Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2005-05-07 Thread Erik Hofman
Martin Spott wrote: Martin Spott wrote: I found a third location: Great, with the patches I posted these days and an additional '-lpthread' to the final linker run we're up to date with Solaris portability, All these patches have been committed now. I still have to look into the -pthread issue.

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/Network net_ctrls.hxx, 1.18,

2005-05-06 Thread Martin Spott
Curtis L. Olson wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/source/src/Network In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv347 Modified Files: net_ctrls.hxx net_fdm.hxx Log Message: 32 bit integers are somewhat magical and handled pretty well across platforms in terms of predictable packing and

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2005-05-06 Thread Martin Spott
Martin Spott wrote: I found a third location: Great, with the patches I posted these days and an additional '-lpthread' to the final linker run we're up to date with Solaris portability, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are !

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main fg_os_sdl.cxx, 1.11, 1.12

2005-04-06 Thread James Turner
On 6 Apr 2005, at 09:46, Erik Hofman wrote: Modified Files: fg_os_sdl.cxx Log Message: Melchior FRANZ: Make SDL window resizable; This exposes the same problem that many GLUT users have: resizing up may cause a temporary switch to software rendering if the card is low on memory. Resizing

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main fg_os_sdl.cxx, 1.11, 1.12

2005-04-06 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* James Turner -- Wednesday 06 April 2005 11:37: Bad news - I've had this change in my tree for a few months now, and it doesn't work right on OS-X So then add a #ifdef for OS-X around the resize event, so that it is simply ignored? Did you send a bug report to the SDL people? #ifdef OSX //

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main fg_os_sdl.cxx, 1.11, 1.12

2005-04-06 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Melchior FRANZ -- Wednesday 06 April 2005 12:14: Did you send a bug report to the SDL people? Or the plib people? Anyway, we allow glut windows to be resized, and I wouldn't understand if we wouldn't allow it for SDL on all systems, just because of broken OSX or broken OSX support in plib. m.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main fg_os_sdl.cxx, 1.11, 1.12

2005-04-06 Thread James Turner
On 6 Apr 2005, at 11:14, Melchior FRANZ wrote: So then add a #ifdef for OS-X around the resize event, so that it is simply ignored? Did you send a bug report to the SDL people? I think you misunderstand, it's not an SDL bug: *FlightGear is relying on assumption about how OpenGL implementations

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main fg_os_sdl.cxx, 1.11, 1.12

2005-04-06 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* James Turner -- Wednesday 06 April 2005 12:28: Of course, we can certainly live without the feature on Mac - just be aware the fault lies with FG / PLIB for not providing an API that is somewhat important in real-world situations. I for one would love to be able to switch from full-screen

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main fg_os_sdl.cxx, 1.11, 1.12

2005-04-06 Thread James Turner
On 6 Apr 2005, at 12:53, Melchior FRANZ wrote: Err ... or is it SDL_SetVideoMode() in SDL's video/SDL_video.c? There's a suspicious comment in there: * WARNING, we need to make sure that the previous mode hasn't * already been freed by the video driver. What do we do in *

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main fg_os_sdl.cxx, 1.11, 1.12

2005-04-06 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* James Turner -- Wednesday 06 April 2005 14:17: - Making PLIB / FG support vid restarts would be a very good thing to do, but would be a lot of work and invasive. I would be happy to give it a go if I thought the patches would be accepted! Sigh ... that's not so sure. - We can live with

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main fg_os_sdl.cxx, 1.11, 1.12

2005-04-06 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Melchior FRANZ -- Wednesday 06 April 2005 13:19: So it's the glViewport() in FGRenderer::resize() that doesn't work with plib/fgfs on OSX? Err ... or is it SDL_SetVideoMode() in SDL's video/SDL_video.c? There's a suspicious comment in there: * WARNING, we need to make sure that the

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/fokker100/Models

2005-03-31 Thread Martin Spott
Hello Erik, Erik Hofman wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/fokker100/Models In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv14144 Modified Files: f70_cabin.ac fokker70.ac fokker70.xml Log Message: Some final changes, fixes and updates for some time The model looks very nice

