Re: [Flexradio] Erlang, my first steps

2006-09-02 Thread Frank Brickle
On Sat, 2006-09-02 at 19:14 +0100, Bob Cowdery wrote: I think there is a very strong clue here. The architecture is aimed at supporting a radio factory. The major motivation to my mind therefore comes from the idea of a virtual radio or radio kernel architecture to support 10's or 100's of

Re: [Flexradio] Erlang, my first steps

2006-09-01 Thread Frank Brickle
It works just fine here. You have to start up 2 instances of erlang. Here's how I do it under cygwin. (1) Start up 1 instance like this: werl -sname pong then compile the tutorial c(tut17). and run it tut17:start_pong(). (2) Start up the other instance:

Re: [Flexradio] Erlang, my first steps

2006-09-01 Thread Frank Brickle
Thought that might be it. If you get a chance, look at the 'Behavior' documentation. Part of OTP (as beyond just the Erlang language) is a fairly complete set of server, state machine, task supervisor, and application frameworks for which you need to supply only callbacks. The pattern-matching

Re: [Flexradio] Erlang, my first steps

2006-09-01 Thread Frank Brickle
Bob -- A little short on time now so I can't really respond fully. Just a couple points. On Fri, 2006-09-01 at 23:20 +0100, Bob Cowdery wrote: I don't know what advantage is gained from an FP language (in this environment). Process concurrency can be proved correct when expressed in an FP,

Re: [Flexradio] Erlang, my first steps

2006-09-01 Thread Frank Brickle
One more thing. Message passing. It's one way for processes to talk but may not be appropriate in all cases. It's more than just talking. There are lots of different schema for synchronizing concurrent processes. You can easily show that any one of them (mutexes, monitors, barriers,

Re: [Flexradio] Erlang, my first steps

2006-09-01 Thread Frank Brickle
On Fri, 2006-09-01 at 23:37 -0400, Robert McGwier wrote: The history of Erlang reveals its parentage tree contains Prolog. They wanted to use Prolog but could not and give reasons. Not sure whether Bob or Eric remembers this, but a couple of years ago when we were first talking about the

Re: [Flexradio] Erlang, my first steps

2006-09-01 Thread Frank Brickle
On Fri, 2006-09-01 at 21:51 -0400, Robert McGwier wrote: I really hope after we stress this it holds up to the buffeting we must give it in tests. Oh, there's no doubt we can break it. The question is whether it's our fault or theirs...based on previous experience, we can probably guess...

Re: [Flexradio] Console Graphics - maybe mode-specific?

2006-08-29 Thread Frank Brickle
Bob -- If it's OK with you I'm taking the conversation public again, for the time being anyway. Could we for example agree that there is a distributed infrastructure (regardless of language, protocol or encoding formats) in which services are hosted and that services communicate with each

Re: [Flexradio] Console Graphics - maybe mode-specific?

2006-08-27 Thread Frank Brickle
On Sun, 2006-08-27 at 16:13 +0100, Bob Cowdery wrote: 2 I don't know if this is a real difference in topology or not. I didn't envisage a central service but more a peer-to-peer network where the VR is just a node even if that node is 'hidden' in the sense that all commands from other nodes

Re: [Flexradio] Console Graphics - maybe mode-specific?

2006-08-27 Thread Frank Brickle
On Sun, 2006-08-27 at 20:38 +0100, Bob Cowdery wrote: I've done a bit more digging. There seems to be three options for integration: 1. The arms length pipes (I think this can be TCP/IP as well and possibly some others (according to some papers I read)). Pipes only work for *nix so it means

Re: [Flexradio] Console Graphics - maybe mode-specific?

2006-08-27 Thread Frank Brickle
On Sun, 2006-08-27 at 20:38 +0100, Bob Cowdery wrote: I can't see how you move that back to the UI without having duplicate data and a lot of issues. To expand on the last point just a little, the UI also has a much more complex idea of what the VFO wants to be (VFO A+B, switching, RIT, XIT,

Re: [Flexradio] Console Graphics - maybe mode-specific?

2006-08-27 Thread Frank Brickle
On Sun, 2006-08-27 at 20:38 +0100, Bob Cowdery wrote: I haven't seen anything for Python apart from the ports tutorial that uses pipes. Have a look at py_interface, which is an all-native-Python implementation of an Erlang node, linked to from http://www.erlang.org/user.html 73 Frank AB2KT

Re: [Flexradio] Console Graphics - maybe mode-specific?

