Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

Excerpt from Rugxulo: > > Well maybe it would also be nice to have some BASH, such > > as the DJGPP one - both shell and script language... :-) > Nah. Their Bash is ancient (2.05b), not well-supported by anyone > anymore. Most DJGPP stuff mandatorily has to be cross-compiled > anyways, for

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Build Tools

Hi, There are a lot of libraries that are used to BUILD FreeDOS from source. If those libraries were all together, it would make the build process easier. I also think that it would encourage some code re-use because the library to do (x) function is readily available to be included instead of

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Build Tools

Hi, On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 1:59 PM, Antony Gordon wrote: > > If a package called FreeDOS Build Tools/Headers or whatever was built, what > are > the common 3rd party libraries, such as internationalization, for example > that we > could include to make building

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Build Tools

Hi, > Just thought I'd bring this back up as I am currently working on > one of the core components to transition it from Borland to OpenWatcom. > In looking at the code, I noticed that for internationalization, > the CATS library is used. right. so far there's no central, shared source for

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Build Tools

On 1/11/2016 12:48 PM, Tom Ehlert wrote: >> So in getting back to this developer studio, it appears obvious the >> previous chain that there was no real agreement on an editor. > editor ??? > EDLIN is the official DOS editor ;) > Tom, just made my day! Ralf ;-) --- This email has been checked

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Build Tools

Hi, Just thought I'd bring this back up as I am currently working on one of the core components to transition it from Borland to OpenWatcom. In looking at the code, I noticed that for internationalization, the CATS library is used. One version of the FDISK source code didn't have the source or

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 beta

Hi, On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 9:07 PM, Maarten Vermeulen wrote: > > Ps: For those wondering why I can't do the core utillity: > > In 2015 I made a school report about MS-DOS. After that (I just did!) Iooked > at some MS-DOS sources. I mailed to Jim that I had been reading it.

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 beta

s-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> Onderwerp: Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 beta Hi Maarten, Thank you for your time. The packaging work is pretty straigh-forward - it's simply "look at what packages we have, and see if any newer versions are available and/or if any other interesting and u

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 beta

The new FreeDOS batch file based installer (FDI) has been done for a while now and I have used it to install FreeDOS multiple times. Since, it just uses Mateusz’s repo disc image for packages and is not FreeDOS 1.1, I consider it a FreeDOS 1.2 preview/alpha version. It would be nice to have a

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 beta

;Technical discussion and questions for FreeDOS developers." <freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> Onderwerp: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 beta The new FreeDOS batch file based installer (FDI) has been done for a while now and I have used it to install FreeDOS multiple times. Since, i

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 beta

-- > Van: Jerome E. Shidel Jr. <mailto:jer...@shidel.net> > Verzonden: ‎3-‎1-‎2016 23:12 > Aan: Technical discussion and questions for FreeDOS developers. > <mailto:freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> > Onderwerp: [Free

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 ALL packages

Hi, On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 5:20 AM, Eric Auer wrote: > > while DJGPP is rather large, in particular if you include > lots of sub-packages, I think FPC (Pascal) and FreeBASIC > can be a lot smaller to install and OpenWatcom C in the > middle... Also, I would assume that LFN

[Freedos-devel] FreeDos languages

How did "patagonian" appear in the list of requested FreeDos languages ? AFAIK 1) There is no patagonian language. 2) PT stands for "portuguese" in the ISO page codes. Regards JAS --

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDos languages

appears their are two languages used in Patagonia, Spanish and Welsh. > > > -- > ___ > Freedos-devel mailing list > Freedos-devel@lists

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 ALL packages

Hi Rugxulo, while DJGPP is rather large, in particular if you include lots of sub-packages, I think FPC (Pascal) and FreeBASIC can be a lot smaller to install and OpenWatcom C in the middle... Also, I would assume that LFN drivers are part of the ALL install, so why not install ALL compilers?

