[FairfieldLife] "There is no God"

2017-09-08 Thread yifux...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
4 min lecture by OSHO: "There is no God" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31WdaBusl2Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31WdaBusl2Q Jai Sakyamuni Buddha

[FairfieldLife] Re: Throne of God experience

2017-07-10 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
“If the Batgap people are so great, I hereby challenge ANY of them to..” Some real Enlightened on Batgap are not necessarily just going to come with flash and carnival tricks to sell you. In the old days some meditators were challenging Walter Koch asking if he was Enlightened. He

[FairfieldLife] Trump chosen by God??

2016-11-09 Thread he...@hotmail.com [FairfieldLife]
Trump Chosen by God To Stop America's Destruction - Astounding 2011 Prophecy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqwFWD_Htfo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqwFWD_Htfo Trump Chosen by God To Stop America's Destruction -... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqwFWD_Htfo Rick Wiles

[FairfieldLife] Hillary, gimmel, dalet (god, gad) :D

2016-08-13 Thread he...@hotmail.com [FairfieldLife]
https://youtu.be/ptaDx3678FU?t=35s https://youtu.be/ptaDx3678FU?t=35s

[FairfieldLife] Classic Experience of God Consciousness as discribed by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi in his Seven States of Consciuosness talk

2016-06-21 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Too bad they didn't understand it. Does any of the other stuff sound familiar?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Y8cPUZs_ZA | | | | || | | | || Austrailian finds Jesus After 28 Years of Searching for God via Hinduism See how a man found Jesus after studying Hinduism

[FairfieldLife] Re: Aquinas on God

2016-04-13 Thread emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
H."Am I sure?" Pretty sure...but a good question to ask, yes? Here's something funny. The day before you posted the reply that includes the sentence below, I read the following sentence and said to myself, "I must look up this word "noumenal." (Yes, I'd say I'm a beginner in a lot

[FairfieldLife] Re: Aquinas on God

2016-04-13 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Re "The Buddhist idea of Dependent Co-Arising, which is a philosophy that would allow for the concept of infinite regression to exist": Intriguing suggestion. Never thought of that. You sure you're a novice? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : These Crash

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Impossible God

2016-04-13 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I enjoyed that. I particularly liked: "Therefore, to argue that God exists is to deny him." That's the kind of paradoxical language that drives these new atheists up the wall. Is it gobbledygook? In a way it is. But it's gobbledygook at a higher, more suggestive level than the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Aquinas on God

2016-04-12 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Judy, I personally liked to use the Kalaam Cosmological Argument (KCA) when discussing this topic. I enjoyed debating this topic with our former members, like Curtis and Xeno. But they seemed to skip a thought in making their position, or gloss over a counter point, which convinced me

[FairfieldLife] Re: Aquinas on God

2016-04-12 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Emily, When the so-called atheists, like Xeno and Curtis, were members here in this forum, I used the Kalaam Cosmological to argue the position of theism. Kalam cosmological argument - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalam_cosmological_argument Kalam

[FairfieldLife] Re: Aquinas on God

2016-04-12 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
The apparent weaknesses in the arguments of Aquinas is probably the reason why MMY decided to explain existence in holistic terms, such as the rishi-devata-chandas relationship within the Unified Field. Dr. Tony Nader gave a lecture at Stanford on this subject about a year ago, which is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Aquinas on God

2016-04-11 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Be aware that "first cause" in Aquinas's thinking doesn't mean *temporal* first cause but *ontological* first cause. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : The Cosmological arguments of Aquinas. Also discusses flaws and counterarguments. Aquinas basically

[FairfieldLife] Re: Aquinas on God

2016-04-11 Thread emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
These Crash Courses are good at instructing the ignorant masses. At about 8:15 in, he states that Aquinas takes it as a given that everything must have a cause other than itself, and that therefore, his argument of God as "first cause" is self-defeating because why wouldn't "God" have to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Love and God by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2014-12-22 Thread seerd...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Turquoise, I am all for exploring outside the box. Though, of course, simple being outside the box, by it self, does not make something useful and valid. Perhaps nine of ten, or 99 out of 100 things outside the box are dross and dead-ends. But finding that one thing can I would hope, make

[FairfieldLife] Re: Love and God by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2014-12-14 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Anyone got anything positive to say about this book? I did read it but found it rather dreary. It fails as poetry and it fails as mystical literature. Am I missing something? I remember liking it when I heard Marshy's recital

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Love and God by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2014-12-14 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Anyone got anything positive to say about this book? I did read it but found it rather dreary. It fails as poetry and it fails as mystical literature. Am I missing something? I remember liking