2006-08-27 Thread Frank Brickle
On Sun, 2006-08-27 at 23:10 +0100, Bob Cowdery wrote: Ok. But something in this system has to be *the* application. Yes, we're on very different wavelengths, because I don't see this at all, not at all. I see the system as a collection of services, and the VR is merely a convenient way of

Re: [Flexradio] Console Graphics - maybe mode-specific?

2006-08-26 Thread Frank Brickle
Bob -- It's very good you brought this up, because the issues are truly important. I have an onion skin model of what I want to do... I think we're imagining different topologies. The model we've been assuming is a graph. The various different processing components (DSP, hardware control, UI,

Re: [Flexradio] Console Graphics - maybe mode-specific?

2006-08-23 Thread Frank Brickle
OK, Jim. You keep writing specs. We'll keep writing radios. It's hard to avoid the impression you haven't been keeping up with developments. To echo the end of your previous note, 'nuff said. 73 Frank AB2KT On Tue, 2006-08-22 at 22:54 -0700, Jim Lux wrote: And when will those specs be

Re: [Flexradio] Console Graphics - maybe mode-specific?

2006-08-23 Thread Frank Brickle
On Wed, 2006-08-23 at 08:37 +0100, Bob Cowdery wrote: On Tue, 2006-08-22 at 22:54 -0700, Jim Lux wrote: I've been waiting for the long anticipated UI/backend split with a well defined interface, as announced, gosh, several times over the past couple years... Am I the only one that

Re: [Flexradio] new dttsp kernel?

2006-08-23 Thread Frank Brickle
On Wed, 2006-08-23 at 08:06 -0700, Jim Lux wrote: But is this in PowerSDR (which is my frame of reference/context) or in the Linux fork? Strange as this may seem, it's the Windows version that's the fork. It's intended that there will be no difference in the future. And, I assume this

Re: [Flexradio] Console Graphics - maybe mode-specific?

2006-08-23 Thread Frank Brickle
On Wed, 2006-08-23 at 18:16 +0100, James Courtier-Dutton wrote: So, a typical reason for NOT using erlang is signal processing. Why is dttsp therefore using erlang? The kernel is not doing signal processing. That, the DSP, is in sdr-core, in C. The kernel implements the virtual radio -- the

Re: [Flexradio] Come on guys, knock off the flaming

2006-08-23 Thread Frank Brickle
PowerSDR is a strawman. To date -- not counting the PowerSDR console or variants, or completely independent projects like Rocky -- there have about a half-dozen alternate, working consoles cooperating with either sdr-core (the DttSP SDR core) or its predecessor, jsdr. Two of them have appeared in

Re: [Flexradio] new dttsp kernel?

2006-08-23 Thread Frank Brickle
On Wed, 2006-08-23 at 15:12 -0700, Jim Lux wrote: Is there any preliminary description of this development? Among the developers, yes. Would this description be suitable to see the light of day, or will we wait for it to be revealed at some time in the future? We will answer no whine

Re: [Flexradio] new dttsp kernel?

2006-08-23 Thread Frank Brickle
On Wed, 2006-08-23 at 16:54 -0700, Jim Lux wrote: But, what of the planned V1.7 of PowerSDR? Gerald, Eric, Flex officialdom, is this true? There's no news here. This has been the official position since before 1.6. The next Windows incarnation will be a thorough rewrite, deserving the name

Re: [Flexradio] new dttsp kernel?

2006-08-23 Thread Frank Brickle
On Wed, 2006-08-23 at 21:23 -0700, Jim Lux wrote: Hmmm.. The document on the Flex-radio website (referenced on the What's coming page) entititled: SDR-1000 Enhancement Plan – First Half of 2006 The major-rewrite decision preceded the release of 1.6. After much subsequent discussion, it

Re: [Flexradio] Console Graphics - maybe mode-specific?

