Hi,
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 1:27 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.mewrote:
As is available on the page referenced in every communication about the
removal of fallback?
https://live.gnome.org/ThreePointSeven/Features/DropOrFixFallbackMode
If people skip reading it intentionally,
2012/11/15 Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org
On Thu, November 15, 2012 2:39 pm, William Jon McCann wrote:
Hi Karen,
I think these are good suggestions. But I think it would be a mistake to
leave this critical responsibility to a committee of volunteers. One of
the
many challenges we face
On Mon, 2012-11-19 at 17:57 +0100, Stéphane Raimbault wrote:
It's not acceptable after 3 iterations to ignore/reject the most
frequent complaints (I don't want to list them here...).
I don't believe in design by committee.
Software development is not a popularity contest.
Also, some
On 11/19/2012 08:57 AM, Stéphane Raimbault wrote:
If we need a marketing director to convince people to use GNOME, we failed.
This is a cute statement, but is it really true?
The people that could most benefit from our choice to build a simple to
use system are those that are least likely to
Hi,
I hope it's slightly better handled than Emily last 2 posts, which
managed to say that the removal of fallback was badly communicated (!)
without details of what was done wrong,
I think it would have made a hell of a lot more sense to announce that
there were significant improvements
Em Sun, 2012-11-18 às 23:39 -0600, meg ford escreveu:
Hi,
I hope it's slightly better handled than Emily last 2 posts,
which
managed to say that the removal of fallback was badly
communicated (!)
without details of what was done
I think that overall, what GNU could do to change it is figure out what are
the LLVM guys doing to be such an attractive compiler platform compared to
GCC. LLVM is a compiler platform, it gives you many APIs and reusable
components that you can use at different levels,
We might be
On Thu, 2012-11-15 at 23:54 -0500, Chris Leonard wrote:
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 6:25 PM, Bastien Nocera had...@hadess.net wrote:
On Thu, 2012-11-15 at 08:40 -0500, Chris Leonard wrote:
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 5:39 AM, Alan Cox a...@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk wrote:
If you've got a fast CPU and
Hi,
On 11/16/2012 11:43 AM, Bastien Nocera wrote:
On Thu, 2012-11-15 at 23:54 -0500, Chris Leonard wrote:
http://build.laptop.org/13.1.0/os11/xo-1/31011o0.packages.txt
http://build.laptop.org/13.1.0/os11/xo-4/31011o4.packages.txt
Do they have OpenGL acceleration available? You say that we
If we call it Director of Marketing we will encourage that person,
and ourselves, to adopt success as the primary value and communicate
that value to others.
Thus, I suggest calling it Director of Communication
or Director of Public Activism.
--
Dr Richard Stallman
President, Free Software
Well, have come you forget Radeon free driver,
I didn't forget, I remembered -- that ATI's driver requires nonfree
firmware blobs. At least that was true about 4 years ago. I tried to
recruit someone to reverse-engineer it, but never did.
Would you like to help?
b) ATI/AMD Radeon -
On Thu, 2012-11-15 at 22:44 -0800, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 11:39 AM, William Jon McCann
william.jon.mcc...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Karen,
I think these are good suggestions. But I think it would be a
mistake to leave this critical
Hi Richard,
On Fri, 2012-11-16 at 10:57 -0500, Richard Stallman wrote:
I am glad that this does work -- but why must it use LLVM? Is there
something in GNOME that is not designed to compile with the GNU
compiler collection?
Yes, the Mesa 3D project uses LLVM to dynamically generate machine
On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 8:16 AM, Shaun McCance sha...@gnome.org wrote:
On Thu, 2012-11-15 at 22:44 -0800, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:
Let me add one other position. We need to hire another sysadmin
person. Along the same community support, we need to also be able to
have the
Yes, the Mesa 3D project uses LLVM to dynamically generate machine code.
As I understand it, one of the driving factors in the technology choice
here was that the compiler is structured as a set of libraries with an
API - in contrast to how GCC was historically.
So in GNOME,
I think that overall, what GNU could do to change it is figure out what are
the LLVM guys doing to be such an attractive compiler platform compared to
GCC. LLVM is a compiler platform, it gives you many APIs and reusable
components that you can use at different levels, for example, clang, a C
Managing the community... or the community manages?
