[FairfieldLife] Re: SF Chronicle Datebook Emergency Ad

2006-08-06 Thread george_deforest
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield/MVC Course Photos

2006-08-06 Thread new . morning
There are some old looking dudes in that first pic. Looks like the first part of the film Coccoon. Or bingo night at the church. They may need 3400 of those guys, not 1700, to Save America. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Fairfiel

[FairfieldLife] Fairfield/MVC Course Photos

2006-08-06 Thread George DeForest
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[FairfieldLife] Fairfield/MVC Course Photos

2006-08-06 Thread George DeForest
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > > wrot

[FairfieldLife] Re: Will the real Delusionsist/Fabricator please stand up.

2006-08-06 Thread new . morning
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/106216 Original post: "I can confirm your supposition here. Vaj has never been initiated into, nor taught, TM as taught by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. After I read your piece, I did some research, and some pattern matching, and it is unmistakable. Yo

[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: Shimer

2006-08-06 Thread curtisdeltablues
Thanks Rick, The thing about Steve was that he was the guy who came to my sidhi course at MIU to give us direct info from MMY and he was always so friendly and humble. I got to know him better at the Holland course with MMY where he really talked to me in a real way while we stayed up late and di

[FairfieldLife] Re: Will the real Delusionsist/Fabricator please stand up.

2006-08-06 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As for Vaj being a former TM teacher, I expressed what I did to have > Vaj refute it, which he did not. I'll say it again: Vaj was never a > teacher of TM. Ok. So this knowldge is from Jim's special insight ste

[FairfieldLife] FW: Shimer

2006-08-06 Thread Rick Archer
Title: FW: Shimer Rick, here's some info about Steve Shimer. Please don't post my name!! Steve and Kathi Unger were living in Fairfield, California, about an hour north of SF. Steve had become an acupuncturist and was very involved with Shree Ma (http://www.shreemaa.org/drupal/)   He had al

[FairfieldLife] Re: Will the real Delusionsist/Fabricator please stand up.

2006-08-06 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning wrote: > > > > This reminds me. The great Jim / Vaj truth issue was never addressed. > > > OK, I admit it. Vaj is me and I am him. The parts of me who are Jim > a

[FairfieldLife] Re:of the DC course

2006-08-06 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I notice that the ³Raja¹s² wives are now referred to as ³The > Mothers of the > > Domains.² > > > (this is too easy) > > ...and I suppose that makes the Raja's "Masters of their Domain"... > Only if they "etra

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > wrote: > > > > > > "> Enjoying pain implies empathy, just inverted." > > > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re:of the DC course

2006-08-06 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 8/6/06 10:23 PM, dhamiltony2k5 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > This is beautiful, except oh, that Mario is paid to write and > > publish things like this. It is his job in the TMorg. He is good > > at it. > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > > > "> Enjoying pain implies empathy, just inverted." > > > > No. That is not how they are processing it according to this > > author. A sadi

[FairfieldLife] Re:of the DC course

2006-08-06 Thread scienceofabundance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is beautiful, except oh, that Mario is paid to write and > publish things like this. It is his job in the TMorg. He is good > at it. > >--snip-- It's pretty good, but I think mine was better...mainly be

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sociopaths

2006-08-06 Thread curtisdeltablues
Interesting distinction. There are so many shades of disorder in human psychology aren't there? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sociopaths are far and few inbetween. Superficially > people who are narcissistic appear to be sociopathic > to the untrained

[FairfieldLife] "God of the Genome"

2006-08-06 Thread authfriend
Excerpts from an interview at Salon.com with Francis Collins, head of the Human Genome Project, about his religious beliefs (he's an evangelical Christian), which he discusses in his new book, "The Language of God." ..."The God of the Bible is also the God of the genome," he writes. "He can be

[FairfieldLife] [was Re: Number of people learning TM ] Vaj's trap

2006-08-06 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" wrote: > > In fact it is a rigid egoic stance that Vaj has committed himself > > to, and cannot now see the falsity of. > > > > Why do I say this? Simply becau

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sociopaths

2006-08-06 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OK- no problem with your response. No, I don't have a thorn in my > side. I was commenting very specifically on your hints but not > names. I just don't find it very useful is all- and I cannot > speculate who you

[FairfieldLife] Re: Will the real Delusionsist/Fabricator please stand up.

