[FairfieldLife] RE: 2014 Predictions

2014-01-05 Thread seekliberation
Classic! "This year is going to be an eventful year".."Something big is going to happen, but I don't know what". Not that I don't believe in astrology, I actually do. But cold weather, conflict and wars. pretty easy to predict even without astrology. seekliberation

[FairfieldLife] Re: US Sends B2 Bombers to South Korea

2013-03-28 Thread seekliberation
a bar. He'll posture up just enough to intimidate anyone who is weak or afraid, but the moment someone walks up to him with any significant fighting experience, he'll shut up and back down. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote: > > Obama

[FairfieldLife] Re: Stars who practice TM...why is it important?

2013-03-24 Thread seekliberation
holding onto the idea of winning another lottery of followers like back in the 70's. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dick Mays wrote: > > > > From: Ken Chawkin > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Men only,

2013-03-23 Thread seekliberation
I felt reading a book or attending a weekend is not a bad idea, provided someone needs it. But the whole group/social club thing, I saw serious problems with it. That whole Sterling group in FF had an entire thought-process that was identical from one man to the next. Eventually, nobody seeme

[FairfieldLife] Re: Men only,

2013-03-23 Thread seekliberation
jor pain in the ass when I announced to the group that I didn't want anything to do with them anymore. It's worse than trying to tell a military recruiter that you changed your mind… ..literally. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27" wrote: &g

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM

2013-03-17 Thread seekliberation
of TM and consistent practice and experience of transcendence. I also remember references to Bhuddism quite often as well. But no matter what, nothing was ever welcome whatsoever unless it was being seen and perceived in the context of SCI & TM. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@y

[FairfieldLife] Re: Drinking coffee made from snow....

2013-03-12 Thread seekliberation
I sure hope that if/when our economy collapses that the North Koreans will have the same compassion to us that they have to their own people. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote

[FairfieldLife] Re: Same old, same old

2013-03-12 Thread seekliberation
ime I disdain some of the self-righteousness I see among people who try too hard to live a pure life. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: > > Oh no seeklib - no holistic or any other regimented lifestyle for me ever. In > fact I met someone yest

[FairfieldLife] Re: Same old, same old

2013-03-12 Thread seekliberation
a splurge once in a while. For me, it's one of my 'mediocre' activities (among others). seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: > > Close to Camp Pendleton - but seeklib I have some terrible news, the Feds > pulled the plug on this w

[FairfieldLife] Re: Same old, same old

2013-03-11 Thread seekliberation
se of humor is still intact. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: > > No, no seeklib - this is all legal, legit - federally approved, funded centre > that I run where we have controlled, combat style confrontations - so yeah > bring all your co

[FairfieldLife] Re: Same old, same old

2013-03-11 Thread seekliberation
as anyone else. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > There is NO QUESTION that I rarely stretch myself on FFL > these days. You may call it laziness, but I tend to see > it more as a combination of lack of inspiration (from > other posters)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Same old, same old

2013-03-11 Thread seekliberation
h of us. You sound like someone who lives a bit on the edge while I have a career and a wife to take care of, so I have to go the conservative route with this one. By the way...from your posts, i've seen plenty of others say some pretty shitty things to you in the past, what exactly was

[FairfieldLife] Re: Same old, same old

2013-03-11 Thread seekliberation
ravel a lot, so chances are I may end up in your state some day as well. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: > > You are a fucking idiot seeklib - take your fence-sitting, garbage > platitude belief system elsewhere or have an orgy with Xeno. >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Same old, same old

2013-03-11 Thread seekliberation
y it, I just recognize it for what it is. Not every class at MIU/MUM was the greatest, but there were pearls of wisdom often enough. Not every moment with my wife, nor every workout at the gym is awesomebut i'll always stick with it. So if you took insultrelax. It's jus

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dialogue - A proposal . . .

