Re: [Emc-users] OT Fanuc ot-c cpu power supply A16B-1212-0950

2023-12-05 Thread andy pugh
On Tue, 5 Dec 2023 at 13:22, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote: > I'm attaching a picture of the X axis motor so you can see. I guess it > should be possible to control it, but I don't really know how the encoder > works. I know there's a Hostmot encoder module for Fanuc but I don't know > anything about

Re: [Emc-users] Run Fusion 360 on LInux

2023-12-01 Thread andy pugh
On Fri, 1 Dec 2023 at 18:53, Chris Albertson wrote: > > I ran Fusion360 for a long time on Linux. It’s easy, just install a virtual > machine and run Windows on the VM and Fusion on Windows. I wonder if this would work, to run the Mac version? https://www.darlinghq.org/ -- atp "A motorcycle

Re: [Emc-users] OT: novel 3+ n axes

2023-11-23 Thread andy pugh
On Thu, 23 Nov 2023 at 20:42, Ryan McIntosh wrote: > > If you are going to clamp a metal disc with anything, use an > electromagnet. Maybe re-purpose parts of a car air-conditioning clutch. (I am sure that these have loads of applications, as they can clamp and release while rotating, though

Re: [Emc-users] OT: novel 3+ n axes

2023-11-22 Thread andy pugh
On Wed, 22 Nov 2023 at 19:15, Roland Jollivet wrote: > > Interesting, and it looks rigid enough for real work.. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r4_uo6ZrAE > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztW4JIbLSMs Quite a clever idea for machines with closed controllers and no easy way to provide motor

[Emc-users] Pi5 + PCIe Mesa card?

2023-11-09 Thread andy pugh
It looks like it might be possible (but external power supplies need to be added) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5VOzO_ERTM -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and lunatics." — George Fitch,

Re: [Emc-users] fast wedm spool reversal

2023-11-08 Thread andy pugh
On Wed, 8 Nov 2023 at 07:52, Thomas J Powderly wrote: > In this method the wire is reused, > it is wound onto a drum , which has to reverse. A long time ago I had the use of an abrasive wire saw that worked on a similar principle. One of these, in fact, or the 1980s predecessor.

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC 2.9 is Released

2023-11-07 Thread andy pugh
On Tue, 7 Nov 2023 at 16:08, fxkl47BF--- via Emc-users wrote: > the upgrade did a kernel upgrade > linux-image-5.10.0-19-amd64 -> linux-image-6.1.0-12-amd64 Ah. This is a Debian thing, different kernels tend to bring in different libc6 dependencies (this is why the Buster 2.9.1 RTAI deb isn't

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC 2.9 is Released

2023-11-07 Thread andy pugh
On Tue, 7 Nov 2023 at 14:29, fxkl47BF--- via Emc-users wrote: > > i have two systems i use to run linuxcnc sim > both are debian 11, bullseye > i installed linuxcnc 2.9 on both and it worked perfectly How did you install linuxcnc and from where? > last night i ran apt update, apt upgrade on one

Re: [Emc-users] Documentation question

2023-11-07 Thread andy pugh
On Mon, 6 Nov 2023 at 19:10, Ray Henry wrote: > > a Debian release is referred to as "Boolworm." Is this a typo Yes, just a typo. -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and lunatics." — George

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC 2.9 is Released

2023-11-06 Thread andy pugh
On Mon, 6 Nov 2023 at 19:40, Scott Harwell via Emc-users wrote: > > Screenshot of error Did you add the archive signing key? What does ls /usr/share/keyrings show? -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses,

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC 2.9 is Released

2023-11-06 Thread andy pugh
On Mon, 6 Nov 2023 at 16:36, Scott Harwell via Emc-users wrote: > > Andy, > What about the move from 2.9.0 pre1 to 2.9.1. I don't see anything about > that. If you got the 2.9.0pre from Debian then the installer script should update the repository links and add the keys. At that

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC 2.9 is Released

2023-11-06 Thread andy pugh
On Sun, 5 Nov 2023 at 00:39, andy pugh wrote: > > LinuxCNC 2.9.1 has been released I should have put these links in the original email. http://linuxcnc.org/docs/stable/html/getting-started/updating-linuxcnc.html http://linuxcnc.org/docs/stable/html/getting-started/getting-linuxcn

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC 2.9 is Released

2023-11-05 Thread Andy Pugh
> On 5 Nov 2023, at 20:15, John Dammeyer wrote: > > How does one update the Pi4 apt sources to 2.9-uspace ? The script at www.LinuxCNC.org/linuxcnc-install.sh should do much of it. ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC 2.9 is Released

