[Emc-users] 5i20 Servo and General Input / Output

2010-09-29 Thread Caner
Hi, I want to use one Mesa 5i20 for a 6 axis servo controller. I thought to use two 7i33 Servo Interface for axes. So i thought that i would be using HostMot2's 8-channel servo plus 4 step/dir generators option. However it writes 4step/dir generators, i don't need any step/dir generators, so do i

Re: [Emc-users] Old Iron in Redmond

2010-09-29 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2010/9/29 Dave e...@dc9.tzo.com: Viesturs, OK... I have to ask...  so the casino box - Mach3 - is his most likely choice :)) Why do you call it the casino box?? I've never heard that before. Because, IMHO it looks like that. The buttons and virtual LEDs have blinging contours, personally

Re: [Emc-users] Old Iron in Redmond

2010-09-29 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2010/9/28 doug metzler doug.metz...@gmail.com: Hmm, I think you're not seeing the bigger picture.  He's not doing this to recover his costs.  He doesn't care about the money.  He's doing this to try to bring about the revival of the hard manufacturing base in the US.  His goal is not to build

Re: [Emc-users] Cinci/Enshu progress report

2010-09-29 Thread Mark Wendt (Contractor)
At 10:53 PM 9/28/2010, you wrote: Gentlemen, I am a happy camper. Jeremy came in my office with a quiet voice to give me a report on how the Cinci cut the big plate with all the holes with a +-.002 location tolerance. I thought OH NO we have problems. He then smiled and said it nailed all the

Re: [Emc-users] Using Ethernet to communicate with components

2010-09-29 Thread dambacher-retrofit.de
Am 29.09.2010 04:55, schrieb Igor Chudov: What are the implications of this for EMC? The most interesting thing for this is that with emc you can mix the old analog drives whatever they are with modern digital ones. This way you are able to only partly renew your machine and have a highly

Re: [Emc-users] Documentation for spindle-rpm-filtered?

2010-09-29 Thread Andy Pugh
On 29 September 2010 09:32, Steve Blackmore st...@pilotltd.net wrote: I'll try stepconf again, see if it's improved any and put's the other required half in the hal file.. I would be surprised if it did. There was also a fatal flaw in the hal code I posted; no source for the speed signal.

Re: [Emc-users] Old Iron in Redmond

2010-09-29 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 11:46:55 +0300, you wrote: 2010/9/29 Dave e...@dc9.tzo.com: Viesturs, OK... I have to ask... ??so the casino box - Mach3 - is his most likely choice :)) Why do you call it the casino box?? I've never heard that before. Because, IMHO it looks like that. The buttons

Re: [Emc-users] Documentation for spindle-rpm-filtered?

2010-09-29 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 00:04:16 +0100, you wrote: On 28 September 2010 23:48, Steve Blackmore st...@pilotltd.net wrote: Is there any documentation for spindle-rpm-filtered ?? No. It is a signal name, and the next paragraph says assuming that spindle-rpm-filtered already exists Yes, but the

Re: [Emc-users] 5i20 Servo and General Input / Output

2010-09-29 Thread Belli Button
Hi Caner, Use the 7I48 which is a six axis card, this will open up one port for an additional 24I/O. Use the 5i23 card as it supercedes the 5I20, it has twice the number of gates which will come in handy later. Greg - Original Message - From: Caner cnr...@gmail.com To: emc-users

[Emc-users] Stepconf bugs

2010-09-29 Thread Steve Blackmore
Tried stepconf again this morning, a couple of bugs and suggestions Bugs Test base period from within Stepconf locks PC up completely, needs hard reset! Save shortcut on desktop produces a .desktop launcher file on desktop that fails to run with Untrusted application - It also has the wrong

Re: [Emc-users] 5i20 Servo and General Input / Output

2010-09-29 Thread Caner
Hi Belli, Thank you for your suggest but i don't know EMC2 supports 7i48's multiplexed encoders, if EMC2 supports 7i48, you are right about that it is better to use it. Do you use 7i48? On Wed, 2010-09-29 at 12:36 +0200, Belli Button wrote: Hi Caner, Use the 7I48 which is a six axis card,

