Re: Anyone here use virtual PC?

On Wed, Oct 13, 2004 at 11:34 pm -0500, Travis Martin wrote: > If it >happens that a tiny fraction of those people use the product to run yet >a third OS, like Linux, fine---what do they care? We're talking about >an insignificant, from their perspective, number of people. While I >feel sure t

Re: Anyone here use virtual PC?

Well, okay, but my point is that, as it looks to me, their goal was likely along the lines of building a product that will allow the minority of computer users (us Mac geeks) to run their immensely popular OS (Windows) in hopes that they can sell a few units. If it happens that a tiny fraction

Re: Anyone here use virtual PC?

Travis Martin said: >You guys see them black helicopters circling? Lemme see if I've got >this right...MS, one of the richest, most successful companies in >history, is going to go out of their way to keep 1 or 2 % of users >(that would be Linux, etc) of a product (VPC) that is maybe 1 or 2 % o

Re: Anyone here use virtual PC?

On Wed, 13 Oct 2004, Travis Martin wrote: > You guys see them black helicopters circling? Lemme see if I've got > this right...MS, one of the richest, most successful companies in > history, is going to go out of their way to keep 1 or 2 % of users > (that would be Linux, etc) of a product (VPC) t

Re: Anyone here use virtual PC?

You guys see them black helicopters circling? Lemme see if I've got this right...MS, one of the richest, most successful companies in history, is going to go out of their way to keep 1 or 2 % of users (that would be Linux, etc) of a product (VPC) that is maybe 1 or 2 % of the users of a platfor

Re: Anyone here use virtual PC?

From: Adam Thayer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Well, here is the thing, it would take WORK to break the ability to boot Linux and other OSes that they just don't want to spend. Eh, pardon ?!? They have all the code for VPC and of course they compile the app, so it's not too difficult a task for them to ma

Re: Anyone here use virtual PC?

The main question is WHY did M$ grab VPC? There isn't any reason except that VPC's ability to run non-M$ operating systems was a threat. Connectix had a version of VPC that ran under Windoze and the only way M$ could kill or control that was to grab VPC away from Connectix. It is also instructi

Re: Anyone here use virtual PC?

At 5:13 AM -0700 10/13/04, Adam Thayer wrote: On Oct 12, 2004, at 10:54 PM, Larry le Mac wrote: From: Steve Fuller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.microsoft.com/mac/products/virtualpc/virtualpc.aspx? pid=whichver I'm sure it will run Linux just fine. Are you seriously telling me that you think M$ w

Re: Anyone here use virtual PC?

Are you seriously telling me that you think M$ will sell a version of VPC that will allow faultless running of Linux etc ? I am of the opinion that they will. They may not go out of their way to actively support it, but I don't believe that they will actively make something not work. Maybe I'm a

Re: Anyone here use virtual PC?

On Oct 12, 2004, at 10:54 PM, Larry le Mac wrote: From: Steve Fuller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.microsoft.com/mac/products/virtualpc/virtualpc.aspx? pid=whichver I'm sure it will run Linux just fine. Are you seriously telling me that you think M$ will sell a version of VPC that will allow fa

Re: Anyone here use virtual PC?

From: Steve Fuller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.microsoft.com/mac/products/virtualpc/virtualpc.aspx? pid=whichver I'm sure it will run Linux just fine. Are you seriously telling me that you think M$ will sell a version of VPC that will allow faultless running of Linux etc ? VPC will no longer

Re: Anyone here use virtual PC?

From: Steve Fuller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Unfortunately, the first thing M$ supposedly did when they got their hands on VPC was to disable support for non-M$ operating systems. No Linix, no OS/2 Warp, etc. They will install, but you will not get any support from MS if you have issues getting them

Re: Anyone here use virtual PC?

On Oct 12, 2004, at 8:41 AM, Larry le Mac wrote: From: Timothy Luoma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> One thing that is undeniable is that they are putting the screws to those who want to use their own version of Windows with VPC by delaying the release of the VPC without an OS. Anyone who thinks that ther

Re: Anyone here use virtual PC?

Unfortunately, the first thing M$ supposedly did when they got their hands on VPC was to disable support for non-M$ operating systems. No Linix, no OS/2 Warp, etc. They will install, but you will not get any support from MS if you have issues getting them to run. Steve -- G-Books is sponsored b

Re: Anyone here use virtual PC?

From: Timothy Luoma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> One thing that is undeniable is that they are putting the screws to those who want to use their own version of Windows with VPC by delaying the release of the VPC without an OS. Anyone who thinks that there will be a non-Windoze version of VPC can forget i

Re: Anyone here use virtual PC?

From: "Dennis B. Swaney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Actually, Larry, M$ can't say to much specific about Longhorn yet because Tiger hasn't been released and they are waiting to see what new stuff they can steal from the Mac OS. Most definetly!!! But I have heard users talking about features which won't

Re: Anyone here use virtual PC?

On Oct 11, 2004, at 11:02 PM, Dennis B. Swaney wrote: Unfortunately, the first thing M$ supposedly did when they got their hands on VPC was to disable support for non-M$ operating systems. No Linix, no OS/2 Warp, etc. Yeah, Windows ran much better than FreeBSD, largely (I suspect) because the VP

Re: Anyone here use virtual PC?

Obviously they didn't disable the program too much, everything so far except networking and sound are just fine, and networking is fine if I connect to ethernet, just not over wireless. This is strange because in Windows 98 or Windows 2000, the VPC doesn't care if I use wireless or wired ethernet

Re: Anyone here use virtual PC?