2023-11-05 Thread Andy Pugh
> On 5 Nov 2023, at 08:39, Thomas J Powderly wrote: > > Install Debian Buster (Debian 12), amd64 verison I am not going to have access to a PC today. Could someone else do this? (And fix the verison misspelling too) ___ Emc-users mailing

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC 2.9 is Released

2023-11-05 Thread Andy Pugh
> On 5 Nov 2023, at 05:03, John Dammeyer wrote: > > How does one upgrade a Pi4 running LinuxCNC without building the OS from > scratch? Have you updated the apt sources to 2.9-uspace ? ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net

Re: [Emc-users] InRelease missing for hioghlab2

2023-11-05 Thread Andy Pugh
> On 5 Nov 2023, at 05:01, Thomas J Powderly wrote: > > W: Skipping acquire of configured file '2.9-uspace/binary-i386/Packages' as > repository 'http://buildbot2.highlab.com/debian buster InRelease' does not > seem to provide it (sources.list entry misspelt?) That’s Seb’s buildbot. Nothing

[Emc-users] LinuxCNC 2.9 is Released

2023-11-04 Thread andy pugh
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[Emc-users] New Beaglebone

2023-11-04 Thread andy pugh
https://www.beagleboard.org/blog/2023-11-02-beaglev-fire-announcement I don't know how usable it will be for LinuxCNC, as I don't know if we can compile for RISCV. Also, I don't know if it has any video output? -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for

Re: [Emc-users] Mesa Step Pulses?

2023-10-25 Thread andy pugh
On Wed, 25 Oct 2023 at 14:59, Todd Zuercher wrote: > Unfortunately no, it only has step/dir or CW/CCW as input options. Quadrature might still work, but probably isn't to be preferred to step/dir. Quadrature signals set up as A step and B dir will have B low on rising edges of A in ne

Re: [Emc-users] Mesa Step Pulses?

2023-10-25 Thread andy pugh
On Wed, 25 Oct 2023 at 13:27, Todd Zuercher wrote: > I was reading the manual for the new drive I was planning to use in my next > build and see that the drive calls a preference of a 50% duty cycle for step > pulse inputs. Does the drive have an option to use quadrature signals? The Mesa

Re: [Emc-users] Lathe ignores tool number change using fanucy wear offset patch

2023-10-12 Thread andy pugh
On Thu, 12 Oct 2023 at 19:19, andrew beck wrote: > And also the fact that Linux CNC was showing t3 when t3 was the one loaded. > > Even though the code had gone past the t4 command If you can find a recipe to recreate the issue then perhaps there is a way to investigate what's going on. --

Re: [Emc-users] Lathe ignores tool number change using fanucy wear offset patch

2023-10-12 Thread andy pugh
On Thu, 12 Oct 2023 at 10:33, andrew beck wrote: > > No we pushed cycle stop changed a offset by 0.01mm waited 2 minutes then > restarted whole program from beginning. Could your observations be explained by the toolchanger position not being what the system thought it was? What sort of

Re: [Emc-users] Lathe ignores tool number change using fanucy wear offset patch

2023-10-12 Thread andy pugh
On Thu, 12 Oct 2023 at 02:41, andrew beck wrote: > We stopped it and then changed a wear offset and it ignored the toolchange > and tried to machine with t3 instead of changing to t4. Was this with run-from-line? (You say that you stopped it) Which line did you run from? -- atp "A motorcycle

Re: [Emc-users] Halcompile broken in master

2023-10-10 Thread andy pugh
On Tue, 10 Oct 2023 at 10:48, Marius wrote: > It seems that halcompile has issues in master. it does not recognize a > .c file as legitimate and if you rename that to .comp it gets an error > > ValueError: not enough values to unpack ( expected 2, got 1) That error is because there is no ;;

Re: [Emc-users] trash collection

2023-10-02 Thread andy pugh
On Mon, 2 Oct 2023 at 15:41, Todd Zuercher wrote: > What I think I would do is build a multi chambered box similar to a car > muffler, Or, in fact, a car muffler -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses,

Re: [Emc-users] new tool table in linuxcnc master

2023-10-02 Thread andy pugh
On Mon, 2 Oct 2023 at 11:53, Roland Jollivet wrote: > > Just wondering, why would there be limit of 50? Previously the whole tool-table was sent periodically in an NML message and those are of limited size. That's not the case now, though. And I don't think that there is any limit currently.