Re: [Emc-users] 5i20 Servo and General Input / Output

2010-09-29 Thread Andy Pugh
On 29 September 2010 09:29, Caner cnr...@gmail.com wrote: I want to use one Mesa 5i20 for a 6 axis servo controller. I thought to use two 7i33 Servo Interface for axes. So i thought that i would be using HostMot2's 8-channel servo plus 4 step/dir generators option. However it writes 4step/dir

Re: [Emc-users] Old Iron in Redmond

2010-09-29 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2010/9/29 Andy Pugh a...@andypugh.fsnet.co.uk: On 29 September 2010 09:46, Viesturs Lācis viesturs.la...@gmail.com wrote: Why do you call it the casino box?? Because, IMHO it looks like that. The buttons and virtual LEDs have blinging contours, personally I do not like that. I suspect that

Re: [Emc-users] touch screen with EMC2

2010-09-29 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Rudy, Would you try to publish the procedure for setting up your touchscreen? I believe you meant the /usr/lib/X11/xorg.conf.d directory instead of the /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d. Letting us know how you did it is much more helpful than just telling us it is possible. thanks Stuart On Wed, Sep

Re: [Emc-users] Please contribute to Wikipedia article about EMC2

2010-09-29 Thread Andy Pugh
On 29 September 2010 04:09, Igor Chudov ichu...@gmail.com wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enhanced_Motion_Controller Is it Motion or Machine ? I think I am a bit too much of a newbie to contribute anything to the page, but I am glad to see the page created. -- atp

Re: [Emc-users] Old Iron in Redmond

2010-09-29 Thread Stuart Stevenson
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 3:46 AM, Viesturs Lācis viesturs.la...@gmail.comwrote: 2010/9/29 Dave e...@dc9.tzo.com: Viesturs, That was meant to be a joke. But, if seriously, how do those win-based controllers achieve working in real-time? I don't know about now but when MDSI went to

Re: [Emc-users] 5i20 Servo and General Input / Output

2010-09-29 Thread James Louis
Slightly off topic: Speaking of the Mesa 5i23 (and forgive me for weaving 2 threads together, but . . .) has anybody ever used the PC104 version of this card? The reason I ask is because a company called Axiomtek makes a touchscreen with a PC104 port. The combined hardware part numbers would

Re: [Emc-users] Please contribute to Wikipedia article about EMC2

2010-09-29 Thread Alex Joni
It's Enhanced Machine Controller - EMC Regards, Alex - Original Message - From: Andy Pugh a...@andypugh.fsnet.co.uk To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 3:12 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Please contribute to Wikipedia

Re: [Emc-users] Please contribute to Wikipedia article about EMC2

2010-09-29 Thread Igor Chudov
article renamed On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 7:51 AM, Alex Joni alex.j...@robcon.ro wrote: It's Enhanced Machine Controller - EMC Regards, Alex - Original Message - From: Andy Pugh a...@andypugh.fsnet.co.uk To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent:

Re: [Emc-users] Please contribute to Wikipedia article about EMC2

2010-09-29 Thread Alex Joni
Sometime around 2004 these volunteers took the EMC project to the next stage: relocated it to sourceforge.net under the GPL license and the volunteer community-based development model, and gave it the new name, EMC2. That is not quite correct. The result of NIST's work is work under Public

Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen setup

2010-09-29 Thread Rudy du Preez
Stuart I sent the email this morning from my office. I was planning to give more detail tonight when I am home. I will delve out the details and post it tonight. Hopefully it will useful to the group. Rudy -- Start

Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen setup

2010-09-29 Thread Stuart Stevenson
very good - thank you very much On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Rudy du Preez r...@asmsa.co.za wrote: Stuart I sent the email this morning from my office. I was planning to give more detail tonight when I am home. I will delve out the details and post it tonight. Hopefully it will useful

Re: [Emc-users] touch screen with EMC2

2010-09-29 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 07:01:16 -0500, you wrote: Rudy, Would you try to publish the procedure for setting up your touchscreen? I believe you meant the /usr/lib/X11/xorg.conf.d directory instead of the /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d. Hehe - there's the rub, there are already three places it could be, and