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/fokker100/Models

2005-03-31 Thread Erik Hofman
Martin Spott wrote: The model looks very nice and the handling feels pretty easy. It's only Thanks. that I'm missing the cabin door being coupled to the parking brake as it was in your first version ;-) No, it's not ... :-) Erik ___ Flightgear-devel

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]

2005-03-31 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman wrote: Martin Spott wrote: that I'm missing the cabin door being coupled to the parking brake as it was in your first version ;-) No, it's not ... Hmmm, I don't understand: Did you decouple the cabin door from the parking brake intentionally because you thing the coupling is

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main fg_init.cxx, 1.115, 1.116

2005-01-29 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Erik Hofman wrote : Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/FlightGear/src/Main In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv24714 Modified Files: fg_init.cxx Log Message: Geoff Air: RE: --aircraft=ufo in system.fgfsrc is ignored To change a 'feature', one that has been mentioned here many times, and again

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main fg_init.cxx, 1.115, 1.116

2005-01-29 Thread Erik Hofman
Frederic Bouvier wrote: I can revert the patch or someone running windows should provide me a patch instead. Erik Well, reading this piece of code, I don't see how it could work. see below : Index: fg_init.cxx === RCS file:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main fg_init.cxx, 1.115, 1.116

2005-01-29 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Erik Hofman wrote : Frederic Bouvier wrote: I can revert the patch or someone running windows should provide me a patch instead. Or do both, because the current patch seems useless. Is it windows specific ? -Fred ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main fg_init.cxx, 1.115, 1.116

2005-01-29 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Frederic Bouvier a écrit : Erik Hofman wrote : Frederic Bouvier wrote: I can revert the patch or someone running windows should provide me a patch instead. Or do both, because the current patch seems useless. Is it windows specific ? This one seems better ( move the added block 3 lines upward )

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main fg_init.cxx, 1.115, 1.116

2005-01-29 Thread Erik Hofman
Frederic Bouvier wrote: Frederic Bouvier a écrit : Erik Hofman wrote : Frederic Bouvier wrote: I can revert the patch or someone running windows should provide me a patch instead. Or do both, because the current patch seems useless. Is it windows specific ? This one seems better ( move the

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Huds/Default default.xml, 1.4, 1.5

2005-01-16 Thread Martin Spott
Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Huds/Default In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv19455/Huds/Default Modified Files: default.xml Log Message: Disable the runway outline in the hud for now until a few more issues get resolved. (It's a nifty feature though.) What do you think

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Models/Weather rain.ac, 1.1,

2005-01-04 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Models/Weather In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv5714 Modified Files: rain.ac rain.xml Log Message: Model changes and add some select's. Great idea, especially because there's no 'cigar' around the cockpit anymore ;-)

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Models/Weather rain.ac, NONE,

2005-01-03 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Models/Weather In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv28318/Models/Weather Added Files: rain.ac rain.rgb rain.xml Log Message: Add a basic model for rain. Test w. the pc-7 This looks quite interesting but I realize that this might

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Models/Weather rain.ac, NONE,

2005-01-03 Thread Dave Martin
On Monday 03 Jan 2005 16:11, Martin Spott wrote: Erik Hofman wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Models/Weather In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv28318/Models/Weather Added Files: rain.ac rain.rgb rain.xml Log Message: Add a basic model for rain. Test w. the pc-7 This

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Models/Weather rain.ac, NONE,

2005-01-03 Thread Erik Hofman
Martin Spott wrote: Erik Hofman wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Models/Weather In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv28318/Models/Weather Added Files: rain.ac rain.rgb rain.xml Log Message: Add a basic model for rain. Test w. the pc-7 This looks quite interesting but I realize that this

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Models/Weather rain.ac, NONE,

2005-01-03 Thread Dave Martin
On Monday 03 Jan 2005 17:32, Erik Hofman wrote: Well, this will only cover a part of the rain problem. I had an idea a while back that being able to change the specular material setting for runways / taxiways 'on the fly' could produce the sort of wet 'sheen' you get on asphalt when it

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Models/Weather rain.ac, NONE,