Re: [Emc-users] playing with the single channel encoder functionality..

2023-09-29 Thread andy pugh
On Fri, 29 Sept 2023 at 13:52, andy pugh wrote: > It's not clear to me if it's now _really_ broken, or whether that is > what you are trying to do? I left the wrong link in. I was referring to this one: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/rJxvGKUHJAs -- atp "A motorcycle i

Re: [Emc-users] playing with the single channel encoder functionality..

2023-09-29 Thread andy pugh
On Fri, 29 Sept 2023 at 13:36, Sam Sokolik wrote: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYMcPxqabAo It's not clear to me if it's now _really_ broken, or whether that is what you are trying to do? -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial

Re: [Emc-users] New Raspberry Pi5 coming.

2023-09-28 Thread andy pugh
On Thu, 28 Sept 2023 at 13:38, wrote: > > PCI Express! Does that mean it can work with PCIe Mesa cards? -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and lunatics." — George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution

Re: [Emc-users] hostmot2-firmware deb repository?

2023-09-28 Thread andy pugh
On Thu, 28 Sept 2023 at 03:13, wrote: > > there > is no hostmot2-firmware package available. Is there a repo I can add > that is the official source for this? Probably not for Debian 12. It makes no sense for us to upload that to Debian (if they would even want it) as the LinuxCNC version of

Re: [Emc-users] Remembering the last tool in spindle before restart (andrew beck)

2023-09-28 Thread andy pugh
On Thu, 28 Sept 2023 at 08:28, wrote: > And i issue the MDI command when the machine is on and homed. I did this > using classicladder, Another option that springs to mind would be a Python userspace component. On first loading it would load the last-loaded tool from a file (possibly the .VAR

Re: [Emc-users] Q about angular vel in dro

2023-09-25 Thread andy pugh
On Mon, 25 Sept 2023 at 02:16, gene heskett wrote: > However, in cross checking what I write, it is NOT the homed state of A > that changes the behavior! Its the homed state of ALL the axis's > that controls this behaviour. And I can unhome A, and the slow response > is back, so its the ALL

Re: [Emc-users] Q about angular vel in dro

2023-09-24 Thread andy pugh
On Sun, 24 Sept 2023 at 12:18, gene heskett wrote: > > But I really don't understand why any system would need to be homed before > > it could run full speed. It shouldn't. > That could be the setting combination at work. IDK which set of limits > it uses when unhomed vs homed. Joint limits

Re: [Emc-users] Q about angular vel in dro

2023-09-23 Thread andy pugh
On Sat, 23 Sept 2023 at 22:42, John Dammeyer wrote: > > Andy, > Just curious since we have the same harmonic drive and STMBL for the 4th axis > what max velocity and acceleration are you using. I just checked, and the numbers are very modest. 100 deg/sec and 250 deg/sec accel

Re: [Emc-users] Q about angular vel in dro

2023-09-23 Thread andy pugh
On Sat, 23 Sept 2023 at 13:41, gene heskett wrote: > MAX_VELOCITY= 360.000 > MAX_ACCELERATION= 12000 v^2 = u^2 + 2as for 360 deg/sec and 12000 accel the overrun on stopping will be v^2 / 2a = 5.4 degrees. Also it's possible that your PID is limiting the responsiveness, or

Re: [Emc-users] Q about angular vel in dro

2023-09-23 Thread andy pugh
On Sat, 23 Sept 2023 at 00:26, gene heskett wrote: > So why can't I get a decent decel while homing it? What is the [JOINT] Accel (rather than [AXIS] and what accel is used by the stepgen? -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial use of

Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen interface.

2023-09-20 Thread andy pugh
On Thu, 21 Sept 2023 at 01:07, John Dammeyer wrote: > The original ERROR is also still there. Which LinuxCNC version? -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and lunatics." — George Fitch, Atlanta

Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen interface.

2023-09-20 Thread andy pugh
On Wed, 20 Sept 2023 at 23:36, John Dammeyer wrote: > E: Unable to locate package python-gst Maybe python3-gst ? sudo apt-cache search python-gst Gives python-gst-1.0 So you could try that too. -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial

Re: [Emc-users] rusty memory

2023-09-20 Thread andy pugh
On Wed, 20 Sept 2023 at 18:33, gene heskett wrote: > Do I need to do a separate addf "gpio read" and "gpio write" on a 5i25? Not normally. The functions exist in case you are trying to do bit-banging in a base thread. -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is

Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen interface.