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 ALL packages

> while DJGPP is rather large, in particular if you include > lots of sub-packages, I think FPC (Pascal) and FreeBASIC > can be a lot smaller to install and OpenWatcom C in the > middle... Also, I would assume that LFN drivers are part > of the ALL install, so why not install ALL compilers? :-)

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 ALL packages

Hi, On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 11:52 PM, Mateusz Viste wrote: > On 21/12/2015 00:02, Rugxulo wrote: > >>> devel\fpc >> >> 3.0.0 was released recently, but there is no "package" for it yet. > > Same goes for DJGPP. And FreeBASIC. And surely many more packages. This > is one of the

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 ALL packages

Hi, On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 7:49 AM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote: > >> On Dec 21, 2015, at 12:52 AM, Mateusz Viste wrote: >> devel\fpc >>> >>> 3.0.0 was released recently, but there is no "package" for it yet. >> >> Same goes for DJGPP. And FreeBASIC.

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 ALL packages

-------- > ___ > Freedos-devel mailing list > Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel > --------

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 ALL packages

to be seen in ALL. Very disappointing. I hope that most of them are at least the latest “Stable” release. > > Mateusz > > > -- > _____

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 ALL packages

larger). (He also > rebuilt Curl, but I have the same worries. I may just mirror them to > iBiblio anyways, lacking any direct proof of error.) > > http://www.bttr-software.de/forum/board_entry.php?id=14569 > >> net\rsync > > Dunno

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 BASE packages

l\udvd2 > > > > ------ > ___ > Freedos-devel mailing list > Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel > -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 ALL packages

Hi, On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 3:55 PM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote: > > This is the list of the ALL package list for the FDI installer. > > Please let me know if I should anything else or remove something. > > Also, V8Power Tools is also installed when ALL is selected. > > This

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 ALL packages

On 21/12/2015 00:02, Rugxulo wrote: >> util\fdnpkg > > Presumably latest here? (0.99.4 "<8 hours ago", according to SF.net page) Good catch! I did release (silently) FDNPKG to v0.99.4 yesterday. Since it contains nothing big from the user's point of view, I didn't feel that it justify

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 BASE packages

Hi, I don't know how useful this is (esp. this late in the release process), but On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 3:52 PM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote: > This is the list of the BASE Packages for the FDI installer. > > Please let me know if I left anything out or should remove

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 BASE packages

On 20/12/2015 23:48, Rugxulo wrote: > ("BASE" does have both "uide" and "xmgr" but not "udvd2", so I'm not > sure why we don't just combine all that RDISK+UIDE+XMGR (etc.) into > one package) I think that was me who exploded this into different packages. The rationale was that when users look

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 ALL packages

archiver\tar > archiver\gzip > archiver\bz2 > devel\nasm > devel\fpc > net\wget > net\rsync > > > > > -- > _______

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 BASE packages

Hi, On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 4:41 PM, Antony Gordon wrote: > > Given the changes in DOS since 2.X until now, Edlin and EXE2BIN should be > optional. DOS 5 replaced Edlin with EDIT and EXE2BIN wasn't included with > DOS after 3.3 or 4.01. DOS also stopped providing LINK.EXE

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 BASE packages

This is the list of the BASE Packages for the FDI installer. Please note that I switched out UIDE for UDVD2. UIDE was causing strange disk errors with FDINST and with FreeCOM. Remember this is the Minimalist, MS-DOS functionality only BASE for FreeDOS 1.2. Please let me know if I left anything

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 ALL packages

This is the list of the ALL package list for the FDI installer. Please let me know if I should anything else or remove something. Also, V8Power Tools is also installed when ALL is selected. This list includes all packages in the BASE. I just did not include them here to shorten the list. ;

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

questions for FreeDOS developers." <freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> Onderwerp: Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 If it's just for the installer itself, it shouldn't be much text at all. In fact, a few KB may be all that's needed for all the supported languages. Now, if one were t