2006-08-22 Thread Frank Brickle
On Tue, 2006-08-22 at 17:25 -0700, Jim Lux wrote: The problem I see is that since there is no current specification (or even preliminary detailed sketches) of a published UI/Radio interface, everyone is sort of working on modifying what's there now. Jim, I have nothing but respect and

Re: [Flexradio] Console Graphics

2006-08-21 Thread Frank Brickle
Jim Lux wrote: And when will those specs be published? RSN? As soon as you've finished them, Jim. 73 Frank AB2KT ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link:

Re: [Flexradio] PowerSDR - distortion when playing .wav files

2006-07-27 Thread Frank Brickle
Paul Shaffer wrote: Perhaps it's a case of tweaking the UI drawing code, but inadvertently affecting the DSP audio chain. Not the DSP audio chain, but rather the analog audio chain, I suspect. You can get all sorts of crosstalk trash in your audio output from the display or the mouse. When the

Re: [Flexradio] Changing bands

2006-07-26 Thread Frank Brickle
the question Frank... I described my delima the best could. If I leave 160 meters at 1945 by clicking on the 80 meter band button ONE time, then decide to return to 160 by clicking on the 160 meter band button ONE time, it returns me to 1990 instead of 1945. On 7/25/06, Frank Brickle

Re: [Flexradio] Changing bands

2006-07-25 Thread Frank Brickle
Radio Station W5AMI wrote: My question is; why would it not default to the last freq. I sat on before going to another band if I decide to click 160 again? Whew! Hope that makes sense! Let me guess -- the band select button cycles the stacking registers regardless, even when there's been an

Re: [Flexradio] [Somewhat OT] Ubuntu observations...

2006-07-24 Thread Frank Brickle
Pete wrote: I'm hoping that the imminent split of DSP engine and GUI will ultimately lead to a totally Linux SDR-1000 platform - what's happening on this front - for instance, are there soon to be published APIs for developing a GUI that talks to the DSP? What else is happening? Lots.

Re: [Flexradio] Interesting Software

2006-07-21 Thread Frank Brickle
Is the product something besides packet shaping under another name? Another one of those things you get so used to having automatically under Linux... 73 Frank AB2KT Tim Ellison wrote: Doesn't sound like open source to me! Also, I was all my bandwidth and CPU cycles to go to PowerSDR

Re: [Flexradio] New Hot topics page and Console update

2006-07-13 Thread Frank Brickle
Jeff Anderson wrote: I have absolutely no problem with a public discussion of users' concerns regarding my Console and Flex's desire to incorporate some of my features into their Console... Jeff -- Your work with the console is as clear an indication as you could ask for of a couple of

Re: [Flexradio] DIGL Frequency readout

2006-07-12 Thread Frank Brickle
Sounds like a mode-by-mode carrier offset variable. The trick might not be so much providing the feature as reminding the user that it's in effect :-) (Why is my radio off frequency?!?) 73 Frank AB2KT Eric Wachsmann wrote: Jerry, Unfortunately, this is not a 1 line fix. It takes some

Re: [Flexradio] audio pop

2006-06-27 Thread Frank Brickle
Where is the value of top.swch.fade -- that's essentially the TRX crossfade time, in samples -- being set? In the PowerSDR code I can trace it back through setup_switching() to setup() but haven't been able to find the call to setup() :-) 73 Frank AB2KT Tom Thompson wrote: Bob and Eric,

Re: [Flexradio] audio pop

2006-06-27 Thread Frank Brickle
in SSB, you can notice the last sylable of spoken words into the mic, if you keep talking past exact point when you toggle off the PTT.. So something isn't quite right there.. -Dan - Original Message - From: Frank Brickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Sent: Tuesday, June 27

Re: [Flexradio] PowerSDR v1.6.2 Released - CW Improved / Click 'n' Drag Added

2006-06-23 Thread Frank Brickle
Eric Wachsmann - FlexRadio wrote: 1. CW Performance We have seen unanimous praise regarding the improvement in CW performance in alpha test versions of this software... 2. Click 'n' Drag ...This feature also works to tune signals... Maybe this would be a good time to enable in the console

Re: [Flexradio] PowerSDR v1.6.2 Released - CW Improved / Click 'n' Drag Added

2006-06-23 Thread Frank Brickle
: Errr uhhh, that might be a nice idea. MEA CULPA. Bob Frank Brickle wrote: Eric Wachsmann - FlexRadio wrote: 1. CW Performance We have seen unanimous praise regarding the improvement in CW performance in alpha test versions of this software... 2. Click 'n' Drag

Re: [Flexradio] Squelch Question

2006-06-19 Thread Frank Brickle
Larry Gadallah wrote: How practical/likely is it to develop a syllabic rate squelch for the SDR-1000? You might say it already exists. You can get Voice Activity Detection out of Speex already. It's good and it's free. The place to start is by making an app that runs with jack, that can be