2013-03-11 Thread seekliberation
thanks to TM, I diverted from that route. However, as the years have gone by, i've become quite disappointed in how limited knowledge and experience seems to be in the whole TMO. But it served its purpose, and I am thankful for it. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Same old, same old

2013-03-11 Thread seekliberation
cal point, it turned into a ridiculous game of ping-pong. But then again, nothing can be great all the time. There will always be dull moments, exciting moments, and mediocre moments in anything. FFL is certainly no exception, and therefore nothing to really complain about. seekliberat

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders

2013-03-06 Thread seekliberation
evelopment that learning how to tone down the ego is supposed to be a good idea. Imagine if we never put stickers or smiley faces on our childrens graded papers? No honor rolls, no trophies, no recognition? The ego is important, but outlives its purpose at some point. seekliberation --- I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders

2013-03-06 Thread seekliberation
meditators/siddhas and especially the higher-ups of the TMO. And although I hate to disrespect MMY because I do feel a lot of gratitude for TM, I really felt he had a serious attitude problem in the later years of his life. I simply can't stand to be in the presence of people who feel they are 'owed' something. And MMY seemed to function with the attitude and expectation that America 'owed' him something for TM. Right or wrong, I've always believed in a quote I read on a bumpersticker once: "Contrary to belief, nobody owes you anything" seekliberation

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders

2013-03-05 Thread seekliberation
They are superior in that if you pay for them, it fills up the TMO's pockets with more money. More money = Superior. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > > My question is, if the TM mantras are superior, how are they superior? >

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Bush dynasty potential comeback?

2013-03-05 Thread seekliberation
e GWB, mentally, emotionally, and perhaps morally as well. I'm not saying i'd vote for him. But he doesn't give me the creeps like the thought of GWB. I still can't figure out how the hell GWB got re-elected, waitoh yeah, his opponent was John Kerry, that's why

[FairfieldLife] The Bush dynasty potential comeback?

2013-03-05 Thread seekliberation
I thought we were done with the Bush family once and for all. Looks like Jeb Bush might be trying for presidential run. :-( seekliberation http://todaynews.today.com/_news/2013/03/04/17179710-jeb-bush-i-wont-rule-out-2016-white-house-run-but-i-wont-declare-today?lite

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting article on atheism

2013-03-04 Thread seekliberation
belief system we have or don't have. It is automatic, no beliefs required for it to exist. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > A guy climbs to a mountaintop, looks out at the beauty > of creation, and realizes that none of it requi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Transcendental Meditation – becoming popular again

2013-03-03 Thread seekliberation
Times have changed. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > > > Or from "Twin Peaks": > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjKZzKLpNII > > :-) > > > On 03/03/2013

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bad news for blissninnies

2013-03-01 Thread seekliberation
s. Rather than trying to crush the opposition, I think we would be better off just discarding the negative qualities of each side and sticking with the positive traits of both POV's. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > I knew both Das and Fraw

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bad news for blissninnies

2013-03-01 Thread seekliberation
I think I replied to quickly to the same post. You pretty much stated the same thing I did regarding how materialistic incompetence is somehow looked at as a virtue. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bh

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bad news for blissninnies

2013-03-01 Thread seekliberation
is a sign of nothing more than studying the letter 'Z'. You still have the rest of the alphabet to work on. And until we learn the whole alphabet, guess where our soul is going after this cycle of birth and death? Nowhere but right back here. seekliberation --- In FairfieldL

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bad news for blissninnies

2013-03-01 Thread seekliberation
it's the pessimist who will percieve the need for action more so than the optimist. A lot of hippies and babyboomers are learning that painfully now. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > The pessimists you rag on will outlive you. > > htt

[FairfieldLife] Re: How to get health care in America...go to prison

2013-02-26 Thread seekliberation
r service. But then only wealthy people can afford it. To me, it's not just a health care issue, it's an attitude issue. If you're going to complain about high costs of health care AND complain about being taxed if universal health care is provided, then you are simply impossible to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is liberalism becoming anti-spirituality?

2013-02-25 Thread seekliberation
ng', which is contrary to most people's nature. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: > > hi seekliberation, I very much enjoyed reading this.  And though I don't > agree with all of it, I agree with your main point which I hope I got ri

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is liberalism becoming anti-spirituality?