Re: [Emc-users] 5i20 Servo and General Input / Output

2010-09-29 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On 09/29/2010 06:32 AM, James Louis wrote: Slightly off topic: Speaking of the Mesa 5i23 (and forgive me for weaving 2 threads together, but . . .) has anybody ever used the PC104 version of this card? The reason I ask is because a company called Axiomtek makes a touchscreen with a PC104

Re: [Emc-users] Using Ethernet to communicate with components

2010-09-29 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Wed, 29 Sep 2010, dambacher-retrofit.de wrote: Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 08:40:24 +0200 From: dambacher-retrofit.de i...@dambacher-retrofit.de Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net

Re: [Emc-users] 5i20 Servo and General Input / Output

2010-09-29 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Wed, 29 Sep 2010, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 08:50:12 -0600 From: Sebastian Kuzminsky s...@highlab.com Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re:

Re: [Emc-users] retrofitting a maho

2010-09-29 Thread Peter Teurlings
Thanks a lot, I see that you connected all the RF an JF together. is this so everything get's enabled? I just put a single pulse on it at startup so everything gets enabled? 2010/9/26 dambacher-retrofit.de i...@dambacher-retrofit.de: Hi Peter I had to find my wiring plans, Sorry for the

Re: [Emc-users] 5i20 Servo and General Input / Output

2010-09-29 Thread James Louis
If the 4i68 is a PC104 version of the 5i20 would the sample EMC2 config for that work? Is it more complicated than just switching buses? - Original Message - From: Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wed Sep 29

Re: [Emc-users] 5i20 Servo and General Input / Output

2010-09-29 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Wed, 29 Sep 2010, James Louis wrote: Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 10:28:08 -0500 From: James Louis james.lo...@gastechnology.org Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re:

Re: [Emc-users] Old Iron in Redmond

2010-09-29 Thread craig
I emailed the toltmachineworks people and got a replys cc to them since they were looking didn't find info. Craig Messge 1 - Hi Craig, I'll go take a look at the EMC site. Our schedule for the CMM is pretty aggressive but we really do have a top notch team working on thst and

Re: [Emc-users] 5i20 Servo and General Input / Output

2010-09-29 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On 09/29/2010 09:28 AM, James Louis wrote: If the 4i68 is a PC104 version of the 5i20 would the sample EMC2 config for that work? Is it more complicated than just switching buses? There are two sample configs for the 4i68 (in hm2-stepper and hm2-servo), and yes, they're almost identical

Re: [Emc-users] Old Iron in Redmond

2010-09-29 Thread Dave
Yep, Venturecom came out with Windows RTX running on Windows NT a long time ago. I think that same software package or company has been bought and sold now 2 or 3 times. Here it is... http://www.intervalzero.com/ About two years ago I inquired about the price per copy of Windows RTX running

Re: [Emc-users] Old Iron in Redmond

2010-09-29 Thread Dave
I get it I'm not much of a casino gambler as you can tell.. Dave On 9/29/2010 7:50 AM, Viesturs Lācis wrote: 2010/9/29 Andy Pugha...@andypugh.fsnet.co.uk: On 29 September 2010 09:46, Viesturs Lācisviesturs.la...@gmail.com wrote: Why do you call it the casino box??

Re: [Emc-users] Encoder as MPG over serial?

2010-09-29 Thread Colin Kingsbury
For anyone who was curious, I figured this out last night and it turned out to be a lot easier than I thought. Basically, all I needed to do was use the MPG howto from the wiki ( http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Hooking_Up_A_MPG_Pendant), and instead of mapping the encoder inputs to the

Re: [Emc-users] 5i20 Servo and General Input / Output

2010-09-29 Thread Caner
Does HostMot2 support 7i48 daughter board? On Wed, 2010-09-29 at 08:31 -0700, Peter C. Wallace wrote: On Wed, 29 Sep 2010, James Louis wrote: Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 10:28:08 -0500 From: James Louis james.lo...@gastechnology.org Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)

Re: [Emc-users] Encoder as MPG over serial?

