Re: [Emc-users] Sandy box

2015-06-05 Thread Alexander Rössler
Rafael writes: > On 06/04/2015 07:13 AM, Ron Bean wrote: >>> If you need one computer to see the GUI and one for realtime >>> effects, why not just start out with a real computer and load Linux and >>> LinuxCNC on it? > > This "little box" with supporting software on BBB and PC side is very > go

Re: [Emc-users] password

2015-06-05 Thread andy pugh
On 5 June 2015 at 02:23, jeremy youngs wrote: > Just reloaded deb7 2.6 was running 2.4 . 2 installs got me running > setup stepconfig with previous numbers. Logged in just fine all worked. > Shut down went to eat came back restarted and it days wring password its > the same as I always use .

Re: [Emc-users] Sandy box

2015-06-05 Thread Mark Wendt
On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 3:44 PM, Dave Cole wrote: > On 6/4/2015 3:34 PM, Viesturs Lācis wrote: > > BTW no need for tethering, it is done over the [wireless] network > > Right.. that's what I meant. > > Dave > Maybe it's just me, but I get kinda nervous when I see machines controlled via wireless.

Re: [Emc-users] Sandy box

2015-06-05 Thread Mark Wendt
On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 4:20 PM, John Alexander Stewart wrote: > > > I am more excited about the possibility of having numerous cnc > > machines, each doing some lengthy job (for example, 3d printer doing a > > 20+ hour print) and I can use one device for all GUIs > > > I do this by exporting the

Re: [Emc-users] Sandy box

2015-06-05 Thread Mark Wendt
On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 7:12 PM, Gregg Eshelman wrote: > On 6/4/2015 6:32 AM, Mark Wendt wrote: > > > Sounds like they're addressing one problem by effectively creating > another > > problem. If you need one computer to see the GUI and one for realtime > > effects, why not just start out with a r

Re: [Emc-users] Sandy box

2015-06-05 Thread Mark Wendt
On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 7:47 PM, Gregg Eshelman wrote: > On 6/4/2015 12:26 PM, Mark Wendt wrote: > > > OK, perhaps I should have said another computer, rather than another PC. > > Androids are computers. Still, you need another machine to run the > machine > > that runs the machine. > > Androids

Re: [Emc-users] password

2015-06-05 Thread John Thornton
That tripped me up at first on Wheezy I kept typing in my password in the user name dialog. On 6/5/2015 3:46 AM, andy pugh wrote: > On 5 June 2015 at 02:23, jeremy youngs wrote: >> Just reloaded deb7 2.6 was running 2.4 . 2 installs got me running >> setup stepconfig with previous numbers. L

Re: [Emc-users] Powerhawk VTC-150 Mill Conversion Nearing Completion

2015-06-05 Thread Rick Lair
That is pretty sweet, is the ladder very complex? We are at the point on our Cincinnati Milacron of getting the tool changer working, and this a carbon copy of how our machine works. I have the changer arm working about 80%, but I am not real sure how to get the carousel working into the mix.

Re: [Emc-users] Powerhawk VTC-150 Mill Conversion Nearing Completion

2015-06-05 Thread John Thornton
I have a classicladder sim of a lathe turret tool changer that might shed some light on the subject. http://gnipsel.com/linuxcnc/index.html JT On 6/5/2015 6:28 AM, Rick Lair wrote: > That is pretty sweet, is the ladder very complex? > > We are at the point on our Cincinnati Milacron of getting

Re: [Emc-users] 4-jaw scroll chucks. Do they actually work? : And angle

2015-06-05 Thread Erik Christiansen
grinders Reply-To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net In-Reply-To: On 04.06.15 10:50, andy pugh wrote: > I know how the _operate_. I don't understand how they _work_ > It seems that the clamped-together assembly of scroll, jaws and work > ought to be free to rattle around as a unit inside the main

Re: [Emc-users] Powerhawk VTC-150 Mill Conversion Nearing Completion

2015-06-05 Thread Comcast
Hi Chris, Congratulations! It looks good. I remember having to cover the table with thick cardboard in case it dropped the tool (which it did) when we were just getting into it. It's come a long way. Ian Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 4, 2015, at 11:01 AM, Chris Kelley wrote: > > Greetings

Re: [Emc-users] Sandy box

2015-06-05 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 05 June 2015 05:15:12 Mark Wendt wrote: > On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 7:47 PM, Gregg Eshelman wrote: > > On 6/4/2015 12:26 PM, Mark Wendt wrote: > > > OK, perhaps I should have said another computer, rather than > > > another PC. Androids are computers. Still, you need another > > > machine

