Re: [Flightgear-devel] October $250 Flight Gear Developers

2009-10-19 Thread Durk Talsma
On Sunday 18 October 2009 10:41:19 am George Patterson wrote: > On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 4:59 PM, syd adams > wrote: > > Yup. > > Apparently there's no limit to the depths they will sink. > > But they keep bobbing to the surface. :-/ > Speaking of prizes and sweepstakes: Can we nominate this for t

Re: [Flightgear-devel] October $250 Flight Gear Developers

2009-10-18 Thread George Patterson
On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 4:59 PM, syd adams > wrote: > Yup. > Apparently there's no limit to the depths they will sink. > > But they keep bobbing to the surface. :-/ -- Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Confe

Re: [Flightgear-devel] October $250 Flight Gear Developers

2009-10-17 Thread Gijs de Rooy
to my earlier personal request. Regards, Gijs > Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 21:27:48 + > From: aeitsch...@yahoo.de > To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] October $250 Flight Gear Developers > > Hi@ all, > > New copyright violat

Re: [Flightgear-devel] October $250 Flight Gear Developers

2009-10-17 Thread Durk Talsma
On Sunday 18 October 2009 07:19:41 am Tom P wrote: > And what about the hyper-deceiving one? > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NGwlwPcsBQ > > An advertisement for Flight Pro Sim, which is based on the > freely-available and open source FlightGear, using a video of Microsoft > FlightSim X !! > >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] October $250 Flight Gear Developers

2009-10-17 Thread syd adams
Yup. Apparently there's no limit to the depths they will sink. -- Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skil

Re: [Flightgear-devel] October $250 Flight Gear Developers

2009-10-17 Thread Tom P
And what about the hyper-deceiving one? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NGwlwPcsBQ An advertisement for Flight Pro Sim, which is based on the freely-available and open source FlightGear, using a video of Microsoft FlightSim X !! Tom Heiko Schulz wrote: > Hi@ all, > > New copyright violati

Re: [Flightgear-devel] October $250 Flight Gear Developers

2009-10-17 Thread Heiko Schulz
Hi@ all, New copyright violations regadring FlightProSim... Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDTYPSW_P3w&feature=related This is my video, he used it without permission. He user other videos which seems to be stolen Mail to Youtube is under way... I'm angry! HHs -

Re: [Flightgear-devel] October $250 Flight Gear Developers

2009-10-12 Thread Durk Talsma
Hi Heiko, On Tuesday 06 October 2009 08:16:11 am Heiko Schulz wrote: > > That's one the "best" article I found about ProFlightSim: > http://ezinearticles.com/?Flight-Pro-Sim-is-the-Best-Simulator&id=2813712 > Interesting, I actually decided to leave a comment behind, in response to this article,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] October $250 Flight Gear Developers

2009-10-06 Thread Tim Moore
On 10/06/2009 03:14 PM, Curtis Olson wrote: > On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 7:57 AM, Tim Moore > wrote: > > "3D panel" does not mean that you need a 3D view of the cockpit to > see the > instruments. > > > I guess I've never seen an example of anyone configuring

Re: [Flightgear-devel] October $250 Flight Gear Developers

2009-10-06 Thread Rob Shearman, Jr.
Curt Olson: "{...} purely from a humorous/hypothetical perspective: if anyone understands how adsense work, any time one of us clicks on his ad, it costs him money, but google has very sophisticated filters to catch this any many other kinds of abuse so a single person can't do much on that front.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] October $250 Flight Gear Developers

2009-10-06 Thread Detlef Faber
Am Dienstag, den 06.10.2009, 13:58 -0500 schrieb Curtis Olson: > On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Detlef Faber > wrote: > The german section of Openoffice.org contains such a warning > too. I > would really appreciate this. And we could stop the > advertising of this

Re: [Flightgear-devel] October $250 Flight Gear Developers

2009-10-06 Thread Curtis Olson
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Detlef Faber wrote: > The german section of Openoffice.org contains such a warning too. I > would really appreciate this. And we could stop the advertising of this > product on the FlightGear site. > I can look into it, but I'll say this purely from a humorous/hyp

Re: [Flightgear-devel] October $250 Flight Gear Developers

2009-10-06 Thread Detlef Faber
Am Dienstag, den 06.10.2009, 06:45 -0500 schrieb Jon S. Berndt: > > Hi, > > > > To answer Jon S. Berndt here I like the idea of a competetion and I'm > > sure everyone else here too. Even there is only a TShirt to win... > > > > But I don't like when this competetion is made by a man who apparent

