[FairfieldLife] Re: Sam Harris and Michael Shermer debate Deepak and Jean Houston

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > I'm hoping I get to surf the Bardo and play the game > > again. If I'm wrong and the world just goes black > > along with any self or self-identity, big deal.

[FairfieldLife] How it is GE pays less income taxes than you do

http://www.forbes.com/2010/04/01/ge-exxon-walmart-business-washington-corporate-taxes_print.html http://tinyurl.com/yk4vgyu -- A Montana rancher got in his pickup and drove to a neighboring ranch and knocked at the door. A young boy, about 9, opened the door "Is your Dad home?" the rancher asked

[FairfieldLife] Post Count

Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): Sat Apr 03 00:00:00 2010 End Date (UTC): Sat Apr 10 00:00:00 2010 59 messages as of (UTC) Sat Apr 03 23:47:04 2010 10 authfriend 10 TurquoiseB 8 lurkernomore20002000 5 nablusoss1008 4 "steve.brennon" 3 tartbrain 3

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sam Harris and Michael Shermer debate Deepak and Jean Houston

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" wrote: > > > But as I understand it (and I > > > could be wrong but this is what scientists are saying) just > > > ha

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sam Harris and Michael Shermer debate Deepak and Jean Houston

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" wrote: > > > I just finished reading Biocentrism by Robert Lanza. MD. He > > cites the idea that human awareness of an experiement > > actually changes the result - an oft-cited ide

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sam Harris and Michael Shermer debate Deepak and Jean Houston

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > I'm hoping I get to surf the Bardo and play the game > again. If I'm wrong and the world just goes black > along with any self or self-identity, big deal. I > won't even be there to know about it, much less be > there to be disappointed.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sam Harris and Michael Shermer debate Deepak and Jean Houston

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" wrote: > I just finished reading Biocentrism by Robert Lanza. MD. He > cites the idea that human awareness of an experiement > actually changes the result - an oft-cited idea by New Agers > and spiritual folk of many types. In reading a critque

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sam Harris and Michael Shermer debate Deepak and Jean Houston

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" wrote: > > In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > "Intervention" would obviate and invalidate the whole > > idea of karma, which IMO is that *you* are supposed to > > learn from the results of your own actions. You ste

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sam Harris and Michael Shermer debate Deepak and Jean Houston

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > ne of the points I was trying to make about > > quantum physicists talking about God > > FWIW, there's an erroneous assumption that because > many of the early (and som

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sam Harris and Michael Shermer debate Deepak and Jean Houston

I was a little rushed in my initial reply, and did not intend to bring in reincarnation as a forgone conclusion. But, I must say that in my system of belief, I cannot make sense of the idea of karma without reincarnation. A few other comments below In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sam Harris and Michael Shermer debate Deepak and Jean Houston

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: But before you get all excited and start pointing your puja in her direction Hold it right there. Just got my minimum daily requirement of LOL. I gotta warn you, one night and you'll be getting drunk-texts in the middle of the

[FairfieldLife] Re: UFO over Lake Erie?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > LOL, more like "approaching airplane". > > Sorry, no, not these. "Approaching airplanes" aren't visible > for two hours straight. FAA says, according to David Shuster > of MSN

[FairfieldLife] Re: UFO over Lake Erie?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > LOL, more like "approaching airplane". > > Sorry, no, not these. "Approaching airplanes" aren't visible > for two hours straight. FAA says, according to David Shuster > of MSNBC

[FairfieldLife] Re: UFO over Lake Erie?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > LOL, more like "approaching airplane". Sorry, no, not these. "Approaching airplanes" aren't visible for two hours straight. FAA says, according to David Shuster of MSNBC, "The light pattern seems different from commercial fight paths in the are

[FairfieldLife] Those pesky "Guardian" folks

Mainstream news is giving quite a bit of press to the "Guardians of the Free Republic" this weekend. That may backfire as people check into what they are about. http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0403/fbi-dhs-probe-guardians-demanded-governors-resign/ I came across this group over a week ago when one

[FairfieldLife] Maddow reviews ACORN, Climategate and other GOP Lies

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9KjQUSZXqE

[FairfieldLife] Re: UFO over Lake Erie?