2005-01-03 Thread Erik Hofman
Dave Martin wrote: On Monday 03 Jan 2005 17:32, Erik Hofman wrote: Well, this will only cover a part of the rain problem. I had an idea a while back that being able to change the specular material setting for runways / taxiways 'on the fly' could produce the sort of wet 'sheen' you get on

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/737/Instruments pfd2.xml,

2004-12-14 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Martin Spott -- Monday 13 December 2004 22:14: I can confirm that the VSPEED display in the 737 PFD actually always shows the number 0 but I'd say this is still better than a fps display - at least for a real pilot. If the display sticks to 0 the pilot will realize very soon that it is

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/737/Instruments pfd2.xml,

2004-12-13 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman wrote: could you consider to apply this as well? The vertical speed display did never ever work. It uses a property /velocities/vertical-speed-fpm. Feet per minute? This property doesn't exist. I posted this patch on the developers list (6 Nov 2004) to give the 737 engineers a

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re:[Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:data preferences.xml, 1.161, 1.162

2004-12-01 Thread Vivian Meazza
Curt wrote: As a project, FlightGear needs to depend on the stable releases of the stuff it depends on, not cvs development trees. That get's to be too big of a mess. Many distributions include the latest stable version of plib, and that is often easier to build. It's ok for developers to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re:[Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:data preferences.xml, 1.161, 1.162

2004-12-01 Thread Erik Hofman
Vivian Meazza wrote: So we have the situation where at least some of the current binary releases, do not follow this policy. The Windows for one seems to accept the crease token. The policy is not meant for the binary releases. A binary-release maintainer may even chose to use plib-1.7.3 if

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re:[Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:data preferences.xml, 1.161, 1.162

2004-12-01 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Vivian Meazza wrote: So we have the situation where at least some of the current binary releases, do not follow this policy. The Windows for one seems to accept the crease token. Binary releases, by definition, are not meant to be rebuild, so the hassle of collecting patches and making all

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re:[Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:data preferences.xml, 1.161, 1.162

2004-12-01 Thread Vivian Meazza
Erik Hofman wrote: Vivian Meazza wrote: So we have the situation where at least some of the current binary releases, do not follow this policy. The Windows for one seems to accept the crease token. The policy is not meant for the binary releases. A binary-release maintainer may

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re:[Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:data preferences.xml, 1.161, 1.162

2004-12-01 Thread Erik Hofman
Vivian Meazza wrote: Erik Hofman wrote: The policy is not meant for the binary releases. A binary-release maintainer may even chose to use plib-1.7.3 if he/she wishes to do so. The policy is to make it _work_ with the latest official plib release. Now I'm confused. Make what work? Sorry, I

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re:[Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:data preferences.xml, 1.161, 1.162

2004-12-01 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Quoting Vivian Meazza : The patch has been committed to plib CVS. Now we only (...) need to convince them to release a new stable version. Excellent news, what about the joystick problem? not committed yet, but I just asked again on the plib list. -Fred

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data preferences.xml, 1.161, 1.162

2004-11-30 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv3809 Modified Files: preferences.xml Log Message: Comment out the nimitz for now. Hm ? I thought Curt just made it working with stock PLIB - is it still broken ? Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data preferences.xml, 1.161, 1.162

2004-11-30 Thread David Megginson
On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 14:55:29 + (UTC), Martin Spott [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hm ? I thought Curt just made it working with stock PLIB - is it still broken ? It uses the AC3D crease directive, which stock plib doesn't support. More importantly, FlightGear still tries to load the Nimitz even when

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data preferences.xml, 1.161, 1.162

2004-11-30 Thread Jon Stockill
David Megginson wrote: On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 14:55:29 + (UTC), Martin Spott [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hm ? I thought Curt just made it working with stock PLIB - is it still broken ? It uses the AC3D crease directive, which stock plib doesn't support. At 03:47 today. Modified Files: nimitz.ac Log

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data preferences.xml, 1.161, 1.162

2004-11-30 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Martin Spott -- Tuesday 30 November 2004 15:55: Erik Hofman wrote: Comment out the nimitz for now. Hm ? I thought Curt just made it working with stock PLIB - is it still broken ? Yes, he did. But Vivian's changes from today refer to a file nimitz-complex.ac, which isn't in CVS, and was