2010-09-29 Thread Edward Bernard
Colin- Your post was quite timely for me as I just recieved an Arduino with the intention of creating exactly the same setup for my gantry router. If you could share your code it would be a tremendous help and quite possibly save me from having my head explode. :) Thanks, Greg

Re: [Emc-users] Old Iron in Redmond

2010-09-29 Thread Dave
Hmm, I think you're not seeing the bigger picture. He's not doing this to recover his costs. He doesn't care about the money. If he doesn't care about the money, he is destined to fail. Unless he has Bill Gates covering his backside with $, the likelihood of this one guy opening a shop in

Re: [Emc-users] Old Iron in Redmond

2010-09-29 Thread Igor Chudov
I have a feeling that this guy is not as stupid as I originally thought. I realized that he tries to find equipment, that, essenstially, no one else has (like those giant CMMs), and do jobs that could not likely be replicated overseas due to shipping issues.

Re: [Emc-users] 5i20 Servo and General Input / Output

2010-09-29 Thread Andy Pugh
On 29 September 2010 17:16, Caner cnr...@gmail.com wrote: Does HostMot2 support 7i48 daughter board? http://git.linuxcnc.org/gitweb?p=emc2.git;a=commit;h=da0d5aa5563de8dc7f8f3a87044bd62e1ade5326 Suggests so (though I am not clear if it is in the main branch, or just the development branch) --

Re: [Emc-users] Old Iron in Redmond

2010-09-29 Thread Eric H. Johnson
snip I used to work with some Siemens software that ran on Windows RTX and it was very stable. Chrysler has several transmission assembly lines that are run via PCs. The software is based on Siemens soft S7 PLC software engine. Siemens MMI software runs on the same PC and hooks in the

Re: [Emc-users] Old Iron in Redmond

2010-09-29 Thread Jon Elson
Stuart Stevenson wrote: I just get that vibe from this, there will be NO hobby-level stuff anywhere in the shop. except Windoze - except Windows is not even hobby level Well, the way the PC-based commercial control use it, Windows is just a file loader, all the real work is done in

Re: [Emc-users] Cinci/Enshu progress report

2010-09-29 Thread Jon Elson
Stuart Stevenson wrote: Gentlemen, I am a happy camper. Jeremy came in my office with a quiet voice to give me a report on how the Cinci cut the big plate with all the holes with a +-.002 location tolerance. I thought OH NO we have problems. He then smiled and said it nailed all the

Re: [Emc-users] Using Ethernet to communicate with components

2010-09-29 Thread Jon Elson
Igor Chudov wrote: I think that the trend in industrial machines, is to use Ethernet as much as possible inside industrial machines. On the surface, it appears to be a very attractive option, with all devices hooked up to the network switch and communicating seamlessly, without the mess of

Re: [Emc-users] Cinci/Enshu progress report

2010-09-29 Thread Stuart Stevenson
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com wrote: If there are gears between the spindle and motor, then you have a backlash problem when the spindle reverses. Check out http://pico-systems.com/bridge_spindle.html to see how I put an encoder on a spindle that was

Re: [Emc-users] Using Ethernet to communicate with components

2010-09-29 Thread Igor Chudov
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 12:36 PM, Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com wrote: Igor Chudov wrote: I think that the trend in industrial machines, is to use Ethernet as much as possible inside industrial machines. On the surface, it appears to be a very attractive option, with all devices hooked up

Re: [Emc-users] Old Iron in Redmond

2010-09-29 Thread Jon Elson
Youda He wrote: Just curious, what high end controller can do that EMC2 can't? is the high end controller more tightly integrated? Faster? They may have better setup and configuration programs than EMC. We have that now for stepper configurations, but not servo. Some of these controls

Re: [Emc-users] Please contribute to Wikipedia article about EMC2

2010-09-29 Thread Jon Elson
Andy Pugh wrote: On 29 September 2010 04:09, Igor Chudov ichu...@gmail.com wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enhanced_Motion_Controller Is it Motion or Machine ? It is definitely MACHINE, I have old docs from the early NIST work that say that. Jon

