Re: Switch/Unix?

2002-10-22 Thread Jon Glass
on 10/23/02 8:13 AM, John Koen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > There was a "Cocoa" module [I think] of OpenDoc Cocoa was not part of OpenDoc. It was a free-standing application. It used/uses no editors nor stationery. I cannot vouch that it doesn't depend on the SOMObjects and/or CFM libraries, but

Re: Switch/Unix?

2002-10-22 Thread Eugene Lee
On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 02:24:44AM -0400, Laurent Daudelin wrote: : : on 23/10/02 02:13, John Koen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: : : > What tipped me off is the date. Jobs was not even a part of Apple yet, : > was he? I think Gil Amelio/Board were still trying to decide between : > NeXT and Be OS a

Re: the dark side

2002-10-22 Thread Justin
what i find interesting, is that there is a program (coded for linux) called "maconlinux" (www.maconlinux.org) which allows you to run macos, inside linux at full speed - no emulation, it runs directly on the processor. why cant apple create something similar, for their own OS, on their own har

Re: Switch/Unix?

2002-10-22 Thread Justin
hm, perhaps you should let him make that decision? perhaps it runs in the family, and he could be the next steve jobs. or on the other hand, the next bill gateson second thoughtget the little guy a nice bike. On Wednesday, October 23, 2002, at 02:27 AM, Jon Glass wrote

Re: Switch/Unix?

2002-10-22 Thread Laurent Daudelin
on 23/10/02 02:27, Jon Glass at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > on 10/23/02 7:10 AM, Laurent Daudelin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>> i found a "Family PC" magazine, which had a little article about Cocoa, >>> and they were talking about how its a great new programming >>> environment, thats simple

Re: Switch/Unix?

2002-10-22 Thread Justin
yes, companies do grant other software companies access to OS source code - sometimes there is a fee, sometimes its only NDA, but always at very least NDA. you can get the source code to windows, if you sign an NDA, and fork over 323,546,145,632.00, and your youngest child. its how software can

Re: the dark side

2002-10-22 Thread Andrew Johnson
on a similar note, are their any PPC emulators for mac? (ie is there anything where I can host multiple virtual macs inside my own physical mac?) This would be great for running classic in a real PPC environment instead of the translation that it is (I hear that DP1 of OS X used a disk image to

Re: Switch/Unix?

2002-10-22 Thread Jon Glass
on 10/23/02 7:10 AM, Laurent Daudelin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> i found a "Family PC" magazine, which had a little article about Cocoa, >> and they were talking about how its a great new programming >> environment, thats simple enough for kids to learn (it appeared to be a >> graphical enviro

Re: Copy OS to Smaller Partition? (or Reinstall?)

2002-10-22 Thread Jon Glass
on 10/22/02 10:22 PM, BGbytes at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > And, for future reference, if I wanted to completely "UNpartition" this HD, > and have all 6 gigs in "one" place, would I use the "Drive Setup" to "wipe > out" the two partitions, and it would create "one partition" in place of the > curr

Re: Switch/Unix?

2002-10-22 Thread Laurent Daudelin
on 23/10/02 02:13, John Koen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > What tipped me off is the date. Jobs was not even a part of Apple yet, > was he? I think Gil Amelio/Board were still trying to decide between > NeXT and Be OS after (during?) canceling Copland. It wasn't called > "Cocoa" in NeXT, was it?

Re: Switch/Unix?

2002-10-22 Thread John Koen
There was a "Cocoa" module [I think] of OpenDoc, the software foundation which Cyberdog was built upon that was originally a collaboration between Apple, IBM and someone else (not Motorola, and definitely not Microsoft!). Cocoa in this case was intended for kids in school. The only reason I kno

Re: AppleWorks presentation puzzle

2002-10-22 Thread Peter Graening
Rodney: I too experienced the same problem, under OS 9, with AppleWorks, with presentations. It's because AW only "presents" presentations at 640x480, so the PB switches resolution settings so that the presentation can be seen full-screen. Does the same thing in OS X. Unfortunately, the projecto

Re: the dark side

2002-10-22 Thread Laurent Daudelin
on 23/10/02 01:18, wappling at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi all, I want ask ,does something like a mac to PC translation software > exist that would allow jaguar to run on a PC? None that I'm aware of. There were some rumors that Apple is maintaining a version of OS X that runs on an Intel archi

Re: Switch/Unix?

2002-10-22 Thread Christoph Hammann
Am 23.10.2002 2:12 Uhr schrieb "Donald Keenan" unter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Wow! A lot of questions! I put in my replies, but mind you, I'm only a programming autodidact and have been at it for a mere three years. > > Does this mean that the act of compiling is always hardware specific? Is > RedH

the dark side

2002-10-22 Thread wappling
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Re: Switch/Unix?

2002-10-22 Thread Laurent Daudelin
on 23/10/02 00:29, Justin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > i found a "Family PC" magazine, which had a little article about Cocoa, > and they were talking about how its a great new programming > environment, thats simple enough for kids to learn (it appeared to be a > graphical environment?) > this m

Re: Switch/Unix?