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data preferences.xml, 1.161, 1.162

2004-11-30 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Jon Stockill -- Tuesday 30 November 2004 16:39: At 03:47 today. Modified Files: nimitz.ac Log Message: Remove crease tag so that people without custom patched versions of plib can still run FlightGear. :-) Yes, and at ... um ... right *now*: $ cd

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:data preferences.xml, 1.161, 1.162

2004-11-30 Thread Vivian Meazza
Melchior FRANZ * Jon Stockill -- Tuesday 30 November 2004 16:39: At 03:47 today. Modified Files: nimitz.ac Log Message: Remove crease tag so that people without custom patched versions of plib can still run FlightGear. :-) Yes, and at ... um ... right *now*: $ cd

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:data preferences.xml, 1.161, 1.162

2004-11-30 Thread David Megginson
On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 18:40:53 -, Vivian Meazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry guys, I sent today's Nimitz before I realized that Curt was removing crease tokens. Mind you, after all the effort we went to get it in ... I'm a bit confused here. Mathias submitted a patch to plib, and I thought

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:datapreferences.xml, 1.161, 1.162

2004-11-30 Thread Vivian Meazza
David Megginson On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 18:40:53 -, Vivian Meazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry guys, I sent today's Nimitz before I realized that Curt was removing crease tokens. Mind you, after all the effort we went to get it in ... I'm a bit confused here. Mathias submitted a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:datapreferences.xml, 1.161, 1.162

2004-11-30 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Vivian Meazza wrote: Absolutely right, but here we are talking FG cvs with plib cvs (or not as the case might be) Right, but if we depend on plib cvs, we could never again make a stable release until plib rolls the current cvs version into a stable release ... that puts us in a bad position.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:data preferences.xml, 1.161, 1.162

2004-11-30 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Vivian Meazza wrote: Sorry guys, I sent today's Nimitz before I realized that Curt was removing crease tokens. Mind you, after all the effort we went to get it in ... I'm a bit confused here. Mathias submitted a patch to plib, and I thought that Wolfram Kuss had uploaded it. What's the problem -

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: datapreferences.xml, 1.161, 1.162

2004-11-30 Thread Vivian Meazza
Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Martin Spott -- Tuesday 30 November 2004 15:55: Erik Hofman wrote: Comment out the nimitz for now. Hm ? I thought Curt just made it working with stock PLIB - is it still broken ? Yes, he did. But Vivian's changes from today refer to a file nimitz-

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:data

2004-11-30 Thread Martin Spott
David Megginson wrote: On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 18:40:53 -, Vivian Meazza No, it's just a matter of stability. We don't want FlightGear releases to have to depend on prerelease CVS versions of plib, so we have to wait until the next plib official release. I'm not convinced that this actually

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:datapreferences.xml, 1.161, 1.162

2004-11-30 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Vivian Meazza -- Tuesday 30 November 2004 20:30: I use the plib version provided on Martin Spott's site. Very satisfactory and stable it is too, [...] A few of our models do still not work properly with applied crease patch. dhc2 b1900d Citation-II All of them show holes where the

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: datapreferences.xml, 1.161, 1.162

2004-11-30 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Vivian Meazza -- Tuesday 30 November 2004 20:47: Melchior FRANZ wrote: WARNING: ssgLoadAC: Failed to open '/usr/local/share/FlightGear/\ Models/Geometry/Nimitz/nimitz-complex.ac' for reading Fatal error: Failed to load 3D model Just delete -complex Sure. I

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:data

2004-11-30 Thread Vivian Meazza
Martin Spott No, it's just a matter of stability. We don't want FlightGear releases to have to depend on prerelease CVS versions of plib, so we have to wait until the next plib official release. I'm not convinced that this actually is the point. FlightGear has a history of depending

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:datapreferences.xml, 1.161, 1.162

2004-11-30 Thread Vivian Meazza
Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Vivian Meazza -- Tuesday 30 November 2004 20:47: Melchior FRANZ wrote: WARNING: ssgLoadAC: Failed to open '/usr/local/share/FlightGear/\ Models/Geometry/Nimitz/nimitz-complex.ac' for reading Fatal error: Failed to load 3D model