2023-09-20 Thread andy pugh
On Wed, 20 Sept 2023 at 06:47, John Dammeyer wrote: > PYGST libray not installed? > is python-gstX.XX installed? > Not sure how to solve the above error. Install python-gst, either with the synaptic package manager, or sudo apt-get install python-gst > Pin

Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen interface.

2023-09-18 Thread andy pugh
On Mon, 18 Sept 2023 at 19:05, John Dammeyer wrote: > For the touch screen AXIS isn't really the best UI. I'm looking for > suggestions for a better one and how to incorporate it. Try them all? In many cases all you need to change is the DISPLAY = in the INI. I use Touchy, which is a

Re: [Emc-users] pyvcp xml vars

2023-09-18 Thread andy pugh
On Thu, 14 Sept 2023 at 18:06, Thomas J Powderly wrote: > '{:.2f}' this format pattern didnt > work using ENTITY :-( Maybe the ENTITY name needs to be different from the tag name? -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the

Re: [Emc-users] python hal component multiple instances

2023-09-18 Thread andy pugh
On Sat, 16 Sept 2023 at 11:17, Thomas J Powderly wrote: > > I see the question is wrong I thought it must be, you don't use halcompile with a Python HAL component: http://linuxcnc.org/docs/stable/html/hal/halmodule.html Using .comp (C) I think that "option userspace" is sufficient, I don't

Re: [Emc-users] Need man page hard copy

2023-09-12 Thread andy pugh
On Tue, 12 Sept 2023 at 14:18, gene heskett wrote: > Do we have a way to print man pages? > > I need a hard copy of hostmot2.9.gz They are all available online, so you could print the web page. http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.9/html/man/man9/hostmot2.9.html -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with

Re: [Emc-users] nother new problem

2023-09-10 Thread andy pugh
On Sun, 10 Sept 2023 at 19:14, gene heskett wrote: > net sidxdir <= abs_encdir.sign => sdiridx.in-edge What are you trying to do? in-edge sets which edge the edge detector responds to. Do you really want to change that in realtime? -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium

Re: [Emc-users] Q for Andy

2023-09-09 Thread andy pugh
On Sat, 9 Sept 2023 at 02:01, gene heskett wrote: > > What is the datatype of your mux2? > > float ack the man 9 page Use mux_generic instead, that supports all datatypes. -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial use of mechanical

Re: [Emc-users] Q for Andy

2023-09-08 Thread andy pugh
On Fri, 8 Sept 2023 at 17:07, gene heskett wrote: > Now I've another data missmatch, since when is a "not" not a true/false > invertor? I can't feed it into a mux2 in for the sample to hold??? What is the datatype of your mux2? Works for me: andypugh@rm-one:~/linuxcnc-dev$ halrun halcmd:

Re: [Emc-users] Q for Andy

2023-09-08 Thread andy pugh
On Fri, 8 Sept 2023 at 12:30, gene heskett wrote: > The problem is the analog i/o sample_hold, I need the digital equ so I > don't have to do a jillion S32-float conversions. I don't know why sample-hold is only S32, it would be much more useful if it was configurable. However, you can fake a

Re: [Emc-users] 2 questions

2023-08-30 Thread andy pugh
On Wed, 30 Aug 2023 at 10:58, gene heskett wrote: > if I enable another stepgen, it > replaces pwmgen.1 Not usually, unless you mean "if I replace the FPGA firmware with one with a different pin assignment" > Is there now a way around this axis order limitation so I can actually > define it

Re: [Emc-users] 2.9.0-pre no module named hal

2023-08-29 Thread andy pugh
On Tue, 29 Aug 2023 at 05:39, Thomas J Powderly wrote: > > Has the move towards python3 broke old configs that import hal? Can you use Python3 instead? -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and

Re: [Emc-users] PLC for special purpose CNC

2023-08-15 Thread andy pugh
On Tue, 15 Aug 2023 at 14:08, Jean-François Simon wrote: > May i ask a question, what's the common status about specialized PLC > that supports high performance languages like C/C++ In the context of LinuxCNC it wouldn't make much sense to use a PLC which runs C. You would just create a HAL

Re: [Emc-users] Rigid tapping

2023-08-15 Thread andy pugh
On Tue, 15 Aug 2023 at 11:16, John Dammeyer wrote: > I'd guess that if the spindle encoder is such that on each servo period > event, that if the position of the encoder isn't electrically determined by > another encoder edge, then a calculated value based on where the system > thinks it