Re: [Emc-users] Sandy box

2015-06-05 Thread John Alexander Stewart
On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 8:42 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > One thing I haven't noted yet, no on has mentioned the price of this > little box? Gene - I don't know about the SandyBox, but my BeagleBoneBlack, with parallel "cape" plus LinuxCNC (MachineKit) on an SDCard was about $80.00 US from Xylote

Re: [Emc-users] Powerhawk VTC-150 Mill Conversion Nearing Completion

2015-06-05 Thread andy pugh
On 5 June 2015 at 12:28, Rick Lair wrote: > We are at the point on our Cincinnati Milacron of getting the tool > changer working, and this a carbon copy of how our machine works. I have > the changer arm working about 80%, but I am not real sure how to get the > carousel working into the mix. I h

Re: [Emc-users] Sandy box

2015-06-05 Thread Mark Wendt
On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 8:42 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 05 June 2015 05:15:12 Mark Wendt wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 7:47 PM, Gregg Eshelman > wrote: > > > On 6/4/2015 12:26 PM, Mark Wendt wrote: > > > > OK, perhaps I should have said another computer, rather than > > > > another P

Re: [Emc-users] 4-jaw scroll chucks. Do they actually work? : And angle

2015-06-05 Thread andy pugh
On 5 June 2015 at 13:09, Erik Christiansen wrote: > Isn't the scroll on a close-fitting spigot, annular to the centre hole? > If that's so sloppy that it can rattle, then it would be pushed to > eccentricity by the lathe tool. Time for a new chuck, then. It needs enough clearance to rotate, and t

Re: [Emc-users] Powerhawk VTC-150 Mill Conversion Nearing Completion

2015-06-05 Thread Rick Lair
I get an error of, testpc@testpc:~/linuxcnc-dev$ linuxcnc LINUXCNC - 2.8.0~pre1 Machine configuration directory is '/home/testpc/linuxcnc/configs/VMC' Machine configuration file is 'vmc.ini' Starting LinuxCNC... Found file:./vmc.hal Found file:./sim_vmc.hal Found file:./spindle.hal Found file:./

Re: [Emc-users] 4-jaw scroll chucks. Do they actually work? : And angle

2015-06-05 Thread Adam McLeod
I think it is pretty standard for scroll chucks to not repeat better than 0.001". My experience is that chucks are often considered good in the 0.001" to 0.005" run out repeatability. I suspect when the chuck is tightened, there is enough friction between the jaws and the chuck body that preve

Re: [Emc-users] Powerhawk VTC-150 Mill Conversion Nearing Completion

2015-06-05 Thread andy pugh
On 5 June 2015 at 15:12, Rick Lair wrote: > ./toolchange.hal:1: Can't find module 'carousel' in Yes, you do need to install the new component. sudo comp --install --install-doc carousel.comp (carousel-comp is in the config folder when unzipped) The rest of the errors are something that Vismach

Re: [Emc-users] Sandy box

2015-06-05 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 05 June 2015 08:57:24 John Alexander Stewart wrote: > On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 8:42 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > One thing I haven't noted yet, no on has mentioned the price of this > > little box? > > Gene - I don't know about the SandyBox, but my BeagleBoneBlack, with > parallel "cape"

Re: [Emc-users] Sandy box

2015-06-05 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 05 June 2015 09:27:10 Mark Wendt wrote: > On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 8:42 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Friday 05 June 2015 05:15:12 Mark Wendt wrote: > > > On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 7:47 PM, Gregg Eshelman > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > On 6/4/2015 12:26 PM, Mark Wendt wrote: > > > > > OK, p

Re: [Emc-users] Powerhawk VTC-150 Mill Conversion Nearing Completion

2015-06-05 Thread Rick Lair
I keep getting "sudo: comp: command not found" On 6/5/2015 10:20 AM, andy pugh wrote: > On 5 June 2015 at 15:12, Rick Lair wrote: >> ./toolchange.hal:1: Can't find module 'carousel' in > Yes, you do need to install the new component. > > sudo comp --install --install-doc carousel.comp > (carouse