Probably he's afraid it's MMY descended in a space vehicle (akasha-vimana) to temp him with more offers of siddhis. Since he's a honeyed-stage yogin(madhu-bhumika) possessed of vision that sees only the truth (rtambhara-prajna), he knows that all kinds of highly placed beings (sthAnin) are just w

[FairfieldLife] Re: and European PIGS

Funny. I had to look it up to see if there actually was a place calling itself the "Shires of Albion". Here on the West side of the pond it sounds like the name of a residential home owners association. I had to look up "git" also. It was proffered up as a derived slang pronunciation of "beget",

[FairfieldLife] Re: UFO over Lake Erie?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > LOL, more like "approaching airplane". > > On Apr 3, 2010, at 11:52 AM, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_qbRyUHFCs&feature=player_embedded# > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2disi7i0tE&feature=related > > http://

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sam Harris and Michael Shermer debate Deepak and Jean Houston

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" wrote: > > Okay, thanks for elaborating on that. I follow along pretty > well, and see the point you are trying to make. Apart from > this consideration, however, when you introduce "karma" into > the equation, then I think things g

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra failed to prove existence of God to atheists

On Apr 3, 2010, at 6:20 AM, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > > > Ah. I see my post worked exactly as intended. > > Judy can dive deep within twice a day while the Turq is stuck in his mind, > left to do lucid dreaming like any spir

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sam Harris and Michael Shermer debate Deepak and Jean Houston

Okay, thanks for elaborating on that. I follow along pretty well, and see the point you are trying to make. Apart from this consideration, however, when you introduce "karma" into the equation, then I think things get more personal. Like, you die. You are reborn. You have a period of reflectio

Re: [FairfieldLife] UFO over Lake Erie?

LOL, more like "approaching airplane". On Apr 3, 2010, at 11:52 AM, nablusoss1008 wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_qbRyUHFCs&feature=player_embedded# > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2disi7i0tE&feature=related > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqZ0FwW8GKI&feature=related

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self Supporting Ontological Identities - was Deepak Chopra failed etc

Silly wabbit -- love is not object oriented -- lust is. True love broadcasts upon all -- it does not stint. Jesus loved the guy who was pounding the nails inbut no more or less than He loved His crying mother. One doesn't choose to love. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Turquoi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self Supporting Ontological Identities - was Deepak Chopra failed etc

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "anatol_zinc" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" > wrote: > > > > ... I have tried to adopt a more Quaker approach to my everyday > > languaage, and try to stick to basic terms, even if my > > vocabulary might have a fanci

[FairfieldLife] UFO over Lake Erie?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_qbRyUHFCs&feature=player_embedded# http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2disi7i0tE&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqZ0FwW8GKI&feature=related

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self Supporting Ontological Identities - was Deepak Chopra failed etc

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" wrote: > > ... I have tried to adopt a more Quaker approach to my everyday > languaage, and try to stick to basic terms, even if my > vocabulary might have a fancier, more "impressive" word. > I like that idea of silence vs. samadhi. .

[FairfieldLife] UFO Spotted Over Lake Erie Near Euclid Ohio 3/11/2010

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ed_d9we588I&feature=player_embedded

[FairfieldLife] One of most translated & popular books on planet earth ?

Is "Tao Te Ching" by Lao Tzu >From www.thetao.info In ancient China about 2500 years ago, the keeper of the Imperial Library, Lao Tzu, was famous for his wisdom. Perceiving the growing corruption of the government, he left for the countryside. On his way, the guard at t

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self Supporting Ontological Identities - was Deepak Chopra failed etc

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > snip > > > > > > Must be due to the "mistake of the emotions." > > > > Emotions can't be mistaken or not mistaken. Emotions > > can be due to poor reasoning, however.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sam Harris and Michael Shermer debate Deepak and Jean Houston

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > ne of the points I was trying to make about > quantum physicists talking about God FWIW, there's an erroneous assumption that because many of the early (and some of the current) quantum physicists were into mysticism, they must have conn

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self Supporting Ontological Identities - was Deepak Chopra failed etc

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: snip > > > > Must be due to the "mistake of the emotions." > > Emotions can't be mistaken or not mistaken. Emotions > can be due to poor reasoning, however. And that *is* > a criticism. Oh, SNAP! Long or short, all discussions with you

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sam Harris and Michael Shermer debate Deepak and Jean Houston