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 4:07 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.mewrote:
I'm looking for some charismatic, happy GNOME folks who can help engage
with our community.
We've had a bad run of late with a lot of folks getting the wrong idea
On 14 November 2012 10:03, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org wrote:
While I don't quite like the title community managers, I appreciate the
role and the sentiment.
I agree as well, as a developer I often have desired that someone would
coordinate efforts to make our community a better place to
Sriram Ramkrishna sri at ramkrishna.me writes:
There was nothing more damaging than Company's post which is still quoted
even today. Benjamin even today said that nobody refuted his staring at the
Abyss post. So his Benjamin's post true? Because people are still talking
about it and
What has changed since the initial GNOME 3 release and now ?
The software rendering in Mesa improved dramatically and also has some
limited ability to use GEM to optimise data paths on certain cards.
Is gnome-shell now optimized and usable on said, older hardware ?
Some of the problem
Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote:
...
Community enthusiasts won't go out there using the 'royal we' without some
training. This stuff isn't easy, and it is important that our volunteers
understand how to engage in both the GNOME community and the community at
large. They will need
Hi Tristan,
Le jeudi 15 novembre 2012, à 16:56 +0900, Tristan Van Berkom a écrit :
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 4:08 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote:
The wrong idea of course is that people think we're just removing features
for no apparent reason even though for instance fallback
2012/11/15 Benjamin Otte o...@gnome.org
The general response I got to that post was either no response at all,
talking
behind my back about what what a bad person I am (at least that's what
others
told me) or - and this was the most concerning response for me - You
shouldn't
say things
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 5:39 AM, Alan Cox a...@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk wrote:
If you've got a fast CPU and reasonable but unusupported graphics
hardware then it's usable but not great.
No idea what Gnome 3 is like on a Raspberry Pi which would be the most
useful other guide as its got fairly
Actually a non-negligible number of desktops as I understand running
gnome based desktops just don't have the graphics hardware
needed to run the shell
Even worse, most of the machines that CAN run it
need nonfree software to run it -- which means that we
should urge people not to buy
Em Wed, 2012-11-14 às 11:08 -0800, Sriram Ramkrishna escreveu:
The wrong idea of course is that people think we're just removing
features for no apparent reason even though for instance fallback mode
was never guarantee. We need to correct those misconceptions.
Having a good relationship
Hi Karen,
I think these are good suggestions. But I think it would be a mistake to
leave this critical responsibility to a committee of volunteers. One of the
many challenges we face is that our voice and message have been too
inconsistent - too infrequently heard. Heard too late. Lacking
Well, have come you forget Radeon free driver, who supports impressive
number of cards which work without a glitch with GNOME Shell, Unity and
similar software :)
In fact, most of the machines than can run has
a) Either Intel graphics - works perfectly
b) ATI/AMD Radeon - most of them are
On 15 nov. 2012, at 22:19, pec...@gmail.com pec...@gmail.com wrote:
d) and finally, all of these machines *can* run GNOME desktop trough software
rendering using LLVM, altough is not as snappy as it can be, it's really
works.
which prevents from running gnome on things like raspberry pi
On Thu, November 15, 2012 2:39 pm, William Jon McCann wrote:
Hi Karen,
I think these are good suggestions. But I think it would be a mistake to
leave this critical responsibility to a committee of volunteers. One of
the
many challenges we face is that our voice and message have been too
On Thu, 2012-11-15 at 16:56 +0900, Tristan Van Berkom wrote:
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 4:08 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote:
The wrong idea of course is that people think we're just removing features
for no apparent reason even though for instance fallback mode was never
On Thu, 2012-11-15 at 08:40 -0500, Chris Leonard wrote:
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 5:39 AM, Alan Cox a...@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk wrote:
If you've got a fast CPU and reasonable but unusupported graphics
hardware then it's usable but not great.