2006-08-06 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This reminds me. The great Jim / Vaj truth issue was never addressed. > OK, I admit it. Vaj is me and I am him. The parts of me who are Jim are enlightened, living permanent Self-Realization. The parts of me that ar

[FairfieldLife] [was Re: Number of people learning TM ] Vaj's trap

2006-08-06 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In fact it is a rigid egoic stance that Vaj has committed himself > to, and cannot now see the falsity of. > > Why do I say this? Simply because of his inability to respond when > his postings are criticized. Inste

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SF Chronicle Datebook Emergency Ad

2006-08-06 Thread Bhairitu
I also put it in the files section under photos as it doesn't show up on the web site. Bhairitu wrote: >Try turning on HTML to view the message in your email program or look at >it from the web site. It's from the "pink" section. > > >shempmcgurk wrote: > > > >>It's a lovely X. >> >> >>

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM degree held hostage

2006-08-06 Thread dhamiltony2k5
The admissions people asked him if he had been seeing saints. He asked what difference it > made and refused to discuss it. They told him he would have to leave. Yes,this guy is bound by the same damnable problem that the meditating community now generally, visiting saints but in a different

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM degree held hostage

2006-08-06 Thread dhamiltony2k5
The admissions people asked him if he had been seeing saints. He asked what difference it > made and refused to discuss it. They told him he would have to leave. Yes,this guy is bound by the same damnable problem that the meditating community now generally, visiting saints but in a different

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sociopaths

2006-08-06 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" wrote: > > You are dancing, but not facing the music. What good does it do > > anyone for you to indicate per your list that "possibly one lister" > > fits the

[FairfieldLife] Will the real Delusionsist/Fabricator please stand up.

2006-08-06 Thread new . morning
This reminds me. The great Jim / Vaj truth issue was never addressed. A while back you, jim, said you "looked at Vaj the right way" and saw he never took a TTC, never became a TM teacher, and was not even ever initiated into TM. To do so, I assume you are using your gifts of clarity of insight ste

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sociopaths

2006-08-06 Thread Peter
Sociopaths are far and few inbetween. Superficially people who are narcissistic appear to be sociopathic to the untrained eye. --- curtisdeltablues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think a lot of the points against the book are > valid. The book > still rocks. It is popular psychology for the >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re:of the DC course

2006-08-06 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re:of the DC course on 8/6/06 10:23 PM, dhamiltony2k5 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is beautiful, except oh, that Mario is paid to write and publish things like this.  It is his job in the TMorg.  He is good at it. By the looks it doesn't look like there are t

[FairfieldLife] Re:of the DC course

2006-08-06 Thread dhamiltony2k5
This is beautiful, except oh, that Mario is paid to write and publish things like this. It is his job in the TMorg. He is good at it. By the looks it doesn't look like there are too many folks there. Carefully taken pictures w/ smoke&mirrors? There used to be a lot of people out there once

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sociopaths

2006-08-06 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You are dancing, but not facing the music. What good does it do > anyone for you to indicate per your list that "possibly one lister" > fits the criteria that you are describing? You obviously have people > in mind

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sociopaths

2006-08-06 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I was intrigued by Gerbal's definition of sociopath: "it simply > indicates someone who has no sense of or possibly no respect >for > someone else's sense of "boundaries" (among other things)." > > I thought, Ok, I k

[FairfieldLife] Sociopaths

2006-08-06 Thread new . morning
I was intrigued by Gerbal's definition of sociopath: "it simply indicates someone who has no sense of or possibly no respect >for someone else's sense of "boundaries" (among other things)." I thought, Ok, I know any number of people who do not know, are insensitive to, or show little or no respect

[FairfieldLife] [was Re: Number of people learning TM ] Vaj's trap

2006-08-06 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > >It's also sad that some people are still "burning a candle" > > >for it all. There will a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM  (was: Victory Beef or War?) on 8/6/06 8:56 PM, Sal Sunshine at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick, Not sure if this is the same person or not, since I'm not that great with names...but was he married to someone named Beth, with a couple

