Hi Raglan --
I'm using 2011 -- no problems so far!
-- Mike
On Apr 20, 2012, at 4:17 AM, rglan wrote:
> At 8:21 AM +1000 19/4/12, David McKay wrote:
>> Raglan is the name of a village which is en route to
>> Sydney, from Bathurst, where I live.
>
> it's also a very famous surfing break in N.Z.
On 4/19/2012 5:20 AM, Christopher Smith wrote:
>
> On Thu Apr 19, at ThursdayApr 19 2:14 AM, dershem wrote:
>
>>
>> The only option I would like that 2010 doesn't have is to hide
>> staves in the piano part, and I am used to doing that with a
>> T-square and x-acto knife.
>>
>> Carl
>
>
> Hi Carl,
On 4/18/2012 11:32 PM, Jari Williamsson wrote:
> On 2012-04-19 03:05, dershem wrote:
>
>> For one thing, I could not upgrade on-line. I simply would NOT
>> function, so even though I bought the upgrade on-line, I had to pay
>> extra for a CD.
>
> Windows with anti-virus program active?
Windows7 (
On 4/19/2012 1:19 AM, SN jef chippewa wrote:
>
>> >> "Extract Parts" would NOT save as [filename+partname+ whatevr] - I
>> >> had to manually name each part.
>>
>> There is a standard option for extracting parts, and it has been
>> there for many years. It existed as a menu option but never
I agree, Robert. In my case the Score Manager was the only improvement. After a
month of playing with 2012 and re-working a few macros, I thought I'd wait for
2013.
Unless it's a dog of course :)
Nigel Hanley
ps I really hope it's not.
On 22/04/2012, at 12:05 AM, Robert Patterson wrot
I should probably clarify my position. My belief is that there is never any
reason to upgrade unless there is something in the new version you want.
One of the other posters stated that they wanted the Unicode features in
Fin12 and was already on Fin11. In that case, there is no reason not to
upgra
I paused at FinMac 2011. I wrote one arrangement on 2012, but thought that the
Score Manager wasn't reason enough to upgrade, and then have to re-do my macros.
I find FinMac 2011 quite stable. I'm on OSX 10.6.
Frankly, Jari's recent plugins are far more value to me than the 2012 update.
- Nigel
Many thanks to all who chimed in on 2011, beaucoup apprécié :-)
raglan
At 9:22 AM -0400 20/4/12, Raymond Horton wrote:
>WinFin2011 I like it - no real problems
At 2:31 PM +0100 20/4/12, Steve Parker wrote:
>2011 mac fine for me.
At 8:32 AM -0500 20/4/12, Robert Patterson wrote:
>I can only think
I'm very happy with Finale 2011 (Win) but am weighing whether Unicode is
important enough to switch to 2012. (On the other hand, because I
occasionally do Sibelius work, I did the upgrade from 6 to 7 for a
specific project, but that's been regrettable, as the new ribbon design is
an eye k
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 4:17 AM, rglan wrote:
> You seem to be the only person here currently
> using 2011, everyone else seems to have jumped
> from 2010-->2012. I wonder why? I guess I'll just ...
I've stayed with Win2011 because I really don't like the current implementation
of the Score Mana
Apple also has released 10.6 for free in the hopes that people will
use that and then upgrade to Lion. You might want to check it out.
Going from 10.5 to 10.6 resulted in speed increases for my macs
Sent from my iSomething
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On Apr 20, 2012, at 8:51 AM, Harold Owen wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
>
Hello everyone,
It's been a while since I posted here. I'm using 2011 and have no
major complaints. I'm on Mac using System 10.5.8. I'll consider
getting Finale 2012B when it's available and when I can upgrade my
system. I really like the convenience of using XML with friends who
have Sibelius
2011 mac fine for me.
Steve P.