Re: [Flexradio] About the S and D in SDR

2006-06-16 Thread Frank Brickle
Lee A Crocker wrote: ...simply be a check box on the menu Casual User...X ... The thing that will propel flex into the future is its flexibility. For example I have a vision of one day being able to deploy 16 receivers in a 192khz bandwidth that can do automatic CW decoding... A few

Re: [Flexradio] About the S and D in SDR

2006-06-16 Thread Frank Brickle
Lee A Crocker wrote: I need a knob on my radio I need a knob on my radio I need a knob on my radio... Bob N4HY and I both worked for a long time with a legendary linguistic researcher named Ned Neuburg. One of his (lesser) claims to fame was a discovery he made during a study of methods

Re: [Flexradio] About the S and D in SDR

2006-06-16 Thread Frank Brickle
Nicholas Bastin wrote: You would have to sync to GPS. You can't accurately measure network delay and compensate, because congestion and network delay are dynamic. Even then it would be odd, because you'd have to introduce delay to allow for all the stations to receive the source signal

Re: [Flexradio] DSP Question

2006-05-29 Thread Frank Brickle
Steve -- Sorry for the overly brief reply, as this deserves a more-detailed answer. For the moment, though, maybe you ought to look at gnuradio http://www.gnu.org/software/gnuradio/ It will provide all of the infrastructure you'll need to do this problem, lots of good examples, and a few other

Re: [Flexradio] DSP Question

2006-05-29 Thread Frank Brickle
referring to hardware or software implementation? 73, Steve - K5FR -Original Message- From: Frank Brickle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 10:50 AM To: Steve Nance Cc: FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] DSP Question BTW one more thing

Re: [Flexradio] Push To Talk Delay

2006-05-28 Thread Frank Brickle
John Denson wrote: Couldn't the software do that for us? My that I mean have the software command a PTT first and delay the dots and dashed a predefined number of milliseconds before sending them? This would be an enhancement in MixW, rather than in the SDR-1000 software, wouldn't it? 73

Re: [Flexradio] Zero IF SDR

2006-05-22 Thread Frank Brickle
Peter Martinez wrote: ...poor (or missing) DC coupling...really is not a problem... As a generalization, I believe this is untrue. 73 Frank AB2KT ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz

Re: [Flexradio] Cw Latency Problem Solved?

2006-05-22 Thread Frank Brickle
mode. There are no skips on transmit or recieve. I know a few people that wont buy the flex just because of that. What a shame. I guess there will be a few cw geeks...uh freaks that won't buy the radio for the same reasons.(latency) From: Frank Brickle To: FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz

Re: [Flexradio] Zero IF SDR

2006-05-21 Thread Frank Brickle
The DSP software is already capable of 0 Hz IF, and has been since its earliest version. IIRC the 11025 Hz IF is primarily a consequence of the frequency response of typical soundcards, which start rolling off somewhere in the vicinity of 200-300 Hz. 73 Frank AB2KT Peter Martinez wrote: From

Re: [Flexradio] Cw Latency Problem Solved?

2006-05-21 Thread Frank Brickle
Jimmy Jones wrote: I wish some of brain - o's could solve the monitor latency problem. Well, according to Science Today magazine this week, some string theorists are speculating that time travel may actually be feasible. With that solved the monitor latency problem won't be far behind. Till

Re: [Flexradio] Fw: 16 versus 24 bit audio

2006-05-19 Thread Frank Brickle
Often (as with ALSA) the option exists to dither samples with random bits drawn from various distributions, to ameliorate quantization noise. In any case there isn't much to do about the low bits inside the SDR software. The samples are delivered as floats. Masking would need to be done

Re: [Flexradio] 11.025 KHz IF question

2006-05-04 Thread Frank Brickle
44100 is the CD data rate (48000 is the DAT rate) 44100 complex samples/sec - +/-22050Hz passband 22050/2 = 11025 - center of positive freqs You want IF (11025) rather than baseband because soundcards roll off towards 0Hz. That jog it? 73 Frank AB2KT richard allen wrote: Would someone

Re: [Flexradio] orion-sdr1000 comparison

2006-04-30 Thread Frank Brickle
James P Lux wrote: The DSP chain is also currently structured in a way that is sort of Tx or Rx, but not both, at one time, with transitions between Tx/Rx only occuring on block/buffer boundaries. It's half duplex and necessarily so under the current Windows incarnation, where the DSP

Re: [Flexradio] orion-sdr1000 comparison

2006-04-30 Thread Frank Brickle
Guy Olinger, K2AV wrote: How can SDR make use of dual core processors, which are becoming quite affordable? Bear in mind that none of the problems currently experienced with CW on the SDR1K should be attributed to a lack of CPU resources. There are plenty of cycles to go around for *many*

Re: [Flexradio] A Dumb programming question...

