Re: [Emc-users] Calculating table acceleration. Was: Need help with Bostomatic BD18-2 to linuxcnc

2020-07-22 Thread Sam Sokolik
Is this stepper torque? The peak torque is only at 0 rpm and drops off substantially as you increase rpm. You would need to look a the torque curve of the stepper and decide what top rpm you are looking for and calculate accordingly.. On Wed, Jul 22, 2020, 11:09 AM John Dammeyer wrote: > Ho

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting observations with a cheap bob's analog out.

2020-11-25 Thread Sam Sokolik
s (pun possibly). > > I have the same BOB and Rigol, but neither are getting as much use as > yours. Mark > > On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 7:50 AM Sam Sokolik wrote: > > > Here is an image of 100hz pwm modulated with 1hz sin wave. (sent to the > > bob and measurin

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting observations with a cheap bob's analog out.

2020-11-25 Thread Sam Sokolik
you about 20 levels. 200hz gives you about 100 levels. (I have tried at least down to 100hz..) sam On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 3:17 AM John Dammeyer wrote: > > > From: Sam Sokolik [mailto:samco...@gmail.com] > > -it is slw. It is most likely a simple low pass.

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting observations with a cheap bob's analog out.

2020-11-25 Thread Sam Sokolik
Here is an image of 100hz pwm modulated with 1hz sin wave. (sent to the bob and measuring the analog out. http://electronicsam.com/images/greenmachine/VID_20201124_215508_exported_0_1606319177524.jpg On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 8:29 AM Sam Sokolik wrote: > The references I found say mach outp

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting observations with a cheap bob's analog out.

2020-11-25 Thread Sam Sokolik
BTW - the analog out works without the 5v plugged in. - as you can see from that picture :) On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 10:20 AM Sam Sokolik wrote: > Zip drive cables are awesome for this type of application. They are built > very well and I have not had any noise related issues wit

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting observations with a cheap bob's analog out.

2020-11-25 Thread Sam Sokolik
> what are you trying to show with that? > John > > > > -Original Message----- > > From: Sam Sokolik [mailto:samco...@gmail.com] > > Sent: November-24-20 8:21 PM > > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > > Subject: [Emc-users] Interesting observations

[Emc-users] Interesting observations with a cheap bob's analog out.

2020-11-24 Thread Sam Sokolik
Granted.. I know these are pretty basic. You can usually find them for under 10 dollars. They do work quite well though. I was working on some youtube content and was goofing around with this bob and the printer port. Setting up a pwmgen to test the analog out unearthed some things.. -It

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting observations with a cheap bob's analog out.

2020-12-02 Thread Sam Sokolik
as always - long and painful https://youtu.be/RErLu73-Xno On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 11:44 AM Sam Sokolik wrote: > Mainly showing how low the frequency responce is... You can already see > the phase shifting and much faster than 1hz it gets worse plus > attenuation... > > On We

Re: [Emc-users] Version 2.8.1 is released

2020-12-02 Thread Sam Sokolik
Thank you!! On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 3:39 PM andy pugh wrote: > Version 2.8.1 is largely a bugfix release based on 2.8.0. One > exception is the porting back of drivers for Mesa 7i95, 7i97 and 7c80. > > This should be offered as an automatic update on most systems. > > At this time the installer

Re: [Emc-users] Poor memory, or new feature?

2020-11-15 Thread Sam Sokolik
That has always been the case with axis.. I think most people add some hal with a pyvcp or such. On Sun, Nov 15, 2020, 5:16 AM Gene Heskett wrote: > On Saturday 14 November 2020 23:23:36 Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Saturday 14 November 2020 19:24:02 Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Saturday 14

Re: [Emc-users] spindle syncing arbitrary shapes.. Yes please...

2020-10-22 Thread Sam Sokolik
>>> > >>> On Thu, Oct 22, 2020, 6:47 PM Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users < > >>> emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > >>> > >>> > Looks like this would be perfect for roughing camshafts prior to heat > >>> > treating

[Emc-users] Maybe a minimally printed harmonic drive?