No idea what Gnome 3 is like on a Raspberry Pi
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 11:39 AM, William Jon McCann
william.jon.mcc...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Karen,
I think these are good suggestions. But I think it would be a mistake to
leave this critical responsibility to a committee of volunteers. One of the
many challenges we face is that our voice
Hi,
On 11/14/2012 01:07 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:
I'm looking for some charismatic, happy GNOME folks who can help engage
with our community.
We've had a bad run of late with a lot of folks getting the wrong idea
of what we're trying to do. I'm looking for some talented folks who can
help
Hey Sri,
On Tue, 2012-11-13 at 16:07 -0800, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:
I'm looking for some charismatic, happy GNOME folks who can help
engage with our community.
We've had a bad run of late with a lot of folks getting the wrong idea
of what we're trying to do.
Which is?
I'm looking for
On 11/14/2012 11:38 AM, Bastien Nocera wrote:
On Tue, 2012-11-13 at 16:07 -0800, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:
I'm looking for some talented folks who can help us engage with the
press, on blogs, on mailing lists and explain our vision.
I hope it's slightly better handled than Emily last 2 posts,
On Wed, 2012-11-14 at 11:50 +0100, Dave Neary wrote:
On 11/14/2012 11:38 AM, Bastien Nocera wrote:
On Tue, 2012-11-13 at 16:07 -0800, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:
I'm looking for some talented folks who can help us engage with the
press, on blogs, on mailing lists and explain our vision.
I
Hi,
On 11/14/2012 01:52 PM, Bastien Nocera wrote:
Telling X you'll teach them how to communicate with Y and then creating
a problem with X because of the way you communicated with Y.
I'm not sure I understand what you're getting at here. What are X and Y?
Tell me how exactly I should have
On Wed, 2012-11-14 at 13:59 +0100, Dave Neary wrote:
Hi,
On 11/14/2012 01:52 PM, Bastien Nocera wrote:
Telling X you'll teach them how to communicate with Y and then creating
a problem with X because of the way you communicated with Y.
I'm not sure I understand what you're getting at
On Wed, 2012-11-14 at 11:38 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote:
On Tue, 2012-11-13 at 16:07 -0800, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:
I'm looking for some charismatic, happy GNOME folks who can help
engage with our community.
This is a good idea, along with building up resources describing goals.
I
I could go with community enthusiasts if that makes it better. But their
stated role is to help communicate to the general public what are goals and
visions are, but also take relevant feedback to the community.
To some extent, yes it does involve sitting on social networks, or popular
blogs and
The wrong idea of course is that people think we're just removing features
for no apparent reason even though for instance fallback mode was never
guarantee. We need to correct those misconceptions.
Having a good relationship with the general public is more important now
than it was in the past
Hi,
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 1:08 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.mewrote:
The wrong idea of course is that people think we're just removing features
for no apparent reason even though for instance fallback mode was never
guarantee. We need to correct those misconceptions.
Having a
On Wed, November 14, 2012 2:28 pm, meg ford wrote:
Hi,
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 1:08 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna
s...@ramkrishna.mewrote:
The wrong idea of course is that people think we're just removing
features
for no apparent reason even though for instance fallback mode was never
guarantee.
On Wed, 2012-11-14 at 11:50 +0100, Dave Neary wrote:
Sheesh.
Seems an over-reaction, Dave. We've had some abysmal press lately, and I
agree with Bastien; a number of the things generating headlines have
little to do with facts or with what people who are in GNOME are
actually doing. But we
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Andrew Cowie
and...@operationaldynamics.com wrote:
On Wed, 2012-11-14 at 11:50 +0100, Dave Neary wrote:
Sheesh.
Seems an over-reaction, Dave. We've had some abysmal press lately, and I
agree with Bastien; a number of the things generating headlines have
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 5:37 PM, Debarshi Ray rishi...@lostca.se wrote:
Maybe private email? Maybe bringing it up in a different way? Sri's
initial email didn't mention Emily at all - were you just waiting for an
opportunity to bring up your discontent?
The point still remains that people
I'm looking for some charismatic, happy GNOME folks who can help engage
with our community.
We've had a bad run of late with a lot of folks getting the wrong idea of
what we're trying to do. I'm looking for some talented folks who can help
us engage with the press, on blogs, on mailing lists and
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