Re: [Flightgear-devel] October $250 Flight Gear Developers

2009-10-06 Thread Detlef Faber
Am Dienstag, den 06.10.2009, 15:44 + schrieb Heiko Schulz: > Hello, > > > > This has been mentioned several times, but if you look on > > the main page of > > their web site, there is this: > > > > "This is a commercial adaption of the world renown flight > > Gear project. > > Further inform

Re: [Flightgear-devel] October $250 Flight Gear Developers

2009-10-06 Thread Heiko Schulz
Hello, > This has been mentioned several times, but if you look on > the main page of > their web site, there is this: > > "This is a commercial adaption of the world renown flight > Gear project. > Further information available in our Developers Area" Link? I didn't found this... > > I do > t

Re: [Flightgear-devel] October $250 Flight Gear Developers

2009-10-06 Thread Curtis Olson
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 7:57 AM, Tim Moore wrote: > "3D panel" does not mean that you need a 3D view of the cockpit to see the > instruments. > I guess I've never seen an example of anyone configuring an orthographic view in FlightGear, but I'm sure it's doable. Do we have configuration level su

Re: [Flightgear-devel] October $250 Flight Gear Developers

2009-10-06 Thread Tim Moore
On 10/06/2009 02:41 PM, Thomas Betka wrote: > > > On Oct 6, 2009, at 3:19 AM, AJ MacLeod wrote: >>> >> >> We understood and understand perfectly what you were trying to >> achieve, and >> having plenty of experience in the task knew that it was not only >> possible to >> achieve it with "3D"

Re: [Flightgear-devel] October $250 Flight Gear Developers

2009-10-06 Thread Tim Moore
On 10/06/2009 01:51 PM, Curtis Olson wrote: > On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 3:19 AM, AJ MacLeod wrote: > > On Monday 05 October 2009 22:34:01 Thomas Betka wrote: > >I really didn't hear many > > people even mention the IFR training opportunity that is being missed > > with FG; shoot, most

Re: [Flightgear-devel] October $250 Flight Gear Developers

2009-10-06 Thread Thomas Betka
On Oct 6, 2009, at 3:19 AM, AJ MacLeod wrote: >> > > We understood and understand perfectly what you were trying to > achieve, and > having plenty of experience in the task knew that it was not only > possible to > achieve it with "3D" instruments, but that it would be easier, > quicker and

Re: [Flightgear-devel] October $250 Flight Gear Developers

2009-10-06 Thread Curtis Olson
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 3:19 AM, AJ MacLeod wrote: > On Monday 05 October 2009 22:34:01 Thomas Betka wrote: > >I really didn't hear many > > people even mention the IFR training opportunity that is being missed > > with FG; shoot, most people I talked to 1-2 years ago (when I was > > trying to lear

Re: [Flightgear-devel] October $250 Flight Gear Developers

2009-10-06 Thread Jon S. Berndt
> Hi, > > To answer Jon S. Berndt here I like the idea of a competetion and I'm > sure everyone else here too. Even there is only a TShirt to win... > > But I don't like when this competetion is made by a man who apparently > try earn money with others work! If he would just say hey, this is > Fl

Re: [Flightgear-devel] October $250 Flight Gear Developers

2009-10-06 Thread AJ MacLeod
On Monday 05 October 2009 22:34:01 Thomas Betka wrote: >I really didn't hear many > people even mention the IFR training opportunity that is being missed > with FG; shoot, most people I talked to 1-2 years ago (when I was > trying to learn how to modify the 2D panel in the 172) couldn't > understan

Re: [Flightgear-devel] October $250 Flight Gear Developers

2009-10-05 Thread Heiko Schulz
Hi, Curtis, well we went quite offtopic, the real topic was, why some people don't want "Taylor's" ( is this his real name?) competition... ;-) I just was surprised as I understood you said that we aren't far away from fully FAA-certificable, but I could remember from older dicussions the thin

Re: [Flightgear-devel] October $250 Flight Gear Developers

2009-10-05 Thread Thomas Betka
The project my company is working on will use FG v1.9.1 (with additions) to seek FAA Certification. But there are several things lacking in the "production" release--the instructor's station is the main thing. I haven't read the FAA Advisory Circular that governs certification of these thin

Re: [Flightgear-devel] October $250 Flight Gear Developers

2009-10-05 Thread Curtis Olson
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Heiko Schulz wrote: > So it is just the GPS? Or still more? > As with all things, it's maybe not that simple. We can already plug in a real gps and run with that. I've messed with a Garmin 295 and a Garmin 400 (which means we should be able to support a real G4

Re: [Flightgear-devel] October $250 Flight Gear Developers

2009-10-05 Thread Heiko Schulz
Hi, O.k. there was one misunderstood from my site regarding the pieces... > I think we are pretty close.  So it is just the GPS? Or still more? Pretty close does not mean in my eyes that we are FAA-certificable yet- But woulden't be that a nice goal to be? I think John Denker did already a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] October $250 Flight Gear Developers

