[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-22 Thread Jason
      Socialist forces in India prevented automation in industries and mechanisation in agriculture.   Everything became labor intensive. --- On Tue, 3/9/10, ShempMcGurk wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ? Date

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-13 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain wrote: > > > Plus, its my observation, that people are far less likely > > to change their minds, is sustained and deeps ways, if > > you simple challenge their beliefs. They may indee

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-13 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain wrote: > Plus, its my observation, that people are far less likely > to change their minds, is sustained and deeps ways, if > you simple challenge their beliefs. They may indeed dig > in deeper not that their egos are involved. It is often > more pr

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-13 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > The reason it is wrong to persecute gay people has nothing to do with the > scripture. The reason people practice hospitality and charity has nothing to > do with the scripture. These are values we hold as a society or at

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > What blew my mind in the latest CORRECTORFAIL > attempting yet again to make herself look smart > by trying to make someone else look stupid is the > trotting out of the term "antireligionists." Other > than a *very* few very vocal ath

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > I'm just wondering if this disapproval of mocking religious > claims extends to TV cartoon satires cuz that would pretty > much knock out my favorite shows on Sunday night, the > Simpsons and the Family Guy. Are they really funn

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , "mainstream20016" wrote: > When you return, you might apologize to Curtis. His writing > isn't a crock, yet you are full of _ _ i t, the discomfort > of which perhaps drives you to create unfounded citations of > defic

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > wrote: > > > > > But it did demonstrate one of my main points (thanks Sam > > > Harris) which is t

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-12 Thread WillyTex
> > Anyone who believes things like that should be > > silenced, put away, or punished. > > Curtis: > I thought we were beyond this inflammatory bullshit > So, you post messages questioning everyone's personal, religious beliefs, mock their spiritual path, and their holy texts, and judge them

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-12 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Joe" wrote: I'm just wondering if this disapproval of mocking religious claims extends to TV cartoon satires cuz that would pretty much knock out my favorite shows on Sunday night, the Simpsons and the Family Guy. I have a feeling this is a Curtis-only po

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-12 Thread mainstream20016
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > This is a crock, and Curtis knows it's a crock. > > > He doesn't agree with my position, but yesterday he made > it clear that he understood what it was. > > Today he egregiously and quite deliberately misrepresents > it. > > Th

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-12 Thread Joe
Yessiree Tex, you nailed it. Things are exactly as you say. Damn Tex, how did you get to be so doggone brilliant? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex" wrote: >> > > > ...don't you just hate those stupid believers! > > > > Joe: > > ...the hate is mostly reserved for Texas trolls > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-12 Thread mainstream20016
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > This is a crock, and Curtis knows it's a crock. > > He doesn't agree with my position, but yesterday he made > it clear that he understood what it was. > > Today he egregiously and quite deliberately misrepresents > it. > > T

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-12 Thread Joe
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > > But it did demonstrate one of my main points (thanks Sam > > Harris) which is that religious ideas are held in a > > protected class. They are shielded by peop

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-12 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > > But it did demonstrate one of my main points (thanks Sam > > Harris) which is that religious ideas are held in a > > protected class. They are shielded by people

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-12 Thread WillyTex
> > ...don't you just hate those stupid believers! > > Joe: > ...the hate is mostly reserved for Texas trolls > So, we are in agreement: you just hate those stupid believers, mostly the Texas trolls, and the Jews, the Christians, Hindus, Muslims and Buddhists! > > Don't you just hate thos

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-12 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: I think this post illustrates what I like about our discussion on this topic. A chance to separate the different choices we have made concerning religious beliefs. I don't have a problem with the choices you have made. That doesn't se

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > But it did demonstrate one of my main points (thanks Sam > Harris) which is that religious ideas are held in a > protected class. They are shielded by people who don't > believe in them as if the people who believe them are > deli

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-12 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > > > I had a good run with this topic so I really can't complain. > > > Too bad I can't prove that Barry wrote the Bible! > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogr

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > wrote: > > > > > If you have decided that some scriptures are not the holy > > > word of God, and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-12 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > > > > > I had a good run with this topic so I really can't complain. > > > Too bad I can't prove that Barry wrote the Bible! > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoog

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-12 Thread curtisdeltablues
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > I had a good run with this topic so I really can't complain. > > Too bad I can't prove that Barry wrote the Bible! > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > If you could do that I'm pretty sure everyone > here

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-11 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Joe" wrote: > > > > Judy get off her high horse??? Never going to happen > > Curtis my man. But I admire your continued effort to > > have discourse with her being WAAY up there and you

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-11 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Joe" wrote: > > > Judy get off her high horse??? Never going to happen Curtis my man. But I > admire your continued effort to have discourse with her being WAAY up there > and you being a lowly blues singer and all... I had a good run with this topic so I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-11 Thread Joe
Judy get off her high horse??? Never going to happen Curtis my man. But I admire your continued effort to have discourse with her being WAAY up there and you being a lowly blues singer and all... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogro

