--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain wrote:
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> > > Thanks for your responses. Its good to get some push back.
> > >
> > > However, I thi
Thanks for your responses. Its good to get some push back.
However, I think we still have different views on the crucial role of
Imperialsm and Education. You response sites two specifics to make a
generalization about very broad "initiatives".
Nanking was horrible. So was Dresden, the compl
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex" wrote:
I certainly don't have an more insight than you do concerning these complex
matters Richard. Obama said something early in his presidency that I can only
paraphrase but it was something like: the truth is not as bad as the detractors
say
Curtis:
> I don't see a conspiracy.
>
Neither do I - and I've seen no convincing evidence that
would lead me to think that Bush 'lied' about the reasons
to go to war in Iraq.
Judy and Bhairitu seem to see conspiracies when there
isn't the slightest reason to think that anyone was not
telling
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain wrote:
> The one thing that is not variable is education. Raise the world's (and tea
> partyers) level of education and wars will not happen. Or be far less.
I am a believer in education but I can't go this far. One of the myths about
terroris
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain wrote:
> Would Japanese being spoken all over Asia be worse than English, French and
> Dutch being spoken all over Asia. One form of imperialism is not much better
> than another form of imperialism. At least the Japanese were intent on
> kickin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain wrote:
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
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> > > In the context of our involvement in Afghanistan it has quite of bit of
> > > validit
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex" wrote:
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> I was never for the war Richard. Even with Saddham's fantasy WMDs. And I get
> it that plenty of people are smarter than I am but that doesn't make them
> right o
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> > In the context of our involvement in Afghanistan it has quite of bit of
> > validity.
>
> Polite but firm challenge.
>
I am probably using a mistaken understan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex" wrote:
I was never for the war Richard. Even with Saddham's fantasy WMDs. And I get
it that plenty of people are smarter than I am but that doesn't make them right
or so agenda driven that they couldn't do a really stupid thing or even an
immor
Vaj:
> > Maybe so, but almost everyone thought Saddam had WMD and
> > would use them.
> >
Judy:
> "Almost everyone" was deliberately misled by Bush and Cheney,
> who pretended the evidence was much more conclusive and
> certain than it actually was.
>
"On Nov. 20, the Tribune began an inquest: W
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> "Almost everyone" was deliberately misled by Bush and Cheney,
> who pretended the evidence was much more conclusive and
> certain than it actually was.
How the wisdom of "You break it you bought it" got drowned out is one of our
gener
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" wrote:
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> > You might think it's impossible to prove either way with
> > earthquakes, I don't think so, it's getting easier to
> > predict the next one as stress appears to move along fa
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex" wrote:
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> Curtis:
> > Going into Iraq was a stupid idea from what was known IMO...
> >
> Maybe so, but almost everyone thought Saddam had WMD and would
> use them.
"Almost everyone" was deliberately misled by Bush and Cheney,
who pretended the e
> > We just don't know what it is we're trying to measure or
> > how to go about it.
> >
Curtis:
> Going into Iraq was a stupid idea from what was known IMO...
>
Maybe so, but almost everyone thought Saddam had WMD and would
use them. We didn't know for sure until after the invasion of
Iraq th
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
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> > We just don't know what it is we're trying to measure
> > or how to go about it.
>
>
> If Chopra and the Maharishis of the world would admit this I would have
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
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> > "There are known knowns. These are things we know that
> > we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say, there
> > are things that we now know we don't know.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" wrote:
> You might think it's impossible to prove either way with
> earthquakes, I don't think so, it's getting easier to
> predict the next one as stress appears to move along fault
> lines. If we have a group of meditators where a quake is
> predict
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" wrote:
> Trouble is Maharishi has introduced a new category called
> the unknown knowns whereby things that we don't know anything
> about are considered true.
Point of the week! If I had read this first I wouldn't have bothered to write
all my dri
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" wrote:
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> > "There are known knowns. These are things we know that
> > we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say, there
> > are things that we now know we don't know. But there are
> > also unknown unknowns. These are things we d
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> We just don't know what it is we're trying to measure
> or how to go about it.
If Chopra and the Maharishis of the world would admit this I would have no
problem with them. Their claim is that they DO know. In some cases they are
c
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" wrote:
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroup
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> > > > BREAKING NEWS: You don't have to share a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote:
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> On Apr 7, 2010, at 9:33 AM, tartbrain wrote:
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> > Continuing on this woo woo ray tangent (I am generally quite rational and
> > skeptical), in these universal love states i can sense the personality of
> > trees and plants. Quite
On Apr 7, 2010, at 1:06 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
> So unless you are proposing that the mechanism of what
> affects the world is some new thing
If it affects the world, *of course* it's some new thing.
