Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]

2003-12-29 Thread Martin Spott
Andy Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Curtis L. Olson wrote: >> Previously you could type... etc. to >> select an engine. Then '{' and '}' would select the magnetos. >> Finally, "space bar" would kick in the starter motor for as long as it >> was depressed. > > Let me take a look. I presum

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Flightgear-cvslogs]

2004-01-12 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Martin Spott wrote: >>>Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/f16/Models >>>In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv20447 >> >> >>>Modified Files: >>> f16.ac f16.xml >>>Log Message: >>>Add gear animation >> >> >> Woohooo ! > I take this as a compl

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Flightgear-cvslogs]

2004-01-12 Thread Erik Hofman
Martin Spott wrote: Erik Hofman wrote: Martin Spott wrote: Woohooo ! I take this as a compliment. Absolutely - with the gear retracted the F16 looks really 'smart'. I have been waiting all the time for a retractable gear but didn't dare to ask It never hurts to ask. It's just that it probb

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]

2004-02-12 Thread Martin Spott
"Jim Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you put the model back to the nose and use the method that the p51d and the > pa28-161 use (the target offset) you'll look better on the ground. BTW, it appears to me that the P-51 suffers from the same visual mishap as the PA-28 does (does this have t

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]

2004-02-12 Thread Vivian Meazza
Martin Spott asked > Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] > > > "Jim Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > If you put the model back to the nose and use the method > that the p51d > > and the pa28-161 use (the target

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]

2004-03-11 Thread Martin Spott
David Megginson wrote: > Yes: I haven't set the UV explicitly for all the faces yet, so there are > some weird default texture patterns in places -- I'm working through the > plane a little bit at a time so that the task isn't too daunting, but I've > already switched to it as my default aircra

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]

2004-03-11 Thread David Megginson
Martin Spott wrote: As the next step you probably might want to sell your Warrior in favour of an Archer :-)) In retrospect, I wish I'd bought an Archer, since the cost of ownership is virtually identical, but there's a bit more power and useful load when you need it. On balance, though C-FBJO

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]

2004-03-11 Thread Martin Spott
David Megginson wrote: > Most of our training aircraft are already at least minimally IFR equipped > (mode C transponder, gyros, nav radio, VOR) -- typically, though, students > move up to a four-seater for IFR training since it's a little more stable. We don't have two-seaters with gyros at o

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]

2004-03-23 Thread Martin Spott
"Curtis L. Olson" wrote: > Please feel free to forward the announcement to freshmeat. I assume someone has to have a user account at freshmeat, the "Project Admin" for FlightGear on freshmeat is - you guess it - Curt Olson :-) Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]

2004-03-23 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Martin Spott wrote: "Curtis L. Olson" wrote: Please feel free to forward the announcement to freshmeat. I assume someone has to have a user account at freshmeat, the "Project Admin" for FlightGear on freshmeat is - you guess it - Curt Olson :-) Martin. Hmmm, I haven't touched anything

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]

2004-03-23 Thread Martin Spott
"Curtis L. Olson" wrote: > Hmmm, I haven't touched anything at fresh meat for years, would anyone > be willing to take this over? How have recent updates been getting in > there? There must be some person 'owning' the account for the FlightGear project page on freshmeat. The last update was fo

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]

2004-04-28 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman wrote: > This document is just an explanation on using FlightGear with KDE/Arts > enabled. Ah, thanks. I didn't realize this, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! --

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]

2004-08-16 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman wrote: > Martin Spott wrote: > > Erik Hofman wrote: > > > >>Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Docs/InstallGuide/html > >>In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv7474/InstallGuide/html > > > > > >>Modified Files: > >>getstartch2.html > >>Log Message: > >>Reffer to /usr/locla/sha

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]

2004-08-16 Thread Erik Hofman
Martin Spott wrote: BTW, I didn't find your change in the current CVS checout of the base package. Could you tell me the lines you changed ? The *base* package? I don't think anything changed there (I searched for /usr/local/lib in all the documents, and if it didn't show up I didn't change anyth

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]

2004-08-16 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman wrote: > Martin Spott wrote: > > BTW, I didn't find your change in the current CVS checout of the base > > package. Could you tell me the lines you changed ? > The *base* package? I assume the location of the HTML file you changed is somewhere down in the base package. Changes in the