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-11 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > > If you have decided that some scriptures are not the holy > > word of God, and therefore, the ideas in that book should > > be treated like any other human ideas

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-11 Thread Joe
Nah, the hate is mostly reserved for Texas trolls with too much time on their hands --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex" wrote: > > > No, I'm talking about the order of business > > > for people who are motivated to do something > > > about the suffering and oppression in the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-11 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > If you have decided that some scriptures are not the holy > word of God, and therefore, the ideas in that book should > be treated like any other human ideas, then you share my > exact feelings about the Hindu scriptures. People

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-11 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex" wrote: > Why are these people allowed to think like that? > > Anyone who believes things like that should be > silenced, put away, or punished. I thought we were beyond this inflammatory bullshit Richard. I will respond this way. Do you bel

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-11 Thread WillyTex
> > No, I'm talking about the order of business > > for people who are motivated to do something > > about the suffering and oppression in the > > world... > > Curtis: > I believe in arguing against the whole concept > of "scriptures." > Don't you just hate those religous people, like

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-11 Thread curtisdeltablues
> wrote: snip > > > Since I don't portray everyone who shares a specific > > religious heritage as bad guys it doesn't apply to me. > > But I can think that they are wrong about what they are > > asserting or that there is little evidence for fantastic > > claims. And that the people who make

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-11 Thread WillyTex
> > Is this what it's like in good 'ole US of A? > > Sal: > ...she has gone from being a nominal Democrat > to being intolerant of *everything* to the left > of Mein Kampf. > Don't you just hate that liar Obama when he goes to his Christian church and gets down on his knees to pray to his da

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-11 Thread WillyTex
Curtis: > It is still taboo here to go after a politician's > religion even though it is only recently that Mormons > gave up a doctrinal commitment to racism... > Don't you just hate those Mormons! "It astounds me that any intelligent adult human being could buy the secret handshake thing -

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-11 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote: > Can you spell "yagya," Curtis? :) Although I am skeptical about yagyas I have to admit that when I went to wash out my bowl of pasta the other night, the pesto sauce had formed an undeniable face. Unfortunately for me it was not the f

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-11 Thread curtisdeltablues
Turq answered this and hit many good points. It is still taboo here to go after a politician's religion even though it is only recently that Mormons gave up a doctrinal commitment to racism. I agree that our secular society has spoken up about the worst abuses of religion. I would just like t

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-11 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Mar 11, 2010, at 2:36 PM, PaliGap wrote: >> >> Yet if you >> propose that perhaps the Eucharist in a Catholic mass is >> NOT physically transforming in any real way, you >> are considered out of line and it is socially >> unacceptable to challenge that belief. > > I don't live in your world!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-11 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > > > - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > "You said something revealing in a previous post, that > > we have "erred on the side of" no

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ? [4 Attachments]

2010-03-11 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Mar 11, 2010, at 1:27 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: > I AM in favor of challenging the content of religious claims just as we have > successfully done with witchcraft with has fallen out of favor in society as > a serious intellectual option. (I am also not in favor of the prejudice shown > to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-11 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "PaliGap" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > [snip] > > > I AM in favor of challenging the content of religious > > claims just as we have successfully done with > > witchcraft with has fallen out of favor in s

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-11 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > "You said something revealing in a previous post, that > we have "erred on the side of" not suppressing religion > and of not being uncivil to religionists." > > Firs

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-11 Thread PaliGap
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: [snip] > I AM in favor of challenging the content of religious > claims just as we have successfully done with > witchcraft with has fallen out of favor in society as > a serious intellectual option. [snip] > Religious ideas h

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-11 Thread curtisdeltablues
- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: "You said something revealing in a previous post, that we have "erred on the side of" not suppressing religion and of not being uncivil to religionists." First I was just pissed when I read this since it is not what I meant. But then I f

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-11 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I think going after the religion rather than the behavior > > > > > > risks becoming a crusade and even a pogrom (figuratively > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-10 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > wrote: > > > > > > > > I think going after the religion rather than the behavior > > > > > risks becoming a crusade and even a pogrom (figuratively > > > > > speaking), and it doesn't affect the behavior. > > > > > > > > I missed this

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-10 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > wrote: > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > I thin

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-10 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > > > First of all if we want to talk about having a simplistic > > understanding of the Hindu religious beliefs I have to > > object to your using Krishna's statemen

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-10 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex" wrote: > > TurquoiseB: > > I *DARE* anyone here to try to come up with an > > idea so holy that it cannot be challenged. Or a > > book. I'll wait... > > > So, that's your *idea* of a strawman argument? If he didn't believe in strawman arguments,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-10 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > I think going after the religion rather than the behavior > > > risks becoming a crusade a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-10 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > I'm really glad you replied to this, Curtis. And so well. > I simply couldn't believe that someone could suggest that > ideas shouldn't be challenged unless someone takes the > idea and does something wrong with it. > > If that were true

