[expert] (OT)Mandrake and Advertising.

2003-09-12 Thread James Sparenberg
Ya'll read... Ya'll decide. Conversation is on pclinux. probably best to keep it there. http://www.mandrakesoft.com/partners/advertising http://pclinuxonline.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=7702 For the discussion please go to the second link... James Want to buy your Pack or

Re: [expert] (OT)Mandrake and Advertising.

2003-09-12 Thread Charlie M.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 September 12, 2003 01:04 am, James Sparenberg wrote: > Ya'll read... Ya'll decide. > > Conversation is on pclinux. probably best to keep it there. > > http://www.mandrakesoft.com/partners/advertising > > http://pclinuxonline.com/modules.php?name=News&

Re: [expert] reassigning ports

2003-09-12 Thread KevinO
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 http://msgs.securepoint.com/cgi-bin/get/postfix0309/164/2.html I found this with google. Look at the bottom posting. This looks like it should work. KevinO Russell W. Behne wrote: > Today at 00:51, KevinO wrote: > >>Russell W. Behne wrote: >> >>>and

Re: [expert] AntiVir Personal Edition

2003-09-12 Thread David
On Fri, 2003-09-12 at 01:05, Miark wrote: > Today I stumbled across anti-virus software from H+BEDV > (a German company) for Linux. It's free for personal use, > and was wondering if anyone here had used it, and if so > what you think about it. > Hi, I have been using this software for about thre

Re: [expert] (OT)Mandrake and Advertising.

2003-09-12 Thread Guy Van Sanden
OK, it doesn't sound that bad in the beginning, but this is a dangerous trend. Like displaying ads while installing, OK, but will this mean that usefull messages get less screenspace (ETA, actions, ...) I'm also very cautious of big business getting a hold on Linux, this means it will get ruined a

Re: [expert] (OT)Mandrake and Advertising.

2003-09-12 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
*** Guy Van Sanden Fri, 12 Sep 2003 10:40:04 +0200 : > OK, it doesn't sound that bad in the beginning, but this is a > dangerous trend. > Like displaying ads while installing, OK, but will this mean that > usefull messages get less screenspace (ETA, actions, ...) No. As much as I heard it will o

Re: [expert] (OT)Mandrake and Advertising.

2003-09-12 Thread Steffen Barszus
Am Freitag, 12. September 2003 09:04 schrieb James Sparenberg: > Ya'll read... Ya'll decide. > > Conversation is on pclinux. probably best to keep it there. > > http://www.mandrakesoft.com/partners/advertising > > http://pclinuxonline.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=7702 > > For the dis

Re: [expert] (OT)Mandrake and Advertising.

2003-09-12 Thread Lee Wiggers
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 11:01:03 +0200 Wolfgang Bornath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > *** Guy Van Sanden Fri, 12 Sep 2003 10:40:04 +0200 : > > > OK, it doesn't sound that bad in the beginning, but this is a > > dangerous trend. > > Like displaying ads while installing, OK, but will this mean > > that

[expert] Re: (OT)Mandrake and Advertising.

2003-09-12 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Fri, Sep 12, 2003 at 05:33:06AM -0400, Lee Wiggers wrote: > Let's see if I understand this. Mdk sells advertising for megabucks > to companies who want to reach mdk users. > > Mdk users simply avoid gui install and avoid adverts. So the logical next step is? Right: Remove the text install (or

Re: [expert] (OT)Mandrake and Advertising.

2003-09-12 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
*** Lee Wiggers Fri, 12 Sep 2003 05:33:06 -0400 : > Let's see if I understand this. Mdk sells advertising for megabucks > to companies who want to reach mdk users. > > Mdk users simply avoid gui install and avoid adverts. > > What a nice day. I' think there'll be small text-based ads in the t

Re: [expert] (OT)Mandrake and Advertising.

2003-09-12 Thread Guy Van Sanden
Much of the problem is that if it is noticed that too many users do textinstalls, they'll probably be removed. And somewhere down the line, one of those advertising dweeps is going to go like this, "Well, all those boot messages are sooo not cool, let's dump them in favour of dipers commercials, o

Re: [expert] (OT)Mandrake and Advertising.

2003-09-12 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
*** Guy Van Sanden Fri, 12 Sep 2003 11:44:13 +0200 : > Sep 7 17:59:45 cronos syslogd 1.4.1: restart. > Sep 7 18:01:00 cronos WIN A FREE TRIP TO TIMBUKTU > Sep 7 18:13:00 cronos HEY, DON'T FORGET THE TRIP AND DRINK COCA COLA! > > Not fun :-( Well, both are sensible advices! I'd like to see Ti

Re: [expert] (OT)Mandrake and Advertising.