Re: [Emc-users] Rigid tapping

2023-08-15 Thread andy pugh
On Tue, 15 Aug 2023 at 01:11, John Dammeyer wrote: > It's why I'm filtering. And yes. I agree, at this slow a speed I suspect > what I will find is two different velocities reported from edge to edge. Rigid tapping uses the encoder-position, not the encoder velocity. (And I wouldn't suggest

Re: [Emc-users] Rigid tapping

2023-08-14 Thread andy pugh
On Mon, 14 Aug 2023 at 20:57, John Dammeyer wrote: > What I found is that it moved in short spurts. Are you using straight encoder position, or position-interpolated? (this might not be an option depending on what is counting the encoder pulses) -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a

Re: [Emc-users] 12-M99-endless-main-program test fa

2023-08-11 Thread andy pugh
On Fri, 11 Aug 2023 at 16:41, gene heskett wrote: > Same thing here Andy. but now I don't have the rest of this planets > languages installed, so how do I tell dpkg-buildpackage to build OMLY > english, utf-8 docs, Its (make-buster-debs) dying on the .de docs now. It's probably easie

Re: [Emc-users] 12-M99-endless-main-program test fa

2023-08-11 Thread andy pugh
On Fri, 11 Aug 2023 at 14:09, gene heskett wrote: > XPASS: Passed, but was expected to fail The buildbot log says the same thing. But oddly, the final status is: ..Note: Using POSIX non-realtime ..Runtest: 257 tests run, 257 successful, 0 failed + 0 expected, 3 skipped -- atp "A motorcycle

Re: [Emc-users] 12-M99-endless-main-program test fa

2023-08-11 Thread andy pugh
On Thu, 10 Aug 2023 at 22:48, alanmthomason--- via Emc-users wrote: > 2. For the test that fails, interp/m98m99/12-M99-endless-main-program. > a. does everyone else see this test succeed? It's passing on the buildbot in the Pi. We don't run a Beaglebone worker.

Re: [Emc-users] Is there a problem with the Linuxcnc.org server?

2023-08-08 Thread andy pugh
On Tue, 8 Aug 2023 at 09:06, Marius wrote: > I am trying to install and upgrade but all the files that are downloaded > from the linuxcnc.org server seem to take forever and eventually time > out. Is there a problem or must I look elsewhere? There may be something going on. I tried to download

Re: [Emc-users] Beaglebone black latency

2023-08-04 Thread andy pugh
On Fri, 4 Aug 2023 at 01:48, alanmthomason--- via Emc-users wrote: > > Hi There.I'm trying to work through setting up linuxcnc on a beaglebone > black. I've run the latency-test, with results that are not looking > good.has anyone else run this test with a Beaglebone black? Is there any > way

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC build on BeagleBoneBlack

2023-08-04 Thread andy pugh
On Fri, 4 Aug 2023 at 17:50, John Dammeyer wrote: > I ask because I also have a 1GB Pi4 with a MESA 7i92H as a desktop play toy. > I think the 1GB is a bit small for LinuxCNC but so far it has worked. I'm > not sure whether support for LinuxCNC on the PI4 has also gone by the wayside? 1GB

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC build on BeagleBoneBlack

2023-08-03 Thread andy pugh
On Wed, 2 Aug 2023 at 17:51, Thomas J Powderly wrote: > Is there an explanation of gpiod? It's a replacement for the sysfs interface for gpio (which hal_pi_gpio uses, for example). There is an article about it here: https://lloydrochester.com/post/hardware/libgpiod-intro-rpi/ I have a

Re: [Emc-users] Installing From Debian?

2023-08-02 Thread andy pugh
On Thu, 3 Aug 2023 at 00:31, Sam Sokolik wrote: > I have been pretty busy with life. - is it going to be updated at some > point? That seems to be hard to do. > it did work for me - and I am not doing trivial stuff... The only very serious bug I know of at the moment is:

Re: [Emc-users] Installing From Debian?