On 19 Apr 2012, at 13:20, Christopher Smith
wrote:
>
> On Thu Apr 19, at ThursdayApr 19 2:14 AM, dershem wrote:
>
>>
>> The only option I would like that 2010 doesn't have is to hide staves in
>> the piano part, and I am used to doing that with a T-square and
I can only think of one reason not to go from Fin11 to Fin12, esp. if you
can use the Unicode. The Score Manager changes call for a little adjustment
in how you do things, but the significant regression matters only if you
need to enter a lot of instrumental music from before 1900 into Finale. In
t
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 4:17 AM, rglan wrote:
> You seem to be the only person here currently
> using 2011, everyone else seems to have jumped
> from 2010-->2012. I wonder why? I guess I'll just ...
>
o/ (Hand raised.)
WinFin2011 I like it - no real problems,
Raymond Horton
Bass Trombonist,
At 6:44 PM +1000 20/4/12, Rod McDonald wrote:
>I am amazed anyone actually lives at RAGLAN!!..
But are you amazed that RAGLAN actually lives? ;-)
>I still use 2011..first year I haven't upgraded since 2005
That's encouraging, merci
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At 8:21 AM +1000 19/4/12, David McKay wrote:
>Raglan is the name of a village which is en route to Sydney, from
>Bathurst, where I live.
it's also a very famous surfing break in N.Z. :-)
>Wondering if you have ever transcribed The London Der
At 8:21 AM +1000 19/4/12, David McKay wrote:
>Raglan is the name of a village which is en route to
>Sydney, from Bathurst, where I live.
it's also a very famous surfing break in N.Z. :-)
>Wondering if you have ever transcribed The London Derrière?
Transcribed for what? As it happens I have
tran
On Thu Apr 19, at ThursdayApr 19 2:14 AM, dershem wrote:
>
> The only option I would like that 2010 doesn't have is to hide staves in
> the piano part, and I am used to doing that with a T-square and x-acto
> knife.
>
> Carl
Hi Carl,
I know that the piano group is set by default to NOT allow
> >> "Extract Parts" would NOT save as [filename+partname+ whatevr] - I
> >> had to manually name each part.
>
>There is a standard option for extracting parts, and it has been
>there for many years. It existed as a menu option but never worked.
i think i have extracted parts maybe once since
In 2012 is it now possible to add new instruments (like horn in D or horn
in E) to the instrument list so that you can use them in future projects?
Cheers,
Lawrence
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On 2012-04-19 03:05, dershem wrote:
> For one thing, I could not upgrade on-line. I simply would NOT
> function, so even though I bought the upgrade on-line, I had to pay
> extra for a CD.
Windows with anti-virus program active?
Best regards,
Jari Williamsson
On 4/18/2012 7:22 PM, Christopher Smith wrote:
>
> On Wed Apr 18, at WednesdayApr 18 9:05 PM, dershem wrote:
>
>> On 4/18/2012 12:03 AM, SN jef chippewa wrote:
>>>
>>> carl, i am about to upgrade a few things, including finale, and
>>> wonder if you could tell me what you found so disastrous moving
On 4/18/2012 6:39 PM, Chuck Israels wrote:
> Carl,
>
> I have been using 2012 for months without problems (except for an
> issue with Lion compatibility for the paste multiple keyboard
> shortcut). I no longer extract separate parts, so that may explain
> my ignorance of those problems. Piano par
Just to iterate this further, I visited the IMSLP site and looked at the
horn and trumpet parts for Lohengrin. It calls for horns transposing in (at
various times in 4 horn parts) E, D, Eb, F, G, Ab, A, C, Bb and trumpet
transpositions in C, D, Eb, E, and F.
Entering that many transpositions for t
On Wed Apr 18, at WednesdayApr 18 9:05 PM, dershem wrote:
> On 4/18/2012 12:03 AM, SN jef chippewa wrote:
>>
>> carl, i am about to upgrade a few things, including finale, and
>> wonder if you could tell me what you found so disastrous moving from
>> 2010 to 2012 (which is what i would be doing
I agree that the instruments should be there in the default file, but my point
was that it is doable and not too hard. It isn't a dealbreaker for upgrading to
2012. Once you do it, it is very easy to select it the second time the same
instrument appears. It is no harder to create a horn in D tha
Carl,
I have been using 2012 for months without problems (except for an issue with
Lion compatibility for the paste multiple keyboard shortcut). I no longer
extract separate parts, so that may explain my ignorance of those problems.