2003-09-12 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Friday 12 September 2003 11:33, Lee Wiggers wrote: > Let's see if I understand this. Mdk sells advertising for megabucks > to companies who want to reach mdk users. > > Mdk users simply avoid gui install and avoid adverts. > > What a nice day. > > Lee I wouldn't call these prices megabucks, ce

Re: [expert] (OT)Mandrake and Advertising.

2003-09-12 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
*** H.J.Bathoorn H.J.Bathoorn Fri, 12 Sep 2003 12:33:20 +0200 : > - Screen saver advertising (only for the 9.2 download version): $ > 10,000 > > - Installation advertising + bookmarks + screen saver advertising: $ > 15,000 > Wow, that's really cheap. I've to tell my local grocery store abo

Re: [expert] (OT)Mandrake and Advertising.

2003-09-12 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 11:19:35 +0200, Steffen Barszus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am Freitag, 12. September 2003 09:04 schrieb James Sparenberg: > > Ya'll read... Ya'll decide. > > > > Conversation is on pclinux. probably best to keep it there. > > > > http://www.mandrakesoft.com/partners/advertisi

Re: [expert] (OT)Mandrake and Advertising.

2003-09-12 Thread Richard Urwin
As described on the MDK page, I don't have a problem with this. Anything that keeps MDK going and doesn't make it too annoying is OK by me. I can always remove the bookmarks folder and change the screensaver. If that became too hard then I would seriously consider moving to Debian or something,

Re: [expert] (OT)Mandrake and Advertising.

2003-09-12 Thread Paul
On Fri, 2003-09-12 at 12:43, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: > *** Lee Wiggers Fri, 12 Sep 2003 05:33:06 -0400 : > > > Let's see if I understand this. Mdk sells advertising for megabucks > > to companies who want to reach mdk users. > > > > Mdk users simply avoid gui install and avoid adverts. > > > >

[expert] Is this a postfix packaging bug (9.1 RC2)?

2003-09-12 Thread Damon Lynch
Hi, I'm no postfix expert so I don't know if what I found was a bug or not, but in 9.1, this worked in main.cf mynetworks = 192.168.1.0/10 but postfix fails to deliver any mail like that in 9.2RC2, and instead this must be specified: mynetworks = 192.128.0.0/10 I guess it's something to do wit

[expert] Re: (OT)Mandrake and Advertising.

2003-09-12 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Fri, Sep 12, 2003 at 02:56:38PM +0300, Paul wrote: [...] > I take this to mean that, once set up, the default screen-saver will > display ads, rather than ads in the install. No, both. If I interpret Mandrake's statement correctly (URL in first mail of this thread), installer ads, ad bookmarks

[expert] RC2 installation

2003-09-12 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
Is there anything which I missed during last 10 days? I just received my 3 CDs of RC2 and am now in my thirteenth attempt to install it on a box where I installed 9.1 just the other week without problems. So there should be no hardware related issues. First crash (keyboard lights blinking) during

Re: [expert] Re: KDE 3.1.3 for 9.1 : go or no-go ?

2003-09-12 Thread AAW
On Thursday, September 11, 2003 11:27 am, Praedor Tempus wrote: > My desktop is lightening fast (Athlon XP2700+, 256MB > RAM, NVIDIA Ti4200) and of course KDE starts quickly, > at least as fast as the previous KDE version. I HAVE > run into an intermittent problem, however, and I > assume it is a

Re: [expert] Is this a postfix packaging bug (9.1 RC2)?

2003-09-12 Thread Miark
Out of curiosity, why /10 and not /24? How many nodes are on your network? Miark On Sat, 13 Sep 2003 00:00:46 +1200, Damon Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I'm no postfix expert so I don't know if what I found was a bug or not, > but in 9.1, this worked in main.cf > > mynetworks =

[expert] ifpuld mandrake 9.1

2003-09-12 Thread Lawson, Jim
Thanks to the person who told me this for mandrake 9.1. Which file do I edit to undo this. I did look around last night. I saw ifdown / Ifup in the network script. Can I copy the network script from Mandrake 9.0 to Mandrake 9.1? Also there is no way of truning it off under drakeconnect or network

Re: [expert] (OT)Mandrake and Advertising.

2003-09-12 Thread Miark
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 11:44:13 +0200, Guy Van Sanden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Much of the problem is that if it is noticed that too many users do > textinstalls, they'll probably be removed. And how do you imagine they'll "notice" that? Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSo

Re: [expert] Re: (OT)Mandrake and Advertising.