Re: [Emc-users] Old Iron in Redmond

2010-09-29 Thread Jon Elson
craig wrote: I emailed the toltmachineworks people and got a replys cc to them since they were looking didn't find info. OOPS! My He's NUTS post was not meant to be seen by Craig! Ah, well, that's the internet for you! He ought to get in touch with Stuart, or at least be made aware of

Re: [Emc-users] Old Iron in Redmond

2010-09-29 Thread dave
I did that ( Stuart) about an hour ago. BTW - He is not in the high rent district. Looks like mixed industrial and farm land. Try google earth. I drive 203 fairly often, will have to take a look next time I go by. I hope he is not on the flood plain. Dave On Wed, 2010-09-29 at 13:06 -0500,

Re: [Emc-users] Please contribute to Wikipedia article about EMC2

2010-09-29 Thread Anders Wallin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enhanced_Motion_Controller It would be best if you do it while logged on into a Wikipedia account. We need to put up an original page that is at least adequate, so that it would not be removed. someone was asking for third-party references. Digging up scientific

[Emc-users] history of emc

2010-09-29 Thread Kent A. Reed
Gentle persons: Since there is interest in gathering information for a new Wikipedia article on EMC and since there has been some gratuitous O/S bashing going on recently, I thought I would kill two birds with one stone by recommending y'all read (or reread) the NIST report Enhanced Machine

Re: [Emc-users] retrofitting a maho

2010-09-29 Thread dambacher-retrofit.de
Am 29.09.2010 17:14, schrieb Peter Teurlings: Thanks a lot, I see that you connected all the RF an JF together. is this so everything get's enabled? I just put a single pulse on it at startup so everything gets enabled? I have the full wiring of this. No you need a steady 24V signal to

Re: [Emc-users] Using Ethernet to communicate with components

2010-09-29 Thread dambacher-retrofit.de
Am 29.09.2010 19:36, schrieb Jon Elson: Igor Chudov wrote: I think that the trend in industrial machines, is to use Ethernet as much as possible inside industrial machines. On the surface, it appears to be a very attractive option, with all devices hooked up to the network switch and

Re: [Emc-users] Using Ethernet to communicate with components

2010-09-29 Thread Frank Tkalcevic
for communication with my PPMC boards, and the general consensus among some people who worked with RT ethernet was that the idea of send request, get response, send update all in one millisecond, was just not possible. I've been playing around with this a bit. My plan was to build a simple

Re: [Emc-users] Using Ethernet to communicate with components

2010-09-29 Thread Jon Elson
Igor Chudov wrote: Things may have somewhat improved. I checked on my unsophisticated home network. Ping time (roundtrip), involving three switches (one in my basement office, then the main switch at the main interconnect in the utility room, then the switch in the family room), and two

Re: [Emc-users] history of emc

2010-09-29 Thread Jon Elson
Kent A. Reed wrote: Had a similar product for Windows NT been available to the project, Windows NT would have been included in the mix. I believe they DID try out one of the commercial RT extensions for NT, and found it to be awful. They had one second latencies several times a day. Jon

Re: [Emc-users] Lucid Based Live CD Failure on N15235 Intel Atom Motherboard

2010-09-29 Thread Speaker To-Dirt
Hi All: I was on the linuxCNC.org website and could not find a place to post an issue. I experienced a failure with the Lucid based live CD image on my new Atom based motherboard. Steps Taken. 1. Downloaded Ubuntu 10.04 based live cd image. 2. Used UNetbootin to make a turn this into a

Re: [Emc-users] Please contribute to Wikipedia article about EMC2

2010-09-29 Thread Igor Chudov
Wow, I have looked at the Wikipedia article, it is a beautiful piece now! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enhanced_Machine_Controller It looks like it will not be deleted, after all. Many thanks to all who submitted their edits, references etc!!11 i On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 7:12

Re: [Emc-users] Please contribute to Wikipedia article about EMC2

2010-09-29 Thread Jon Elson
Igor Chudov wrote: Wow, I have looked at the Wikipedia article, it is a beautiful piece now! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enhanced_Machine_Controller No, not even CLOSE to beautiful! But, it is much better than before. I think it could still use a good deal more detail. The list of