2006-04-29 Thread Frank Brickle
Dale Boresz wrote: The MS recommendation is to use the Convert.To() methods such as: int ix100 = Convert.ToInt32(x100) ... If you're doing this in the C language, I think the ceiling function (don't remember the exact syntax of the function - it may be ceil()) will do the trick Probably

Re: [Flexradio] Audigy 2 ZS Notebook Sound Card

2006-04-25 Thread Frank Brickle
Bill Tracey wrote: OK -- I'll take a look at adding support for handling +/- 1 sample offset in the DttSP audio callbacks... FB. Not sure how you want to handle this, and I'm absolutely certain you don't need to be reminded of it, but there should surely be some mechanism for

Re: [Flexradio] Audigy 2 ZS Notebook Sound Card

2006-04-25 Thread Frank Brickle
Robert McGwier wrote: Couple of typos here. The next line would be something like if (offset 0) for(i=0;ioffset; --i) ^^^^ ringb_float_write(top.jack.ring.i.l, zero,1); else for(i=0;ioffset;i++) ringb_float_write(top.jack.ring.i.r, zero,1);

Re: [Flexradio] Audigy 2 ZS Notebook Sound Card

2006-04-24 Thread Frank Brickle
Bill -- ...Anyone have an opinion on the right place to implement such an option - ie on the C# side of the world, or should it be down in the DttSP code?... It's a good bet the skew problem, if that is indeed the problem, is not unique to the Audigy and thus deserves a general solution. It

Re: [Flexradio] [OT] Danger! Ubuntu 6.06 beta busted MBR/partition size

2006-04-22 Thread Frank Brickle
FWIW what originally sent me to Ubuntu was trying to dual-boot XP and Linux by installing the new OS to an external USB2 drive. It's hopeless under SuSE. Clunky with Knoppix. Elementary with Ubuntu. Nevertheless it's a little safer all around, if you want to play with beta OS releases, to do

Re: [Flexradio] Linux distros

2006-04-21 Thread Frank Brickle
Too late. The decision's made already: Ubuntu. 73 Frank AB2KT Jim Lux wrote: I'm going to leap right into the middle of a religious war here.. As all the linux-o-philes know, there are probably 200 different distros out there, each having some unique properties that at least one person

Re: [Flexradio] Linux distros

2006-04-21 Thread Frank Brickle
Jim Lux wrote: Ah, yes.. but, then, are all Linux users of the SDR1000 going to be building gnuradio from scratch? No, but it's a good standard of comparison. Try it sometime on a different distro. This goes back to choosing a target distro based on the developers' preference or the

Re: [Flexradio] Linux distros

2006-04-21 Thread Frank Brickle
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (If you don't plan to really enforce it but merely say that's what we'll officially support, then there is no decision, really, just a preferred pathway, which is much different). That's all it ever meant. I don't see why this discussion is even taking place. 73

Re: [Flexradio] Linux distros

2006-04-21 Thread Frank Brickle
Lars E. Pettersson wrote: I will try to make a spec-file and rpm for Fedora, probably usable on the other rpm-specific distros. Mainly for my own use, but I imagine that others could be interested in it also. Lars, that would be very useful for everybody. Thank you. One of the things I hope

Re: [Flexradio] GPL, round 9123. (was Re: WA6AHL Console)

2006-04-15 Thread Frank Brickle
No, you were right on the money about the lawyers, which was really the only important part. 73 Frank AB2KT Robert McGwier wrote: TRUE. Sorry, I misspoke. Frank Brickle wrote: Robert McGwier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The copyright in the code says that you may not sell it without

Re: [Flexradio] PowerSDR v1.6.0 is Released

2006-03-28 Thread Frank Brickle
Ross Stenberg wrote: Well, I downloaded and installed release v1.6.0. As soon as I ran it, my radio went into oscillation and started the house on fire, the cat lost all of its hair, and my wife left me for another woman. At least the S meter is accurate and the preamp allows me to receive 27

Re: [Flexradio] 160 hz notch

2006-03-22 Thread Frank Brickle
Bill Nagle wrote: Perhaps we should start a thread on the forum and get other pinions? Presumably this issue is not a matter of opinion. Either there's a solid technical argument behind it or there isn't. As a general rule I'd suggest that (A) engineering errors get fixed in the official

Re: [Flexradio] High-Resolution Clock on AMD64 / nVidia nForce

2006-03-22 Thread Frank Brickle
Dale Richardson wrote: The delay of the signal through the receiver is noticeable. I put a Yaesu FT-920 next to the SDR on receive and transmitted cw with another transmitter and the SDR is always a few milliseconds behind. The lag is noticeable enough that it is easy to lose the sync of a dx

Re: [Flexradio] Pegasus to FlexRadio?