2003-09-12 Thread Miark
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 14:15:48 +0200, "T. Ribbrock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Logical conclusion: Don't buy Mandrake distros at all. Download them, > remove the ads, be happy. As they're getting money that way anyway, I > have even less reason to buy a box, *especially*, as the boxed version > is

Re: [expert] (OT)Mandrake and Advertising.

2003-09-12 Thread Miark
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 14:56:38 +0300, Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't have any great prob with this, just change the screen-saver Right. And this is ultimately the solution to _any_ advertising. Remember, we're talking about an open source distro here, not the M$ world where everything is

Re: [expert] Nvidia, accelerated 3D support... I'm lost

2003-09-12 Thread R N dev
> If you have an idea of what to look at, feel free > ;-) > Only to try: do you have alias /dev/nvidia* nvidia into /etc/modules.conf do you load glx module into XF86Config-4 and this is the correct version (did you remove the old driver installed by rpm first?) is the link into /usr/X11R6/lib

Re: [expert] Is this a postfix packaging bug (9.1 RC2)?

2003-09-12 Thread Richard Urwin
The 192.168 address for private networks is class B, and therefore 16 bits long. (see RFC 1918.) Using less than 16 bits may result in problems connecting to machines on the Internet which have these addresses. You would be better off using 10.0.0.0/8 or172.16.0.0/12 which are also allocated f

[expert] Re: (OT)Mandrake and Advertising.

2003-09-12 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Fri, Sep 12, 2003 at 09:25:05AM -0400, Miark wrote: > On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 14:15:48 +0200, "T. Ribbrock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Logical conclusion: Don't buy Mandrake distros at all. Download them, > > remove the ads, be happy. As they're getting money that way anyway, I > > have even

[expert] Resume from Mechanical, Civil & Structural Designer

2003-09-12 Thread CAD Engineer
RIC M'SIE San Jose, CA 95131 USA Tel (408) 482-2840 [EMAIL PROTECTED] OBJECTIVE: STRUCTURAL & MECHANICAL DESIGNER CIVIL, ARCHITECTURAL, TRANSPORTATION CAD Operator EXP

Re: [expert] RC2 installation

2003-09-12 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Friday September 12 2003 07:49 am, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: > Is there anything which I missed during last 10 days? I just > received my 3 CDs of RC2 and am now in my thirteenth attempt to > install it on a box where I installed 9.1 just the other week > without problems. So there should be no ha

Re: [expert] Re: (OT)Mandrake and Advertising.

2003-09-12 Thread Rolf Pedersen
T. Ribbrock wrote: On Fri, Sep 12, 2003 at 09:25:05AM -0400, Miark wrote: On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 14:15:48 +0200, "T. Ribbrock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Logical conclusion: Don't buy Mandrake distros at all. Download them, remove the ads, be happy. As they're getting money that way anyway, I hav

Re: [expert] (OT)Mandrake and Advertising.

2003-09-12 Thread lorne
On Friday 12 September 2003 01:40 am, Guy Van Sanden wrote: > OK, it doesn't sound that bad in the beginning, but this is a dangerous > trend. > Like displaying ads while installing, OK, but will this mean that > usefull messages get less screenspace (ETA, actions, ...) > > I'm also very cautious o

Re: [expert] RC2 installation

2003-09-12 Thread Pierre Fortin
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 09:42:07 -0500 Tom Brinkman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If the md5sums don't check, or you suspect your CD drive Actually, the CDs may still be fine... see Twiki for how to determine if the CD is really OK (md5sum may be wrong due to padding). Want to buy your Pack or

[expert] Can't update Mandrake anymore with rpmdrake

2003-09-12 Thread mendez
Hi, Yesterday, I had planned to update my server (Mandrake 9.0) with the latest patches. I ran the Configuration panel and the "Update software" (rpmdrake). It told me it was going to connect to a server to download the update list... and then that the update list was empty, 'cause I must have in

Re: [expert] (OT)Mandrake and Advertising.

2003-09-12 Thread Guy Van Sanden
On Fri, 2003-09-12 at 16:52, lorne wrote: > On Friday 12 September 2003 01:40 am, Guy Van Sanden wrote: > > OK, it doesn't sound that bad in the beginning, but this is a dangerous > > trend. > > Like displaying ads while installing, OK, but will this mean that > > usefull messages get less screensp

RE: [expert] Can't update Mandrake anymore with rpmdrake

2003-09-12 Thread Lawson, Jim
I had a problem with the mirrors yesterday also. It could not find any. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 11:21 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [expert] Can't update Mandrake anymore with rpmdrake Hi,Yester

Re: [expert] Re: (OT)Mandrake and Advertising.