Piano parts arrive by default with "Hide Normally" deselecte
Yes, but it gets complicated when you have a piece with horn in D and horn in E
and horn in F, and their bass clef counterparts, like so many 19th century
pieces.
If MakeMusic can preload the Vuvuzela in the instrument list, they should
certainly include standard horn and trumpet transpositions
Yes, the procedure I outlined is to do just that. It isn't preloaded, but it
isn't all that difficult. Make this change in your default document and you
shouldn't have to do it again.
Actually, I haven't checked to see if it saves to my default doc. But I'm
hoping it will work!
Christopher
O
On 4/18/2012 12:03 AM, SN jef chippewa wrote:
>
> carl, i am about to upgrade a few things, including finale, and
> wonder if you could tell me what you found so disastrous moving from
> 2010 to 2012 (which is what i would be doing soon).
For one thing, I could not upgrade on-line. I simply would
The issue is changing to an instrument that isn't already preloaded. For
example, Horn in D, Horn in E, etc.
On Apr 18, 2012, at 4:36 PM, Christopher Smith
wrote:
>
> On Wed Apr 18, at WednesdayApr 18 2:19 PM, Robert Patterson wrote:
>
>> I am sure Carl can speak for himself, but my recolle
On Wed Apr 18, at WednesdayApr 18 2:19 PM, Robert Patterson wrote:
> I am sure Carl can speak for himself, but my recollection was that it was
> the transposition problem. If you are entering big 19th scores in Finale,
> 2012 is a non-starter because of this problem, esp. if an earlier version
>
Bonjour Raglan. Raglan is the name of a village which is en route to
Sydney, from Bathurst, where I live.
Wondering if you have ever transcribed The London Derrière?
And, slightly on topic, we used FinWin 2004b for many years, but upgraded
to FinWin2011 and enjoy its comparative simplicity, thoug
Goood! +1
bien vu!
I think , you had the last word !
Le 18/04/2012 21:18, rglan a écrit :
> 18/04/2012 20:11, raglan a écrit :
>> "It's rarely used in France these days,
>> has gone out of fashion,"
> At 8:51 PM +0200 18/4/12, Claude Guéganno wrote:
>> not in Brittany !
> Bretagne n'est pas la Fra
18/04/2012 20:11, raglan a écrit :
>"It's rarely used in France these days,
>has gone out of fashion,"
At 8:51 PM +0200 18/4/12, Claude Guéganno wrote:
>not in Brittany !
Bretagne n'est pas la France ;-)
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"It's rarely used in France these days,
has gone out of fashion,"
not in Brittany !
http://www.andouille-guemene.com/cadre.htm
(the most famous in the world)
I like this "Andouille mailing list"
kenavo !
claude
Le 18/04/2012 20:11, rglan a écrit :
> At 12:26 PM -0400 18/4/12, écri
At 2:24 PM -0400 18/4/12, David H. Bailey wrote:
>Nope, I didn't take offense.
:-)
raglan
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At 6:36 PM + 18/4/12, Williams, Jim wrote:
>French equivalent of Haggis, is it then?
A slightly paler version, I think Haggis is probably closer to the
Greek Kokoretsi
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French equivalent of Haggis, is it then?
Sent from my iPhone, so please pardon all the typos.
On Apr 18, 2012, at 2:34 PM, "David H. Bailey"
wrote:
> On 4/18/2012 2:11 PM, rglan wrote:
>> At 12:26 PM -0400 18/4/12, écrit:
>>> a kind of sausage
>>
>> Oui, porc flesh mixed with chopped tripe a
On 4/18/2012 2:11 PM, rglan wrote:
> At 12:26 PM -0400 18/4/12, écrit:
>> a kind of sausage
>
> Oui, porc flesh mixed with chopped tripe and
> herbs and put inside the intestine :-)
> In the 12th c. this word also denoted the male
> sexe ;-) And I hope David H. Bailey didn't take
> offense; unlik
BTW: Fin2012 does have some linked parts improvements with respect to how
it works with plugins. For expressions, page titles, and (I believe) smart
shapes, if you edit them in part view it unlinks them from the score. This
makes using existing plugins more palatable as well as opening up
opportuni
At 12:35 PM -0500 18/4/12, Robert Patterson wrote:
>Upgrading files from 1988 will be a challenge.