2013-02-25 Thread seekliberation
e. > Perhaps the best thing to be is a humanitarian. Problem is, if being humanitarian became the goal, it would become the 'Humanitarian Movement' and it would turn into some sort of 'GroupThink' itself. And then before you know it, there would be no more humanitarianism. I hate this planet. seekliberation

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: This is the Video Obama Does Not Want you to See

2013-02-25 Thread seekliberation
ar president in the last 40+ years. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" wrote: > > > Thankfully, Yahoo doesn't want us to see it either. >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is liberalism becoming anti-spirituality?

2013-02-25 Thread seekliberation
he next, all depending on what suits their purpose. So, in essence, I can't really assign either ideology to the inner circles of the TMO. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > Great observation generally about the removal of moral yardstick.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is liberalism becoming anti-spirituality?

2013-02-25 Thread seekliberation
, social, or spiritual -- is not worth > paying any attention to whatsoever. > > On another level, you must not have spent much > time in California if you think it's a liberal > bastion. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seekliberation" > wrote: > &

[FairfieldLife] Is liberalism becoming anti-spirituality?

2013-02-25 Thread seekliberation
t type of liberal demographic is growing faster and is more publicly dominant in the media. Personally, this is not a direction I think is going to lead us anywhere more positive in terms of neither development of consciousness or materialism. It's weak on both ends of the spectrum. Any thoughts? seekliberation

[FairfieldLife] Re: Who cares about the Oscars?

2013-02-25 Thread seekliberation
I never cared about the Oscars either. It always looked to me like a bunch of rich people patting themselves on the back for how awesome they are. Maybe i'm just looking at it in a negative way? I just never cared for watching festivities among the narcissist hollywood crowd. seekliber

[FairfieldLife] Re: How reactivity defines attachment and lack of evolution

2013-02-23 Thread seekliberation
mpics. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > I saw a graphic today just after skimming FFL posts from the last couple > of days in Message View and being struck by how reactive (and *stuck* in > reactivity) many people are. It's as if they are so ego-b

[FairfieldLife] Re: US Forces Arrive in Niger

2013-02-22 Thread seekliberation
hing, we really won't get the support to go much further. Besides, with a Democrat in the white house, he'll only use other small units for operations there, not a mass of troops. This one's not leading to a 'Vietnam' style conflict. Now Iran, Syria, and Yemen? That c

[FairfieldLife] Re: US Forces Arrive in Niger

2013-02-22 Thread seekliberation
f you're voting Dem Vs. Republican, you're not voting against war. You're voting for the snake instead of the elephant. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > On 02/22/2013 07:38 AM, John wrote: > > How come we're involved in another

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dr. Ben Carson puts Obama in his place (finally).

2013-02-18 Thread seekliberation
tting pressure on congress to continue funding projects and organizations that put us in the situation we're in. Just as much our fault as his, IMO. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dr. Ben Carson puts Obama in his place (finally).

2013-02-18 Thread seekliberation
> should resist any effort made to make them pay for the banksters > gambling debts. > > On 02/18/2013 10:02 AM, seekliberation wrote: > > yes, I definitely get it. Although I think Jesse Ventura is a bit of a > > nutcase, I do agree with him when he publicly stated tha

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dr. Ben Carson puts Obama in his place (finally).

2013-02-18 Thread seekliberation
economic disaster. Others say the whole 16 Trillion dollar defecit is just a mirage and nothing to worry about. We'll find out in years to come. My gut instinct is that eventually a bubble will burst just like the housing marketbut what do I know? seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dr. Ben Carson puts Obama in his place (finally).

2013-02-18 Thread seekliberation
ht now Wall Street is running > it and we need to run Wall Street out of the universe. ;-) > > On 02/18/2013 08:03 AM, seekliberation wrote: > > I wouldn't go as far as saying Obama is 'nowhere' near the Bush level of > > incompetence. I will say, however,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dr. Ben Carson puts Obama in his place (finally).

2013-02-18 Thread seekliberation
heir own. Looking at a lot of history of both of them, they were both propped up by others for their political careers, rather than having some talent, skill, or reputation for success in some other field that helped them gain the popularity they needed to be in the spotlight. seeklibe

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dr. Ben Carson puts Obama in his place (finally).

2013-02-18 Thread seekliberation
e i've already expressed that he's been, for the most part, far in the positive side of that. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seekliberation" > wrote: > > > > I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dr. Ben Carson puts Obama in his place (finally).