2003-09-12 Thread Miark
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 16:21:34 +0200, "T. Ribbrock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > How is that a logical conclusion? Just because MDK has another revenue > > source doesn't mean they need your purchases/contributions any less. > > Apparently they don't, as they're making purchasing the box less > a

Re: [expert] Re: (OT)Mandrake and Advertising.

2003-09-12 Thread Brant Fitzsimmons
T. Ribbrock wrote: On Fri, Sep 12, 2003 at 09:25:05AM -0400, Miark wrote: On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 14:15:48 +0200, "T. Ribbrock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Logical conclusion: Don't buy Mandrake distros at all. Download them, remove the ads, be happy. As they're getting money that way anyway,

Re: [expert] Re: (OT)Mandrake and Advertising.

2003-09-12 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Friday 12 September 2003 17:59, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: > Is it really a good idea to deny Mandrake the same type of revenue > source because of an incorrect impression of advertising? I have my doubts whether it's only that. I think a lot of people actually like the stigma of Linux being dif

[expert] pam winbind and wu-imap....

2003-09-12 Thread Ralph Crongeyer
Hi all, I have setup samba with winbind and pam. After successfully joining the domain I can loginto my Mandrake 9.0 box as a windows NT 4.0 domain user and it authenticates to the NT 40 box and creates the users home dir. i did this by editing the /etc/pam.d/login file and adding these lines:

Re: [expert] (OT)Mandrake and Advertising.

2003-09-12 Thread David Rankin
Good bye Mandrake I can think of no more assinine way to kill a distribution's reputation than to add to it what 100% of its user loath. -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. RANKIN * BERTIN, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 (936) 715-9333 (936) 715-9339 fax "...the right

Re: [expert] (OT)Mandrake and Advertising.

2003-09-12 Thread Brant Fitzsimmons
David Rankin wrote: Good bye Mandrake I can think of no more assinine way to kill a distribution's reputation than to add to it what 100% of its user loath. Please don't include me in your loathing. Maybe we just have a different definition of 100%. -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. RA

Re: [expert] (OT)Mandrake and Advertising.

2003-09-12 Thread James Sparenberg
On Fri, 2003-09-12 at 06:14, Miark wrote: > On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 11:44:13 +0200, Guy Van Sanden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Much of the problem is that if it is noticed that too many users do > > textinstalls, they'll probably be removed. > > And how do you imagine they'll "notice" that? Dat

Re: [expert] Nvidia, accelerated 3D support... I'm lost

2003-09-12 Thread Praedor Tempus
Jumping in late, I want to reiterate that you must remove MesaGL rpms if they are installed. They will dork up your nvidia. praedor --- R N dev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If you have an idea of what to look at, feel free > > ;-) > > > Only to try: > > do you have > alias /dev/nvidia* n

Re: [expert] Re: (OT)Mandrake and Advertising.

2003-09-12 Thread James Sparenberg
On Fri, 2003-09-12 at 08:54, Miark wrote: > On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 16:21:34 +0200, "T. Ribbrock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > How is that a logical conclusion? Just because MDK has another revenue > > > source doesn't mean they need your purchases/contributions any less. > > > > Apparently the

Re: [expert] Nvidia, accelerated 3D support... I'm lost

2003-09-12 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Friday 12 September 2003 01:41 pm, Praedor Tempus wrote: > Jumping in late, I want to reiterate that you must > remove MesaGL rpms if they are installed. They will > dork up your nvidia. > > praedor Hmm, which Mesa stuff is that? I have the following installed and it doesn't cause any problem

Re: [expert] (OT)Mandrake and Advertising.

2003-09-12 Thread Richard
On Fri September 12 2003 6:33 am, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: > On Friday 12 September 2003 11:33, Lee Wiggers wrote: > > Let's see if I understand this. Mdk sells advertising for megabucks > > to companies who want to reach mdk users. > > > > Mdk users simply avoid gui install and avoid adverts. > > > >

Re: [expert] (OT)Mandrake and Advertising.

2003-09-12 Thread Charlie M.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 September 12, 2003 11:41 am, David Rankin wrote: > Good bye Mandrake > > I can think of no more assinine way to kill a distribution's > reputation than to add to it what 100% of its user loath. Mr. Rankin; I do believe you're making a fai

Re: [expert] Nvidia, accelerated 3D support... I'm lost

2003-09-12 Thread James Sparenberg
On Fri, 2003-09-12 at 11:16, Ronald J. Hall wrote: > On Friday 12 September 2003 01:41 pm, Praedor Tempus wrote: > > Jumping in late, I want to reiterate that you must > > remove MesaGL rpms if they are installed. They will > > dork up your nvidia. > > > > praedor > > Hmm, which Mesa stuff is tha

[expert] Why doesn't "cat" print content of a file to standard output if the content is only a number ?