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

Verzonden: ‎24-‎11-‎2015 15:22 Aan: Technical discussion and questions for FreeDOS developers. <mailto:freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> Onderwerp: Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 On Tue, 24 Nov 2015, Geraldo Netto wrote: > well, nyc feels a l

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 I am just a bit worried that our OS will be HUGE due to the language resources.A few KB is fine,hopefully it doesn't go above that. On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 6:24 PM, Mercury Thirteen <mercury0x0...@gmail.com> wrote: Thanks for the shout! :) Many (most?) OSs hav

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

le that are unkind... >> Everywhere >> -- >> Van: Steve Nickolas <usots...@buric.co> >> Verzonden: ‎24-‎11-‎2015 15:22 >> Aan: Technical discussion and questions for FreeDOS developers. >> <freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> &g

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

Van: Steve Nickolas <mailto:usots...@buric.co> Verzonden: ‎24-‎11-‎2015 15:22 Aan: Technical discussion and questions for FreeDOS developers. <mailto:freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> Onderwerp: Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 On Tue, 2

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

raa...@gmail.com> wrote: > There are always people that are unkind... > Everywhere > -- > Van: Steve Nickolas <usots...@buric.co> > Verzonden: ‎24-‎11-‎2015 15:22 > Aan: Technical discussion and questions for FreeDOS developers. > <freedos-devel@lists.s

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

There are always people that are unkind... Everywhere -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: "Steve Nickolas" <usots...@buric.co> Verzonden: ‎24-‎11-‎2015 15:22 Aan: "Technical discussion and questions for FreeDOS developers." <freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net&g

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

s-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> Onderwerp: Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Hello Maarten, It's totally off-topic, but at which city do you live? :) BTW, Eric (Auer) used to live in Nijmegen (now in Trier) I have met him in person after years of mentoring (Eric mentors me on FreeDOS since

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

options, it's just not >>> feasible (without a lot of time and energy, which even enthusiasts >>> like me are lacking these days). >>> >>> So (obviously) it comes down to whoever is willing to do the work. If >>> no one is willin

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

ourceforge.net> Onderwerp: RE: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Where do you want to get it from? As well if there's Dutch in it, it us bad translated. Most likely the grammer is not good. I like the translating Van: JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU Verzonden: ‎23-‎11-‎2015 16:09 Aan: Technical discussion and

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

eulen" <netraa...@gmail.com> Verzonden: ‎23-‎11-‎2015 20:56 Aan: "Maarten Vermeulen" <netraa...@gmail.com>; "Technical discussion and questions for FreeDOS developers." <freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> Onderwerp: RE: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 I maybe be

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

.net> Onderwerp: Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 On Nov 22, 2015, at 2:48 PM, Maarten Vermeulen <netraa...@gmail.com> wrote: I like to add to this that I can give you Dutch. If you like the fact of being lazy, you can give me what you want to translate and I translate it. Or if you wa

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

Hi, On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 8:13 AM, Maarten Vermeulen wrote: > > For those that didn't know, English is the second language in the > Netherlands. Everyone learns it on school and needs to do exam with it. 80% > of the Dutch people talk/write English. Also on school you

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

;Technical discussion and questions for FreeDOS developers." <freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> Onderwerp: Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Hi, On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 8:13 AM, Maarten Vermeulen <netraa...@gmail.com> wrote: > > For those that didn't know, English is the second la

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

If it's any help,I speak in binary (No literally) in one of my Computer Physics classes.We have to translate our conversations into binary (ASCII to BINARY).I swear,my instructor has a stick of RAM in her head or something.She speaks in binary like it is a natural LANGUAGE.(This is off topic,but

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

Hi again, On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 5:21 PM, Rugxulo wrote: > > Let's check WinRAR to see what languages it (still) supports: Oops! How the heck did I screw that up?? (Trying to remove the uninteresting redundancy of "32 bit / 64 bit".) Bah, let me try again: Albanian Arabic

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

Dutch language > support... :) > > We'll see. :) > > Maarten > -- > Van: Jerome Shidel <jer...@shidel.net> > Verzonden: ‎22-‎11-‎2015 23:26 > Aan: Technical discussion and questions for FreeDOS developers. > <freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

;Technical discussion and questions for FreeDOS developers." <freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> Onderwerp: Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Well,a lot of OSes (Windows,Linux) support a ridiciolous amount of languages.Perhaps we should use an already avaible language archive?