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-10 Thread PaliGap
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > [snip] > But in the case of the karmic thoery and its social manifestation in the > caste system the numbers are reversed. We have millions of people who > believe in this thoery outside India who may not be using it for repre

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-10 Thread WillyTex
TurquoiseB: > I *DARE* anyone here to try to come up with an > idea so holy that it cannot be challenged. Or a > book. I'll wait... > So, that's your *idea* of a strawman argument?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-10 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > I don't think it makes any sense to object to ideas > > *unless* they are the cause of bad actions. The thing > > is, certain ideas can lead to good actions as wel

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-10 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > Many excellent points. > > > If the people who claim to "know" are few and have no > > social power or status, they are merely cultists. But > > if the people who cla

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-10 Thread TurquoiseB
I'm really glad you replied to this, Curtis. And so well. I simply couldn't believe that someone could suggest that ideas shouldn't be challenged unless someone takes the idea and does something wrong with it. If that were true, someone could defend Sarah Palin's belief that she can see Russia fro

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-10 Thread WillyTex
Curtis: > I am proposing that karmic thoery is not > just the basis for cruelty in the vast > majority of its believer's lives... > You didn't state what is the 'karmic theory'. The karmic theory in South Asia is the law of action-reaction. It's just like the theory of causation. Karma means ac

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-10 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > I think going after the religion rather than the behavior > > risks becoming a crusade and even a pogrom (figuratively > > speaking), and it doesn't affect the beh

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-10 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: Many excellent points. > If the people who claim to "know" are few and have no > social power or status, they are merely cultists. But > if the people who claim to "know" happen to be the > ruling class of a country, what they "know" tends

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-10 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > I don't think it makes any sense to object to ideas > *unless* they are the cause of bad actions. The thing > is, certain ideas can lead to good actions as well as > bad ones, depending on the interpretation and > inclinations of the ac

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-10 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > First of all if we want to talk about having a simplistic > understanding of the Hindu religious beliefs I have to > object to your using Krishna's statement about the > unfathomable nature of Karma out of context. He is > re

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-09 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > > > - wro

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-09 Thread curtisdeltablues
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: I think going after the religion rather than the behavior > risks becoming a crusade and even a pogrom (figuratively > speaking), and it doesn't affect the behavior. I missed this first time through. This is a legitimate point to con

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-09 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > - wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > It is his rejection of that cruel ideology that makes hi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-09 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > - wrote: > > > > > > > > > It is his rejection of that cruel ideology that makes his > > > > > thinking so attractive to me. He is saying something that > > >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-09 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Mar 9, 2010, at 2:37 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: > You think Guru Dev didn't believe in helping people who >> were suffering? > > I don't really know. He didn't seem like much of a people person to me. Understatement of the year. To me it doesn't look like he ever said much of anything to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-09 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > - wrote: > > > > > > > It is his rejection of that cruel ideology that makes his > > > > thinking so attractive to me. He is saying something that > > > > is the opposite view of the karmic belief system, "it's > > > > not fair!" > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-09 Thread authfriend
-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > wrote: > > > > > It is his rejection of that cruel ideology that makes his > > > thinking so attra

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-09 Thread curtisdeltablues
-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ShempMcGurk" wrote: If you are making a case that government agencies fuck up too you'll get no argument from me. But if you want to frame all the complexities as being because of regulations it will be as absurd as me arguing it is all because of lack of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-09 Thread ShempMcGurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: [snip] > I'm kind of skeptical that any economic ideology has this all figured out. > I'm a fan of free market capitalism but I have seen it really fuck up big > time. The devastation caused by not regulating the mortgage

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-09 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > > It is his rejection of that cruel ideology that makes his > > thinking so attractive to me. He is saying something that > > is the opposite view of the karmic

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-09 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > It is his rejection of that cruel ideology that makes his > thinking so attractive to me. He is saying something that > is the opposite view of the karmic belief system, "it's > not fair!" Well, let's say it's the opposite of t

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-09 Thread ShempMcGurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > http://bigthink.com/ideas/18172 > > > > at about 00:58 > > I have it more now then when I was in India. Although I experienced baby's > as begging props an

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-09 Thread ShempMcGurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > http://bigthink.com/ideas/18172 > > at about 00:58 > To answer the question of this thread: did I ever have this experience in India? Yes, similar ones. How did it influence me? I understood it to be what it was: a ruse to sep

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-09 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > http://bigthink.com/ideas/18172 > > at about 00:58 I have it more now then when I was in India. Although I experienced baby's as begging props and the visceral horror of lepers thrusting their finger nubs at me while in open tri-w