2023-08-02 Thread andy pugh
On Sun, 30 Jul 2023 at 19:59, Sam Sokolik wrote: > apt-get installed linuxcnc-uspace and was up and running within a few > minutes after copying my configs.. It's probably worth mentioning that you get a fairly old snapshot of LinuxCNC this way, dating from February. -- atp "A motorcycle is a

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC build on BeagleBoneBlack

2023-08-02 Thread andy pugh
On Wed, 2 Aug 2023 at 02:13, alanmthomason--- via Emc-users wrote: > 2. When I perform the configure, is there a way to specify the BBB? > I'm trying to figure out how the compile process would bring in > src/hal/driver/hal_bb_gpio.c It might be automatic, the modules should be built for

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc build from scratch on RPi4

2023-07-28 Thread andy pugh
On Fri, 28 Jul 2023 at 15:26, condit.alan--- via Emc-users wrote: > > I built linuxcnc 2.9 from scratch on my RPi4-8GB (Debian 12.1) When I tried > to install it, it reported that the new install would break the install of > Linuxcnc 2.9. Do I have to uninstall 2.9 before I can install the

Re: [Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards

2023-07-11 Thread andy pugh
On Tue, 11 Jul 2023 at 23:13, gene heskett wrote: > I also have a problem with the $1000 limit, even if my total intake in > the last 2 decades is under 50 bucks for stuff I've done for OP. With > today's prices, 10 G's would be a limit I might tolerate, but really, I > have no intentions of

Re: [Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards

2023-07-11 Thread andy pugh
On Wed, 5 Jul 2023 at 20:11, Dave Matthews wrote: > > Fusion 360 is still free for personal use. The limit is $1000 in sales. > The do defeature some parts like rapids in tool paths. I have read that, but the G-code it produces for me still contains G0 moves. -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle

Re: [Emc-users] Installing From Debian?

2023-07-08 Thread andy pugh
On Sat, 8 Jul 2023 at 21:31, John Dammeyer wrote: > sudo apt-get install linuxcnc > It reported an error > E: Unable to locate package linuxcnc It's actually linuxcnc-uspace (Maybe it shouldn't be any more, but I guess we are stuck with that now) -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a

Re: [Emc-users] Installing From Debian?

2023-07-08 Thread andy pugh
On Thu, 6 Jul 2023 at 02:59, Todd Zuercher wrote: > > Any one installed Debian 12 and running Linuxcnc on a machine? I recently did a clean install on my Macbook (I can now dual-boot simultaneously: https://photos.app.goo.gl/jEjzzJmjDVqouQh79 ) It went very smoothly. I downloaded the ISO, put

Re: [Emc-users] [Emc-developers] Trajectory planner shortcomings

2023-07-05 Thread andy pugh
On Wed, 5 Jul 2023 at 13:14, Les Newell wrote: > > In my experience winding the acceleration up rapidly runs into the law > of diminishing returns with increased vibration and in the case of > steppers a higher risk of losing steps. Yes, that's the point where it is as high as it can be. However

Re: [Emc-users] [Emc-developers] Trajectory planner shortcomings

2023-07-05 Thread andy pugh
On Wed, 5 Jul 2023 at 12:28, Les Newell wrote: > Due to the shape of the trajectory it has to be done as a series of > short G1 XYZA moves. Without lookahead these short linear moves really > slow down movement. Are the machine acceleration limits as high as they can be? That should help

Re: [Emc-users] [Emc-developers] Trajectory planner shortcomings

2023-07-05 Thread andy pugh
On Wed, 5 Jul 2023 at 09:17, wrote: > The problem I have is that because 4th axis is rotary motion on my > setup, the way the angular rotation speed is handled means the rotary > axis rotates at a very slow speed (a fraction of what the G1 linear > speed would be). This isn't related to the

Re: [Emc-users] [Emc-developers] Trajectory planner shortcomings

2023-07-04 Thread andy pugh
On Tue, 4 Jul 2023 at 22:50, Sam Sokolik wrote: > > He is not saying it doesn't work... Actually, he did say that. -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and lunatics." — George Fitch, Atlanta

Re: [Emc-users] [Emc-developers] Trajectory planner shortcomings

2023-07-04 Thread andy pugh
On Tue, 4 Jul 2023 at 18:34, Marius wrote: > The problem seems to be that our trajectory planner lack the ability to > look ahead for any rotary axis. This means that a coordinated move that > includes a rotary move will be dysfunctional at best. It's not as bad as that. There is a 9-axis

Re: [Emc-users] Wiring Step Dir on KM5056E

2023-07-04 Thread andy pugh
On Mon, 3 Jul 2023 at 21:25, condit.alan--- via Emc-users wrote: > > I had to invert the direction on all of my axises to get it working like it > used to. Swapping the DIR wires on a bipolar setup is a reasonable way to invert an axis. But it's possibly not idea for the step pins as the