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

‎20-‎11-‎2015 23:20 Aan: "Technical discussion and questions for FreeDOS developers." <freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> Onderwerp: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 First: What languages would you like to see FDI 1.2 support: English (EN) Spanish (ES)

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

s-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> Onderwerp: RE: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Hi, I personally like Dutch supported as well. I'm Dutch and can English but sometimes I prefer my own language. :) In the very old fdbasecd I liked the option of having Dutch. Maarten Van: Jerome E. Shidel Jr. Ve

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

> Aan: Technical discussion and questions for FreeDOS developers. > Onderwerp: RE: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 > > Hi, > > I personally like Dutch supported as well. > I'm Dutch and can English but sometimes I prefer my own language. :) > In the very old fdbasecd I li

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

list of words or whatever else, I can search for it. But it >> is late here so that would probably be tomorrow or even Tuesday... While >> some words can be fast. >> You choose. :) >> >> Sorry for answering so late. :) >> >> Maarten >> _____

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

l but perhaps unavoidable. (Maybe all such worrying about this >> should wait until FD 1.2.1 or 1.3 or 2.0.) >> >> -- >> _______ >> Freedos-devel mail

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

First: What languages would you like to see FDI 1.2 support: English (EN) Spanish (ES) (anything else?) Second: Nobody has any idea on what additional packages are to be included in “all packages”?

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

Hi, On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 6:40 PM, Eric Auer wrote: > > But back to the original question: The installer should > support English, plus any language for which somebody on > this list is interested in giving you a translation of a > message file of your installer :-) For

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

Hi! Let me take your question as an excuse to talk a bit about support of non-English languages in any DOS, maybe some of our experts can add interesting comments and hints about the status of support in FreeDOS :-) Of course I also answer the original two questions, a bit further below ;-) >

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

sh only" it is. > Not ideal but perhaps unavoidable. (Maybe all such worrying about this > should wait until FD 1.2.1 or 1.3 or 2.0.) > > -- > ___ >

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

s down to whoever is willing to do the work. If >> no one is willing to step up to the plate, then "English only" it is. >> Not ideal but perhaps unavoidable. (Maybe all such worrying about this >> should wait until FD 1.2.1 or 1.3 or 2.0.)

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

Hi Jayden, (please use SPACES after punctuation - I added them below already...) > Question about the way our new kernel will handle floppy disks. I recently Probably not a kernel issue and also, which "new kernel" do you mean? > got my hands on a lot of unopened micro floppy disks, with a 1

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

ly query your data on Hadoop in a > more interactive manner. Teradata is also now providing full enterprise > support for Presto. Download a free open source copy now. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=250295911=/4140 > ___ > Freedos-devel mailing list > Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel > -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

t of unopened micro floppy disks, with a 1 MB >>>> storage >>>> > >>>> > That is an unusual size for a floppy, I would say. How many inch? >>>> >>>> Prolly means unformatted 3.5" 720K disks, which are sold as "

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

"1 MB". >>> >>> -uso. >>> >>> >>> ------ >>> ___ >>> Freedos-devel mailing list >>> Freedos-devel@l

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

Hi Antony, > CONFIG.SYS entry > DEVICE=[drive:][path]DRIVER.SYS /D:0 /F:2 That would be for 720k A: drive hardware, I doubt that the user has such hardware. > may work > http://www.vfrazee.com/ms-dos/6.22/help/driver.sys.htm It will not work because driver.sys does not even exist in

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

inch? >> >> Prolly means unformatted 3.5" 720K disks, which are sold as "1 MB". >> >> -uso. >> >> >> -- >> _____

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

On Tue, 17 Nov 2015, Eric Auer wrote: >> got my hands on a lot of unopened micro floppy disks, with a 1 MB storage > > That is an unusual size for a floppy, I would say. How many inch? Prolly means unformatted 3.5" 720K disks, which are sold as "1 MB". -uso.