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM  (was: Victory Beef or War?) on 8/6/06 8:03 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > Doing fine I suspect. Somewhere in Canada. Was working with John > Cowhig and > > Gregg Wilson. > > I feel the need to point out the c

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM  (was: Victory Beef or War?) n 8/6/06 7:57 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First, thanks for the run-down, Rick. Re: Jerry: Nisargadatta?  Is this a guru?  I goodled him and that's what it seems? Yes. I use http://www.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sociopaths

2006-08-06 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > a practicing psychologist and an instructor in the psychiatry > department at Harvard Medical School And...? > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogrou

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "> Enjoying pain implies empathy, just inverted." > > No. That is not how they are processing it according to this > author. A sadist may operate the way you describe, from empathy. > But the result is that

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sociopaths

2006-08-06 Thread curtisdeltablues
a practicing psychologist and an instructor in the psychiatry department at Harvard Medical School --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > > > I think a lot of the points against th

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 8/6/06 7:50 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > > , "markmeredith2002" wrote: > >> > > >> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoo

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > > > --- I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sociopaths

2006-08-06 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think a lot of the points against the book are valid. The book > still rocks. It is popular psychology for the layman. (Er, there's no such thing as popular psychology for experts. Popular psychology is f

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread curtisdeltablues
Wow! I am so blown away. Life is so fragile. Thanks for telling me. He was one of the good ones. I am really sorry to hear this, but glad I know. Thanks Rick. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > n 8/6/06 6:51 PM, curtisdeltablues at [EMAIL PRO

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread Sal Sunshine
Rick, Not sure if this is the same person or not, since I'm not that great with names...but was he married to someone named Beth, with a couple of kids, living out in Seattle, or somewhere else on the West coast? Sal On Aug 6, 2006, at 8:49 PM, Rick Archer wrote: n 8/6/06 6:51 PM, curtisdeltabl

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM  (was: Victory Beef or War?) on 8/6/06 7:50 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , "markmeredith2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer wrote:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM  (was: Victory Beef or War?) n 8/6/06 6:51 PM, curtisdeltablues at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you missed one of my favorite guys from the old days: Steve Sheimer (sp?).  Very human and approachable. Yes. Wonderful guy. I’m not

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SF Chronicle Datebook Emergency Ad

2006-08-06 Thread Bhairitu
Try turning on HTML to view the message in your email program or look at it from the web site. It's from the "pink" section. shempmcgurk wrote: > It's a lovely X. > > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Jo

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > wrote: > > > > > > > > -

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" > > > wrote: > > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > > > -

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer wrote: > > > > > > > > >> > John Cowhig > > > > > > > Working for a guitar company in Canada

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer wrote: > > > > > >> > John Cowhig > > > > > Working for a guitar company in Canada. Spending lots of time in the > woods > > > >> > Ron Dector > > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: SF Chronicle Datebook Emergency Ad

2006-08-06 Thread shempmcgurk
It's a lovely X. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 8/6/06 4:28 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Rick: > > > > I'd really love it if you would go over the list name by name and > > tell us "where they are now" and whether they're still doing TM, e

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > > >It's also sa

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > >It's also sad that some people are still "burning a candle" > > >for it all. There will a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer wrote: > > > > > >> > John Cowhig > > > > > Working for a guitar company in Canada. Spending lots of time in the > woods > > > >> > Ron Dector > > > > > D

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sociopaths

2006-08-06 Thread curtisdeltablues
I think a lot of the points against the book are valid. The book still rocks. It is popular psychology for the layman. It is her clinical opinion from her experience with this small group of our population. If you have interacted with only one of these people in your life, it is one too many.