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Love and God by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2014-12-14 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Ooops. Damned computer sent it before I finished my last comment... From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2014 10:23 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Love and God by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2014-12-14 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2014 4:41 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Love and God by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi   Ooops. Damned computer sent it before I finished my last comment... From

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Love and God by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2014-12-14 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2014 11:21 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Love and God by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi   Exactly. At its

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Love and God by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2014-12-14 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com   From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com Will there be any heavy metal in the Age of Enlightenment? What sort of Heaven on Earth would it be without my Judas Priest and Motorhead albums? I'm pretty sure

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Love and God by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2014-12-14 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Here, Rick Stanley adds some genuine feeling to Maharishi's words. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7tEPXhfDnQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7tEPXhfDnQ Blimey, TM videos are weird, what are all those people sitting in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Love and God by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2014-12-13 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
My understanding is that both SOBAL and the Bhagavad Gita Commentary were MMY's recorded words, perhaps tidied up a bit for written form. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Anyone got anything positive to say about this book? I did read it but found it rather

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-25 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 10/24/2014 7:40 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Richard, you want something silly? I give you something silly. Barry is having a near panic attack, pleading, insisting that someone explain to him the importance of the experience of unbounded awareness. I guess he's

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-25 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
well, it's also as you said previously, Richard, experiencing unbounded awareness is pretty much its own verification. I remember, as an aside, someone asking Maharishi, (this was on a tape), why is the experience of unbounded awareness blissful. His response was that, that is its nature.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-24 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
/It was intersting to see how Xeno tried to enable Barry, by leaving out of the discussion all the interesting stuff Barry believes in - like karma and reincarnation. / // On 10/23/2014 10:21 PM, anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I do not have time to read

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-24 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
/Xeno didn't even recognize the dissonance in Barry's preference for Bruce Cockburn songs. Everyone knows Cockburn is a born-again Christian. What about Barry's claim that a belief in God is a form of mental illness. / // On 10/24/2014 12:03 AM, blue_bungalo...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-24 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
This sounds like a pretzeling moment ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : Xeno didn't even recognize the dissonance in Barry's preference for Bruce Cockburn songs. Everyone knows Cockburn is a born-again Christian. What about Barry's claim that a belief in God

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-24 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 10/24/2014 8:44 AM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: This sounds like a pretzeling moment /It seems dirt simple to me. We are all bound by karma, which means actions, past and present. If a person does good deeds, he or she will be reborn in a better life. ///On the other

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-24 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Xeno, me too! During some of my early meditations, I just wanted to jump up and run out of the room. But I just knew that it was what I had been wanting, just as I knew I was gonna start TM even before the lecturers said anything. In retrospect it seems like an amazing time in my life. I'll

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-24 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:  From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 12:04 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-24 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Richard, you want something silly? I give you something silly. Barry is having a near panic attack, pleading, insisting that someone explain to him the importance of the experience of unbounded awareness. I guess he's got a turd he wants to drop on that or something. But, here. Get

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-23 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com From: anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com The question for 'spiritually'

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-23 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com From: anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-23 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 12:04 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness Well said Barry

[FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-23 Thread blue_bungalo...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... Well said Barry - and I agree with every word --- turquoiseb@... wrote : It's NOT that I'm saying that seeking spiritual experiences ISN'T valuable. I'm just pointing out that almost no one in history has ever stepped up to the plate and made an

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-23 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 12:04 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness   Well said Barry - and I agree with every word It's

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-23 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 10/23/2014 3:33 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: ** For me as time went on such experiences tended to damp out, everything kind of flattened out, until one day on a walk there was this shift in which the world, as it always had been, was identical with what I had

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-23 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
?/ *From:* TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, October 23, 2014 4:33 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness *From:* Xenophaneros

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-23 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
Well said Barry - and I agree with every word On 10/23/2014 5:59 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: It's NOT that I'm saying that seeking spiritual experiences ISN'T valuable. I'm just pointing out that almost no one in history has ever stepped up to the plate

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-23 Thread inmadi...@hotmail.com [FairfieldLife]
You are very good at quoting scripture and contents of text books (and there is a value to that), but when you look to the honesty of your moment to moment experience - What do you find? Put aside traditions and ancient wisdom - they are not relevant today - today its What are you bringing to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-23 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: *From:* Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, October 23, 2014 12:04 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-23 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 10/23/2014 9:02 AM, inmadi...@hotmail.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: You are very good at quoting scripture and contents of text books (and there is a value to that), but when you look to the honesty of your moment to moment experience - What do you find? /Teachers and textbooks are like