2009-10-05 Thread Curtis Olson
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Heiko Schulz wrote: > To be more clear: > Quote from http://www.x-plane.com/pg_levels.html > > "In other words, the copy of X-Plane that can be purchased right here for > under $50 has all the features required for FAA certification built in--you > just have to b

Re: [Flightgear-devel] October $250 Flight Gear Developers

2009-10-05 Thread Heiko Schulz
Hi Curtis, > > If you read that X-Plane is FAA certified, they certainly > mean that X-Plane was one component in an FAA certified > simulator, not that the software itself is FAA certified, > however they don't work very hard to make that > distinction clear to their users. To be more clear: Quo

Re: [Flightgear-devel] October $250 Flight Gear Developers

2009-10-05 Thread Curtis Olson
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 7:28 AM, Heiko Schulz wrote: > I really would like to admit your sentences. > But - on their website I can't see any reference, hint or link to Project > FlightGear. > > But I see that he earns money with our work. I do know that this allowed > under or licence. But is this

Re: [Flightgear-devel] October $250 Flight Gear Developers

2009-10-05 Thread Heiko Schulz
Hi Jon, > > Before > you guys have a knee-jerk response that poisons the > atmosphere you need to take > a deep breath, re-read the statement from FlightProSim, and > make some > constructive remarks – and it might not hurt to > re-read the license under > which we operate. > >   > > First, >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] October $250 Flight Gear Developers

2009-10-05 Thread Jon S. Berndt
09 6:40 AM To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] October $250 Flight Gear Developers I totally agree with Peter Clemenko, that it would be an error to accept any money from FPS. It is not an fair sponsor and the way the money will be divided will more create a divide be

Re: [Flightgear-devel] October $250 Flight Gear Developers

2009-10-05 Thread ArthurX
I totally agree with Peter Clemenko, that it would be an error to accept any money from FPS. It is not an fair sponsor and the way the money will be divided will more create a divide between the developers than build it into a team of freely cooperating people. Greetings Arthur On Mon, Oct 5, 200

Re: [Flightgear-devel] October $250 Flight Gear Developers

2009-10-05 Thread Peter Clemenko
With all due respect FPS, it would be better off if you were to submit any modified code you make back INTO FGFS. adhering to the GPL V2. and for the FG devs, if FG is under the v3, ether switch it to LGPL or the v2, as that way you have some control over your code. I really personally don't like t

Re: [Flightgear-devel] October $250 Flight Gear Developers Draw---

2009-10-04 Thread FlightProSim.com
Hi All, To answer your questions; Jon, yes this is the intention to help build FG more, as we can not code in house hopefully our contribution of money will help the project. Martin & Am, everything on the site is sold as per the conditions of the GPL, we go further by having a develo

Re: [Flightgear-devel] October $250 Flight Gear Developers Draw---

2009-10-03 Thread Detlef Faber
gt; > > > From: FlightProSim.com [mailto:sa...@flightprosim.com] > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 5:30 PM > To: flightgear-de...@lists.sf.net > Subject: [Flightgear-devel] October $250 Flight Gear Developers > Draw--- > > > > > Hi All, > > > > To fur

Re: [Flightgear-devel] October $250 Flight Gear Developers Draw---

2009-10-02 Thread Martin Spott
"Jon S. Berndt" wrote: > I like this idea! It's a well-intentioned way to support the community. How do you know that they're not just trying to lull people after their recent 'incidents' ? Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -

Re: [Flightgear-devel] October $250 Flight Gear Developers Draw---

2009-10-02 Thread Jon S. Berndt
I like this idea! It's a well-intentioned way to support the community. Jon From: FlightProSim.com [mailto:sa...@flightprosim.com] Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 5:30 PM To: flightgear-de...@lists.sf.net Subject: [Flightgear-devel] October $250 Flight Gear Developers Draw---

Re: [Flightgear-devel] October $250 Flight Gear Developers Draw---

2009-10-02 Thread Alexis Bory - xiii
mp... FlightProSim.com a écrit : > > Hi All, > > To further enhance the Flight Gear project we would like to begin a > monthly developer’s competition. > > We are asking you to give ideas for what could get developed over the > next month…. > > This must be attainable, measurable and worth g

[Flightgear-devel] October $250 Flight Gear Developers Draw---

2009-10-01 Thread FlightProSim.com
Hi All, To further enhance the Flight Gear project we would like to begin a monthly developer's competition. We are asking you to give ideas for what could get developed over the next month.. This must be attainable, measurable and worth getting created. A couple of rules: 1.