2021-01-25 Thread Sam Sokolik
I am sure the torque is limited - but I feel it might have possibility... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlpkmEEhFqc ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users

[Emc-users] Paging dngarrett or anyone else about HB04

2020-12-31 Thread Sam Sokolik
I have the normal HB04 wireless usb pendant.It looks like the polling rate is about 100ms. Is this the limitation of the HB04 - or is it a software setting? Or something else? It works ok - but encoder counts coming every 100ms or so makes for some wavy jogging. Thanks sam

Re: [Emc-users] To Sam Sokolik re opencv on linux

2021-01-28 Thread Sam Sokolik
Gene - I will have to look for the python code and script.. Have you looked at Kent's stuff? I think he has a git repository. https://youtu.be/w3novypPqos On Thu, Jan 28, 2021, 2:51 PM Gene Heskett wrote: > Greetings Sam; > > Any chance of sharing a link to your additions to the ini file

Re: [Emc-users] To Sam Sokolik re opencv on linux

2021-01-31 Thread Sam Sokolik
Ok. I found the config/python script I was working on... Late 2014.. Boy. I will put them up somewhere tonight.. On Thu, Jan 28, 2021, 9:36 PM Gene Heskett wrote: > On Thursday 28 January 2021 21:12:31 Bari wrote: > > > On 1/28/21 4:55 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > That's not the video I

Re: [Emc-users] To Sam Sokolik re opencv on linux

2021-02-01 Thread Sam Sokolik
http://electronicsam.com/images/emco/terco/ Now - iirc the capture python script is copied to usr/bin/ and made executable.. It looks like I used opencv-2.4.9 (again - it was over 6 years ago) On Sun, Jan 31, 2021 at 3:03 PM Sam Sokolik wrote: > Ok. I found the config/python scrip

Re: [Emc-users] Maybe a minimally printed harmonic drive?

2021-01-26 Thread Sam Sokolik
:47 skrev Sam Sokolik : > > > I am sure the torque is limited - but I feel it might have possibility... > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlpkmEEhFqc > > > > > I can totally see that drive on my home made trunnion table! > > ___

Re: [Emc-users] Maybe a minimally printed harmonic drive?

2021-01-27 Thread Sam Sokolik
Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 8:59 AM Sam Sokolik wrote: > > > Nice being able to make things while I sleep.. > > > > 2 outside side rings - one 202 teeth - one 200 teeth. > > Inside flex ring - 200 teeth. Feels good - for what it is.. > > > > http://electronic

Re: [Emc-users] Maybe a minimally printed harmonic drive?

2021-01-27 Thread Sam Sokolik
.jpg http://electronicsam.com/images/greenmachine/IMG_20210127_104354.jpg On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 10:37 PM Sam Sokolik wrote: > I will give it a try - printing a 200 tooth and a taller 200 tooth flex > gear. > > http://electronicsam.com/images/greenmachine/IMG_20210126_22.jp

Re: [Emc-users] Maybe a minimally printed harmonic drive?

2021-01-26 Thread Sam Sokolik
s quickly. > > > > In any case, use a timing belt for the flex wall and it might last 30 > > years. > > > But that brings up the tooth profile problem. I've not seen a timing > belt that resembles the triangular splines? > > > On Mon, Jan

Re: [Emc-users] Maybe a minimally printed harmonic drive?

2021-01-26 Thread Sam Sokolik
andy - that seems like a neat experiment... Do you have an example of the HD version? On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 11:26 AM andy pugh wrote: > On Tue, 26 Jan 2021 at 04:47, Sam Sokolik wrote: > > > > I am sure the torque is limited - but I feel it might have possibility... > &

Re: [Emc-users] Maybe a minimally printed harmonic drive?

2021-01-27 Thread Sam Sokolik
https://youtu.be/nhHDrK6sCRs On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 3:56 PM Gene Heskett wrote: > On Wednesday 27 January 2021 16:04:45 Chris Albertson wrote: > > > This is a machine-tool related list. Many of us have 3D printers > > too. So if you have both additive and subtractive tools available and > >

Re: [Emc-users] Maybe a minimally printed harmonic drive?

2021-01-26 Thread Sam Sokolik
andy - thank you. I am going to have to draw up the 200 tooth outside gear and see how that works.. (the diameter of the 200 tooth would have to be the same diameter as the 202...) What is nice about what I have right now is the pitch of the 2 gears is the same - so you can engage a lot of

Re: [Emc-users] Maybe a minimally printed harmonic drive?

2021-01-26 Thread Sam Sokolik
I will give it a try - printing a 200 tooth and a taller 200 tooth flex gear. http://electronicsam.com/images/greenmachine/IMG_20210126_22.jpg On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 8:07 PM Chris Albertson wrote: > I could read it well enough to see that they only quote prices. The > old saying is

Re: [Emc-users] Maybe a minimally printed harmonic drive?