2013-02-18 Thread seekliberation
improvement from BHO over GWB, only a little. The reason I see the comparison is that both represent what has become the icon of a typical 'modern-day American Male'. All talk, all reliance on connections and friends, all speech, all image, all reputation, but no real depth of characte

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dr. Ben Carson puts Obama in his place (finally).

2013-02-18 Thread seekliberation
America at its finest. All outward appearance, no substance. And this is all we look for in politicians these days, this is what we find attractive. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: > > OK, wgm4u, If you could make George W. Bush Presid

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question for the Indians on FFL

2013-02-11 Thread seekliberation
labeled as 'science'. It certainly didn't bother me then, and doesn't bother me now even if it is hindu. TM did change my life and is the primary instigator of my interest in spirituality. Without it, I would've had no interest in spirituality to begin with.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Rama,Krishna, Buddha are nothing

2013-02-05 Thread seekliberation
r some other similar condition. The only thing that breaks it down is when their illusions stop being supported. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > I think one of the signposts of the lack of oomph the TMO has is the fact > that after Oprah came o

[FairfieldLife] Re: Rama,Krishna, Buddha are nothing

2013-02-05 Thread seekliberation
aren't moral, and those who are moral aren't necessarily enlightened. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote: > Why is it that gurus and their students always seem to fall very short of > imagined ideals? Look at the lot of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Rama,Krishna, Buddha are nothing

2013-02-05 Thread seekliberation
rewed up cults and followers. In other words, it's not 'Pure Knowledge shattering on the hard rocks of ignorance', but perhaps its 'Followers of Pure teachings becoming unattractive and narcissistic megolamaniacs that nobody wants to listen to' that destroys th

[FairfieldLife] Re: hypercritical pittas

2013-02-03 Thread seekliberation
y there is some pent up frustration with the world, the United States, and the overall condition of human life that spurs arguments and contradictory replies on FFL. The only people I would say may have a Pitta imbalance would be those who have consistent angry rants. seekliberation --- I

[FairfieldLife] Women's dream finally comes true

2013-01-24 Thread seekliberation
Women are now officially fully liberated (minus the achievement of the presidency of the United States, which will eventually happen some day). Leon Panetta has made the decision to allow females to serve directly in the infantry on the front lines. This will eventually bleed into Green Beret

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary Clinton, a pathetic end to an empty skirt!

2013-01-24 Thread seekliberation
y. The decision to not send in Close Air Support or a FAST team is primarily Obama, not Hillary. I do agree with what Hillary said in terms of 'what difference does it make, let's learn from this and prevent it in the future'. The US Government has made much worse calls in

[FairfieldLife] Re: 20+ trillion debt when Obama leaves office!

2013-01-19 Thread seekliberation
over anything now. And the more we expend trying to fix problems throughout the world, the less we have to capacity to protect ourselves at home. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2013/01/interview-on-business-matte

[FairfieldLife] Re: 20+ trillion debt when Obama leaves office!

2013-01-18 Thread seekliberation
What's worse is that these characters are the most loved and most revered in our society today - Kim Kardashian, Paris Hilton, .50 Cent, Octomom, Honey Boo-Boo, Donald Trump. And as long as that is the direction that our society keeps moving in, I really don't know how you can have a positive outlook on the economy, or anything for that matter. seekliberation

[FairfieldLife] Re: 20+ trillion debt when Obama leaves office!

2013-01-17 Thread seekliberation
ave a lot of fun, get a lot of attention, and to put forth as little effort as possible in the process of achieving the first 3 objectives. As long as that ideal remains our concentration, manipulation of the economy will remain the norm, and there will be less and less substance as the basis of our economy. 16.4 Trillion in debt to a bank that refuses transparency, to me, does not yield a positive outlook at this time. I hope your positive outlook is true though. seekliberation

[FairfieldLife] Re: 20+ trillion debt when Obama leaves office!

2013-01-17 Thread seekliberation
seem to do a good job of informing us how far we can go in debt without crashing the system. Conspiracy theories point to the Federal Reserve as wanting us to borrow more in order to become permanently in debt to them. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend&quo

[FairfieldLife] Re: 20+ trillion debt when Obama leaves office!