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-23 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:  From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 12:04 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-23 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Richard, I also appreciate Maharishi's distinction between and enlightened person and an enlightened teacher. The person maybe popped into enlightenment while eating a strawberry. So then he or she teaches the strawberry eating technique. OTOH, an enlightened teacher has such a perspective

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-23 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 8:33 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com From: TurquoiseBee turquoi

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-23 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, October 23, 2014 12:04 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness Well said Barry - and I agree with every word It's

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-23 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness   Well said Barry - and I agree with every word It's NOT that I'm saying that seeking spiritual experiences ISN'T valuable. I'm just pointing out that almost no one in history has ever stepped up

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-23 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 4:34 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness I think you

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-23 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 10/23/2014 10:36 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Two travelers are on a road, looking for Ixtlan. They ask a passing bird for directions. He gives them, then flies off. Do the travelers go in the direction he pointed them to, or not? Whatever their choice, do

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-23 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 8:33 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-23 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
, I'm smart enough, and, doggonit, people like me! From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 8:33 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-23 Thread anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Like you Share, I really did not pay attention to the selling points as I had had experiences prior to TM, I was just looking for an easy way to meditate, a natural consequence of being lazy. The sell was there in the introductory and preparatory lectures and in available chart books

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-23 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 12:04 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness Well said Barry - and I agree with every word It's NOT that I'm saying that seeking spiritual experiences ISN'T valuable. I'm just pointing out that almost

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-23 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
A slight nit: in the 40 years that Benson has been publishing his book he never, not even once, published a head-to-head study of TM vs his Relaxation Response. In fact, the criticisms that were leveled against Keith Wallace's first study apply equally well to Benson's research. And

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-23 Thread nablusoss1008
Funny you mention this word. When a journalist in Vlodrop asked who are you really Maharishi, he simply said; I'm just a normal human being. Whereupon Bevan afterwards remarked; today we got a new understanding of what it means to be normal :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-23 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 10/23/2014 11:37 AM, curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: That was a great read, thanks! /It was intersting to see how Xeno tried to enable Barry, by leaving out of the discussion all the interesting stuff Barry believes in - like karma and reincarnation. // // //What

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-23 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
It is the closest word I can think of, that describes a life of enlightenment, normal. :-). ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Funny you mention this word. When a journalist in Vlodrop asked who are you really Maharishi, he simply said; I'm just a normal

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-23 Thread anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 10/23/2014 11:37 AM, curtisdeltablues@... mailto:curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: That was a great read, thanks! It was intersting to see how Xeno tried to enable Barry, by leaving out of the discussion all

[FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-23 Thread blue_bungalo...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
--- punditster@... wrote : It was intersting to see how Xeno tried to enable Barry, by leaving out of the discussion all the interesting stuff Barry believes in - like karma and reincarnation. What happened - I thought you guys all read Sam Harris' book. Go figure. Xeno didn't even

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-22 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
There are many non-physical phenomena that on one hand, cannot be proven, by physical means. On the other hand, if we take them out of the equation of life, life then makes less sense, and becomes less enjoyable. An example would be the love between a child, and its mother or father, or love

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-22 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
So, you must be a man of deep capacity to be able to hold within your appreciation myself and someone as different as I am in the form of bawee. Maybe one day I'll get there too. Something to point out, about Curtis, Ann -- Rather than an expression of his social flexibility and capacity to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-22 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : There are many non-physical phenomena that on one hand, cannot be proven, by physical means. On the other hand, if we take them out of the equation of life, life then makes less sense, and becomes less enjoyable. An

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-22 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 6:56 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness As to the first question, mental illness perhaps results from

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-22 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 6:56 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-22 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com As to the first question, mental illness perhaps results from atypical wiring and growth of the brain, causes not

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-22 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com See what I mean about religion being a form of mental illness? Here you have a person who chooses to excuse her stalking behavior and obsession on one particular person she hates

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-22 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Well, before I started moving Ann's messages to the Deranged Stalkers From Hell folder, I seem to remember her being the person who claimed to know for sure that nothing bad had happened

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-22 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 6:56 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness As to the first question

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-22 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 6:56 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness As to the first question, mental illness perhaps results from atypical wiring and growth of the brain, causes not necessarily known. Mental illness is not considered a contagious

[FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-22 Thread anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
You never really began to debate. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Xeno, Thank you for your ideas. I believe we've exhausted this debate. There is no point to continue. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : ---In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-22 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 10/21/2014 9:49 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Yeah, I've seen $cientologists like this in action, and for the life of me can't tell any difference between them and Richard, Ann, Jimbo, and She Whose Holy Work They Are Continuing In Her Absence. Uber-cultists, the whole