2021-02-02 Thread Sam Sokolik
y have a big harmonic drive here from a robot. ) > > On Thu, 28 Jan 2021, 18:53 Bari, wrote: > > > On 1/27/21 10:55 AM, Sam Sokolik wrote: > > > > > Nice being able to make things while I sleep.. > > > > > > 2 outside side rings - one 202 teeth - one

Re: [Emc-users] Pi4 issues with MESA 7i92H

2021-06-11 Thread Sam Sokolik
That would be something to try.. Maybe mesaflash doesn't know how to handle the 192.168.1.1 ip address? Set the pie to something else like 192.168.1.10 On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 11:25 AM Mark Wendt wrote: > On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 12:09 PM John Dammeyer > wrote: > > > Sam, > > Here's the

Re: [Emc-users] Question about Raspberry Pi 4 reliability

2021-06-13 Thread Sam Sokolik
I have been happy with it. Not been using the PI for production - mostly just tinkering.Doing some pretty complicated configs. I have had it up for many days at a time with no issues... Running programs that run hours... sam On Sun, Jun 13, 2021 at 4:37 AM Gene Heskett wrote: > On

Re: [Emc-users] CUI devices

2021-06-09 Thread Sam Sokolik
in the datasheet the accuracy 0.2 degrees so, in my mind, it is no better than a 1800 count encoder if that.. I have used them in the past - they work ok for things like spindle feedback. In my experience - for servo positioning feedback - it is too noisy..

Re: [Emc-users] Pi4 issues with MESA 7i92H

2021-06-11 Thread Sam Sokolik
I just used mesaflash the other day on the rpi4 for the 7i92. It has been a while but I think I followed the network directions here... https://gnipsel.com/linuxcnc/uspace/rpi4-eth.html On Fri, Jun 11, 2021, 12:58 AM Ralph Stirling wrote: > Did you set a static ip for the pi in

Re: [Emc-users] CUI devices

2021-06-09 Thread Sam Sokolik
> For what is lts worth you can get a 2500ppr encoder for 30usd from my > servo > > supplier. > > > > Or a a 5000ppr. > > > > Or you can go absolute. And get a 13 something ppr encoder. They > are > > about 70usd I think > > > > I think it's

Re: [Emc-users] Pi4 issues with MESA 7i92H

2021-06-11 Thread Sam Sokolik
that I can > use the CNC suggest all is good. > > I can try adding that /24 to see if it makes a difference but first I'd > like to know why it's needed. > ... > No change. LinuxCNC still moves things. But mesaflash comes up with the > same error. > > John > > >

Re: [Emc-users] Freenode Shenagins

2021-05-19 Thread Sam Sokolik
well poop. On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 11:44 AM Chad Woitas wrote: > > From the discord this morning: > https://gist.github.com/joepie91/df80d8d36cd9d1bde46ba018af497409 > > It seems the Freenode IRC future is in question. Does this affect the > Linuxcnc IRC? > > > > > >

Re: [Emc-users] Power Tapping

2021-07-07 Thread Sam Sokolik
I just use whatever I have... Sometimes I peck tap when I am using a hand tap. A good spiral tap or one the shoots the shavings out the end (don't remember what they are called) Like this one.. (you catch the shavings coming out the bottom..) https://youtu.be/E2t0y2EsSO8?t=483 You get used

Re: [Emc-users] 3D Printing + LinuxCNC

2021-06-29 Thread Sam Sokolik
Really? I am remembering similar to Todd.. t thought rotary circular arc wasn't implemented yet... (That would be exciting) On Tue, Jun 29, 2021, 2:02 PM andy pugh wrote: > On Tue, 29 Jun 2021 at 19:39, andrew beck > wrote: > > > > Mate it would be so good to get this 9 axis tp working.

Re: [Emc-users] Maybe a minimally printed harmonic drive?

2021-02-04 Thread Sam Sokolik
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVVffljc7kE On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 9:46 AM Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 02 February 2021 08:30:56 Sam Sokolik wrote: > > > I have looked at cycloidal drives and feel that they have too many > > parts :) > > > > Gene >

Re: [Emc-users] Maybe a minimally printed harmonic drive?

2021-03-24 Thread Sam Sokolik
I have a cheap chuck that is held on with 3 cap head screws. My plan is to make a disk that registers the center of the faceplate and the inside lip of the chuck. - I don't remember the exact size.. about 4.5" On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 9:48 PM John Dammeyer wrote: > > > >

Re: [Emc-users] Maybe a minimally printed harmonic drive?

2021-03-29 Thread Sam Sokolik
http://electronicsam.com/images/greenmachine/IMG_20210329_220745.jpg On Sun, Mar 28, 2021 at 5:17 PM Sam Sokolik wrote: > have not done any destructive testing - but finally grabbed an oem650 > drive so I can have full 4 axis to play with. Seems to run the rotary > atleas

Re: [Emc-users] Maybe a minimally printed harmonic drive?

2021-03-29 Thread Sam Sokolik
^ thanks andy. On Mon, Mar 29, 2021 at 10:23 PM Sam Sokolik wrote: > http://electronicsam.com/images/greenmachine/IMG_20210329_220745.jpg > > On Sun, Mar 28, 2021 at 5:17 PM Sam Sokolik wrote: > >> have not done any destructive testing - but finally grabbed an oem650 >

Re: [Emc-users] Maybe a minimally printed harmonic drive?