2013-01-16 Thread seekliberation
e on welfare (excluding the mentally and physically disabled). The only difference to me is in the number of people screwed by their efforts. But the psychology and ideology are the exact same. I want 'stuff' and I don't want to sweat for it. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@

[FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment

2013-01-13 Thread seekliberation
't lived enough lives to acquire the qualities of the Anti-ego planets (specifically Saturn) in order to let go of the ego, or they haven't. If they haven't, then no amount of time spent focusing on enlightenment will yield enlightenment. It would be like someone who can&#x

[FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube

2013-01-12 Thread seekliberation
even be trusted to explain to us how to tie our shoes, let alone trust them to teach us how to develop our consciousness. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > This guy is whacked out - again, Marshy's energy - there have been and > con

[FairfieldLife] Re: No god required.....

2013-01-08 Thread seekliberation
rovide answers NOW. We just can't live our lives peacefully and admit that we just don't fucking know. So anyone who's even involved in this argument is simply projecting their ego. I think we could be thousands, hundreds of thousands, or even million

[FairfieldLife] Re: No god required.....

2013-01-08 Thread seekliberation
ecent discoveries in physics. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > > > > > > Why God Did Not Create the Universe. > There is a sound scientific explanation for the making of our > world—no gods required > By STEPHEN HAWKING

[FairfieldLife] Re: Portlandia season 3 tonight

2013-01-04 Thread seekliberation
damn right i'm a Portlandia fan! That show deserves an award, and Fred from SNL and Carrie Brownstein are awesome. I'm surprised that I don't know Carrie from any other showsshe would do great on SNL. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > For the "Portlandia" fans sea

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Hurt Community

2013-01-04 Thread seekliberation
The Transcendental Meditation technique is a simple, natural, effortless process practiced 15–20 minutes twice daily while sitting comfortably with eyes closed. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seekliberation" wrote: > > Maharishi University of Manage

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Hurt Community

2013-01-04 Thread seekliberation
Maharishi University of Management was founded in 1971 by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi to fulfill the highest ideals of education. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > Over 600 scientific research studies conducted during the past 35 years

[FairfieldLife] Re: How many stupid new laws does your state have today?

2013-01-02 Thread seekliberation
ad) and type Sandy Hook conspiracy or Aurora conspiracy. It's pretty bizarre some of the inconsistencies and coincidences they show. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > Depends on how you do your accounting. First off California has almost &

[FairfieldLife] Re: How many stupid new laws does your state have today?

2013-01-01 Thread seekliberation
disaster when I see one. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: > > I've been here 20 years and so far, so good! I don't know what the guy from > the eastern part of the state is complaining about - Their property taxes are

[FairfieldLife] Re: How many stupid new laws does your state have today?

2013-01-01 Thread seekliberation
e is, if they max out all their credit cards and stop paying their bills, they're screwed no matter what. A politician from east California was recently suggesting splitting the state in half. Apparently part of the state is getting sick of paying high taxes to cover everyone else'

[FairfieldLife] Re: How many stupid new laws does your state have today?

2013-01-01 Thread seekliberation
So basically, 28 billion is most likely California's annual budget deficit, but their total deficit is way higher. http://dailycaller.com/2012/09/04/report-california-state-debt-twice-that-of-new-york%E2%80%99s-more-than-greece/ http://www.calwatchdog.com/2012/12/10/ya-sure-you-betcha-wer

[FairfieldLife] Re: How many stupid new laws does your state have today?

2013-01-01 Thread seekliberation
ing people who try to leave by taxing their assets and business they take with them. Welcome to stage 2 of socialism. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > California has over 900. I think in order to make a new law you need to > do away with tw

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Guy walks into a bar (Was: What is the TMO's concept of 'Heaven on Earth'?)

2013-01-01 Thread seekliberation
ng program. The only solution would be to go around 3am, take a break, start again around 8am, then take a break again around 4 or 5, and start again around 7pm. I guess the city never accommodated that request. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mjackson74" wrote:

[FairfieldLife] A Guy walks into a bar (Was: What is the TMO's concept of 'Heaven on Earth'?)