2002-10-22 Thread Justin
ACK!!! sorry about quoting all the adverts etc. on the bottom. i seem to have a habit of forgetting to delete that :/ On Wednesday, October 23, 2002, at 12:29 AM, Justin wrote: > i found a "Family PC" magazine, which had a little article about Cocoa, > and they were talking about how its a grea

Re: Switch/Unix?

2002-10-22 Thread Justin
i found a "Family PC" magazine, which had a little article about Cocoa, and they were talking about how its a great new programming environment, thats simple enough for kids to learn (it appeared to be a graphical environment?) this magazine was published in 97 iirc os10 wasnt around then, a

AppleWorks presentation puzzle

2002-10-22 Thread Rodney A. Hoiseth
Hi, all. I'm preparing a presentation using AppleWorks 6.1.2. (OS 9.0.4, Japanese Language Kit installed and AW "registered", PowerBook G3 233 MHz Wallstreet 14", 1024 X 768 [simulscan when connected to the projector] resolution) and I've run into a weird problem. Today I went to confirm the c

Re: Switch/Unix?

2002-10-22 Thread Jeremy Derr
On Tuesday, October 22, 2002, at 07:12 PM, Donald Keenan wrote: > Does this mean that the act of compiling is always hardware specific? > Is > RedHat Linux compiled to work only on Wintel/IBM machines? YellowDog > compiled for mac processors? yes. but not only is it hardware specific, it's als

Re: Switch/Unix?

2002-10-22 Thread Donald Keenan
On Tuesday, October 22, 2002, at 10:05 AM, Jeremy Derr wrote: >> I'm reading a "History of Unix for Dummies" kind >> of >> article for my web development class. It suggests that Unix held or has >> the promise of running on any kind of computer. What is being done to >> OS >> X to make its Unix c

Re: Switch/Unix?

2002-10-22 Thread Jeremy Derr
On Tuesday, October 22, 2002, at 08:19 PM, Donald Keenan wrote: > Thanks Jeremy. Obviously, I've got to learn some basics here. > I just looked at a review of "Developing Cocoa Programs" and it > mentioned that an API is used to connect the programming language > (Objective C ?) to the OS. > So i

Re: What's With FBC Indexing?

2002-10-22 Thread John Koen
Hi, Gail I remember this problem. I'm running only OS X now, so the memory is fading, but I had the problem only on my Beige G3, never on my Pismo. In the indexing preferences, you should uncheck all the languages you don't need. If you have more than one language checked and it still takes a

Re: Switch/Unix?

2002-10-22 Thread Donald Keenan
On Tuesday, October 22, 2002, at 09:11 PM, Jeremy Derr wrote: > On Tuesday, October 22, 2002, at 07:46 PM, Donald Keenan wrote: > >> Is Cocoa a BSD version of Unix that is more compatible with >> Foundation/Appkit? > > Cocoa is a programming environment; it has almost nothing to do with > UNIX (

Re: Switch/Unix?

2002-10-22 Thread Jeremy Derr
On Tuesday, October 22, 2002, at 07:46 PM, Donald Keenan wrote: > Is Cocoa a BSD version of Unix that is more compatible with > Foundation/Appkit? Cocoa is a programming environment; it has almost nothing to do with UNIX (other than the fact that it lays on top of an unix). -- G-Books is spo

Re: Switch/Unix?

2002-10-22 Thread Donald Keenan
> > The basic layer is what is called Darwin. This is an open source > project, I > think that's the right term. It means that anybody can collaborate to > the > core project, and Apple (or some kind of a governing body?) reserves the > right to include the modifications in Darwin. Darwin is the

Re: Switch

2002-10-22 Thread Donald Keenan
On Tuesday, October 22, 2002, at 11:08 AM, Amber Rhea wrote: >> Now if Apple can get Steve the Dell Dude to switch, THAT would be >> hilarious! >> Donald >> http://www.dell.com/us/en/dhs/topics/segtopic_steven_whois.htm > > Take a look at this: > >

Re: Switch/Unix?

2002-10-22 Thread Donald Keenan
On Tuesday, October 22, 2002, at 10:48 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: > For simple programs; command-line things that don't make reference to a > huge number of different libraries, or include all of their C-code > themselves, and don't use *any* libs, the promise of 'Run everywhere' > does hold true, s

Wallstreet PC-Cards

2002-10-22 Thread Martin Schmidt
Moin Moin Ted, Am 11.08.2002 schriebst Du: On 11.08.2002, you wrote: >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 18:14:16 -0700 >From: Ted Burford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: Wallstreet > >> > Also I am having trouble ejecting the card on the >> > left side. >> >> Ejection c

Corruption of CSMs (Was Re: remote access control strip module glitch)

2002-10-22 Thread James Rohde
Okay, gurus and supergeeks - ;-) >Maybe something got corrupted in the control strip. I would try >trashing the Control Strip Preferences file and do the usual >maintenance stuff (zapping the pram, rebuilding the desktop) to see >if it helps. Slightly shifting the topic, if indeed the CSM got

Re: Why won't 8.6 install on partitioned clicky Pismo?