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

Hi, > This is what I have for the “BASE” install: > https://github.com/shidel/FDI/blob/master/INSFILES/FDBASEB.LST > base\edlin really ? ;) > base\exe2bin not very useful in general; if at all then neaqr compilers > base\fdxms286 ok, but > base\fdxms > base\himemx > base\xmgr a little too

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

Looks well organized.Is this compressed,or are the packages just a DIR? On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 6:29 PM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote: > Had a few minutes today and did some enhancements > to internals and package handling in FDI. > > New pre-made preview disk image available:

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

Hi, On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 10:28 AM, Tom Ehlert wrote: > >> This is what I have for the “BASE” install: >> https://github.com/shidel/FDI/blob/master/INSFILES/FDBASEB.LST All the various nitpicking about "BASE" has been mentioned several times before. But I don't think

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

> On Nov 16, 2015, at 4:52 PM, Rugxulo wrote: > > Hi, > > On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 10:28 AM, Tom Ehlert wrote: >> >>> This is what I have for the “BASE” install: >>> https://github.com/shidel/FDI/blob/master/INSFILES/FDBASEB.LST > > All the various

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

Had a few minutes today and did some enhancements to internals and package handling in FDI. New pre-made preview disk image available: http://up.lod.bz/FDI/latest Mostly, “Basic Mode” is done. "Advanced mode" target and package selection is just waiting for me to have time to complete the

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 - Roadmap

ALLB.LST text file to include them. > > > > -- > ___ > Freedos-devel mailing list > Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 - Media Layout

ling list > Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel > ------ ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 - Roadmap

Hi Jayden, as far as I am concerned, the installer should NOT backup the entire drive - only the DOS directory which would get overwritten, plus any (config, kernel) files in the root directory that gets overwritten plus maybe the boot sector. As far as installing and updating individual

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 - Roadmap

e what packages are in the “ALL Packages”, just update > the A:\FDSETUP\SETUP\FDALLB.LST text file to include them. > > > -- > _____

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 - Media Layout

________ > Freedos-devel mailing list > Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel > > -- > _______

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 - Roadmap

> Freedos-devel mailing list > Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel > ------ ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 - Roadmap

evel mailing list > Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel > ------ ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 - Roadmap

CHKDSK 42 breaks compatibility with John Doe’s custom > startup autoexec.bat file. In fact, unless they noticed it was updated, > probably wouldn’t care. > > > > > Cheers, Eric > > > > > > > > > -------

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 - Roadmap

n’t care. > > > > > Cheers, Eric > > > > > > > > -- > > ___ > > Freedos-devel mailing list > > Freedos-devel@lists.sourcefo

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

> 4) Remember that *not everyone* who uses FreeDOS wants to install it. As > others here have said, sometimes all a user needs is a temporary system > - like a bootable floppy or a LiveCD (e.g. to re-flash a BIOS). +1 a bootable USB stick might be an even better idea. to insist on

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

I have some suggestions for the design objectives of the FreeDOS installer: For old PCs (i.e. any PC that *cannot* boot from a CD): 1) Remember the old days of PCs. In those days, many people with ATs, XTs, and compatibles managed to work with large volumes of data using a variety of

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 - Roadmap

On 11/11/2015 12:00, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote: > Unzip seems to work fine for the packages on the FreeDOS 1.1 CD. (excluding > JEMMEX, which has some > attribute issues) > I’m not sure what you mean by “too many details” ? Are you able to uninstall cleanly a package that you simply unzip?

