Re: [Finale] Measure number regions

2002-09-29 Thread Philip Aker
On Friday, Sep 27, 2002, at 12:02 US/Pacific, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: At 02:24 PM 9/27/02 -0400, ÉQ==ric Dussault wrote: It makes me wonder why would someone use scroll view nowadays unless for... Never for me as a composer. I hate page view and only use it for the very, very,

Re: [Finale] Measure number regions

2002-09-28 Thread David W. Fenton
On 27 Sep 2002 at 8:35, Christopher BJ Smith wrote: At 8:22 PM -0400 9/26/02, David W. Fenton wrote: On 26 Sep 2002 at 20:05, David H. Bailey wrote: I, for one, like the way it is implemented and have no confusion working with it. You like seeing 1:23 go to 2:1 and then 2:31 going

Re: [Finale] Measure number regions

2002-09-28 Thread David W. Fenton
On 27 Sep 2002 at 15:20, Christopher BJ Smith wrote: At 12:48 PM -0400 9/27/02, David W. Fenton wrote: Frankly, I'm beginning to conclude that many of the regular users of Finale on this list are victims of the Stockholm syndrome, because they seem unable to do anything but rationalize

Re: [Finale] Measure number regions

2002-09-28 Thread David W. Fenton
On 27 Sep 2002 at 13:39, Mark D. Lew wrote: At 12:48 PM 09/27/02, David W. Fenton wrote: Frankly, I'm beginning to conclude that many of the regular users of Finale on this list are victims of the Stockholm syndrome, because they seem unable to do anything but rationalize many of Finale's

Re: [Finale] Measure number regions

2002-09-28 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 8:29 PM -0400 9/28/02, David W. Fenton wrote: On 27 Sep 2002 at 8:35, Christopher BJ Smith wrote: At 8:22 PM -0400 9/26/02, David W. Fenton wrote: On 26 Sep 2002 at 20:05, David H. Bailey wrote: I, for one, like the way it is implemented and have no confusion working with it.

Re: [Finale] Measure number regions

2002-09-27 Thread Jari Williamsson
David W. Fenton writes: You like seeing 1:23 go to 2:1 and then 2:31 going to 3:1 and then 3:89 going to 90 and then 3:121 (which is displayed only as 121) going to 4:1, etc.? For your example, how about changing the program option to Display Actual Measure Numbers instead? You seem to

Re: [Finale] Measure number regions

2002-09-27 Thread David W. Fenton
On 27 Sep 2002 at 13:18, Éric Dussault wrote: le 9/27/02 12:48 PM, David W. Fenton à [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Obviously I'm in a minority here, as everyone seems, once again, to reflexively defend Finale's default behaviors. Frankly, I'm beginning to conclude that many of the

Re: [Finale] Measure number regions

2002-09-27 Thread David H. Bailey
David W. Fenton wrote: Okay, you're right, David, Finale sucks big-time. Why are you using it then? It is like ALL computer software I have every seen (I started on Commodore 64 and switched to PCs around the time of DOS 2.2) -- Nothing ever works the way I think it should. So I learned

Re: [Finale] Measure number regions

2002-09-27 Thread Éric Dussault
le 9/27/02 2:00 PM, David W. Fenton à [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : I'm not talking about the measure numbers in the score, just the numbers in the measure number textbox in the Finale status bar while in scroll view. It's plenty wide enough to include this. It makes me wonder why would

Re: [Finale] Measure number regions

2002-09-27 Thread David W. Fenton
On 27 Sep 2002 at 14:15, David H. Bailey wrote: Okay, you're right, David, Finale sucks big-time. Why are you using it then? Thank you, David Bailey, for providing a perfect example of exactly what I was suggesting. To you, criticism of Finale is seen as somehow inconsistent with using

Re: [Finale] Measure number regions

2002-09-27 Thread David H. Bailey
I work in scroll view for basic note entry, articulation and expression entry and lyrics entry. Then I switch to page view to deal with page layout issues. I think one of the greatest assets of Finale is that there are so many different ways to accomplish a lot things that MOST of us can find

Re: [Finale] Measure number regions

2002-09-27 Thread David H. Bailey
No, I never suggested that your criticisms of Finale is inconsistent with using and liking the program. It is just your assertion that the manner in which YOU think things should work should be the default. I even supported your suggestion that Finale allow an option to show measure numbers