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:data

2004-11-30 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Vivian Meazza wrote: Martin Spott No, it's just a matter of stability. We don't want FlightGear releases to have to depend on prerelease CVS versions of plib, so we have to wait until the next plib official release. I'm not convinced that this actually is the point. FlightGear has a

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:datapreferences.xml, 1.161, 1.162

2004-11-30 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Vivian Meazza -- Tuesday 30 November 2004 23:02: * Melchior FRANZ wrote: [...] we are lacking a couple of textures that were removed. No problem, as long as the carrier is disabled, anyway. I'll check the textures. Disabled - do you mean broken? No, I mean the fact that the nimitz_demo

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:data

2004-11-30 Thread Martin Spott
Curtis L. Olson wrote: We all are busy. Steve is extremely busy. It doesn't hurt to follow up on these things (more than once if needed.) If done in a sensitive way, you can usually accomplish reasonable things with reasonable people. I don't think anyone here is attempting to blame

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:data

2004-11-30 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Curtis L. Olson wrote: Perhaps as a direct suggestion to the immediate issue of the crease patch, we should get more FG people onboard as plib contributors with cvs access so we can make direct contributions and get this fixed? I looked at the developer list of the plib project (

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI

2004-11-23 Thread Richard Bytheway
From: Lee Elliott On Thursday 18 November 2004 21:03, Martin Spott wrote: Lee Elliott wrote: um, yes - the TSR-2 probably isn't the best a/c for carrier stuff. The FDM needs really an overhaul because the take-off performance isn't right - it currently lifts off at a lower speed

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI

2004-11-23 Thread Lee Elliott
On Tuesday 23 November 2004 13:59, Richard Bytheway wrote: From: Lee Elliott On Thursday 18 November 2004 21:03, Martin Spott wrote: Lee Elliott wrote: um, yes - the TSR-2 probably isn't the best a/c for carrier stuff. The FDM needs really an overhaul because the take-off

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI

2004-11-22 Thread Martin Spott
Lee Elliott wrote: On Sunday 21 November 2004 21:58, Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..you forget this plane was made to fight WWIII. ;-). In a nut shell, you've got it. Well, the project started in the late fifties, way past WWII. technical/manufacturing problems (there have been a surprisingly

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI

2004-11-22 Thread Lee Elliott
On Monday 22 November 2004 01:28, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 00:24:38 +, Lee wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sunday 21 November 2004 21:58, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 21:32:12 + (UTC), Martin wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Lee

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI

2004-11-21 Thread Martin Spott
Lee Elliott wrote: I also believe the main gear was designed to tolerate less than perfect strips. Yes, the main gear looks to be very 'robust'. But I still wonder why they paid attention to these features. To my knowledge the TSR-2 was designed for long range and high cruise speed. This sort

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI

2004-11-21 Thread Lee Elliott
On Sunday 21 November 2004 21:58, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 21:32:12 + (UTC), Martin wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Lee Elliott wrote: I also believe the main gear was designed to tolerate less than perfect strips. Yes, the main gear looks to be very

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI

2004-11-19 Thread Lee Elliott
On Thursday 18 November 2004 21:03, Martin Spott wrote: Lee Elliott wrote: um, yes - the TSR-2 probably isn't the best a/c for carrier stuff. The FDM needs really an overhaul because the take-off performance isn't right - it currently lifts off at a lower speed if reheat isn't used :( -

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI

2004-11-18 Thread Vivian Meazza
Martin Spott wrote [...] Did you manage to take off? With a BO105 it's pretty easy, it is feasible with the C172 but for the TSR-2 the strip is too short. I was too lazy to shift the starting position to the beginning of the 'runway', otherwise it _might_ have worked out. So I crashed

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI

2004-11-18 Thread Martin Spott
Vivian Meazza wrote: I don't know. Mathias provides you with a perfectly good carrier-capable aircraft, and you use every other kind ... :-) Well, I'm doing everything in small steps: On the Octane it is a larger undertaking to rebuild FlightGear and after I've finished I'd like to know where