2003-09-12 Thread vatbier
ML9.1 here. When I type in a Konsole "cat /var/lock/subsys/dm" no output is generated (dm containing the pid number of process prefdm) to the Konsole. But when I type "kill `cat /var/lock/subsys/dm" the process is effectively killed. I found this command in /etc/rc.d/init.d/dm: " stop) g

Re: [expert] (OT)Mandrake and Advertising.

2003-09-12 Thread James Sparenberg
On Fri, 2003-09-12 at 11:20, Charlie M. wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > September 12, 2003 11:41 am, David Rankin wrote: > > Good bye Mandrake > > > > I can think of no more assinine way to kill a distribution's > > reputation than to add to it what 100% of

[expert] can't connect to /mnt/cdrom (MDK 9.1)

2003-09-12 Thread James D. Parra
Hello, Tried to cd to /mnt/cdrom, but received, -bash: cd: /mnt/cdrom: Input/output error. The fstab has the following entry; none /mnt/cdrom supermount dev=/dev/hdc,fs=auto,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepa ge=850,umask=0 0 0 Why is the "none" in there and is this what is causing the problem? I

Re: [expert] can't connect to /mnt/cdrom (MDK 9.1)

2003-09-12 Thread HaywireMac
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 11:50:34 -0700 "James D. Parra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > Tried to cd to /mnt/cdrom, but received, -bash: cd: /mnt/cdrom: > Input/output error. > > The fstab has the following entry; > > none /mnt/cdrom supermount > dev=/dev/hdc,fs=auto,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepa >

RE: [expert] can't connect to /mnt/cdrom (MDK 9.1)

2003-09-12 Thread James D. Parra
Any CD used. I can mount the floppy from any machine, but the cdrom drives. This is odd. Any clues? Is some process connecting to it? ~James On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 11:50:34 -0700 "James D. Parra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > Tried to cd to /mnt/cdrom, but received, -bash: cd: /mnt/cdrom: > Input

Re: [expert] can't connect to /mnt/cdrom (MDK 9.1)

2003-09-12 Thread James Sparenberg
On Fri, 2003-09-12 at 11:50, James D. Parra wrote: > Hello, > > Tried to cd to /mnt/cdrom, but received, -bash: cd: /mnt/cdrom: Input/output > error. > > The fstab has the following entry; > > none /mnt/cdrom supermount > dev=/dev/hdc,fs=auto,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepa > ge=850,umask=0 0 0

Re: [expert] can't connect to /mnt/cdrom (MDK 9.1)

2003-09-12 Thread HaywireMac
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 12:05:59 -0700 "James D. Parra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > > Any CD used. I can mount the floppy from any machine, but the cdrom > drives. This is odd. Any clues? > > Is some process connecting to it? what is the output of ls -l /dev/cdrom? is this a new install? -- H

Re: [expert] (OT)Mandrake and Advertising.

2003-09-12 Thread Charlie M.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 September 12, 2003 12:51 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: > > Mr. Rankin; > > > > I do believe you're making a fairly broad assumption there David, > > on little or no evidence. In fact I openly stated that I don't care > > what they do to *survive,* as lo

RE: [expert] can't connect to /mnt/cdrom (MDK 9.1)

2003-09-12 Thread James D. Parra
ls: /mnt/cdrom: Input/output error Month old installs on both machines. thx James -Original Message- From: HaywireMac [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 12:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] can't connect to /mnt/cdrom (MDK 9.1) On Fri, 12 Sep

Re: [expert] (OT)Mandrake and Advertising.

2003-09-12 Thread David Rankin
I appreciate your response, and perhaps I was presumtive in my 100% suggestion. I do see your point. So why don't we all just declare the clean elegance of linux code and distributions dead. Let's all say "Hey, it's OK to start down the path of code bloat and incideous little processes running in t

Re: [expert] RC2 installation

2003-09-12 Thread ed tharp
On Fri, 2003-09-12 at 10:42, Tom Brinkman wrote: > On Friday September 12 2003 07:49 am, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: > > Is there anything which I missed during last 10 days? I just > > received my 3 CDs of RC2 and am now in my thirteenth attempt to > > install it on a box where I installed 9.1 just th

RE: [expert] can't connect to /mnt/cdrom (MDK 9.1)

2003-09-12 Thread James D. Parra
Thanks, James, but this is occurring with all CDs. I think, maybe, with the automount is not working, but I don't know. Issuing a umount & then mount doesn't fix it either. James -Original Message- From: James Sparenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 12:06 PM

Re: [expert] AntiVir Personal Edition

2003-09-12 Thread Nigel Wilkinson
Been useing it for about 4 years. I actually used the avmailgate with postfix as a filter. I don't really worry about getting a Linux virus but I don't want to pass anything on to anyone and also my wife used a windows box. I have a cron job that updates the virus definition once a week. My wife's

Re: [expert] (OT)Mandrake and Advertising.