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-22 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : That's a nice piece Ann. I feel as though I have a pretty good idea of the real person behind people's online persona. I think you might be referring to Barry in some of what you say here. I've had a changing

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-22 Thread anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
@... wrote : From: anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 6:56 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness As to the first question, mental illness perhaps results

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-22 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : *From:* anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, October 22, 2014 6:56 AM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness As to the first question

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-22 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : So, you must be a man of deep capacity to be able to hold within your appreciation myself and someone as different as I am in the form of bawee. Maybe one day I'll get there too. Something to point out, about Curtis,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-22 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 10/22/2014 6:47 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: *From:* salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : ** Well, before I started moving Ann's messages to the Deranged Stalkers From Hell folder, /It looks like

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-22 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 6:56 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-22 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
See what I mean about religion being a form of mental illness? Here you have a person who chooses to excuse her stalking behavior and obsession on one particular person she hates by claiming it's her religious duty to act like this. This religious fanatic not only admits to being a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-22 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness As to the first question, mental illness perhaps results from atypical wiring and growth of the brain, causes not necessarily known. Mental illness is not considered a contagious disease. So contrary to the title Barry

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-22 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : There are many non-physical phenomena that on one hand, cannot be proven, by physical means. On the other hand, if we take them out of the equation of life, life then makes less sense, and becomes less enjoyable. An

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-22 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 10/21/2014 12:54 PM, curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I enjoyed your response till you went its all about Barry on my ass Richard. /So, you don't want to talk about Barry and Sam Harris and their belief in Buddhas, karma and reincarnation. Go figure./ I am not on

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-22 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Barry, what the hell are you saying? Tell me it's not the same 'ol diatribe. Maybe I'll have time to read it later. How many posts have you written denigrating the place here, and it's participants, every hour, every day, letting us know what a waste of time it is for your to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-22 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 6:56 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness As to the first question, mental illness perhaps

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-22 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Ann, it appears that agreement with Barry, trumps any kind of rational thinking with sal. go figger! Yes, but kindness is my goal today (although I always find it easy to be kind to my animals) so I will hold off

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-22 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
okay, good goal Ann, but your normal style of functioning. It's just when we see something that seems out of whack, we comment on it. To Barry that's being obsessed, or stalking. He, of course is beyond most, if not all, human foibles. A model of unattachment. A button pusher on

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-22 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : okay, good goal Ann, but your normal style of functioning. It's just when we see something that seems out of whack, we comment on it. To Barry that's being obsessed, or stalking. He, of course is beyond most, if not

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-22 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 6:56 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-22 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
who did you say was channeling Judy, sal? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Well, before I started moving Ann's messages to the Deranged Stalkers From Hell

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-22 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 10/22/2014 5:36 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: *From:* salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : *From:* anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com As to the first question, mental illness

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-22 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 3:17 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness The human species lack of hard wiring makes us more flexible

[FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-22 Thread inmadi...@hotmail.com [FairfieldLife]
I've been around FFL a while, but don't post often as conversations quickly become too personal (I don't know folks by their given names) - and although I can wade thru muck and mire, way too much bandwidth is used up on folks dealing with their own emotions. and I can't figure out the forum

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-22 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I'm sure Ann appreciates your straightening her out about me Jim. She was making the mistake of trusting her own impression, but now has the enlightened perspective from you on my dark motives and inner thoughts. At first I wondered how you could know about my inner feelings or whether or not

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-22 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Hi, and thanks for that - Yeah, I just wanted to point out who is the hand, and who is the sock monkey, in that equation. Have a great day! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : So, you must

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-22 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Richard, it occurs to me that the only thing we can know for sure is that awareness exists. And that's because we're aware. But maybe I'm over simplifying (-: On Tuesday, October 21, 2014 4:02 PM, 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-22 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I have no problem with your friendship with Ann - As she responded, she suspects some of what I said is accurate, but doesn't let that deter a friendship with you. I don't play the chimp's games, and you, like the chimp, seem to have a difficult time reconciling, one the one hand, denying that

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-22 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : I have no problem with your friendship with Ann - As she responded, she suspects some of what I said is accurate, M: That would require her to believe that you know my feelings when reading posts or whether or not I even

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-22 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Just to be clear, at no time have I said I was in the highest state of human development. The way I learned it, according to Maharishi, was that enlightenment meant simply, normal, and everything continues from there, as it always has. Draw your own conclusions. ---In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-22 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 2:37 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-21 Thread salyavin808
boundary possibilities then so be it. The urge to know is there in me. From: curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 12:12 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-21 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
torment in Hell. Some friend. :-) From: curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 12:12 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

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