2012-12-31 Thread seekliberation
orldwide. But we're not going to convince anyone to jump on our bandwagon just by arguing our point of view. We have to take a hard look at ourselves too. We're not as awesome as we like to think we are. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" w

[FairfieldLife] Re: What is the TMO's concept of 'Heaven on Earth'?

2012-12-29 Thread seekliberation
that going to heaven isn't as simple of a process as blindly following someone else's guidance or path. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung wrote: > > Seems to me that God ordains Kali Yuga as righteous. Don't see God cutting > it short. > &g

[FairfieldLife] Re: What is the TMO's concept of 'Heaven on Earth'?

2012-12-29 Thread seekliberation
they're not in Fairfield, and if so, not in the dome. And I don't believe it's a one way street on that either, that they abandoned the domes. In many cases people were banned from the domes from what i've heard. Besides, meditation isn't the only practice that dev

[FairfieldLife] Re: What is the TMO's concept of 'Heaven on Earth'?

2012-12-29 Thread seekliberation
Buck, I don't mean to be rude herebut i'm curious as to what your age is? seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > We have PROVEN EFFECTIVE work to do. > Over 600 scientific research studies conducted during the p

[FairfieldLife] Re: What is the TMO's concept of 'Heaven on Earth'?

2012-12-28 Thread seekliberation
oncept of HoE in the TMO is a paradigm that is based on limiting our experiences only to what we can already handle, which is very limited in terms of the full spectrum of life which our creator expects us to become accustomed to. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "B

[FairfieldLife] Re: What is the TMO's concept of 'Heaven on Earth'?

2012-12-28 Thread seekliberation
people who identify with spirituality would be the most disciplined, humble, and productive individuals. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > > "TMers never had that model to benefit from. Many of them > strove to *avoid* work whe

[FairfieldLife] Re: What is the TMO's concept of 'Heaven on Earth'?

2012-12-28 Thread seekliberation
te a project on time. So I think your description of HoE is pretty accurate. We would have to round up all the non-meditators and make them do all the Evil and ignorant activities that are beneath the holiness (but required to support them) of the TMO and all the meditators & siddhas

[FairfieldLife] Re: What is the TMO's concept of 'Heaven on Earth'?

2012-12-28 Thread seekliberation
I watched the video. As alwaysit's a rather vague and dreamy explanation of HoE, one which is not going to happen anytime soon. Perhaps in a few centuries, but more likely in the thousands of years. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"

[FairfieldLife] What is the TMO's concept of 'Heaven on Earth'?

2012-12-27 Thread seekliberation
nyone here have any experience in the TMO actually defining HOE? seekliberation

[FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity

2012-12-26 Thread seekliberation
1300's. He finished his bachelor's degree, but I don't know what he's doing for a living now. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > On 12/26/2012 10:43 AM, Ann wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhair

[FairfieldLife] Re: Moderators, pls. sanction this poster

2012-12-26 Thread seekliberation
will be lost. The divine perfection of Buck, the TMO, and MMY will not eliminate negativity for all of eternity if we waste any time. We must act now. Remove awoelflebater and seekliberation now. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" wrote: > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity

2012-12-26 Thread seekliberation
h to believe homosexuals are destroying humanity because that would be reeealy stooopid. I'm in 100% agreement with you on that one, IT WOULD be reeeally stpid. seekliberation > > http://www.disbeliefnet.com/article.php?page=the_deity_and_the_dinosaur > > > seekliberation

[FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity

2012-12-26 Thread seekliberation
, according to Vedic Science. Personally, I don't know of any of the 5 major world religions that don't have a derogatory attitude towards gays/lesbians. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > I am curious as to the TMO's position

[FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity

2012-12-26 Thread seekliberation
idea that homosexuality is a perversion and unnatural, but i'm also not stupid enough to think that homosexuals are destroying humanity at any faster of a rate than heterosexuals. Heterosexuals are more than capable of destroying humanity without any help from the homosexuals. see

[FairfieldLife] Re: Updated banking details, Paypal, and flying times for 21 December

2012-12-20 Thread seekliberation
Yes...we need Yogic Drill Instructors to walk up and down the meditation halls and square away these false practitioners. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > Oh come on now, these children should be urged to sit up and meditate from >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sthapatya Veda is just a Placebo Effect to seekliberation