2006-03-19 Thread Frank Brickle
Craig Roberts wrote: Has anyone transitioned from a Ten Tec Pegasus to a FlexRadio? If so, what are your comparative impressions, please? Or, for that matter, from the combination of Ham Radio DeLuxe and a more convetional, high-end modern transceiver? 73 Frank AB2KT

Re: [Flexradio] want to trade 746pro for SDR-1000

2006-03-18 Thread Frank Brickle
Willi Reppel wrote: The reflector is no recycling plant for obsolete elec-tronic appliances. Anyhow, who wants to trade in a bleeding edge for a leading edge of technology. My IC-746 (not Pro) does QSK... ;-) 73 Frank AB2KT

Re: [Flexradio] SVN Anonymous [OT- humor]

2006-03-15 Thread Frank Brickle
Hmm. Makes me think about bored firemen becoming arsonists...be careful, you might just be tempted to commit programming. 73 Frank AB2KT Tim Ellison wrote: I hate to admit it, but I am experiencing SVN withdrawals today. It has been over 24 hours since Bob posted the last fix. Not even a

Re: [Flexradio] OK I'll start another 'flamewar

2006-03-15 Thread Frank Brickle
Eric Ellison wrote: As a Linux neophyte and I am still a little confused by all the jargon, and the seeming complexity of getting all the parts to play together nicely... Wimps! Go off and try to get soundcard packet running on your Linux machines, and then come back and tell me about

Re: [Flexradio] resource requirements for PowerSDR Re: New mobos from Via

2006-03-14 Thread Frank Brickle
KD5NWA wrote: The CPU that burps today, may not function at all tomorrow. All this talk of motherboards, I would get something with extra gas in the tank. The basic SDR DSP and audio run fine on a 533MHz machine. What you need the extra power for are (1) the graphical display (2) short

Re: [Flexradio] Question About VOX and Other Stuff

2006-02-28 Thread Frank Brickle
Just to throw in another incompatible opinion, I'm not sure there *is* such a thing as proper VOX. I couldn't get it to work right on my rig in 1966 and I can't get it to work right on any rig today. By that standard the current SDR1K VOX is doing fine ;-) 73 Frank AB2KT Bob McGwier N4HY

Re: [Flexradio] question about top level of DSP

2006-02-27 Thread Frank Brickle
Jim Lux wrote: What the meaning and implications of the basic states: run_mute As the name implies, continue running normally, but produce no audio output. run_pass Continue running but pass input to output unchanged; literal copy from input to output. run_play The ordinary mode,

Re: [Flexradio] [OT] C# dependency graph generator

2006-02-27 Thread Frank Brickle
Jim Lux wrote: WIth reference to dttsp A start of some of the flow of control in sdr.c may be found at http://home.earthlink.net/~w6rmk/sdr1000/index.htm I'm starting to diagram the flow of control in main/winmain (i.e. the various parallel threads) The data structure file I'd start with is

Re: [Flexradio] A little more light entertainment

2006-02-24 Thread Frank Brickle
Bob, I think this deserves the John Lennon accolade: Luuuve-ly, simply lvely. 73 Frank AB2KT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Smalltalk based SDR-Breadboard radio is coming along. This release is primarily aimed at Windows although the Linux functionality is still intact. Have a look on

[Flexradio] [SDRLUG] Expanding the Scope a Little

2006-02-22 Thread Frank Brickle
All, Just wondering. Is it a good idea to expand the group to take in BSD and Mac OSX potential users? 73 Frank AB2KT

[Flexradio] [Fwd: Re: snap_meter? snap_spectrum?]