2003-09-12 Thread ed tharp
> > Thanks for the debate James. This is fun. :-) > > Maybe I should get back to work? or take it to the OT list http://mdw1982.dyndns.org/mailman/listinfo/mandrakeot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com

Re: [expert] (OT)Mandrake and Advertising.

2003-09-12 Thread Charlie M.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 September 12, 2003 01:56 pm, David Rankin wrote: > I appreciate your response, and perhaps I was presumtive in my 100% > suggestion. I do see your point. So why don't we all just declare the > clean elegance of linux code and distributions dead. Let'

Re: [expert] (OT)Mandrake and Advertising.

2003-09-12 Thread Charlie M.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 September 12, 2003 02:14 pm, ed tharp wrote: > > Thanks for the debate James. This is fun. :-) > > > > Maybe I should get back to work? > > or take it to the OT list > http://mdw1982.dyndns.org/mailman/listinfo/mandrakeot Thanks for the reference ET b

[expert] 9.2 install

2003-09-12 Thread Gary Montalbine
Installed 9.2 rc2 today. Everything went fine. It even found my unused second HD and installed the program there. Then a problem occurred. It seems I changed lilo in the MBR so now only 9.2 would boot up. Got back to 9.1 by using the rescue disk on CD1. An article I read about dual boot of Mandrake

Re: [expert] RC2 installation

2003-09-12 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
ed tharp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am 12 Sep 2003 16:03:52 -0400: >in any of these crashes was any info available on alt+f3? have you >tried watching the consol messages as you install? atleast it will give >you a good clue if your CDrom reader is the problem, As there were different crashes in

Re: [expert] (OT)Mandrake and Advertising.

2003-09-12 Thread ed tharp
On Fri, 2003-09-12 at 16:26, Charlie M. wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > September 12, 2003 02:14 pm, ed tharp wrote: > > > Thanks for the debate James. This is fun. :-) > > > > > > Maybe I should get back to work? > > > > or take it to the OT list > > http://mdw1982.dy

Re: [expert] can't connect to /mnt/cdrom (MDK 9.1)

2003-09-12 Thread HaywireMac
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 12:48:06 -0700 "James D. Parra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > > ls: /mnt/cdrom: Input/output error no, ls -l /dev/cdrom -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's & More: http://twik

Re: [expert] (OT)Mandrake and Advertising.

2003-09-12 Thread Vincent Danen
On Fri Sep 12, 2003 at 10:51:44AM -0700, James Sparenberg wrote: > > > Much of the problem is that if it is noticed that too many users do > > > textinstalls, they'll probably be removed. > > > > And how do you imagine they'll "notice" that? > > Data Mining, Once you log in it sends back to MDK

RE: [expert] can't connect to /mnt/cdrom (MDK 9.1)

2003-09-12 Thread James D. Parra
ls: /dev/cdrom: No such file or directory Hmmm... What happened there? And how do I fix that? ~James -Original Message- From: HaywireMac [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 1:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] can't connect to /mnt/cdrom (MDK 9.1)

Re: [expert] (OT)Mandrake and Advertising.

2003-09-12 Thread Charlie M.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 September 12, 2003 02:49 pm, Vincent Danen wrote: > On Fri Sep 12, 2003 at 10:51:44AM -0700, James Sparenberg wrote: > > > > Much of the problem is that if it is noticed that too many > > > > users do textinstalls, they'll probably be removed. > > > >

Re: [expert] (OT)Mandrake and Advertising.

2003-09-12 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
"Charlie M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am Fri, 12 Sep 2003 14:56:30 -0600: >> >> What on God's green earth makes you think MandrakeSoft would ever >> stoop to something like this? >> >> We do have principles you know. > >Thank you Vincent, I thought I was fighting alone here. :-) Have you read

Re: [expert] (OT)Mandrake and Advertising.

2003-09-12 Thread James Sparenberg
On Fri, 2003-09-12 at 13:49, Vincent Danen wrote: > On Fri Sep 12, 2003 at 10:51:44AM -0700, James Sparenberg wrote: > > > > > Much of the problem is that if it is noticed that too many users do > > > > textinstalls, they'll probably be removed. > > > > > > And how do you imagine they'll "notice"

Re: [expert] (OT)Mandrake and Advertising.