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]

2004-08-16 Thread Norman Vine
Martin Spott writes: > Erik Hofman wrote: > > Martin Spott wrote: > > > > BTW, I didn't find your change in the current CVS checout of the base > > > package. Could you tell me the lines you changed ? > > > The *base* package? > > I assume the location of the HTML file you changed is somewhere down

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]

2004-08-16 Thread Martin Spott
"Norman Vine" wrote: > I think this is the change in question > http://cvs.flightgear.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs/viewcvs.cgi/data/Docs/InstallGuide/html/getstartch2.html.diff?r1=1.3&r2=1.4&cvsroot=FlightGear-0.9&sortby=date Hey, _this_ is really neat a tool ! Thanks for the link, it enabled me to find t

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]

2004-10-14 Thread Erik Hofman
Martin Spott wrote: Erik Hofman wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/737/Models In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv23677/Aircraft/737/Models Modified Files: B737-300.ac Log Message: This one includes the smooth shaded 737 and tu154B as well as the adf instrument using the o

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]

2005-03-31 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman wrote: > Martin Spott wrote: >> that I'm missing the cabin door being coupled to the parking brake as >> it was in your first version ;-) > > No, it's not ... Hmmm, I don't understand: Did you decouple the cabin door from the parking brake intentionally because you thing the couplin

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]

2005-07-06 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman wrote: > 'course it works, it's tested on IRIX :-) Do you actually _run_ FG on IRIX recently or do you just use it for testing the build ? Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! --

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]

2005-07-06 Thread Erik Hofman
Martin Spott wrote: Do you actually _run_ FG on IRIX recently or do you just use it for testing the build ? I can't exactly call it 'running FlightGear' but I do start it once in a while. If we can track down the Nasal problem it actually runs quite well with 3d clouds (first time for big-en

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]

2005-07-07 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman wrote: > Martin Spott wrote: >> >> Solaris needs '$(X_EXTRA_LIBS)' as well to resolve dependencies that >> are introduced by '-lplibnet', > > Does $(opengl_LIBS) work as well? No, -lnsl and -lsocket are required, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who i

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]

2005-07-07 Thread Erik Hofman
Martin Spott wrote: Erik Hofman wrote: Martin Spott wrote: Solaris needs '$(X_EXTRA_LIBS)' as well to resolve dependencies that are introduced by '-lplibnet', Does $(opengl_LIBS) work as well? No, -lnsl and -lsocket are required, I already expected something like that, these are in netw

re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]

2003-06-05 Thread David Megginson
Martin Spott writes: > Hmmm, I've been following the texture changes for quite some time and to my > knowledge these textures have been the most sophisticated ones for this sort > of land coverage that FlightGear has ever seen. > > This is why I simply don't understand why they had to go. Wo

re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]

2003-06-11 Thread David Megginson
Martin Spott writes: > Do you intend to supply a default 'quite windy' scheme for convenience of > those who simply would like to try a sort of "second level in the > game" ? That's too easy. Try --random-wind instead. All the best, David -- David Megginson, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://ww

re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]

2003-06-11 Thread Curtis L. Olson
David Megginson writes: > That's too easy. Try --random-wind instead. I don't see this one listed in --options --verbose ... Curt. -- Curtis Olson IVLab / HumanFIRST Program FlightGear Project Twin Citiescurt 'at' me.umn.edu curt 'at' flightgear.org Minnesota http:/

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]

2003-06-18 Thread Martin Spott
Melchior FRANZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > $ fgfs --lon=-122.40 --lat=37.79 --heading=320 --altitude=500 --aircraft=ufo Thanks, this shows the buildings as expected. Now I understand the matter: The HUD coordinates display degree and minute (the latter with decimals) - not degrees with decimals

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]

2003-06-18 Thread WillyB
On Wednesday 18 June 2003 04:32, Martin Spott wrote: > Melchior FRANZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > $ fgfs --lon=-122.40 --lat=37.79 --heading=320 --altitude=500 > > --aircraft=ufo > > Thanks, this shows the buildings as expected. Now I understand the matter: > The HUD coordinates display degree

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]