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI

2004-11-18 Thread Lee Elliott
On Thursday 18 November 2004 08:01, Vivian Meazza wrote: Martin Spott wrote [...] Did you manage to take off? With a BO105 it's pretty easy, it is feasible with the C172 but for the TSR-2 the strip is too short. I was too lazy to shift the starting position to the beginning of the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI

2004-11-17 Thread Martin Spott
Melchior FRANZ wrote: It isn't anywhere in the scenery yet -- just in cvs. You have to add it yourself, or replace the saratoga with it. I added this in file $FG_ROOT/Scenery/Terrain/w130n30/w123n37/942057.stg: OBJECT_SHARED Models/Geometry/Nimitz/nimitz.ac -122.590 37.76 -7.0 90 Thanks,

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI

2004-11-17 Thread Vivian Meazza
Martin Spott wrote Melchior FRANZ wrote: It isn't anywhere in the scenery yet -- just in cvs. You have to add it yourself, or replace the saratoga with it. I added this in file $FG_ROOT/Scenery/Terrain/w130n30/w123n37/942057.stg: OBJECT_SHARED Models/Geometry/Nimitz/nimitz.ac -122.590

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AInimitz_demo.xml, NONE, 1.1

2004-11-17 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Vivian Meazza -- Tuesday 16 November 2004 18:06: Melchior FRANZ wrote: OBJECT_SHARED Models/Geometry/Nimitz/nimitz.ac -122.590 37.76 -7.0 90 It should work just with the ai... /ai stuff in my earlier post. Yes. Changed that now. Mathias has put all the necessary stuff here:

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:data/Data/AInimitz_demo.xml, NONE, 1.1

2004-11-17 Thread Vivian Meazza
Melchior FRANZ wrote Mathias has put all the necessary stuff here: ftp://ftp.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Misc_maf/carrier/ The code that he sent me works well, but I haven't tried it from that location yet. I applied all the stuff and it worked very well. My first carrier landing

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI

2004-11-17 Thread Giles Robertson
] Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI Melchior FRANZ wrote: It isn't anywhere in the scenery yet -- just in cvs. You have to add it yourself, or replace the saratoga with it. I added this in file $FG_ROOT/Scenery/Terrain/w130n30/w123n37/942057.stg

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI

2004-11-17 Thread Mathias Frhlich
On Mittwoch 17 November 2004 10:29, Martin Spott wrote: Melchior FRANZ wrote: It isn't anywhere in the scenery yet -- just in cvs. You have to add it yourself, or replace the saratoga with it. I added this in file $FG_ROOT/Scenery/Terrain/w130n30/w123n37/942057.stg: OBJECT_SHARED

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-11-17 Thread Mathias Frhlich
On Dienstag 16 November 2004 18:25, Martin Spott wrote: into CVS is the addition of the Nimitz - no change to any FDM yet. Did I miss a mail ? True. There are many things to do. I would like to have the basic infrastructure in flightgears cvs. This way I can add the code safely to JSBSim's

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AInimitz_demo.xml, NONE, 1.1

2004-11-17 Thread Mathias Fröhlich
On Mittwoch 17 November 2004 11:29, Melchior FRANZ wrote: I applied all the stuff and it worked very well. My first carrier landing with the FA-18A succeeded already. The gear code is great! It's fun to taxi over slopes and actually see the aircraft follow them, rather than strangely sliding

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AInimitz_demo.xml, NONE, 1.1

2004-11-17 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Mathias Fröhlich -- Wednesday 17 November 2004 21:42: On Mittwoch 17 November 2004 11:29, Melchior FRANZ wrote: * I observed one segfault that I hadn't seen before. The bt, however, didn't look like it had anything to do with the new code. I haven't saved the core file but will do so if I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI

2004-11-17 Thread Martin Spott
Mathias Fr??hlich wrote: You will only be able to taxi on the carrier's deck with that JSBSim-dropin.tar.gz from the same ftp location. Well, this statement appears to be maybe mostly, but not entirely correct ;-) Apparently different rules apply when you put the carrier into the scenery:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI

2004-11-17 Thread Mathias Frhlich
On Mittwoch 17 November 2004 22:20, Martin Spott wrote: Mathias Fr??hlich wrote: You will only be able to taxi on the carrier's deck with that JSBSim-dropin.tar.gz from the same ftp location. Well, this statement appears to be maybe mostly, but not entirely correct ;-) Apparently

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AInimitz_demo.xml, NONE, 1.1

2004-11-17 Thread Mathias Fröhlich
Hi, On Mittwoch 17 November 2004 21:52, Melchior FRANZ wrote: Sure. Actually, I do know where it happened. I checked the backtrace, and wasn't thrilled: It was at program exit when freeing property nodes. That's why I didn't really attribute it to the new changes, although I hadn't seen that

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI

2004-11-17 Thread Martin Spott
Mathias Fr??hlich wrote: On Mittwoch 17 November 2004 22:20, Martin Spott wrote: http://document.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/bitmap/FGFS/Carrier_01.jpg [...] Did you manage to take off? With a BO105 it's pretty easy, it is feasible with the C172 but for the TSR-2 the strip is too short. I was

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI

2004-11-17 Thread Mathias Frhlich
On Donnerstag 18 November 2004 00:32, Martin Spott wrote: With a BO105 it's pretty easy, it is feasible with the C172 but for the TSR-2 the strip is too short. I was too lazy to shift the starting position to the beginning of the 'runway', otherwise it _might_ have worked out. So I crashed

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI

2004-11-17 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 08:15:43 +0100, Mathias wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Donnerstag 18 November 2004 00:32, Martin Spott wrote: With a BO105 it's pretty easy, it is feasible with the C172 but for the TSR-2 the strip is too short. I was too lazy to shift the starting position to

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI nimitz_demo.xml, NONE, 1.1

2004-11-16 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Data/AI In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv21401 Added Files: nimitz_demo.xml Log Message: [...] The hook can be extended with the H key, retracted with h. Start flightgear with fgfs --lat=37.688 --lon=-122.683 --heading=180

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI nimitz_demo.xml, NONE, 1.1

2004-11-16 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Martin Spott -- Tuesday 16 November 2004 14:56: * * Mathias Frohlich: The hook can be extended with the H key, retracted with h. Start flightgear with fgfs --lat=37.688 --lon=-122.683 --heading=180 --altitude=71 To be honest: I don't see any carrier. It isn't anywhere in the scenery

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AInimitz_demo.xml, NONE, 1.1

2004-11-16 Thread Vivian Meazza
Melchior FRANZ wrote: To be honest: I don't see any carrier. It isn't anywhere in the scenery yet -- just in cvs. You have to add it yourself, or replace the saratoga with it. I added this in file $FG_ROOT/Scenery/Terrain/w130n30/w123n37/942057.stg: OBJECT_SHARED

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-11-16 Thread Martin Spott
Vivian Meazza wrote: I think you will only see one carrier very close to KSFO. Mathias' code only works for JBSim FDM models, so if you use a YASim model, like the Bo105, you will fall through the deck. From what I've seen on the 'cvslog' list the only change that went into CVS is the

FlightGear on FreeBSD; Was: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-11-16 Thread Martin Spott
Martin Spott wrote: I'll give it a go as soon as I managed to build FG on FreeBSD, Well, OpenAL compiles out of the box and FreeBSD has a plib-1.8.3 package, now I try to configure SimGear. This is what I do: quickstep: 19:25:49 /usr/local/src/SimGear ./configure \ --prefix=/opt/FlightGear

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-11-16 Thread Vivian Meazza
Martin Spott wrote: Sent: 16 November 2004 17:26 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: Vivian Meazza wrote: I think you will only see one carrier very close to KSFO. Mathias' code only works for JBSim FDM models, so if you use a YASim

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-11-16 Thread Martin Spott
Vivian Meazza wrote: Martin Spott wrote: Did I miss a mail ? No - the code is available at: ftp://ftp.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Misc_maf/carrier/ I know, this is _my_ server ;-)) Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are !