Re: [Emc-users] Powerhawk VTC-150 Mill Conversion Nearing Completion

2015-06-05 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 05 June 2015 10:54:30 Rick Lair wrote: > I keep getting "sudo: comp: command not found" There has been a name change Rick, it is now "halcompile" > > On 6/5/2015 10:20 AM, andy pugh wrote: > > On 5 June 2015 at 15:12, Rick Lair wrote: > >> ./toolchange.hal:1: Can't find module 'carousel

Re: [Emc-users] Sandy box

2015-06-05 Thread Mark Wendt
On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > > > > > One thing I haven't noted yet, no on has mentioned the price of this > > > little box? > > > > > > Cheers, Gene Heskett > > > > No price listed for it anywhere on the web site. In fact, no prices > > for anything on the web sit

Re: [Emc-users] Powerhawk VTC-150 Mill Conversion Nearing Completion

2015-06-05 Thread Dave Cole
On 6/5/2015 7:28 AM, Rick Lair wrote: > That is pretty sweet, is the ladder very complex? > > We are at the point on our Cincinnati Milacron of getting the tool > changer working, and this a carbon copy of how our machine works. I have > the changer arm working about 80%, but I am not real sure how

Re: [Emc-users] Powerhawk VTC-150 Mill Conversion Nearing Completion

2015-06-05 Thread andy pugh
On 5 June 2015 at 16:20, Dave Cole wrote: > Don't over look the fact that you can attach a regular PLC to LinuxCNC > via Modbus TCP or RTU and have the tool changer logic run in the > external PLC. However, for any tool change that involves axis movements it is probably more straightforward to u

Re: [Emc-users] Powerhawk VTC-150 Mill Conversion Nearing Completion

2015-06-05 Thread Dave Cole
On 6/5/2015 11:28 AM, andy pugh wrote: > On 5 June 2015 at 16:20, Dave Cole wrote: >> Don't over look the fact that you can attach a regular PLC to LinuxCNC >> via Modbus TCP or RTU and have the tool changer logic run in the >> external PLC. > > However, for any tool change that involves axis move

[Emc-users] Sandy box

2015-06-05 Thread Roland Jollivet
On 5 June 2015 at 16:47, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Friday 05 June 2015 09:27:10 Mark Wendt wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 8:42 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Friday 05 June 2015 05:15:12 Mark Wendt wrote: > > > > On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 7:47 PM, Gregg Eshelman > > > > > > > > > > wrote:

Re: [Emc-users] Powerhawk VTC-150 Mill Conversion Nearing Completion

2015-06-05 Thread Bruce Layne
On 06/05/2015 11:28 AM, andy pugh wrote: > However, for any tool change that involves axis movements it is > probably more straightforward to use a G-code sub. G-code is horribly > clunky as a programming language, but it can make the Z axis move up > and down. The automatic tool changer is

Re: [Emc-users] Sandy box

2015-06-05 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 12:17 AM, Rafael wrote: > Good computer architecture includes a backplane, passive or active. > Digital computers were among the most popular low cost industrial > computers many years ago. Some used 4 slot backplanes, others more with > possibility to use expanders for add

Re: [Emc-users] Powerhawk VTC-150 Mill Conversion Nearing Completion

2015-06-05 Thread Rick Lair
Now I get "sudo: halcompile: command not found", Do I need to . ./scripts/rip-environment? Were should the VMC folder actually be, or doesn't it make a difference, I have it in my configs folder, which is in the linuxcnc folder. On 6/5/2015 11:06 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 05 June

Re: [Emc-users] Powerhawk VTC-150 Mill Conversion Nearing Completion

2015-06-05 Thread andy pugh
On 5 June 2015 at 17:34, Rick Lair wrote: > Now I get "sudo: halcompile: command not found", Wierd. sudo apt-get install linuxcnc-dev Might help, but I didn't think that was necessary, and I would imagine you already have it. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/

Re: [Emc-users] Powerhawk VTC-150 Mill Conversion Nearing Completion

2015-06-05 Thread Rick Lair
I do, I did a fresh pull as well, and re-compiled just last week as well. On 6/5/2015 12:38 PM, andy pugh wrote: > On 5 June 2015 at 17:34, Rick Lair wrote: >> Now I get "sudo: halcompile: command not found", > Wierd. > sudo apt-get install linuxcnc-dev > Might help, but I didn't think that was

Re: [Emc-users] Powerhawk VTC-150 Mill Conversion Nearing Completion

2015-06-05 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On 6/5/15 10:38 AM, andy pugh wrote: > On 5 June 2015 at 17:34, Rick Lair wrote: >> Now I get "sudo: halcompile: command not found", > > Wierd. > sudo apt-get install linuxcnc-dev > Might help, but I didn't think that was necessary, and I would imagine > you already have it. Yes, halcompile is pa