>>>
>>> You and Chopra, masters of the innuendo.
>>
>> Huh?? Innuendo of
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> > >
> > > > But y
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> > wrote:
> I call you on every personal slight just to underline
> your style of conversation here.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> wrote:
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> > -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> >
> > > But you and Curtis are countering it with an "argument
> > > from personal incredulity" as
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> wrote:
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
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> > > > > Here you are huffing and puffing, and he's chortling.
> > > >
> > > > My opinions are "
On Apr 7, 2010, at 9:33 AM, tartbrain wrote:
> Continuing on this woo woo ray tangent (I am generally quite rational and
> skeptical), in these universal love states i can sense the personality of
> trees and plants. Quite distinct entities. And my love for them seems felt --
> and they seem re
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
wrote:
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> -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
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> > But you and Curtis are countering it with an "argument
> > from personal incredulity" as to whether such a "new
> > thing" is possible, so I figure we're even.
>
>
Thanks for the reply. More later. But I do classify such experiences in the
realm of poetry and art. its like is a simile -- like that -- not a metaphor
(is that). But I am open to the possibility that it is metaphor. (sorry if I
hosed the use of these words, simile an metaphor)
--- In Fairfie
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> > > > Here you are huffing and puffing, and he's chortling.
> > >
> > > My opinions are "huffing and puffing?" What an odd
> > > characterization.
> >
> > Oh, I do
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain wrote:
> Continuing on this woo woo ray tangent (I am generally quite rational and
> skeptical), in these universal love states i can sense the personality of
> trees and plants. Quite distinct entities. And my love for them seems felt --
> and t
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" wrote:
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
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> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> > > wrote:
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> > > >
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > > Do you share thi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> > wrote:
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>
> > > Do you share this belief about yourself,is that why you
> > > are so quick to defend
-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> But you and Curtis are countering it with an "argument
> from personal incredulity" as to whether such a "new
> thing" is possible, so I figure we're even.
This mischaractorization would have worked better if you had not already
concede
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
>
snip
> > > > > > true beliefs. He almost sounds like he has some common
> > > > > > sense about the limits of his personal power.
> > > > >
> > > > > Actually, I think he was mocking people like you, Curtis,
> > > > > right down to your
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> > wrote:
>
> > > Do you share this belief about yourself,is that why you
> > > are so quick to defend him?
> >
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> wrote:
> > Do you share this belief about yourself,is that why you
> > are so quick to defend him?
>
> BREAKING NEWS: You don't have to share a person's beliefs
> to defe
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- I
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > the en
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> > wrote:
> > > the environment. It is a way to mask the hubris of his
> > > true beliefs. He almos
Deepak believes he is non local (loco?) and fancies himself enlightened, so I'm
sure he honestly thought that right after his meditation, the earthquake
happened, he was the cause because he is all. At least he didn't say "something
good is happening"
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
wrote:
>
[snip]
> it is hubris to believe that your state of mind affects
> the world.
[snip]
Huh?
My state of mind goes "I don't get that, I'll post my
puzzlement";
The world changes. Myriads of bits and bytes flip, flop,
dance
Curtis:
> I paid $700 in his doctor's office to get the
> magic word "amrita" to repeat to cure physical
> conditions...
>
So, how much money do you estimate that have you
paid out to various cult leaders since you were
eighteen? $10,000?
Barry says he gave the Maharishi over $5,000 just
to
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> wrote:
> >
> > -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote:
> > >
> > > http://www.aolnews.com/nation/article/chopra-blames-own-meditation-for-baja-
> > > quake/
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
wrote:
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> -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote:
> >
> > http://www.aolnews.com/nation/article/chopra-blames-own-meditation-for-baja-
> > quake/19426755?sms_ss=email
> >
> > Chopra Blames Own Meditation for Baja Quake
-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote:
>
> http://www.aolnews.com/nation/article/chopra-blames-own-meditation-for-baja-
> quake/19426755?sms_ss=email
> _
>
>
> Chopra Blames Own Meditation for Baja Quake
This is part of his game. He makes it seem as if he is mocking
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote:
>
> http://www.aolnews.com/nation/article/chopra-blames-own-meditation-for-baja-
> quake/19426755?sms_ss=email
> _
>
>
> Chopra Blames Own Meditation for Baja Quake
Sorry Haiti, Turkey, Chile and Baja. Your pain and suffering
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