[FairfieldLife] Sociopaths

2006-08-06 Thread new . morning
The book looks intersting. In amazon, there are mnay positive reviews. In addition to those, I like to look at the negative ones. At times, they can be quite insightful as to possible shortcomings -- particualry ones the positive reviewers are oblivious to. Unbelievably Shoddy, November 3, 2005

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Aug 6, 2006, at 4:43 PM, authfriend wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > >> It's one of the wealthiest areas of the country. Presumably this > >> is the sector TM is marketed towards and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread curtisdeltablues
I think you missed one of my favorite guys from the old days: Steve Sheimer (sp?). Very human and approachable. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 8/6/06 4:28 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Rick: > > > > I'd really love it if

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM  (was: Victory Beef or War?) on 8/6/06 6:15 PM, markmeredith2002 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I feel the need to point out the cowhig, dector and wilson raised and lost millions and millions of $$ from gullible sidhas for their "gover

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > > >It's also sad that

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> > John Cowhig > > > Working for a guitar company in Canada. Spending lots of time in the woods > >> > Ron Dector > > > Doing fine I suspect. Somewhere in Canada. Was working with John Cowhig and > Gregg Wilson.

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's secretaries

2006-08-06 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 8/6/06 3:45 PM, gerbal88 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > It is a great contribution, Rick. I certainly knew Ned, Casey, Mark, > > Rob and so many others. > > > > Do you know how to contact Billy Clayton? D

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread curtisdeltablues
Right. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > > > "> Enjoying pain implies empathy, just inverted." > > > > > > No. That is not how they are processing it according to this author. > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "> Enjoying pain implies empathy, just inverted." > > > No. That is not how they are processing it according to this author. > A sadist may operate the way you describe, from empathy. > But the result is tha

[FairfieldLife] Re: The List: who has left the Movement and started their own cult/movement?

2006-08-06 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning wrote: > > > > > > > > Did he? Or did he just say, "I won't support teaching that through > > the TM organizaiton. If > > > you want to teach that, you're on your own

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread curtisdeltablues
Cool! I look forward to your perspective on it. I have shared it with some friends and it provokes a lot of thought. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Curtis, > OK, found a good deal from Amazon, so it should be on its way tomorrow. > > On Aug

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread curtisdeltablues
"> Enjoying pain implies empathy, just inverted." No. That is not how they are processing it according to this author. A sadist may operate the way you describe, from empathy. But the result is that sociopaths experience pleasure in tormenting others as if it is a game and they are winning. Are

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread Sal Sunshine
Curtis, OK, found a good deal from Amazon, so it should be on its way tomorrow. On Aug 6, 2006, at 4:31 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: > Hey Sal, > > It is in all the libraries around here. It is both chilling and > comforting. It explains a lot. I think 1 in 100 have diabetes, and > we all know

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You might have to read the book to understand the concept. According > to the author they can get a real kick out of inflicting psychological > pain on others. It is a game for them. They enjoy seeing others

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > >It's also sad that some people are still "burning a candle" > > >for it all. There will al

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's secretaries

2006-08-06 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's secretaries on 8/6/06 4:36 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Billy Clayton...didn't he play with the Beatles on their Abbey Road sessions? That was Billy Preston. He died recently. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTE

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread curtisdeltablues
You might have to read the book to understand the concept. According to the author they can get a real kick out of inflicting psychological pain on others. It is a game for them. They enjoy seeing others squirm before their power to inflict misery. They are not robots with no emotions, they jus

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM  (was: Victory Beef or War?) on 8/6/06 4:34 PM, gerbal88 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good for you. Lillian could be an absolute misery. But when she and I went for long walks, she was actually quite nice and seemed to need a friend

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM  (was: Victory Beef or War?) on 8/6/06 4:28 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick: I'd really love it if you would go over the list name by name and tell us "where they are now" and whether they're still doing TM, etc.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread uns_tressor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > >It's also sad that some people are still "burning a candle" > >for it all. There will always be enablers for the sociopaths > >and always those who never see bey

[FairfieldLife] Good news from the David Lynch Foundation

2006-08-06 Thread George DeForest
Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2006 From: "David Lynch Foundation" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Good news from the David Lynch Foundation -- Dear Friend of the David Lynch Foundation, Good news! We've just received our first $1,000,000 check in the mail to fund in-school programs. And that has already been

