc

Re: [Emc-users] Unhome on ESTOP

2010-04-16 Thread Slavko Kocjancic
Andy Pugh pravi: > On 16 April 2010 09:30, Slavko Kocjancic wrote: > > >> I find best >> solution is to flag axis as unhomed to force rehoming. >> Just can't find right pin where to connect estop button to clear homed flag. >> > > http://www.linuxcnc.org/docview/devel/html//gui_halui.html

Re: [Emc-users] Unhome on ESTOP

2010-04-16 Thread Slavko Kocjancic
Michał Geszkiewicz pravi: > You should use VOLATILE_HOME ini file option to make it work. > http://www.linuxcnc.org/docview/devel/html//config_ini_config.html , > section 2.2.9.1 > > Regards, > Michael > > btw.. I want to unhome only for estop not regular stop. ---

Re: [Emc-users] Unhome on ESTOP

2010-04-16 Thread Slavko Kocjancic
Michał Geszkiewicz pravi: > You should use VOLATILE_HOME ini file option to make it work. > http://www.linuxcnc.org/docview/devel/html//config_ini_config.html , > section 2.2.9.1 > > Regards, > Michael > Doesn't work. I use 2.3.5 now as 2.5.0~pre has danger bug (machine uncontrolled move when

Re: [Emc-users] Unhome on ESTOP

2010-04-16 Thread Andy Pugh
On 16 April 2010 09:30, Slavko Kocjancic wrote: > I find best > solution is to flag axis as unhomed to force rehoming. > Just can't find right pin where to connect estop button to clear homed flag. http://www.linuxcnc.org/docview/devel/html//gui_halui.html says "halui.joint..unhome (bit, in) -

Re: [Emc-users] Tool Crash when STOP

2010-04-16 Thread Michał Geszkiewicz
Hi, This bug was also yesterday fixed in 2.4~pre branch http://git.linuxcnc.org/gitweb?p=emc2.git;a=commitdiff;h=06b93f6f thanks for reporting this bug! regards, Michael -- Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval Try the

Re: [Emc-users] Unhome on ESTOP

2010-04-16 Thread Michał Geszkiewicz
You should use VOLATILE_HOME ini file option to make it work. http://www.linuxcnc.org/docview/devel/html//config_ini_config.html , section 2.2.9.1 Regards, Michael Alex Joni pisze: > Hi, > > this has been just fixed in git for 2.4~pre > > http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=emc2.git;a=commitdiff;h=6794

Re: [Emc-users] Unhome on ESTOP

2010-04-16 Thread Alex Joni
Hi, this has been just fixed in git for 2.4~pre http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=emc2.git;a=commitdiff;h=67944f4 Regards, Alex - Original Message - From: "Slavko Kocjancic" To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 11:30 AM Subject: [Emc-users] Unhome on ESTOP

[Emc-users] Unhome on ESTOP

2010-04-16 Thread Slavko Kocjancic
Hello... I looking for solution how to "unhome" machine if Estop button is pressed. If I pressed ESTOP the power to the motor's are killed. So when I relase estop and engage power the position on display is wrong. I find best solution is to flag axis as unhomed to force rehoming. Just can't find

Re: [Emc-users] ESTOP latch BUG - Solved

2010-04-16 Thread Slavko Kocjancic
Slavko Kocjancic pravi: > The next problem is that latch itself doesn't do right job! > The watchdog is active if input's are ok and latch not trigered. > Ie I watch with hallmeter the output pin from estop latch. It does right > thing. > ie if ok.in and fault.in are correct and reset signal appli

Re: [Emc-users] ESTOP latch

2010-04-16 Thread Slavko Kocjancic
Alex Joni pravi: > Try starting from a terminal, and check for the error message. > Alternatively look in dmesg for errors. > > Regards, > Alex > > > On 4/15/2010 4:47 PM, Slavko Kocjancic wrote: >> Hello... >> >> Does estop latch works in emc2 2.3.5? >> >> I try to load it in my hal file >> >> #th