Re: [Emc-users] epoxy granite machine frame

2023-07-03 Thread andy pugh
On Sun, 2 Jul 2023 at 17:12, Thomas J Powderly wrote: > > i saw a youtube video with a twist on the epoxy machine frame > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAe3TlsVKcc Stefan used to be regularly on the LinuxCNC IRC, though I have not seen him there recently. He's LinuxCNC-adjacent :-) --

Re: [Emc-users] OT: floating motor mount

2023-06-27 Thread andy pugh
On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 at 16:08, fxkl47BF--- via Emc-users wrote: > > I think that some sort of coupling between the engine and the > > alternator will be needed, but this only needs to be stiff in torsion, > > and in one direction. > > I think I would use a sheet metal strap. > > are you saying

Re: [Emc-users] OT: floating motor mount

2023-06-27 Thread andy pugh
On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 at 15:42, fxkl47BF--- via Emc-users wrote: > the alternator is hanging with the two vertical rods to prevent rotation I think that some sort of coupling between the engine and the alternator will be needed, but this only needs to be stiff in torsion, and in one direction. I

Re: [Emc-users] Drilling holes in the back of a stepper motor

2023-06-25 Thread andy pugh
On Sun, 25 Jun 2023 at 10:36, John Dammeyer wrote: > The plate can't be thick enough to hold both the encoder and threads for > screws and still have the encoder disk mount to the back shaft. I would use countersunk screws from the motor side, with nuts to hold the encoder to the plate, then

Re: [Emc-users] Drilling holes in the back of a stepper motor

2023-06-25 Thread andy pugh
On Sun, 25 Jun 2023 at 04:31, John Dammeyer wrote: > Is there any reason I can't clamp the motor in a vice and pop in two holes > and tap them with a bottom tap at the spacing of the mounting flange? I have done it in-situ, but there really isn't all that much metal in there. I think pulling

Re: [Emc-users] Constant tool engagement angle

2023-06-22 Thread andy pugh
On Thu, 22 Jun 2023 at 15:09, Nicklas SB Karlsson wrote: > > If I got it right trochoidal tool path is for milling slot with mill > diameter slightly smaller than slot and address the problem with large > tool engagement. Have not being thinking about a slot, I am not sure if "HSM" and

Re: [Emc-users] Constant tool engagement angle

2023-06-22 Thread andy pugh
On Thu, 22 Jun 2023 at 14:05, Nicklas SB Karlsson wrote: > > Had some problems with machining in corners, tool wobbling. Trying to > learn more about it I stumbled upon document with constant tool > engagement angle. Concept is keep length of tool peripheral which is the > length teeths machine

Re: [Emc-users] Sewing Machine Stiffness

2023-05-26 Thread andy pugh
On Fri, 26 May 2023 at 01:51, BRIAN GLACKIN wrote: > More modern cements originate from work by Aspdin (sp) from Leeds That appears to be the correct spelling: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portland_cement -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the

Re: [Emc-users] free drive mode

2023-05-22 Thread andy pugh
On Mon, 22 May 2023 at 11:26, Les Newell wrote: > > I think the OP is referring to a function on some robot arms where the > drives apply enough torque to counterbalance the weight of the arm while > not trying to hold position. This allows you to grab hold of it and > manually move it around. I

Re: [Emc-users] free drive mode

2023-05-22 Thread andy pugh
On Sun, 21 May 2023 at 21:53, theman whosoldtheworld wrote: > > a curiosity: when the cobots press the freedrive button, they use > torque sensors such as ? on an admittance based control or just add > and subtract torque to the loop in torque control? I think that we need more context to even

Re: [Emc-users] Sewing Machine Stiffness

2023-05-22 Thread andy pugh
On Sun, 21 May 2023 at 23:57, BRIAN GLACKIN wrote: > During ww2 they made lathes bodies out of concrete with imbedded steel > parts that were jigged in form or line bored for the spindle and tail > stock. More info here:

Re: [Emc-users] Suggestions for cutting an odd little thread.

2023-05-11 Thread andy pugh
On Thu, 11 May 2023 at 17:54, Todd Zuercher wrote: > > Might it be simpler to remake both screws and change the knurled locking > screw to a more conventional thread? Yes, but I don't think the average Rivett owner would sleep easy knowing that part of their lathe had the wrong thread :-) --

Re: [Emc-users] Suggestions for cutting an odd little thread.