2021-03-28 Thread Sam Sokolik
have not done any destructive testing - but finally grabbed an oem650 drive so I can have full 4 axis to play with. Seems to run the rotary atleast as good as the leadshine. http://electronicsam.com/images/greenmachine/IMG_20210328_165552.jpg On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 8:36 AM Sam Sokolik wrote

Re: [Emc-users] Rotary axis preview (in axis interface)

2021-03-31 Thread Sam Sokolik
I was making tap hats, drilling and tapping 4 holes for 4 grub screws to > grab the flats of a tap. I did do a circular engrave once but was not > impressed with the font and didn't waste any more material. So I can't > offer any magic incantations, sorry. > > > > -Orig

Re: [Emc-users] Rotary axis preview (in axis interface)

2021-03-31 Thread Sam Sokolik
I think you grabbed the old version - at the top of the post he has a link to the end of the post... :) https://forum.linuxcnc.org/20-g-code/27169-g-code-to-engrave-numbers-on-cylinders?start=10#116888 Maybe <_feed> wasn't used the way it is now in 2018 It now seems to be a read only

Re: [Emc-users] [Emc-developers] Home_use_index issue revisited

2021-04-04 Thread Sam Sokolik
Trying to use the index functionality is adding a layer of complexity you don't need. Just and the 2 switches together and run them into the home input. On Sun, Apr 4, 2021, 10:44 AM Feral Engineer wrote: > That might be worth a try. > > Is it safe to load the build bot master repository on a

Re: [Emc-users] Rotary axis preview (in axis interface)

2021-03-31 Thread Sam Sokolik
You need in the display section of the INI file GEOMETRY = AXYZ On Wed, Mar 31, 2021, 5:00 PM John Dammeyer wrote: > > > From: Sam Sokolik [mailto:samco...@gmail.com] > > > http://electronicsam.com/images/greenmachine/Screenshot_2021-03-30_18-00-14.png > > > Alrigh

Re: [Emc-users] Rotary axis preview (in axis interface)

2021-03-31 Thread Sam Sokolik
o the work to cut and out to > retract. X moves along the graduations and AX move to draw the letters. > > So something else in the INI or HAL file is still confusing the system. > > John > > From: Sam Sokolik [mailto:samco...@gmail.com] > > > > You need in the

Re: [Emc-users] Maybe a minimally printed harmonic drive?

2021-03-30 Thread Sam Sokolik
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSDu81jjYFs On Mon, Mar 29, 2021 at 10:23 PM Sam Sokolik wrote: > ^ thanks andy. > > On Mon, Mar 29, 2021 at 10:23 PM Sam Sokolik wrote: > >> http://electronicsam.com/images/greenmachine/IMG_20210329_220745.jpg >> >> On Sun, Mar 2

Re: [Emc-users] Rotary axis preview (in axis interface)

2021-03-30 Thread Sam Sokolik
A axis. > John > > > -Original Message- > > From: Sam Sokolik [mailto:samco...@gmail.com] > > Sent: March-30-21 4:05 PM > > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > > Subject: [Emc-users] Rotary axis preview (in axis interface) > > > > Has anyone done

Re: [Emc-users] Rotary axis preview (in axis interface)

2021-03-30 Thread Sam Sokolik
This might make a bit more sense of what I am talking about.. http://electronicsam.com/images/greenmachine/Screenshot_2021-03-30_18-53-52.png On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 6:51 PM Sam Sokolik wrote: > it makes it so the bounding box doesn;t really make sense,,, > > > http://electronicsa

Re: [Emc-users] Rotary axis preview (in axis interface)

2021-03-30 Thread Sam Sokolik
it makes it so the bounding box doesn;t really make sense,,, http://electronicsam.com/images/greenmachine/Screenshot_2021-03-30_18-50-41.png On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 6:44 PM Sam Sokolik wrote: > > http://electronicsam.com/images/greenmachine/Screenshot_2021-03-30_18-00-

Re: [Emc-users] Maybe a minimally printed harmonic drive?

2021-03-11 Thread Sam Sokolik
ect as the belt. > > > > > > I can imagine the mold is the square aluminum part with roughened up > > > internal pocket. Then stretch a belt over a disk and place the disk in > > the > > > pocket leaving a ring then pour in the epoxy. With luck the epoxy > b

Re: [Emc-users] Maybe a minimally printed harmonic drive?

2021-03-14 Thread Sam Sokolik
another painful video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3e83H2mEyk On Sat, Mar 13, 2021 at 8:40 PM Sam Sokolik wrote: > Getting closer... I have to drill a bunch of holes in the face plate... > also have to preload the wheel bearing (grind a bit from the center) > > http://elect

Re: [Emc-users] Maybe a minimally printed harmonic drive?