2002-10-22 Thread Jeremy Derr
On Tuesday, October 22, 2002, at 11:55 AM, Guy Masson wrote: > 8.6 will not run on a Pismo, as it was shipped with OS 9.04 as it's > base > system. > > You might try an install of 8.6 on a Wallstreet and then copy it over > to the > partition, but I suspect the ROM on a Pismo will not accept a

Re: Copy OS to Smaller Partition? (or Reinstall?)

2002-10-22 Thread Laurent Daudelin
On 22/10/02 16:22, "BGbytes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip!] > Can I just "slide over" and "copy" the System Folder from the 4.3 to the 1.7 > and will it work? [snip!] Yes, you can do that. I did it myself a couple of times. After making the copy, you might have to just open the newly copied sy

What's With FBC Indexing?

2002-10-22 Thread BGbytes
This is merely a curiousity question... A time or two I was going to make use of the FBC Indexing of the HD as found via the Sherlock 2. But because it takes forever, I never finish. I tried again Monday thru Tuesday, and I let it run 16 hours. What is odd to me is it began by saying: Time Rem

Copy OS to Smaller Partition? (or Reinstall?)

2002-10-22 Thread BGbytes
Greetings... This no doubt is a "dumb" question for the experts out there, but here goes anyway :-/ ... This Wallstreet (266/192/6) came partitioned, 4.3 gigs and 1.7 gigs. OS 9.2.2 is on the 4.3 gig partition, but I would like to switch it to the smaller 1.7 gig partition; and keep all my "stuf

Re: Switch Commercials

2002-10-22 Thread Shawn King
On 10/21/02 11:31 PM, "K" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Incidentally. it was announced last week that the Dell Dude has bit the > dust.. No, it wasn't. It was *rumored*. And Dell has officially said the rumors are not true. Shawn King On this week's YML: CEO of IDG World Expo, Bugdom 2, EyeTV & M

Re: Why won't 8.6 install on partitioned clicky Pismo?

2002-10-22 Thread Guy Masson
A follow-up: See AppleCare knowledge base article # 25114. -- Guy -- G-Books is sponsored by and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | & CDRWs on Sale! | Suppor

Re: Why won't 8.6 install on partitioned clicky Pismo?

2002-10-22 Thread Guy Masson
8.6 will not run on a Pismo, as it was shipped with OS 9.04 as it's base system. You might try an install of 8.6 on a Wallstreet and then copy it over to the partition, but I suspect the ROM on a Pismo will not accept anything less than OS 9.04 But I would not hold my breath. -- Guy M > ---

Why won't 8.6 install on partitioned clicky Pismo?

2002-10-22 Thread S Bosko
Pismo 400, 320 RAM, used to test software under various OSes. All OS installs are vanilla. = background = I have 4 partitions on the drive - OS 9 (curently 9.0.4 per fresh wipe and restore from original disks) OS X (curently blank, previously had 10.1) Applications, and a 4th parti

Re: Switch

2002-10-22 Thread Amber Rhea
> Now if Apple can get Steve the Dell Dude to switch, THAT would be > hilarious! > Donald > http://www.dell.com/us/en/dhs/topics/segtopic_steven_whois.htm Take a look at this: :) -- *** Amber Rhea *** [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.tangerin

Re: Switch/Unix?

2002-10-22 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Monday, October 21, 2002, at 06:14 PM, Donald Keenan wrote: > PS Speaking of OSes, I'm reading a "History of Unix for Dummies" kind > of > article for my web development class. It suggests that Unix held or has > the promise of running on any kind of computer. What is being done to > OS > X

Re: remote access control strip module glitch

2002-10-22 Thread Luis Sequeira
> >>> Might anyone know why my TiBook 667/OS9.2.2 hangs for several seconds when I choose 'Connect' from the Control Strip Remote Access module and fails to connect? I'm able to connect by opening the Remote Access control panel and selecting 'Connect' but the c

Re: Switch/Unix?

2002-10-22 Thread Jeremy Derr
On Monday, October 21, 2002, at 08:14 PM, Donald Keenan wrote: > I think it's time for Apple to shake up its advertising campaign. The > new 17" FP iMac deserves a better market share. > Donald > PS Speaking of OSes, I'm reading a "History of Unix for Dummies" kind > of > article for my web deve

Re: remote access control strip module glitch

2002-10-22 Thread Greg Gilmore
>>> Might anyone know why my TiBook 667/OS9.2.2 hangs for several seconds >>> when I >>> choose 'Connect' from the Control Strip Remote Access module and >>> fails to >>> connect? I'm able to connect by opening the Remote Access control >>> panel and >>> selecting 'Connect' but the control strip mo

Wallstreet screen - invertor?

2002-10-22 Thread hanuman
Greetings all, My Wallstreet II's 14.1" screen is looking slightly darker and a different colour at the top. Compared to another WS II of the same vintage whihc has had much less use, my screen is also darker and takes longer to get bright. By itself, it is quite adequate for general use. It also