Re: [Emc-users] Powerhawk VTC-150 Mill Conversion Nearing Completion

2015-06-05 Thread Rick Lair
I do build from source, So should I have the VMC folder be in my "home/testpc/linuxcnc-dev/configs directory, Then from the command line be in the "testpc@testpc:~/linuxcnc-dev/configs$" directory, Then do " sudo halcompile --install --install-doc carousel.comp" Does that sound right? On 6/

Re: [Emc-users] Powerhawk VTC-150 Mill Conversion Nearing Completion

2015-06-05 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On 6/5/15 10:59 AM, Rick Lair wrote: > I do build from source, > > So should I have the VMC folder be in my > "home/testpc/linuxcnc-dev/configs directory, > > Then from the command line be in the > "testpc@testpc:~/linuxcnc-dev/configs$" directory, > > Then do " sudo halcompile --install --install-

Re: [Emc-users] Sandy box

2015-06-05 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2015-06-05 12:13 GMT+03:00 Mark Wendt : > Dunno. It runs LinuxCNC so I would presume you could only run one instance > of whatever control GUI you use. Well, it runs Machinekit and remote GUIs is one of the major areas that has been changed, compared to LinuxCNC. AFAIK client app will run one rem

Re: [Emc-users] password

2015-06-05 Thread jeremy youngs
Big John that was the nail on the head. How did I get that the first time and not the second I don't know but thanx guys -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.

Re: [Emc-users] Powerhawk VTC-150 Mill Conversion Nearing Completion

2015-06-05 Thread Stuart Stevenson
This is the tool change component I wrote for the Enshu at MPM in Wichita. The Enshu's tool changer is a side mounted chain matrix that moves the tool pot into position by counting the pots, overrunning the correct pot to allow a stop dog to fall into place, the chain rotates backward until the sto

Re: [Emc-users] Powerhawk VTC-150 Mill Conversion Nearing Completion

2015-06-05 Thread Stuart Stevenson
This is the Enshu's two speed gear change component. component gear2 "Select gear range from requested spindle speed"; // from EMC pin in float SpindleCommand "spindle speed command"; pin in float minspeed "lowest spindle speed"; pin in float gear1max "low gear max speed"; pin in float gear2max "

Re: [Emc-users] Powerhawk VTC-150 Mill Conversion Nearing Completion

2015-06-05 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Here is the 4 speed gearbox component from the Cinci at MPM component gear4 "Select gear range from requested spindle speed"; /* This component if for a 4 speed gearbox with a separate tram shifter. This has 5 solenoids to shift the gears and 4 limit switches to indicate the gearbox state. Tram

Re: [Emc-users] Sandy box

2015-06-05 Thread Adam McLeod
The thing about CNC control or industrial automation is that there isn't really that much data being passed. It is much more about latency and consistency (jitter) if you want a high performance CNC tool. Industrial controls that run on ethernet tend to be non-standard implementations that beh

Re: [Emc-users] Sandy box

2015-06-05 Thread Mark Wendt
On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 1:15 PM, Viesturs Lācis wrote: > 2015-06-05 12:13 GMT+03:00 Mark Wendt : > > Dunno. It runs LinuxCNC so I would presume you could only run one > instance > > of whatever control GUI you use. > > Well, it runs Machinekit and remote GUIs is one of the major areas > that has

Re: [Emc-users] Powerhawk VTC-150 Mill Conversion Nearing Completion

2015-06-05 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 05 June 2015 12:34:26 Rick Lair wrote: > Now I get "sudo: halcompile: command not found", > > Do I need to . ./scripts/rip-environment? Look in /usr/bin. Its part of the 2.8.0pre installs I have here. But I am not sure when the renameing was done. Is /usr/bin in your $PATH? I've had

Re: [Emc-users] Powerhawk VTC-150 Mill Conversion Nearing Completion

2015-06-05 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 05 June 2015 12:59:56 Rick Lair wrote: > I do build from source, > > So should I have the VMC folder be in my > "home/testpc/linuxcnc-dev/configs directory, > > Then from the command line be in the > "testpc@testpc:~/linuxcnc-dev/configs$" directory, > > Then do " sudo halcompile --instal