2003-09-12 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Friday 12 September 2003 23:07, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: > I've nothing against this way of making some extra revenue. OK, so let's start a new thread on Mandrake undercutting ad-prices and selling itself (and thus us) too cheap;o) ..ducking and running ... Good luck, HarM BTW Charlie, when d

Re: [expert] (OT)Mandrake and Advertising.

2003-09-12 Thread Charlie M.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 September 12, 2003 03:07 pm, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: > "Charlie M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am Fri, 12 Sep 2003 > > 14:56:30 -0600: > >> What on God's green earth makes you think MandrakeSoft would ever > >> stoop to something like this? > >> > >>

RE: [expert] can't connect to /mnt/cdrom (MDK 9.1)

2003-09-12 Thread R N dev
nothing i think since your device was /dev/hdc or hdd if i remember well your fstab. Did you touch your fstab before you had trouble? Once happend to me and i shutdown the machine and it worked well again. --- "James D. Parra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ls: /dev/cdrom: No such file or directo

Re: [expert] 9.2 install

2003-09-12 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
Gary Montalbine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am Fri, 12 Sep 2003 16:33:59 -0400: >Installed 9.2 rc2 today. Everything went fine. It even found my unused >second HD and installed the program there. Then a problem occurred. It >seems I changed lilo in the MBR so now only 9.2 would boot up. Got back >

Re: [expert] (OT)Mandrake and Advertising.

2003-09-12 Thread Charlie M.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 September 12, 2003 03:12 pm, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: > On Friday 12 September 2003 23:07, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: > > I've nothing against this way of making some extra revenue. > > OK, so let's start a new thread on Mandrake undercutting ad-prices > and s

Re: [expert] 9.2 install

2003-09-12 Thread Gary Montalbine
Wolfgang Bornath wrote: Gary Montalbine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am Fri, 12 Sep 2003 16:33:59 -0400: Installed 9.2 rc2 today. Everything went fine. It even found my unused second HD and installed the program there. Then a problem occurred. It seems I changed lilo in the MBR so now only 9.2 woul

Re: [expert] (OT)Mandrake and Advertising.

2003-09-12 Thread James Sparenberg
On Fri, 2003-09-12 at 12:42, Charlie M. wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > September 12, 2003 12:51 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: > > > > Mr. Rankin; > > > > > > I do believe you're making a fairly broad assumption there David, > > > on little or no evidence. In fact I ope

Re: [expert] RC2 installation

2003-09-12 Thread James Sparenberg
On Fri, 2003-09-12 at 13:37, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: > ed tharp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am 12 Sep 2003 16:03:52 -0400: > > >in any of these crashes was any info available on alt+f3? have you > >tried watching the consol messages as you install? atleast it will give > >you a good clue if your C

Re: [expert] 9.2 install

2003-09-12 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
Gary Montalbine schrieb am Fri, 12 Sep 2003 17:33:23 -0400: >I am back in 9.1. using the rescue disc. How do I get to choose >between 9.1 and 9.2 at bootup? >Gary Have you installe 9.2 LILO in the BR of the root partition of 9.2? I so, do this: In 9.1 edit your /etc/lilo.conf (as root, of cours

RE: [expert] can't connect to /mnt/cdrom (MDK 9.1)

2003-09-12 Thread James Sparenberg
On Fri, 2003-09-12 at 13:10, James D. Parra wrote: > Thanks, James, but this is occurring with all CDs. I think, maybe, with the > automount is not working, but I don't know. Issuing a umount & then mount > doesn't fix it either. > > James > Have you cleaned the boxes (as in dust removal) of lat

Re: [expert] can't connect to /mnt/cdrom (MDK 9.1)

2003-09-12 Thread HaywireMac
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 14:00:54 -0700 "James D. Parra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > > ls: /dev/cdrom: No such file or directory > Ay caramba! and this is on two seperate machines, and happened just recently?! can you think of *anything* that may have been changed, or that is in common with bot

Re: [expert] can't connect to /mnt/cdrom (MDK 9.1)

2003-09-12 Thread HaywireMac
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 14:13:57 -0700 (PDT) R N dev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > nothing i think since your device > was /dev/hdc or hdd if i remember well your fstab. ah yes, I missed that. I hate to say it, but a reboot might be in order...like R N Dev said. but just out of curiosity, what do

Re: [expert] (OT)Mandrake and Advertising.

2003-09-12 Thread Vincent Danen
On Fri Sep 12, 2003 at 02:56:30PM -0600, Charlie M. wrote: > > > > > Much of the problem is that if it is noticed that too many > > > > > users do textinstalls, they'll probably be removed. > > > > > > > > And how do you imagine they'll "notice" that? > > > > > > Data Mining, Once you log in it s

Re: [expert] (OT)Mandrake and Advertising.