2003-07-01 Thread Jon S Berndt
On 1 Jul 2003 17:20:40 GMT Martin Spott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm happy to see those in CVS, I yet have to verify if this breaks build on other platforms. BTW, we have to give notice to Jon about these changes, otherwise he'll revert them on the next JSBSim update. Would anyone commit the fix

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]

2003-07-01 Thread Erik Hofman
Jon S Berndt wrote: On 1 Jul 2003 17:20:40 GMT Martin Spott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm happy to see those in CVS, I yet have to verify if this breaks build on other platforms It's quite straight forward so I don't expect any problems. >> BTW, we have to give notice to Jon about these changes

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]

2003-09-16 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Martin Spott wrote: >> Although this improves the altimeter display in the default aircraft, >> the c310u3a-3d looks a bit strange now at my end: >> >> http://document.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/bitmap/FGFS/Panel_04.png > What depth buffer do you have? I tested

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]

2005-11-24 Thread Martin Spott
"Jon Berndt" wrote: > I *think* I know who did this model. I'll notify/ask him abou tit. Thanks for > noticing the > VRP aspect. This aspect is my favourite one :-) Thanks for speaking up, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-02-12 Thread Martin Spott
"Jim Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > David Megginson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> Martin Spott wrote: >> > At least in the _outside_ views the PA-28 still rotates around its nose >> > after the recent changes, >> >> That seemed funny to me as well, but when I looked from the outside view, it

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-02-12 Thread Andy Ross
Martin Spott wrote: > Jim Wilson wrote: > > If the camera is tracking the nose, then it moves up and down as > > well with the nose. This creates the _illusion_ that the rest of > > the aircraft (and of the scene for that matter) is moving, and the > > nose is remaining stationary when in fact it

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-02-12 Thread Martin Spott
Andy Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Martin Spott wrote: >> Jim Wilson wrote: >> > If the camera is tracking the nose, then it moves up and down as >> > well with the nose. This creates the _illusion_ that the rest of >> > the aircraft (and of the scene for that matter) is moving, and the >> > n

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-02-12 Thread Vivian Meazza
Andy wrote > > > Martin Spott wrote: > > Jim Wilson wrote: > > > If the camera is tracking the nose, then it moves up and down as > > > well with the nose. This creates the _illusion_ that the rest of > > > the aircraft (and of the scene for that matter) is > moving, and the > > > nose is r

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-02-12 Thread Jim Wilson
Martin Spott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > You _might_ be right, but in the case we are talking abouth things are > different. For example use the "Tower view" and zoom enough to get the > details. Take off and stay 100 ft above the ground. Now push the > elevator violently aband you'll notice that

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-02-12 Thread Jim Wilson
Vivian Meazza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > I was only using the CofG (and approximately at that) as a better visual > reference than the nose. I was only concerned to make things look right. I'm > sure that the FDMs are quite correct, or the models wouldn't fly very well, > if at all. I take it the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-02-12 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 19:50:48 - "Jim Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You actually want to be very exact about matching the model to the FDM origin. ... Jim (or someone ... *anyone*): Could you summarize the argument taking place here? I seem to only be getting parts of it - I guess I did

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-02-12 Thread Martin Spott
"Jim Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Trust me, I've been all over every line of the viewer code. You aren't really > seeing what you think you are. It just looks that way. Jim, do you want to tell me I'm blind ? I must admit that I probably never looked at the code but I can assure you tha

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-02-12 Thread Martin Spott
"Jon S Berndt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there now a difference in the way that JSBSim and YASim match up > the 3D model with the FDM? No, the discussion is only about placement of the 3D model vs. some FDM reference point, I think (but I'm not absolutely shure if there _might_ be a hidden

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-02-12 Thread Josh Babcock
This has all got me thinking a bit. This subject seems to come up quite a bit, and frankly I have found it a dificult problem too. In addition, there are some related things that can get hard as well like placing the wheels right on the ground, and getting the landing gear elements for wingti

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-02-12 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 15:36:13 -0500 Josh Babcock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This has all got me thinking a bit. This subject seems to come up quite a bit, and frankly I have found it a dificult problem too. In addition, there are some related things that can get hard as well like placing the w