Re: [Finale] Measure number regions

2002-09-27 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 03:13 PM 9/27/02 -0400, David H. Bailey wrote: we should coin a new syndrome: Fenton Syndrome -- the syndrome of thinking that your way is the only way and all who don't agree are sick. Sorry, it's taken. That's the Bathory-Kitsz syndrome of which you speak. Of course. What else could it

Re: [Finale] Measure number regions

2002-09-27 Thread David W. Fenton
On 27 Sep 2002 at 15:13, David H. Bailey wrote: No, I never suggested that your criticisms of Finale is inconsistent with using and liking the program. It is just your assertion that the manner in which YOU think things should work should be the default. I have given logical reasons for

Re: [Finale] Measure number regions

2002-09-27 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 12:48 PM -0400 9/27/02, David W. Fenton wrote: Frankly, I'm beginning to conclude that many of the regular users of Finale on this list are victims of the Stockholm syndrome, because they seem unable to do anything but rationalize many of Finale's obvious failings. I'm coming at it as a

Re: [Finale] Measure number regions

2002-09-27 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 02:24 PM 09/27/02, Éric Dussault wrote: It makes me wonder why would someone use scroll view nowadays unless for very specific reasons (slur that crosses page or cresc. etc.). I understand that someone who has a very old computer would do it and also know that it has been design years ago

Re: [Finale] Measure number regions

2002-09-27 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 9/27/02 3:45 PM or thereabouts, David W. Fenton [EMAIL PROTECTED] intoned: My point is that making a user preference to get around a flaw in the program is not really improving the program. David, Some of us have clearly, rationally explained why we feel that having the region number

Re: [Finale] Measure number regions

2002-09-27 Thread Mark D. Lew
At 12:48 PM 09/27/02, David W. Fenton wrote: Frankly, I'm beginning to conclude that many of the regular users of Finale on this list are victims of the Stockholm syndrome, because they seem unable to do anything but rationalize many of Finale's obvious failings. If we apply your reasoning to

Re: [Finale] Measure number regions

2002-09-27 Thread Éric Dussault
le 9/27/02 5:39 PM, Mark D. Lew à [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : I didn't want to judge anyone who use scroll view, was just curious. I see that most of you do love scroll view. I am not a composer and love page view because I see everything as it will be printed. At 2:24 PM 09/27/02, Éric

Re: [Finale] Measure number regions

2002-09-26 Thread Jari Williamsson
David W. Fenton writes: To me, Finale assumes wrong -- I *don't* know that at all, because who has time to keep track of how many measures there are in each section? Who cares? Of what use is that information? You don't need to keep track of the numbers of measures in each section. Finale

[Finale] Measure number regions

2002-09-25 Thread David W. Fenton
I have a slight problem, more annoying than anything else, with measure number regions in a file. For whatever reason, the display of the measure number in the lower left of the Finale status bar stops showing the region in region 3 after measure 90, despite the fact that the region extends

RE: [Finale] Measure number regions

2002-09-25 Thread David W. Fenton
On 26 Sep 2002 at 1:55, Tobias Giesen wrote: but it just doesn't display things properly. Display where? . . . In the measure textbox in the lower left of the Finale status bar, as I said in my original post. Obviously, that means scroll view, of course. If I start in measure 3:1, and

RE: [Finale] Measure number regions

2002-09-25 Thread Tobias Giesen
Hi, you're right, I confused page measure numbers. If you're positive that your measure number regions don't overlap, I guess that's just slightly erratic behavior of Finale. Cheers, Tobias ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Finale] Measure number regions

2002-09-25 Thread David H. Bailey
Finale only displays the region number if there are more than one region with the same measure numbers in them. For instance, if your region 1 has measure numbers 1-20, and your region 2 has measures 1-25, then Finale will display 1:1 or 2:1 and 1:2 or 2:2 all the way up through 1:20 and

Re: [Finale] Measure number regions

2002-09-25 Thread David W. Fenton
On 25 Sep 2002 at 22:26, David H. Bailey wrote: Finale only displays the region number if there are more than one region with the same measure numbers in them. Thank you. It is true that there are no other sections of that length in the piece. But it *is* very confusing to me. [] In