2023-05-11 Thread andy pugh
On Thu, 11 May 2023 at 18:49, Moses McKnight wrote: > A quick search for #10-30 turned up several links in the US, but I assume > shipping to the UK should not be too bad? > > https://www.victornet.com/detail/TAST-10-30.html "Not accepting export orders (and also have a $25 minimum) >

Re: [Emc-users] Suggestions for cutting an odd little thread.

2023-05-11 Thread andy pugh
On Thu, 11 May 2023 at 17:42, John Dammeyer wrote: > > Possibly just make a tap? I don't think that I can make one good enough, and strong enough, to tap this depth in multiple tool-steel parts. -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial

[Emc-users] Suggestions for cutting an odd little thread.

2023-05-11 Thread andy pugh
The Rivett 608 lathe has knurled screws to lock the micrometer dials. These are quite long, going down the centre of the feedscrew and pushing out a radial wedge. I am making some new feedscrews and have realised that these screws are threaded 0.190" x 30 This is probably #10-30 though 3/16 is

Re: [Emc-users] [Emc-developers] LinuxCNC gathering in Norway

2023-05-05 Thread andy pugh
On Sat, 29 Apr 2023 at 12:00, andy pugh wrote: > > I can probably make it that weekend, but don't want to commit just yet. > (I haven't looked at travel options yet) > Flights are surprisingly cheap, and the hotel looks reasonable, so I have moved my name to "will

Re: [Emc-users] [Emc-developers] LinuxCNC gathering in Norway

2023-04-30 Thread andy pugh
On Sat, 29 Apr 2023 at 12:00, andy pugh wrote: > > I can probably make it that weekend, but don't want to commit just yet. > (I haven't looked at travel options yet) > Flights seem cheap enough. Do you have the details of the nearby hotel? (That turned out to be comparable

Re: [Emc-users] [Emc-developers] LinuxCNC gathering in Norway

2023-04-29 Thread andy pugh
On Fri, 28 Apr 2023 at 17:27, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > > PS: I am not subscribed to the mailing list, please keep me on CC for > any replies. I can probably make it that weekend, but don't want to commit just yet. (I haven't looked at travel options yet) -- atp "A motorcycle is a

Re: [Emc-users] Medium voltage BLDC motor

2023-04-25 Thread andy pugh
On Tue, 25 Apr 2023 at 16:07, gene heskett wrote: > > I'm with Todd, confused. I imagine he is looking for something like the Clearpath integrated motor/drivers: https://teknic.com/products/clearpath-brushless-dc-servo-motors/ Unfortunately it seems that you can have NEMA23 or 150V but not

Re: [Emc-users] An actual application for non-circular boring..

2023-04-20 Thread andy pugh
On Thu, 20 Apr 2023 at 02:21, Sam Sokolik wrote: > > https://photos.app.goo.gl/uqdkdMuDpp8oACy3A That's really nice, though I think it might have worked just as well with the bottom open and a circular bore? -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for

[Emc-users] New Modbus driver framework for Mesa UARTS

2023-04-18 Thread andy pugh
I have just pushed a feature branch (andypugh/mesa_modbus) to the LinuxCNC github. It uses the Mesa FPGA UARTs (specifically pktUART) to offer real-time modbus connection directly to a Mesa card. Docs are here:

Re: [Emc-users] RTAI?

2023-04-18 Thread andy pugh
On Tue, 18 Apr 2023 at 16:14, Todd Zuercher wrote: > > So is RTAI currently supported in 2.9? Yes and no. It is possible to compile and run 2.9 and master on RTAI but not to build packages (or not the last time I tried) This is due to this commit:

Re: [Emc-users] RTAI?

2023-04-17 Thread andy pugh
On Mon, 17 Apr 2023 at 17:33, Todd Zuercher wrote: > Is RTAI still going to be supported in Linxcnc versions 2.9+? I hope so. -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and lunatics." — George Fitch,

Re: [Emc-users] Mill ramp angle

2023-04-14 Thread andy pugh
On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 at 10:29, Nicklas SB Karlsson wrote: > > Anyone have any suggestion about this? Decrease ramp angle? > Can you spiral down, making a hole slightly less than twice the tool diameter, so that only one side of the tool is engaged? -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a

Re: [Emc-users] Custom Cast Iron castings

2023-04-02 Thread andy pugh
On Sun, 2 Apr 2023 at 18:30, hubert wrote: I would appreciate recommendations on sources of custom castings. It's helpful to be able to make your own patterns. Castings are cheap (I pay about £10 / kg for one-offs) but pattern-making is expensive. However, 3D-printing has made pattern making

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