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-03-22 Thread Martin Spott
"Jim Wilson" wrote: > Martin Spott said: >> I'm sorry to say this but I can't resist to note that some of the >> changes in your patch reverted David's "the PA-28 rotates around it's >> nose" corrections. > > I'm not aware of any difference of opinion Martin, but I will look into what > you descr

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-03-22 Thread Mathias Fröhlich
Hi, On Montag, 22. MÃrz 2004 12:53, Martin Spott wrote: > "Jim Wilson" wrote: > > Martin Spott said: > >> I'm sorry to say this but I can't resist to note that some of the > >> changes in your patch reverted David's "the PA-28 rotates around it's > >> nose" corrections. > > > > I'm not aware of a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-03-25 Thread Martin Spott
Melchior FRANZ wrote: > - texturing (no idea which livree; certainly not ADAC ;-) I'd give a strong vote for something civilian, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- __

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-08-17 Thread Martin Spott
Melchior FRANZ wrote: > * Martin Spott -- Tuesday 17 August 2004 11:09: > > In this context an idea comes to my mind: Would'nt it be useful to let > > 'metar' honour the respective parameters in a ~/.fgfsrc file (proxy > > settings for example) in the same the way, 'fgfs' does !? > Useful?yes

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-08-17 Thread Martin Spott
Melchior FRANZ wrote: > > As far as I've learnt meteo stuff (I have my theoretical test wednesday > > morning :-/ CAVOC translates into "visibility 10 km (~ 7 miles) or > > greater and no clouds below 5000 ft GND". I thought, "clear skies" is > > being abbreviated by SKC, > > Sure. Don't be so

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-08-17 Thread Martin Spott
Melchior FRANZ wrote: > * Martin Spott -- Tuesday 17 August 2004 12:24: > > vpngw: 12:07:27 ~> bin/metar -v EDLN > > INPUT: 2004/08/17 08:50 > > EDLN 170850Z VRB03KT CAVOK 22/17 Q1008 > > METAR Report ^ > > > > [...] > > Sky condition: clear skies > >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-08-19 Thread Martin Spott
Melchior FRANZ wrote: > * Martin Spott -- Tuesday 17 August 2004 15:28: > > I just realized you already calculate the rel. humidity from > > temperature and dewpoint. You could calculate the cloud base from these > > two numbers and the airport elevation as well - at least our instructor > > taught

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-08-19 Thread Martin Spott
Melchior FRANZ wrote: > * Martin Spott -- Thursday 19 August 2004 13:16: > > Yes, the dew point represents the temperature, when humidity > > precipitates. In wet adiabatic conditions, which are likely to > > predominate, temperature decreases 1 degree Celsius per 100 m altitude. > > Now you can c

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-10-13 Thread Martin Spott
"Vivian Meazza" wrote: > I've just downloaded and installed fgfs-0.9.6-20041010 from > ftp://ftp.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Win32/. It crashes, cause unknown. > However, fgfs-0.9.6-20041009 works very well, using all the same settings, > etc. To my impression there's already a 'release' packa

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-10-13 Thread Martin Spott
Martin Spott wrote: > To my impression there's already a 'release' package: > > ftp://ftp.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Win32/fgfs-0.9.6-win32.zip > > Would you mind to try that one ? Did that myself and I can affirm that it works marvellous for me - with the current CVS base package, Martin. -

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-10-13 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Martin Spott wrote: > Martin Spott wrote: > > > To my impression there's already a 'release' package: > > > > ftp://ftp.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Win32/fgfs-0.9.6-win32.zip > > > > Would you mind to try that one ? > > Did that myself and I can affirm that it works marvellous for me - with > the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-10-13 Thread Martin Spott
Frederic Bouvier wrote: > Martin Spott wrote: > > Did that myself and I can affirm that it works marvellous for me - with > > the current CVS base package, > > Maybe we could report success or failure with the name of the card > and related info. There could be a limitation on the number of possi

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-10-13 Thread Vivian Meazza
Martin Spott wrote: > Sent: 13 October 2004 09:42 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: > > "Vivian Meazza" wrote: > > > I've just downloaded and installed fgfs-0.9.6-20041010 from > > ftp://ftp.ihg.