2003-09-12 Thread Vincent Danen
On Fri Sep 12, 2003 at 02:10:58PM -0700, James Sparenberg wrote: > > > > > Much of the problem is that if it is noticed that too many users do > > > > > textinstalls, they'll probably be removed. > > > > > > > > And how do you imagine they'll "notice" that? > > > > > > Data Mining, Once you log

[expert] ML9.1:Kwrite:unicode encoding breaks reading of old iso8859-15 text files

2003-09-12 Thread vatbier
It was really annoying to find out that ML9.1:KDE3.1:Kwrite has as default unicode encoding (utf8) whereas in ML8.2 Kwrite saved files in iso8859-15 encoding. I had a iso8859-15 encoded file that I write in with Kwrite in ML9.1 and in ML8.2. The normal English characters are represented the same in

Re: [expert] I need a sound editor for mp3 and or wav files

2003-09-12 Thread David E. Fox
> Yep! You are genius! Thanks so much. Now let me ask why I need to do this... > Is this because of a bug or the way the application was designed, or is it > like a gnome product that I'm trying to use in KDE? I don't think it has anything to do with gnome. Audacity I believe uses some of the

Re: [expert] root-tail

2003-09-12 Thread David E. Fox
> It is something to do with root-tail, but I can't figure out what it > is... :-( Isn't root-tail some feature of reiserfs? Or am I missing sometning here? According to 'man top' it seems -b just sends lines of top through to stdout until a limit has been reached or until the process is killed.

Re: [expert] root-tail

2003-09-12 Thread HaywireMac
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 15:26:32 -0700 (PDT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David E. Fox) uttered: > > Isn't root-tail some feature of reiserfs? Or am I missing sometning > here? No, it's a package which displays the contents of a file on your root window, kinda cool. > According to 'man top' it seems -b just

[expert] Dynamic dns

2003-09-12 Thread Erik Evjenth
I am migrating from Win XP to Mandrake Linux. My Apache web server is up and running I have a *simple* problem with dynamic IP and DNS: 0. Registered my domain for $7.95 with GoDaddy 1. My DNS is through Zoneedit.com (to support Dynamic DNS) 2. I use "Dynamic DNS Client 5.0" to update Zoneedit

Re: [expert] (OT)Mandrake and Advertising.

2003-09-12 Thread James Sparenberg
On Fri, 2003-09-12 at 15:03, Vincent Danen wrote: > On Fri Sep 12, 2003 at 02:10:58PM -0700, James Sparenberg wrote: > > > > > > > Much of the problem is that if it is noticed that too many users do > > > > > > textinstalls, they'll probably be removed. > > > > > > > > > > And how do you imagine

Re: [expert] RC2 installation

2003-09-12 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Friday September 12 2003 03:37 pm, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: > I'm just posting from there. But it wouldn't install on the other > machine. Going to run a memtest this night. > But just last week I installed 9.1 without a prob! Hmm... > > wobo Probly a good idea, but be warned... memtest86 is

Re: [expert] Dynamic dns

2003-09-12 Thread HaywireMac
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 14:34:01 -0700 "Erik Evjenth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > 2. I use "Dynamic DNS Client 5.0" to update Zoneedit.com when my IP > address changes > > This all works fine, but I have not found a Linux replacement for > "Dynamic DNS Client 5.0" http://zoneclient.sourceforge.ne

Re: [expert] RC2 installation

2003-09-12 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Friday September 12 2003 04:47 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: > A second way to check a disk. (I use and trust this a bit more > than just md5sum) > > cd to the rpms directory on the disk. > > # rpm -K --nogpg *.rpm | grep NOT > > What this does is run and check the md5 sum of each individual > rpm

[expert] Re: Why doesn't "cat" print content of a file to standard output if the content is only a number ?

2003-09-12 Thread vatbier
NO, the output of "cat /var/lock/subsys/dm" is written over by the prompt of my shell (dm has a number like 1114) [EMAIL PROTECTED] home]$ cat /var/lock/subsys/dm [EMAIL PROTECTED] home]$ My system is Mandrake Linux 9.1 with bash v2.05b Is it possible to change this bash behaviour so that the p

Re: [expert] (OT)Mandrake and Advertising.

2003-09-12 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Friday 12 September 2003 03:04 am, James Sparenberg wrote: > Ya'll read... Ya'll decide. > > Conversation is on pclinux. probably best to keep it there. > > http://www.mandrakesoft.com/partners/advertising > > http://pclinuxonline.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=7702 > > For the disc

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