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > Yes, pitiable indeed. > Om, 'Forgive them father, for they know not what they are doing'. Identifying with Jesus are you? I saw this on the Simpsons when they visited Jerusalem and Homer got Jerusalem Syndrome and thought he was the messia

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra failed to prove existence of God to atheists

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > This is all about me calling her a cunt Couldn't possibly be more wrong. Yours truly, THE CORRECTOR

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sam Harris and Michael Shermer debate Deepak and Jean Houston

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" wrote: > > Thanks for the feedback Thanks for perceiving it *as* feedback, and nothing more. One of the points I was trying to make about quantum physicists talking about God or astrophys- icists merely *assuming* that the universe had

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self Supporting Ontological Identities - was Deepak Chopra failed etc

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain wrote: > > > > > > thats the P

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self Supporting Ontological Identities - was Deepak Chopra failed etc

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain wrote: > > > > thats the Primary mistake of the Intellect > > > > I found this phrase in the movement to be o

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sam Harris and Michael Shermer debate Deepak and Jean Houston

Thanks for the feedback --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" steve.sundur@ wrote: > > > > -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > My idea of the universe is an enormous, eternal operating >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self Supporting Ontological Identities - was Deepak Chopra failed etc

Thanks for the feeback. I think you're right about the tendency to pick up on some buzz words and insert them into how we describe things. But like you, I have tried to adopt a more Quaker approach to my everyday languaage, and try to stick to basic terms, even if my vocabulary might have a fan

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sam Harris and Michael Shermer debate Deepak and Jean Houston

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > > > Well if being condescending makes you feel better about > > yourself... > > > > You seem to have a pretty strong opinion yourself about my > > subjective experience. An

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sam Harris and Michael Shermer debate Deepak and Jean Houston

> > > Yes, pitiable indeed. > Om, 'Forgive them father, for they know not what they are doing'. Ignorant > in spiritual experience they are lost in their contending mentation. An one, > he even traded his immortal soul for a guitar. Consider the source. These > people are like modern day p

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sam Harris and Michael Shermer debate Deepak and Jean Houston

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > Yep unitary is my experience. I feel sorry in a human way for Shirmer, Sam > > Harris, Gina, Curtis and Turqs, the doubting Thomas' full with lots of > > opinion, an

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra failed to prove existence of God to atheists

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > > > Ah. I see my post worked exactly as intended. > > Judy can dive deep within twice a day while the Turq is stuck in > his mind, left to do lucid dreaming like any

[FairfieldLife] Beyond Time. Eternity

Beyond Time. Eternity. (Beyond the perception of changing events - - an old email to somebody) With regard to that aspect of your experience Grant, may I offer this ….. ("But how can one say, 'I was above the curve of time...' my kids (both in their thirties) laugh at me".) First, don't tell th

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra failed to prove existence of God to atheists

> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > Ah. I see my post worked exactly as intended. Judy can dive deep within twice a day while the Turq is stuck in his mind, left to do lucid dreaming like any spiritual baby.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sam Harris and Michael Shermer debate Deepak and Jean Houston

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" wrote: > > -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > My idea of the universe is an enormous, eternal operating > > system. It was never created, and it never ends, thus > > there is no need to postulate a "creator." It

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sam Harris and Michael Shermer debate Deepak and Jean Houston

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > My idea of the universe is an enormous, eternal operating > > system. It was never created, and it never ends, thus > > there is no need to postulate a "creator.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self Supporting Ontological Identities - was Deepak Chopra failed etc

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" wrote: > > I've got to figure out what this refinement of experience > that seems to grow in my life is all about. I like the idea > of saying, "this is cool, I am operating at a more quantum > level of consciousness", where I am a l

[FairfieldLife] Of whom what where and when.

Of whom what where and when. Gawd strewth Tracey woman you don't half yak on :- ))) But no problem, I like it, and I am sure the group owner would feel the same. It is the one liner sarcastic jerks that make me angry and bite back :- ) But I tell you what, if you and I were married the kids woul

[FairfieldLife] Re: and European PIGS

Well that is OK then. I am a Cockney Git but living in the Shires of Albion. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" wrote: > > > Don't take it personally. PIGS is an acronym for Portugal, Ireland, > Greece, Spain. >