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-10-13 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Vivian Meazza wrote: > > > Martin Spott wrote: > > Sent: 13 October 2004 09:42 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: > > > > "Vivian Meazza" wrote: > > > > > I've just down

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-10-13 Thread Harald JOHNSEN
Frederic Bouvier wrote: Vivian Meazza wrote: Martin Spott wrote: Sent: 13 October 2004 09:42 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: "Vivian Meazza" wrote: I've just downloaded and installed fgfs-0.9.6-20041010 from ft

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-10-13 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Harald JOHNSEN a écrit : the 'release' binary of fgfs does not launch, it calls MSVCR71D.DLL (not on my system). Sorry about that. A corrected package is here : ftp://ftp.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Win32/fgfs-0.9.6-win32-2.zip The other one is delete Thanks for the report that fortunately cam

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-11-16 Thread Martin Spott
"Vivian Meazza" wrote: > I think you will only see one carrier very close to KSFO. Mathias' code only > works for JBSim FDM models, so if you use a YASim model, like the Bo105, you > will fall through the deck. >From what I've seen on the 'cvslog' list the only change that went into CVS is the ad

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-11-16 Thread Vivian Meazza
Martin Spott wrote: > Sent: 16 November 2004 17:26 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: > > "Vivian Meazza" wrote: > > > I think you will only see one carrier very close to KSFO. Mathias' code > only

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-11-16 Thread Martin Spott
"Vivian Meazza" wrote: > Martin Spott wrote: > > Did I miss a mail ? > > No - the code is available at: > > ftp://ftp.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Misc_maf/carrier/ I know, this is _my_ server ;-)) Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! --

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-11-16 Thread Vivian Meazza
Martin Spott wrote: > "Vivian Meazza" wrote: > > Martin Spott wrote: > > > > Did I miss a mail ? > > > > No - the code is available at: > > > > ftp://ftp.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Misc_maf/carrier/ > > I know, this is _my_ server ;-)) > Yes, of course, I had forgotten. Then I didn't unders

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-11-17 Thread Mathias FrÃhlich
On Dienstag 16 November 2004 18:25, Martin Spott wrote: > into CVS is the addition of the Nimitz - no change to any FDM yet. > Did I miss a mail ? True. There are many things to do. I would like to have the basic infrastructure in flightgears cvs. This way I can add the code safely to JSBSim's c

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:data

2004-11-30 Thread Martin Spott
David Megginson wrote: > On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 18:40:53 -, Vivian Meazza > No, it's just a matter of stability. We don't want FlightGear > releases to have to depend on prerelease CVS versions of plib, so we > have to wait until the next plib official release. I'm not convinced that this actua

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:data

2004-11-30 Thread Vivian Meazza
Martin Spott > > > No, it's just a matter of stability. We don't want FlightGear > > releases to have to depend on prerelease CVS versions of plib, so we > > have to wait until the next plib official release. > > I'm not convinced that this actually is the point. FlightGear has a > history of d

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:data

2004-11-30 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Vivian Meazza wrote: Martin Spott No, it's just a matter of stability. We don't want FlightGear releases to have to depend on prerelease CVS versions of plib, so we have to wait until the next plib official release. I'm not convinced that this actually is the point. FlightGear has a hist

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:data

2004-11-30 Thread Martin Spott
"Curtis L. Olson" wrote: > We all are busy. Steve is extremely busy. It doesn't hurt to follow up > on these things (more than once if needed.) If done in a "sensitive" > way, you can usually accomplish reasonable things with reasonable people. I don't think anyone here is attempting to blam

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2004-11-30 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Curtis L. Olson wrote: > Perhaps as a direct suggestion to the immediate issue of the crease > patch, we should get more FG people onboard as plib contributors with > cvs access so we can make direct contributions and get this fixed? I looked at the developer list of the plib project ( http://sou

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2005-05-06 Thread Martin Spott
Martin Spott wrote: > I found a third location: Great, with the patches I posted these days and an additional '-lpthread' to the final linker run we're up to date with Solaris portability, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are !

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2005-05-07 Thread Erik Hofman
Martin Spott wrote: Martin Spott wrote: I found a third location: Great, with the patches I posted these days and an additional '-lpthread' to the final linker run we're up to date with Solaris portability, All these patches have been committed now. I still have to look into the -pthread issue.