2006-02-22 Thread Frank Brickle
Subject:Re: [Flexradio] snap_meter? snap_spectrum? Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 13:24:33 -0500 From: Frank Brickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jim Lux [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jim Lux wrote: Where are they defined? How do they work? meter.c and spectrum.c

Re: [Flexradio] [SDRLUG] Expanding the Scope a Little

2006-02-22 Thread Frank Brickle
to be on the way to becoming, we should certainly make every attempt to include them. Both the java and Qt code will run on the Mac. I know from my WSJT development experience the *BSD's will run the c, p-threads, python stuff without a lot of hacking. Bob Frank Brickle wrote: All, Just

[Flexradio] Proposed change to jsdr update

2006-02-22 Thread Frank Brickle
All, Yesterday Jim made some observations about errors and error trapping in the update command processing in jsdr. This was coming sooner or later but, being very lazy, I wasn't going to do anything about it until somebody complained. If it ain't broke etc. However it *is* somewhat broke so

Re: [Flexradio] watch receivers

2006-02-21 Thread Frank Brickle
Bill Tracey wrote: With the FPGA based sound I/O work we're doing, independent D/A channels are fairly easy, just instantiate a PWM decoder in the FPGA and an R and C in hardware can be used as an output channel. Can I have one *now*, please? ;-) If that's the case, then it's probably time

Re: [Flexradio] watch receivers

2006-02-21 Thread Frank Brickle
Jim Lux wrote: Actually, it would be an extremely common configuration these days, what with standard 5.1 audio on most consumer oriented PCs. Right, although I honestly don't know how common a 5.1 audio gadget is that also lives up to the performance standards people are demanding from

Re: [Flexradio] question about missing parameters in update.c

2006-02-21 Thread Frank Brickle
Jim Lux wrote: Not in the command processor, at least as far as the parsing of the command strings go. But, I think you DO want strong typing when passing a parsed token (i.e. it's been converted into a enumerated value) to a routine, especially if the destination routine might be compiled

Re: [Flexradio] question about missing parameters in update.c

2006-02-21 Thread Frank Brickle
Jim Lux wrote: I would qualify that and say that in *amateur oriented* SDR implementations, error recovery (or detection) in commanding is given short shrift. If you're talking about JTRS, who knows? Literally. And, at least for would-be developers of a generator of commands, it's nice to

Re: [Flexradio] documentation for dttsp

2006-02-20 Thread Frank Brickle
Jim Lux wrote: At 12:04 PM 2/20/2006, Frank Brickle wrote: Would it be possible to render the diagrams as PDFs? how about ps? That's fine too. No Visio here unfortunately. Many thanks Frank AB2KT

Re: [Flexradio] Comments on API

2006-02-19 Thread Frank Brickle
Larry Loen wrote: Of course. It's all about latency. But, you reduce the general load and that helps latency. Even if it is at the margins. A CPU that is idle more often will service an interrupt faster than one that is busier. This is nonsense. The latency is imposed by the buffer sizes

Re: [Flexradio] Comments on API

2006-02-19 Thread Frank Brickle
Larry Loen wrote: If you'd care to explain the glitches I'm already experiencing, it would be tremendously confidence building. Are you not experiencing any? No. And, you haven't addressed word one about the lower level infrastructure. That is incorrect. To my knowledge, XML level

Re: [Flexradio] Comments on API

2006-02-19 Thread Frank Brickle
Jim Lux wrote: update.[ch]. The list of commands is in command-vocabulary. I think we need a bit more help here, Frank. Is there a list of commands and their syntax, anywhere? It's in the file command-vocabulary. A bit of explanation of how do_update works might also be useful. What

Re: [Flexradio] Surmised structure of update.c

2006-02-19 Thread Frank Brickle
Jim Lux wrote: OK, here's what I've figured out sofar. Anyone (Frank, Bob,?) who can confirm or deny, please pitch in. Looks good so far. updates.c contains a whole raft of small routines which execute various commands. The main smarts of this is a routine called do_update, which parses a

Re: [Flexradio] Comments on API

2006-02-19 Thread Frank Brickle
Jim Lux wrote: Do you mean splitfields.c? Can you elaborate (or point to where you drew it form) on what split, splitonto, spliton do and how they fit together? I assume that newSplit,delSplit are constructors and destructors for SPLIT objects, and NF, Fptr, and F are helper functions that

Re: [Flexradio] documentation roadmap

2006-02-19 Thread Frank Brickle
The .h files are all written in such a way that any .c file can just #include common.h or #include the-dot-h-of-its-own-type without worrying about multiple definitions. As a side effect, common.h is a canonical list of data type definitions, in the order in which they have to be known to compile

Re: [Flexradio] On open source development

2006-02-16 Thread Frank Brickle
From the article: Lessons Learned So the risk is that a well-funded open source team that is NOT led by someone with a personal interest in shipping the project will get distracted by other shiny tech toys and fail to actually ship

Re: [Flexradio] Howcum?