:-( Merci beaucoup for all the pointers.
>This may require you to have an antique Macinstosh
Plenty of those lying around :-) I have a Macinstash ;-)
>2002 did a much better job than later version
I am sure Carl can speak for himself, but my recollection was that it was
the transposition problem. If you are entering big 19th scores in Finale,
2012 is a non-starter because of this problem, esp. if an earlier version
is available.
The transposition problem is that Fin2012 forces you to change
At 12:26 PM -0400 18/4/12, écrit:
>a kind of sausage
Oui, porc flesh mixed with chopped tripe and
herbs and put inside the intestine :-)
In the 12th c. this word also denoted the male
sexe ;-) And I hope David H. Bailey didn't take
offense; unlike most French people I tend to use
this word
yeah all features robert mentioned are of interest to me and seem to
make the upgrade worth doing, was curious why carl reverted to 2010,
what problems he (or anyone else) found when upgrading from 2010 (or
even 2011, which i don't have) to 2012.
i plan to completely rebuild my template and pr
I was listing differences from 2010 to 2012.
Many people like score manager because it is a modeless window and allows
quicker access to the instrument list. I will get used to it I am sure.
You correctly translated patootie.
Upgrading files from 1988 will be a challenge. To get useuful results
al Message -
From: rglan
Date: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 11:40 am
Subject: Re: [Finale] 2012 vs 2010
To: finale@shsu.edu
> At 11:30 AM -0400 18/4/12, David H. Bailey wrote:
> >It comes in between 2010 and 2012.
>
> Lol :-D I know that andouille ;-)
>
> >Are you askin
At 11:13 AM -0500 18/4/12, Robert Patterson wrote:
>the main differences you will notice are
Merci for the très compréhensif answer. Are all
these things you mention new to 2012 or did they
appear earlier?
I am not familiar with the Score Manager, is there anything good about it?
> the curren
I can't speak to the specifics of Fin11, having barely used it. But if you
are already on Fin10, the main differences you will notice are
1. Score Manager. This could possibly be a step forward, but if you need to
have transpositions separate from instruments or if you need to upgrade
pre-Fin12 fi
At 11:30 AM -0400 18/4/12, David H. Bailey wrote:
>It comes in between 2010 and 2012.
Lol :-D I know that andouille ;-)
>Are you asking whether it's better
>than 2010 and/or worse/better than 2012?
Oui, yes, and how does it/they compare to other versions too in terms
of stability and lack of an
On 4/18/2012 10:39 AM, rglan wrote:
> At 4:20 PM +0200 18/4/12, Jari Williamsson wrote:
>> I would suggest to wait until 2012B
>
> How does 2011 figure in all this?
>
It comes in between 2010 and 2012. Are you asking whether it's better
than 2010 and/or worse/better than 2012?
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At 4:20 PM +0200 18/4/12, Jari Williamsson wrote:
>I would suggest to wait until 2012B
How does 2011 figure in all this?
raglan
ps. sorry if I'm throwing a spanner in the works
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On 2012-04-18 09:03, SN jef chippewa wrote:
> carl, i am about to upgrade a few things, including finale, and
> wonder if you could tell me what you found so disastrous moving from
> 2010 to 2012 (which is what i would be doing soon).
If you're unsure, I would suggest to wait until 2012B. There m
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|carl, i am about to upgrade a few things, including finale, and wonder if
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|tell me what you found so disastrous moving from
|201
carl, i am about to upgrade a few things, including finale, and
wonder if you could tell me what you found so disastrous moving from
2010 to 2012 (which is what i would be doing soon).
At 17:59 -0700 4/16/12, dershem wrote:
>I still get some good stuff from the list, even though I went back
>t
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