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2005-05-08 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman wrote: > All these patches have been committed now. I still have to look into the > -pthread issue. Oh, there's no hurry ! This weekend I replaced the Sparc20 on my internet gateway with an Ultra2. While I successfully renewed the whole OS core for the 64-bit architecture (kernel, ke

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2005-09-15 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman wrote: > Martin Spott wrote: >> Did you actually manage to compile current OpenAL CVS on IRIX ? > > Sure, just make sure there are no old headers (and library) installed > somewhere and do a fresh make (dist)clean and make install. No such message as this one ? cc-1020 cc: ERROR Fi

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2005-09-16 Thread Erik Hofman
Martin Spott wrote: No such message as this one ? cc-1020 cc: ERROR File = arch/irix/iris.c, Line = 415 The identifier "AL_FORMAT_QUAD8_LOKI" is undefined. case AL_FORMAT_QUAD8_LOKI: Ah, yes, now that you mention it. You will need to add "#include " right after AL/al.h Erik ___

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2005-09-16 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman wrote: > You will need to add "#include " right after AL/al.h Yep, looks good adding to that I suggest to replace "alut.h" with "alext.h" or simply remove it in simgear/sound/sample_openal.hxx, line 50, maybe line 47 as well as alut now lives in a separate tree in the OpenAL sou

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2005-09-16 Thread Martin Spott
Martin Spott wrote: > Yep, looks good adding to that I suggest to replace "alut.h" with > "alext.h" or simply remove it in simgear/sound/sample_openal.hxx, line > 50, maybe line 47 as well as alut now lives in a separate tree in the > OpenAL source, O.k., I see, this is the wrong approach .

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2003-06-06 Thread Martin Spott
David Megginson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Martin Spott writes: > > This is why I simply don't understand why they had to go. Would anyone be so > > kind to give me an unbiased explanation ? Did Erik fail to follow > > differentiation in the available land cover data or has anything else been

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2003-06-06 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Martin Spott writes: > David Megginson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Martin Spott writes: > > > > This is why I simply don't understand why they had to go. Would anyone be so > > > kind to give me an unbiased explanation ? Did Erik fail to follow > > > differentiation in the available land cov

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2003-06-06 Thread Martin Spott
"Curtis L. Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Martin Spott writes: >> The current state still does not make much sense to me, > Originally we had 5 unique crop textures and 5 corresponding material > property entries. > On April 25, those 5 material property entries were pointed at 3 > nearly i

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2003-06-11 Thread Martin Spott
David Megginson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Martin Spott writes: > > Do you intend to supply a default 'quite windy' scheme for convenience of > > those who simply would like to try a sort of "second level in the > > game" ? > That's too easy. Try --random-wind instead. I already do so ;-)

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2003-10-16 Thread Martin Spott
"Jim Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Martin Spott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> Oh, _that_ one is really nice. Although the heli is really very well >> behaved (even with mouse any keyboard control I find it pretty easy to >> fly _and_land_) I'm shure that crash detection should definitely be

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2003-10-16 Thread Curtis L. Olson
David Megginson writes: > Martin Spott writes: > > > O.k., I'll try tomorrow. I'm curious why it didn't get triggered today. > > BTW, for those who never flew a heli: If you chose to stand outside > > then take a position on the left behind the helicopter. This makes the > > first steps lots e

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2003-10-16 Thread David Megginson
Martin Spott writes: > O.k., I'll try tomorrow. I'm curious why it didn't get triggered today. > BTW, for those who never flew a heli: If you chose to stand outside > then take a position on the left behind the helicopter. This makes the > first steps lots easier, There are still some problem

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2003-10-16 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 17:15:02 -0400 David Megginson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There are still some problems we need to work out. For example, if you set the wind to 0 and turn off the engine, the helicopter still slides backwards and turns -- we'll have to figure out why there are forces acting o

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2003-10-16 Thread David Megginson
Curtis L. Olson writes: > It also loops quite easily ... not saying that was the first thing I > tried. How do you run the collective? How about yaw control? The > rudder seemed to act more like an aerodynamic rudder ... not that I > know anything about how a helo is supposed to fly ... Tr

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2003-10-16 Thread David Megginson
Jon S Berndt writes: > On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 17:15:02 -0400 > David Megginson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >There are still some problems we need to work out. For example, if > >you set the wind to 0 and turn off the engine, the helicopter still > >slides backwards and turns -- we'll have