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 - Roadmap

exits. That way, the install media can be used as a boot/recovery system without always being forced straight into the installer. > > Mateusz > > > -- > _______ > Freedos-devel mailing list > Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/li

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 - Roadmap

__ > Freedos-devel mailing list > Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel > ------ ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 - Roadmap

On 11/11/2015 18:19, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote: > I will probably add a pre-built floppy image to my download server > (http://up.lod.bz) > at some point. That would be awesome. > If FDI uses FDINST remove, how will it be able to tell if it failed to remove > a package because of an error or

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 - Roadmap

te, /force or similar switch was added to FDINST. Even a /force:IReallyMeanIt switch would be nice. > > Mateusz > > > -- > _______ > Freedos-devel mailing list > Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel > ---

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 - Roadmap

On 11/11/2015 17:23, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote: > Converted FDI to use a single package for both binary and sources and > to use Mateusz’s all_cd.iso as the layout for packages and to use > FDINST instead of unzip. Sounds cool! So if I slap your boot floppy inside all_cd.iso's, we should end

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 - Roadmap

e to tell if it failed to remove a package because of an error or if it fails to remove it because it is not installed? > > Mateusz > > > -- > _______

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 - Roadmap

On 11/11/2015 13:34, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote: > Just FYI, %DOSDIR% will be C:\FDOS in basic/normal mode. At some point, > whenI get around to writing vask in V8, advanced mode will allow setting a > different target for the install. Having a hardcoded location is fine, I guess... Although I,

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 - Roadmap

Converted FDI to use a single package for both binary and sources and to use Mateusz’s all_cd.iso as the layout for packages and to use FDINST instead of unzip. base package list was easy, just added all packages in the \BASE dir. no idea what to put in the “all” package list. However, there

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 - Roadmap

On 11/11/2015 12:52, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote: > I may be wrong, but it appears that the original FreeDOS 1.1 packages > include “deployed” versions of the packages that include all the data to > do what your asking. That's not the case. Only LSM files are provided. The listing of actually

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 - Roadmap

th RECOVERY option, release version identifier file is present in C:\FDOS and it matches that of the Installer. This is very similar to several major linux distributions and how they identify what “release” is installed. > > cheers, > Mateusz > >

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 - Roadmap

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Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 - Roadmap

On 11/11/2015 19:25, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote: > It seems kind time consuming for the FDI to run through every installed > package with > "FDINST remove” prior to doing an install. What do you mean by "time consuming" ? FDINST REMOVE won't do anything if the package is not installed - it will

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 - Roadmap

> how both FDNPKG and FDINST behave). An install or upgrade if installed option would be nice. It isn’t a conflict if it is upgrading a earlier version. :) > > Mateusz > > > ------

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 - Roadmap

On 11/11/2015 20:09, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote: >> What do you mean by "time consuming" ? FDINST REMOVE won't do anything >> if the package is not installed - it will execute only a check >> determining whether or not said package is already installed. This is >> something that needs to be done

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 - Roadmap

I see the problem - when you move the %DOSDIR% directory away (or backup it), you loose all meta information about potentially installed packages. In fact I wonder if there is a point in trying to solve such cases - after all, if the user has some packages installed, then he doesn't need the

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 - Roadmap

. >> >> But, it won’t upgrade a pre-existing file. So, if someone were to download >> version 1.0 of BLAH from sourceforge and drop it in they’re C:\games >> directory. >> If FDINST tries to install version 2.0 of a blah.zip package, it will fail. >> Since it has >>

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 - Roadmap

OK, I put the latest version of the FDI boot floppy image up on my download server. http://up.lod.bz/FDI Highly experimental still. So, I recommend only running it a virtual machine or on a test machine. NOTE: At any point that it is waiting for user input, CTRL-C will bring up a option box

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 - Roadmap

Oh, one more thing on the FDI floppy image. If you want to customize what packages are in the “ALL Packages”, just update the A:\FDSETUP\SETUP\FDALLB.LST text file to include them. --

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