Re: [Emc-users] Sandy box

2015-06-05 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 3:21 PM, Mark Wendt wrote: > Then what exactly is the USB cable being used for? Connect a USB cable between the tablet and the BBB, and have them talk to each other by network transport over USB, including doing remote X protocol to the server on the tablet. I described th

Re: [Emc-users] Sandy box

2015-06-05 Thread Mark Wendt
On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 3:36 PM, Przemek Klosowski < przemek.klosow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 3:21 PM, Mark Wendt wrote: > > > Then what exactly is the USB cable being used for? > > Connect a USB cable between the tablet and the BBB, and have them talk > to each other by networ

Re: [Emc-users] Sandy box

2015-06-05 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 3:42 PM, Mark Wendt wrote: >> Connect a USB cable between the tablet and the BBB, and have them talk >> to each other by network transport over USB, including doing remote X >> protocol to the server on the tablet. I described that couple of weeks >> ago in this list. >> >

Re: [Emc-users] Sandy box

2015-06-05 Thread Mark Wendt
On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 3:58 PM, Przemek Klosowski < przemek.klosow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 3:42 PM, Mark Wendt wrote: > > >> Connect a USB cable between the tablet and the BBB, and have them talk > >> to each other by network transport over USB, including doing remote X > >>

[Emc-users] OT: Grind a hemisphere or ball end on rod

2015-06-05 Thread Mark Johnsen
I thought I'd throw this out here because some of the ideas passed around are really good. I thought someone might have a helpful suggestion. I have an application where we need to grind a ball-end on the end of rod that can be between 0.5 meters to 2 meters long and vary in diameter from about 1

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Grind a hemisphere or ball end on rod

2015-06-05 Thread andy pugh
On 5 June 2015 at 21:19, Mark Johnsen wrote: To turn 1.25mm x 2m you would need to spend more effort on the support than on the machining. So, perhaps the best idea is to hold the work stationary and rotate the cutter / grinder. You would need a machine spindle with a CNC-controlled rotating ra

Re: [Emc-users] Sandy box

2015-06-05 Thread Sven Wesley
2015-06-05 21:58 GMT+02:00 Przemek Klosowski : > > So I took an Android 7" tablet (Azpen A700) that I got for $35 from > MicroCenter, installed X11 server from the Play Store: > https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=x.org.server&hl=en > > and ran a test program (attached) talking to the

Re: [Emc-users] Sandy box

2015-06-05 Thread andy pugh
On 6 June 2015 at 00:31, Sven Wesley wrote: > Letting the box, BBB or whatever you like > controlling the machine and running the GUI somewhere else is pretty > obvious to me. It doesn't have to be an either/or. I have mentioned this before, but it's a useful thing to do. Even with the machine c

[Emc-users] OT: Grind a hemisphere or ball end on rod

2015-06-05 Thread Mark Johnsen
Andy, That boring head is unreal and I've never seen anything like it. I'm not quite sure how it works. I'm guessing the housing the cable is connected to is stationary? I looked at all 247 pictures you had and couldn't piece together how it works, but looks like you made some of the pieces and

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Grind a hemisphere or ball end on rod

2015-06-05 Thread andy pugh
On 6 June 2015 at 01:35, Mark Johnsen wrote: > That boring head is unreal and I've never seen anything like it. I think I have the only one. I made everything down to the motor stator laminations. > I like the idea of holding the work piece stationary. I had thought about > a XY table w/ rotar

Re: [Emc-users] Sandy box

2015-06-05 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On 6/5/2015 10:06 AM, Roland Jollivet wrote: > Same. I really can't be bothered with sites that don't list prices. Bad > thinking on their part. > > Regards > Roland Any place that says to contact them for a quote, or worse, create an account and login on the site to get a quote, does not get my

Re: [Emc-users] Sandy box

2015-06-05 Thread Rafael
On 06/05/2015 01:18 AM, Alexander Rössler wrote: > > Rafael writes: > >> On 06/04/2015 07:13 AM, Ron Bean wrote: If you need one computer to see the GUI and one for realtime effects, why not just start out with a real computer and load Linux and LinuxCNC on it? >> snip >> In

[Emc-users] OT: Grind a hemisphere or ball end on rod

2015-06-05 Thread Roland Jollivet
In point form - lay the rod in a long V (angle iron will be fine) - rotate the rod at about 10RPM from the far end with a small reduction DC motor and a 3-jaw chuck - at the working end, support the rod with two large (80mm) overlapping rollers (like used for balancing) - have a third roller light