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM  (was: Victory Beef or War?) on 8/6/06 3:54 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, according to a friend of his from his undergrad days, he was discussing the possibility that QM would account for Yogic Flying while still

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's secretaries

2006-08-06 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's secretaries on 8/6/06 3:45 PM, gerbal88 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   It is a great contribution, Rick. I certainly knew Ned, Casey, Mark, Rob and so many others. Do you know how to contact Billy Clayton? Does anyone? I would very much like to speak wi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote: > > > > Curtis, this is on my list! But, cheapskate that I am, I haven't been > > able to find a good deal on a used one yet. Glad to hear you read and >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread curtisdeltablues
"I think he was referring to their fuckability factor." Yes that is it. Celibacy was the criteria for the M techniques according to Paul. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > wrote: > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread curtisdeltablues
He is in a Cistercian monastery in Conyers, Georgia last I heard. That is the place he was before his years in the movement. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > > > Great story

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's secretaries

2006-08-06 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It is a great contribution, Rick. I certainly knew Ned, Casey, Mark, > Rob and so many others. > > Do you know how to contact Billy Clayton? Does anyone? I would very > much like to speak with him again. Billy C

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread curtisdeltablues
Hey Sal, It is in all the libraries around here. It is both chilling and comforting. It explains a lot. I think 1 in 100 have diabetes, and we all know someone with that. Here we have 1 in 25, so that pretty much means this is a condition for a few people we know. The case histories in the bo

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread gerbal88
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > wrote: > > > > > > I think it is great that you got to that level of exposure. It > > g

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's secretaries

2006-08-06 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 8/6/06 3:20 PM, gerbal88 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Thanks for the list. How did it come about, I wonder. > > > I put it together about a year ago, on a whim. As it was forming, I sent it > to several of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > > > Great story! It sounds like you had the MMY job with Guru Dev for a > > while, reading his mail, how interesting. Paul Marashall, who wa

[FairfieldLife] Re: The List: who has left the Movement and started their own cult/movement?

2006-08-06 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread shempmcgurk
Rick: I'd really love it if you would go over the list name by name and tell us "where they are now" and whether they're still doing TM, etc. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 8/6/06 2:53 PM, gerbal88 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Gerbal, I¹

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 8/6/06 2:53 PM, gerbal88 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Gerbal, I¹m curious who you are. I presume you¹re maintaining anonymity > intentionally. Are you on this list of MMY¹s personal secretaries?: > > Dr. Hyslo

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > > > I think it is great that you got to that level of exposure. It > gives > > you a rare perspective on the whole thing that is really rare. Plu

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi?

2006-08-06 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > Ah., one medline hit for sahaj. No EEG research, so no comparison can be made: Quite a few more for sahaja, however. 5 hits on "EEG sahaja", but they're not looking at EEG coherence, so its impossible to make comp

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Great story! It sounds like you had the MMY job with Guru Dev for a > while, reading his mail, how interesting. Paul Marashall, who was an > M initiator, told me that he asked MMY about non M initiators te

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Curtis, this is on my list! But, cheapskate that I am, I haven't been > able to find a good deal on a used one yet. Glad to hear you read and > enjoyed it. > > On Aug 6, 2006, at 3:11 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Curtis, this is on my list! But, cheapskate that I am, I haven't been > able to find a good deal on a used one yet. Glad to hear you read and > enjoyed it. > > On Aug 6, 2006, at 3:11 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread Sal Sunshine
Curtis, this is on my list! But, cheapskate that I am, I haven't been able to find a good deal on a used one yet. Glad to hear you read and enjoyed it. On Aug 6, 2006, at 3:11 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: > One of the best books I have read this year is called "The Sociopath > Next Door" by Ma

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Aug 6, 2006, at 4:43 PM, authfriend wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > >> It's one of the wealthiest areas of the country. Presumably this > >> is the sector TM is marketed towards and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread curtisdeltablues
So, do splits count to stretch ligaments? I don't know if splits stretches ligaments. Usually that kind of exercise is for specialized training like gymnastics or some kicking styles in martial arts. It may be too extreme a stretch for most athletic activities. It requires an opposing strength t

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