2021-03-10 Thread Sam Sokolik
021 12:54:09 Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Wednesday 10 March 2021 10:55:41 Sam Sokolik wrote: > > > another update - at 1/2 step - the discrete resolution should be > > > about 40,000 divisions per rotation. .009 deg. > > > > > > https://www.youtube.co

Re: [Emc-users] Maybe a minimally printed harmonic drive?

2021-03-10 Thread Sam Sokolik
another update - at 1/2 step - the discrete resolution should be about 40,000 divisions per rotation. .009 deg. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdfKre6zpEY On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 4:00 PM Sam Sokolik wrote: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVVffljc7kE > > On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 9:4

Re: [Emc-users] Coordinated Spindle - mill

2021-03-10 Thread Sam Sokolik
Just to clarify.. To rigid tap you been a b and z... On Wed, Mar 10, 2021, 7:40 PM Ed wrote: > On 3/10/21 2:08 PM, Karl Schmidt wrote: > > I finally have all the hardware working - I built gear pickups + Z .. > > Thanks to Jon Elson's example .. works well - thanks for sharing. > > > > >

Re: [Emc-users] Maybe a minimally printed harmonic drive?

2021-03-19 Thread Sam Sokolik
So - this didn't make it 6 hours with the steppers running 833rpm (3000deg/min at the face plate) (forward reverse some positioning...) http://electronicsam.com/images/greenmachine/IMG_20210317_073558.jpg Now - I am sure it would last longer if it was run slower... The flex gear now has the

Re: [Emc-users] Maybe a minimally printed harmonic drive?

2021-03-21 Thread Sam Sokolik
So. interesting.. I just swapped the gears.. Before my ratio was 100:1. Input scale was 1600step/rev * 100 = 16/360 = 444.444 input scale. Now I reversed the outside splines. I thought - wow - I must be losing steps - but i would aways come back to zero. Finally though -

Re: [Emc-users] Maybe a minimally printed harmonic drive?

2021-03-21 Thread Sam Sokolik
sage----- > > From: Sam Sokolik [mailto:samco...@gmail.com] > > Sent: March-21-21 11:46 AM > > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Maybe a minimally printed harmonic drive? > > > > http://electronicsam.com/images/greenmachine/IMG_20210

Re: [Emc-users] Maybe a minimally printed harmonic drive?

2021-03-21 Thread Sam Sokolik
http://electronicsam.com/images/greenmachine/IMG_20210321_133551.jpg On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 2:44 PM Gene Heskett wrote: > On Saturday 20 March 2021 14:52:51 Sam Sokolik wrote: > > > Currently I am using Vaseline... The black is plastic wear... > > > Humm, I've hear

Re: [Emc-users] Maybe a minimally printed harmonic drive?

2021-03-22 Thread Sam Sokolik
the same direction. With the same set of outside spines swapped - the ratio is 100:1 I am sure Andy can explain it. It doesn't make sense to me. Happy with runout... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLyP2YwdstQ sam On Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 12:58 AM John Dammeyer wrote: > > > > From:

Re: [Emc-users] Maybe a minimally printed harmonic drive?

2021-03-22 Thread Sam Sokolik
Sam Sokolik wrote: > 202,200 for the outside spline and the flex gear is 200. In this > situation - the 202 tooth spline is stationary to the stepper. The 200 > tooth outside spline is mounted to the faceplate. In this layout - the > ratio apears to be 101:1 > > In this sit

Re: [Emc-users] Maybe a minimally printed harmonic drive?

2021-03-22 Thread Sam Sokolik
ses the direction is the same? Like in real life? > > > -Original Message- > > From: Sam Sokolik [mailto:samco...@gmail.com] > > Sent: March-22-21 9:48 AM > > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Maybe a minimally printed

Re: [Emc-users] Maybe a minimally printed harmonic drive?

2021-03-22 Thread Sam Sokolik
t; John > > > -----Original Message- > > From: Sam Sokolik [mailto:samco...@gmail.com] > > Sent: March-22-21 6:19 AM > > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Maybe a minimally printed harmonic drive? > > > > 202,200 for the out

Re: [Emc-users] Maybe a minimally printed harmonic drive?

2021-03-19 Thread Sam Sokolik
d perhaps that material work better? > > John > > > -Original Message----- > > From: Sam Sokolik [mailto:samco...@gmail.com] > > Sent: March-19-21 8:03 AM > > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Maybe a minimally printed harmonic

Re: [Emc-users] Maybe a minimally printed harmonic drive?