2012-12-17 Thread seekliberation
n't give a rat's ass, as I think the simple-mindedness of Christianity slows down our spiritual growth and understanding. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seekliberation"

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sthapatya Veda is just a Placebo Effect to seekliberation

2012-12-17 Thread seekliberation
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: > > me too, seekliberation, 3 planets in the 9th, Sun, Merc, Venus with Merc and > Venus being exactly conjunct.  Merc is ruler of 9th and 12th and Venus is > ruler of 8th and 1st.  Ketu is in the first. You have ketu

[FairfieldLife] Re: John Kerry To Be Secretary of State

2012-12-16 Thread seekliberation
at, because North Korea, Burma, and Rwanda all make Saddam look like 'leader of the year'. It also makes sense why Colin Powell ditched the Republican party, given that they pretty much threw him under the bus. seekliberation

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sthapatya Veda is just a Placebo Effect

2012-12-16 Thread seekliberation
27;m going to save the world or my own sould if I just 'hurry up' or 'try harder'. But then again, I have 3 planets in the 9th house, and only 1 in the 8th, so that's probably why I lean that way, not because it's the absolute truth...which I also can't say I really know. seekliberation

[FairfieldLife] Re: John Kerry To Be Secretary of State

2012-12-16 Thread seekliberation
I find that quote rather hilarious, in the sense that for some odd reason people think Democrats are anti-war and Republicans are Pro-war. Both Dems and Reps are the same species wearing 2 different masks. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams&qu

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sthapatya Veda is just a Placebo Effect

2012-12-16 Thread seekliberation
that a 3rd grader can have that's going to make them graduate any sooner. I look at spirituality the same way. I'm engagedbut this thought or idea that if I try harder, have a greater sense of urgency, and by doing so i'll achieve greater spiritual heights, IMO it is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sthapatya Veda is just a Placebo Effect

2012-12-16 Thread seekliberation
. I think it's the same way with enlightenment. If you're a really young soul, whether or not you live in a Sthapatya Ved home is not going to make you or break you in terms of spiritual growth (IMO). You've still got the first 99% to complete. seekliberation > --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Voter Frustration Over Politicians

2012-12-15 Thread seekliberation
with retirement and the fact kids are growing less able to take care of elderly, i'm not counting on anyone taking care of meso I work a bit extra while i'm young enough not to be stressed over it. Not for materialistic obsession, just simply because I don't expect another person (or people) to figure it out for me. seekliberation >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Voter Frustration Over Politicians

2012-12-14 Thread seekliberation
e'd probably be living just like a 2nd or 3rd world country. seekliberation

[FairfieldLife] Re: Voter Frustration Over Politicians

2012-12-14 Thread seekliberation
to do much (no extravagant vacations, luxaries, etc..). I do know a few people who lived somewhat like that, and yes...their lives are much more free than mine in terms of daily schedule. They just have to live with other inconveniences. seekliberation

[FairfieldLife] Re: Voter Frustration Over Politicians

2012-12-14 Thread seekliberation
Bad combination for a long-lasting nation and economy. Our solution isn't in terms of economic policy or government decisions, it is in terms of improving our state of mind. I remember seeing a youtube video of Oliver Stone where he claims America has become a 'sick' country.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Voter Frustration Over Politicians

2012-12-14 Thread seekliberation
-distribute work too. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > So you go to a TM potluck. There are 12 people at the potluck including > yourself. There is a pie cut into 12 equal pieces. One of the people > is a Raja and decrees that he gets 11 pieces

[FairfieldLife] Re: 12-12-2012

2012-12-09 Thread seekliberation
ury, and just another difficult time in terms of astrology.not the first nor the last. I think the end of the world frightens modern new-agers less than the thought that they aren't the most special people in the world who are going to save humanity for eternity. seekliberation --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Heaven on Earth

2012-12-06 Thread seekliberation
. Best wishes to you though.your enthusiasm is admirable. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > With Heaven on Earth, INVINCIBILITY will be the national characteristic of > every nation, victory before war will be enjoyed by every nation.

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