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2003-10-16 Thread Jim Wilson
David Megginson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Martin Spott writes: > > > O.k., I'll try tomorrow. I'm curious why it didn't get triggered today. > > BTW, for those who never flew a heli: If you chose to stand outside > > then take a position on the left behind the helicopter. This makes the > >

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2003-10-16 Thread Jim Wilson
"Curtis L. Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > It also loops quite easily ... not saying that was the first thing I > tried. How do you run the collective? How about yaw control? The > rudder seemed to act more like an aerodynamic rudder ... not that I > know anything about how a helo is suppose

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2003-10-16 Thread Martin Spott
David Megginson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There are still some problems we need to work out. For example, if > you set the wind to 0 and turn off the engine, the helicopter still > slides backwards and turns -- we'll have to figure out why there are > forces acting on it. To test: > > fgfs

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2003-10-17 Thread Innis Cunningham
Hi Jim While mapping the collective to the throttle would work. It is a bit like mapping a variable pitch prop to a throttle.In most helo's I worked on the throttle was opened wide and then the collective was pulled on. It is very interesting to see the look on the passengers faces when the pilo

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2003-10-17 Thread Jim Wilson
Innis Cunningham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Hi Jim > While mapping the collective to the throttle would work. It is a bit like > mapping a variable pitch prop to a throttle.In most helo's I worked on the > throttle was opened wide and then the collective was pulled on. > It is very interesting

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2003-10-17 Thread David Megginson
Innis Cunningham writes: > While mapping the collective to the throttle would work. It is a > bit like mapping a variable pitch prop to a throttle. It's just a terminology problem, not a flight-modelling problem -- it sucks using /controls/engines/engine[0]/throttle (or whatever) to manipulate

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2003-10-17 Thread Maik Justus
Hi Curtis L. Olson wrote: It also loops quite easily ... not saying that was the first thing I tried. How do you run the collective? How about yaw control? The rudder seemed to act more like an aerodynamic rudder ... not that I know anything about how a helo is supposed to fly ... Curt. The b

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2003-10-17 Thread Maik Justus
Hi Innis, Innis Cunningham wrote: Hi Jim While mapping the collective to the throttle would work. It is a bit like mapping a variable pitch prop to a throttle.In most helo's I worked on the throttle was opened wide and then the collective was pulled on. On most modern helos the engine is co

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2003-10-18 Thread Innis Cunningham
Hi Jim Sorry mate the last time I worked on choppers was 30 years ago. But what I could suggest is to download a MSFS panel you like and convert it for FG use. I have found that you can use the artwork of panels made for FS98 and then add the instruments from FG. While for a complete panel for FG

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2003-10-18 Thread Lee Elliott
On Saturday 18 October 2003 13:03, Innis Cunningham wrote: > Hi Jim > Sorry mate the last time I worked on choppers was 30 years ago. > But what I could suggest is to download a MSFS panel you like and convert it > for FG use. > I have found that you can use the artwork of panels made for FS98 an

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2003-10-18 Thread Innis Cunningham
Hi Maik Maik Justus writes Hi Innis, > The tail rotor could be tied to the rudder but it should give equal rotation around its axis regardless of the forward speed or lack of it of the helo. Hm. I hink this is only correct for acrobatic (3D) model-helos with a (so called) heading lock gyro, b

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2003-10-18 Thread Innis Cunningham
Lee Elliott writes> Hi Lee You are absolutely right. But I was just making people aware that some parts of the MSFS panels can be used in FG with little effort. What problem would there be if the readme for a panel xml file said that it would work with a certain MSFS background.As long as the

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2003-10-18 Thread Mally
> My understanding of the tail rotor is to counteract the torque of the main > rotor and to rotate the helo around its Z axis in either a CW or CCW > direction depending on the lift supplied by the tail rotor. > Loss of a tail rotor more than likely will result in loss of the helo unless > the pi

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2003-10-18 Thread Mally
> You are absolutely right. But I was just making people aware that some parts > of the MSFS panels can be used in FG with little effort. > What problem would there be if the readme for a panel xml file said that it > would work with a certain MSFS background.As long as the person uses it > themsel

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