2021-03-19 Thread Sam Sokolik
still running 18+ hours. On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 2:03 PM Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 19 March 2021 13:07:58 Sam Sokolik wrote: > > > I think you want it as hard as you can that still last a decent amount > > of time.. Too rubbery and there will be more toque flex... >

Re: [Emc-users] Maybe a minimally printed harmonic drive?

2021-03-19 Thread Sam Sokolik
Exactly... On Fri, Mar 19, 2021, 11:58 AM andy pugh wrote: > On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 at 15:07, Sam Sokolik wrote: > > > > It isn't going to > > be run like this in normal situations and you can always print more > gears... > > I wouldn't imagine that printing a n

Re: [Emc-users] Maybe a minimally printed harmonic drive?

2021-03-20 Thread Sam Sokolik
36 hours - For this purpose I think we are good. http://electronicsam.com/images/greenmachine/IMG_20210320_072206.jpg Next I think a destructive torque test and then maybe some actual cutting... I need to finish the face plate first though. On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 11:16 PM Chris Albertson

Re: [Emc-users] Maybe a minimally printed harmonic drive?

2021-03-20 Thread Sam Sokolik
Currently I am using Vaseline... The black is plastic wear... On Sat, Mar 20, 2021, 1:43 PM Gene Heskett wrote: > On Saturday 20 March 2021 09:57:11 Sam Sokolik wrote: > > > 36 hours - For this purpose I think we are good. > > > > http://electronicsam

Re: [Emc-users] Maybe a minimally printed harmonic drive?

2021-03-13 Thread Sam Sokolik
m it. > > > I've got a better idea, since LCNC can do a taper, taper the holder 2 > thou, drive it all the way in so its gripped good, bore it to half that > taper, pull it out, turn the other face and repeat w/o touching the x > dial. Just make sure all the burrs on the teeth fr

Re: [Emc-users] Following Error Joint 2

2021-03-04 Thread Sam Sokolik
sorry to throw something else into the mix... I was getting following errors without realtime errors on the pie because the default internet time sync (timesyncd) sucked.. timesyncd vs ntp https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDKaFJmB254 On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 11:37 AM John Dammeyer wrote: > > A

Re: [Emc-users] Harmonic drive, rubber flex ring

2021-03-01 Thread Sam Sokolik
Small update... https://youtu.be/LoxpqbGFl2g On Mon, Mar 1, 2021, 10:56 AM Jon Elson wrote: > On 03/01/2021 04:11 AM, andrew beck wrote: > > This may interest people wanting to make 4th axis stuff > > > > https://youtu.be/-065J34xC5o > > > The output disc seems to be rotating in a jerky

Re: [Emc-users] Harmonic drive, rubber flex ring

2021-02-22 Thread Sam Sokolik
https://youtu.be/VK4zgFTD2SA On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 6:58 PM andrew beck wrote: > Hopefully I'll get into a big cycloidal drive for my Cnc mill soon all out > of steel. > I was thinking of making it 300mm dia maybe. > I think most 5axis Cnc Mills use cycloidal drives if they don't just have >

Re: [Emc-users] Harmonic drive, rubber flex ring

2021-02-23 Thread Sam Sokolik
I think it is mainly that the 3d printed parts are not perfect.. I squared the printer - but it still isn't 100%. I think they will be good enough for this experiment though. On Tue, Feb 23, 2021, 1:44 AM John Dammeyer wrote: > > From: Sam Sokolik [mailto:samco...@gmail.com] >

Re: [Emc-users] Rpi4B OS

2021-04-07 Thread Sam Sokolik
I have always used DD to create the images. You just have to make sure you are writing the IMG not the ZIP Something like sudo dd bs=4M if=~/Downloads/2020-05-01-linuxcnc-pi4.img of=/dev/mmcblk0 sam On Wed, Apr 7, 2021 at 12:23 PM John Dammeyer wrote: > Even for the initial upgrading of

Re: [Emc-users] Dealing with Servo Faults

2021-02-11 Thread Sam Sokolik
ok.. This is my take... This is why I like linuxcnc>-a/d>- analog drive>-servo>-encoder>-linuxcnc... The enables are controlled by motion. The power is controlled by estop. The PID within linuxcnc has a lot of power - saturation, following error and so on. It can detect most all faults a

Re: [Emc-users] Harmonic drive, rubber flex ring

2021-02-22 Thread Sam Sokolik
Getting there http://electronicsam.com/images/greenmachine/IMG_20210222_134102.jpg http://electronicsam.com/images/greenmachine/IMG_20210222_134132.jpg http://electronicsam.com/images/greenmachine/IMG_20210222_134145.jpg On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 1:17 PM Chris Albertson wrote: > The Youtuber