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-11-16 Thread Vivian Meazza
Martin Spott wrote: Vivian Meazza wrote: Martin Spott wrote: Did I miss a mail ? No - the code is available at: ftp://ftp.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Misc_maf/carrier/ I know, this is _my_ server ;-)) Yes, of course, I had forgotten. Then I didn't understand the question,

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]CVS: data/Protocolacms.xml, NONE, 1.1

2004-10-17 Thread Norman Vine
Erik Hofman writes: Jon Berndt wrote: Erik Hofman wrote: Add a protocol for the ACMS protocol which seems to be used as an output format for black-box data flight data. This configuration does not work directly since there is no FDM available that reads the accelerations from the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]

2004-10-14 Thread Erik Hofman
Martin Spott wrote: Erik Hofman wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/737/Models In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv23677/Aircraft/737/Models Modified Files: B737-300.ac Log Message: This one includes the smooth shaded 737 and tu154B as well as the adf instrument using the

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: releasesFlightGear-0.9.6.tar.gz, NONE,

2004-10-13 Thread Vivian Meazza
Frederic Bouvier wrote: Sent: 12 October 2004 18:12 To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: releasesFlightGear-0.9.6.tar.gz, NONE, Martin Spott wrote: Curtis L. Olson wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/releases

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-10-13 Thread Martin Spott
Vivian Meazza wrote: I've just downloaded and installed fgfs-0.9.6-20041010 from ftp://ftp.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Win32/. It crashes, cause unknown. However, fgfs-0.9.6-20041009 works very well, using all the same settings, etc. To my impression there's already a 'release' package:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-10-13 Thread Martin Spott
Martin Spott wrote: To my impression there's already a 'release' package: ftp://ftp.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Win32/fgfs-0.9.6-win32.zip Would you mind to try that one ? Did that myself and I can affirm that it works marvellous for me - with the current CVS base package, Martin. --

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: releasesFlightGear-0.9.6.tar.gz, NONE,

2004-10-13 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Vivian Meazza wrote: Frederic Bouvier wrote: Sent: 12 October 2004 18:12 To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: releasesFlightGear-0.9.6.tar.gz, NONE, Martin Spott wrote: Curtis L. Olson wrote: Update of /var/cvs

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-10-13 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Martin Spott wrote: Martin Spott wrote: To my impression there's already a 'release' package: ftp://ftp.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Win32/fgfs-0.9.6-win32.zip Would you mind to try that one ? Did that myself and I can affirm that it works marvellous for me - with the current CVS

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-10-13 Thread Martin Spott
Frederic Bouvier wrote: Martin Spott wrote: Did that myself and I can affirm that it works marvellous for me - with the current CVS base package, Maybe we could report success or failure with the name of the card and related info. There could be a limitation on the number of possible

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-10-13 Thread Vivian Meazza
Martin Spott wrote: Sent: 13 October 2004 09:42 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: Vivian Meazza wrote: I've just downloaded and installed fgfs-0.9.6-20041010 from ftp://ftp.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Win32/. It crashes, cause

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-10-13 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Vivian Meazza wrote: Martin Spott wrote: Sent: 13 October 2004 09:42 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: Vivian Meazza wrote: I've just downloaded and installed fgfs-0.9.6-20041010 from ftp://ftp.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-10-13 Thread Harald JOHNSEN
Frederic Bouvier wrote: Vivian Meazza wrote: Martin Spott wrote: Sent: 13 October 2004 09:42 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: Vivian Meazza wrote: I've just downloaded and installed fgfs-0.9.6-20041010 from ftp://ftp.ihg.uni

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-10-13 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Harald JOHNSEN a écrit : the 'release' binary of fgfs does not launch, it calls MSVCR71D.DLL (not on my system). Sorry about that. A corrected package is here : ftp://ftp.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Win32/fgfs-0.9.6-win32-2.zip The other one is delete Thanks for the report that fortunately

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: releases FlightGear-0.9.6.tar.gz, NONE,

2004-10-12 Thread Martin Spott
Curtis L. Olson wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/releases In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv18174 Added Files: FlightGear-0.9.6.tar.gz Log Message: Official source release for v0.9.6 I'm asking just to find out: Do we all agree that it makes much sense to build the upcoming

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