2006-02-15 Thread Frank Brickle
Eric -- You are one of the great magicians at getting people moving in the same direction on amateur radio projects. I hate to disagree with you, to some degree out of the fear of being wrong. In this case however it's only a little afraid. Eric Ellison wrote: Therefore we will probably

Re: [Flexradio] Howcum?

2006-02-15 Thread Frank Brickle
Why not try Linux from a live CD? Knoppix http://www.knoppix.org is very good and very popular. It's a little cluttered for my taste. The Ubuntu live CD http://www.ubuntu.com is excellent too. At the moment I'm favoring Ubuntu as the distribution of choice. 73 Frank AB2KT Philip Covington

Re: [Flexradio] Howcum?

2006-02-15 Thread Frank Brickle
Eric Ellison wrote: Yep, it should form the basis for a specification, for the product, not the product itself. Once a team has the spec, then the project can move forward. I really urge anybody interested in this project to look through http://www.paulgraham.com/articles.html. Most

Re: [Flexradio] Linux for Windows Boxes (was Howcum?)

2006-02-15 Thread Frank Brickle
Eric Wachsmann - FlexRadio wrote: Just to throw another wrench into the mix, you could buy a hard drive with plenty of room to add to your windows box for a dual boot system for a similar price. Lots of options. I recently got an external USB2 drive, 100GB 7200RPM $100, for just this

Re: [Flexradio] FCC equipment authorization

2006-02-06 Thread Frank Brickle
Robert McGwier wrote: Frank and I will be able to easily extend the DttSP supported hardware by a factor of 2 :-P by running it behind the GnuRadio with portaudio. It's only 3/2! Or even less if you count the SoftRock 4 and 5 as different hardware. Anyway it's the portaudio part that's

Re: [Flexradio] Artificial ground

2006-01-10 Thread Frank Brickle
Hey Bob -- Wonder if you really need it. All the artificial ground is, is a series LC and a relative current indicator. Hard to believe you couldn't put one together out of your junkbox in a few minutes. 73 Frank AB2KT Bob Tracy wrote: Anyone have any experience with the MFJ-931

Re: [Flexradio] diversity reception

2006-01-08 Thread Frank Brickle
The software could easily handle diversity reception, but you'd need to provide a separate, independent RF path and A/D conversion input pair for each channel. In short, another whole SDR1K hardware box. 73 Frank AB2KT Lee A Crocker wrote: I have an interest in diversity reception.

Re: [Flexradio] diversity reception

2006-01-08 Thread Frank Brickle
The DSP code currently supports up to four receivers within the passband that are completely independent with respect to tuning, filtering, mode, and panning between the output audio channels. These multiple receivers are not yet supported by the Windows user interface, however. In fact,

Re: [Flexradio] PowerSDR DttSP v1.4.5 preview 10 Linux port

2006-01-07 Thread Frank Brickle
Cowdery, Bob [UK] wrote: I don't know about others but I for one would really appreciate a statement on the direction of the Linux jsdr. In the beginning Linux was the master source which was then ported to Windows... The Linux and Windows versions have officially forked. None of the recent

Re: [Flexradio] A bit of light entertainment

2005-12-29 Thread Frank Brickle
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok guys. I think a bit of real information is called for here. You're too modest, Bob. This is exactly what I (personally, from a very jaundiced point of view) want an SDR to be. 73 Frank AB2KT

Re: [Flexradio] Mine's bigger than yours?

2005-12-24 Thread Frank Brickle
You can see it got a *lot* bigger when we started including all the spyware. (Just kidding) 73 Frank AB2KT Joe - AB1DO wrote: Hi all, Yesterday I got a great birthday present - a new radio (Preview 9)! And it was the biggest one yet, which prompted me to look at size (in kB) over time.

Re: [Flexradio] SSB vs CW transmit paths

2005-12-05 Thread Frank Brickle
I wonder if two sets of buffers need to be sent back - one to be sent to the transmit hardware and one to be used for sidetone. This is approximately what happens under Linux. Generating sidetone within jsdr (as opposed to an outboard keyer) requires 4 audio output ports. (The keyer is

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