Re: [Emc-users] jerk control

2021-08-17 Thread Sam Sokolik
I am going to ask a stuid question.. If you have a velocity run step gen with pid. Couldn't you hook a limit3 between the pid and steghen. Because the input is velocity instead of position - wouldn't the acceleration limit in the limit3 be jerk instead of acceleration? I am sure it doesn't

Re: [Emc-users] jerk control

2021-08-17 Thread Sam Sokolik
gt; www.patreon.com/theferalengineer > > On Tue, Aug 17, 2021, 9:36 PM Sam Sokolik wrote: > > > It would be the same setup... Just using servo amps.. Velocity out of > > the pid - position back from the encoders. > > > > On Tue, Aug 17, 2021, 8:14 PM andrew beck >

Re: [Emc-users] jerk control

2021-08-17 Thread Sam Sokolik
It would be the same setup... Just using servo amps.. Velocity out of the pid - position back from the encoders. On Tue, Aug 17, 2021, 8:14 PM andrew beck wrote: > Not sure Sam. > > I have a 7i77 on this mill though also. So analog control > > On Wed, Aug 18, 2021, 12:51

Re: [Emc-users] Force homed signal

2021-08-31 Thread Sam Sokolik
Pretty sure you can do this where you set the home position at homing. (So it doesn't move). The k homes to 38",34"',24 respectively.. it sets those positions but doesn't then move anywhere else. On Tue, Aug 31, 2021, 2:04 AM Marius wrote: > > On 2021/08/31 03:25, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote: >

[Emc-users] Minimally printed rotary. Initial torque testing..

2021-09-12 Thread Sam Sokolik
Small update https://youtu.be/eW1GGI55Epc ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users

Re: [Emc-users] DC Servo issues

2021-09-19 Thread Sam Sokolik
Lol.. I certainly love the electrics part more than the machining most of the time... On Sun, Sep 19, 2021, 2:07 PM John Dammeyer wrote: > Hi Sam, > See below. > > From: Sam Sokolik [mailto:samco...@gmail.com] > > > > I have never used servo drives that close the lo

Re: [Emc-users] DC Servo issues

2021-09-19 Thread Sam Sokolik
I have never used servo drives that close the loop.. I have always had great luck with normal closed loop within linuxcnc. (cheap used amc drives) (Actually - I take that back - I have used the stmbl drives. so far only for a spindle..) This is of course using mesa analog interface hardware.

Re: [Emc-users] DC Servo issues

2021-09-19 Thread Sam Sokolik
the amps then following errors are likely. > > John > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Sam Sokolik [mailto:samco...@gmail.com] > > Sent: September-19-21 12:11 PM > > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] DC Servo is

Re: [Emc-users] Minimally printed rotary. Initial torque testing..

2021-09-13 Thread Sam Sokolik
k you can quite easily have > to micro-step a number of times before you see physical motion. > > None of that matters other than that you have shown your mechanics can > handle 35 lb-ft which is all in all pretty cool ! > > John > > > > > > -Original Message-

Re: [Emc-users] Something went wrong.

2021-08-07 Thread Sam Sokolik
Are these running single ended? Have you tried it with the spindle running? sam On Sat, Aug 7, 2021 at 11:33 AM John Dammeyer wrote: > Hi Jon, > > From: Jon Elson [mailto:el...@pico-systems.com] > > On 8/4/21 1:53 AM, John Dammeyer wrote: > > > In fact, a bit more work just now shows that the

Re: [Emc-users] Square holes

2021-09-20 Thread Sam Sokolik
ease? > > That was a link or 3 to some youtube videos by Sam Sokolik, and he has > not shared the code AFAIK. Both square and hex wre demoed. Nice concept > though. > > Cheers, Gene Heskett > -- > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: > soap, ballot

Re: [Emc-users] Square holes

2021-09-21 Thread Sam Sokolik
Tool geometry is important with the lower number of sides... ;) On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 3:31 PM wrote: > I couldn't think of the name. Thanks! > > -Original Message- > From: Ralph Stirling > Sent: September 20, 2021 2:53 PM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re:

Re: [Emc-users] Resolver to quadrature converter.

2021-12-06 Thread Sam Sokolik
this is what happens when you short out the op-amp with the oscilloscope probe.. Good thing I have 2... https://photos.app.goo.gl/wzKK3JSgVtdbBmfM6 On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 12:21 PM Sam Sokolik wrote: > Part 2 > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoHajQaHcOU > > On Thu, Dec 2, 2

Re: [Emc-users] Resolver to quadrature converter.

2021-12-06 Thread Sam Sokolik
Part 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoHajQaHcOU On Thu, Dec 2, 2021 at 12:19 AM Sam Sokolik wrote: > Andy had sent these to me years ago and I finally figured out why I > couldn't get them to work. > > (Granted the ones that pico systems and mesa sell are better.) > >

Re: [Emc-users] Harmonic Drive

2021-12-17 Thread Sam Sokolik
Hmm - seems we are making things a bit more complicated than they need to be.. Why didn't the simple flex gear work ok? You need to make the system with fine enough splines that the flexure is at a minimum...You can lower the backlash to a minimum by applying a small amount of pressure to

Re: [Emc-users] Choice of CNC conversions

2021-12-27 Thread Sam Sokolik
The Kearney and trecker On Mon, Dec 27, 2021, 5:33 PM Feral Engineer wrote: > The pay walls, axis limits and markups on accessories are the reasons I > avoided centroid. > > The thing I love most about Linuxcnc is the flexibility, reliability and > yes, classicladder - or at least ladder based

Re: [Emc-users] Choice of CNC conversions

2021-12-27 Thread Sam Sokolik
wow - that was a walk down memory lane.. JohnK, JonE and Peter all posted in those threads... On Mon, Dec 27, 2021 at 7:16 PM Sam Sokolik wrote: > Hmm - I mean - if you want to do a ton of reading - you can watch the > journey... This was a big project because it originally was 2.

Re: [Emc-users] Choice of CNC conversions

2021-12-27 Thread Sam Sokolik
, Dec 27, 2021, 5:35 PM Sam Sokolik wrote: > The Kearney and trecker > > On Mon, Dec 27, 2021, 5:33 PM Feral Engineer > wrote: > >> The pay walls, axis limits and markups on accessories are the reasons I >> avoided centroid. >> >> The thing I love

Re: [Emc-users] Choice of CNC conversions

2021-12-27 Thread Sam Sokolik
/vertical-mill-lathe-project-log/24-large-kearney-amp-trecker-hmc-conversion.html On Mon, Dec 27, 2021 at 6:34 PM John Dammeyer wrote: > Web Link? > > > From: Sam Sokolik [mailto:samco...@gmail.com] > > > > Lol.. let me do that again... > > > > The Kearney a

Re: [Emc-users] Choice of CNC conversions

2021-12-24 Thread Sam Sokolik
Hmm.. so the realtime patches being integrated into Linux kernel is worthless old technology? They are waisting their time? (This is unrelated to LinuxCNC) Currently LinuxCNC is being added to debian testing. It will soon be part of the debian repository. On Fri, Dec 24, 2021, 12:54 PM Chris

Re: [Emc-users] Choice of CNC conversions

2021-12-23 Thread Sam Sokolik
Because linuxcnc is so flexible - I actually did some testing between mach3 and linuxcnc when the new trajectory planner was being developed.. http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?NewTrajectoryControl This is using linuxcnc to sample the step/direction signals from mach and linuxcnc to plot

Re: [Emc-users] Very good software backlash control demo.

2022-01-03 Thread Sam Sokolik
This has been done at a bigger scale... (2 feedback loops) https://web.archive.org/web/20160222165548/http://jmkasunich.com/cgi-bin/blosxom/shoptask/wichita-trip-02-20-08.html http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Combining_Two_Feedback_Devices_On_One_Axis On Mon, Jan 3, 2022, 8:42 PM Chris

Re: [Emc-users] Very good software backlash control demo.

2022-01-03 Thread Sam Sokolik
day, January 3, 2022 11:00:54 PM EST Sam Sokolik wrote: > > I think this just would work with linuxcnc and scales + motor encoders. > > WIth the scales using only I in the 2 pid loops - it would be constantly > > correcting backlash to keep the position.. (that is what the G did) >

Re: [Emc-users] Very good software backlash control demo.

2022-01-03 Thread Sam Sokolik
I think this just would work with linuxcnc and scales + motor encoders. WIth the scales using only I in the 2 pid loops - it would be constantly correcting backlash to keep the position.. (that is what the G did) sam On Mon, Jan 3, 2022 at 9:50 PM Chris Albertson wrote: > I think his method

Re: [Emc-users] Harmonic Drive

2021-12-20 Thread Sam Sokolik
Did you watch this video til the end? I time stamped it. https://youtu.be/eW1GGI55Epc?t=878 sam On Mon, Dec 20, 2021 at 12:26 PM Chris Albertson wrote: > On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 6:05 PM Sam Sokolik wrote: > > > Hmm - seems we are making things a bit more complicated th

Re: [Emc-users] Harmonic Drive

2021-12-20 Thread Sam Sokolik
It can be > done but not if the plastic parts flex. > > On Mon, Dec 20, 2021 at 10:39 AM Sam Sokolik wrote: > > > Did you watch this video til the end? I time stamped it. > > > > https://youtu.be/eW1GGI55Epc?t=878 > > > > sam > > > > > > > &

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