At 2:01 PM -0700 10/11/04, Andrew F. wrote: I have SuSe Linux 9.1 on my VPC, but I haven't had any luck getting my networking set up. In Windows it works great from my Airport Extreme, but not in Linux. Unfortunately, the first thing M$ supposedly did when they got their hands on VPC was to disab

Re: Anyone here use virtual PC?

Here's a link about a guy with about 50 OS's installed using VPC on a 17" 'book. http://www.kernelthread.com/mac/vpc/ I have not tried VPC 7 but have never had issues installing any OS on VPC 6 and unless someone gives me a G5 system, I guess I won't be needing VPC 7 anytime soon. I remember u

Re: Anyone here use virtual PC?

>Sorry if I missed previous detail, but what's the problem? "Won't run" is >fairly vague. It won't install? It unexpectedly quits? > >I've run a few games (not SFC) on VPC. Graphics requirements and >Copy-protection schemes on install CDs tend to be the biggest bugaboos. I >search periodically for

Re: Anyone here use virtual PC?

.. Original Message ... On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 19:06:45 +0200 "Marcin Wichary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> If you are selling "VPC with Windows XP SP2" then there's 0 reason why >> you can't sell "VPC without Windows" >> >> If you have VPC ready to ship but are waiting for SP2 to be rele

Re: Anyone here use virtual PC?

.. Original Message ... On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 13:18:06 -0400 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >OBviously there are some very knowledgeable people on this topic here- anyone know of a way to tweak VPC so I can run this game? Keep in mind, this is an older game There are some knowledable folk

Re: Anyone here use virtual PC?

.. Original Message ... On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 19:06:45 +0200 "Marcin Wichary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> ps - btw I fully expect that Longhorn will have some kind of >> integrated VPC (ala "Carbon") if Microsoft follows through on their >> plan to break all existing Windows programs f

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On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In a message dated 10/11/2004 6:45:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "Frank > P. Eigler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > >What game are you referring to? > > StarFleet Command Sorry if I missed previous detail, but what's the problem? "Won't run" is fai

Re: Anyone here use virtual PC?

In a message dated 10/11/2004 6:45:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "Frank P. Eigler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >What game are you referring to? StarFleet Command -- G-Books is sponsored by and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives |

Re: Anyone here use virtual PC?

On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > VPC is a nice add on for the mac, but definately not wirht the full > retail price. BUt then again, what DOES MS sell that's worth their > retail price? OBviously there are some very knowledgeable people on this > topic here- anyone know of a way to

Re: Anyone here use virtual PC?

Sorry, I can't help you then. On mine it works perfectly by moving the scripts. Andrew On 10/11/04 3:24 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I moved them with no luck. even copied everything from the one user's > preference folder to the other preference folder. Every time I

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I moved them with no luck. even copied everything from the one user's preference folder to the other preference folder. Every time I load VPC, even if i try to open the PC in question directly, I get sent to the PC setup assistant. there seems to be an option to use an existing PC in there, b

Re: Anyone here use virtual PC?

Yes, the trick is to put your VPC Scripts somewhere other than in your user's documents folder. I keep my scripts on a completely different hard drive (using my desktop), though any shared folder would be fine. Just double click on the actual PC (VPC document) to launch it. I have the Applescrip

Re: Anyone here use virtual PC?

I have SuSe Linux 9.1 on my VPC, but I haven't had any luck getting my networking set up. In Windows it works great from my Airport Extreme, but not in Linux. On 10/11/04 11:15 AM, "Steve Fuller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> It's not that easy. First of all, every "satisfied VPC user" has to >

Re: Anyone here use virtual PC?

I have a new question to add to the mix: Can I use one VPC PC between OS X screen names? I've tried it a few times, but thus far have had no luckgetting my other screen name to access the PC. Brian -- G-Books is sponsored by and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www

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It's not that easy. First of all, every "satisfied VPC user" has to have Windows license anyway. Second of all, if somebody likes what they see, they might switch to PCs in the next round. Not really. I know of people using VPC to run Linux or some other OS instead of windows. It's not all that

Re: Anyone here use virtual PC?

VPC is a nice add on for the mac, but definately not wirht the full retail price. BUt then again, what DOES MS sell that's worth their retail price? OBviously there are some very knowledgeable people on this topic here- anyone know of a way to tweak VPC so I can run this game? Keep in mind, t

Re: Anyone here use virtual PC?

If you are selling "VPC with Windows XP SP2" then there's 0 reason why you can't sell "VPC without Windows" If you have VPC ready to ship but are waiting for SP2 to be released, there's still no reason why you can't release the Windows 2000 version or the version without an OS. There are many r

Re: Anyone here use virtual PC?

One thing that is undeniable is that they are putting the screws to those who want to use their own version of Windows with VPC by delaying the release of the VPC without an OS. Understandable. One of the things that I am waiting for as well. If you have VPC ready to ship but are waiting for SP2

Re: Anyone here use virtual PC?

On Oct 11, 2004, at 9:51 AM, Steve Fuller wrote: Since it wasn't a huge amount of time between when they purchased the code from Connectix, do you suppose it maybe had to do with something as simple as a time crunch and not some ulterior motive. I'm not a Microsoft fanboy, but people that go out

Re: Anyone here use virtual PC?

My understanding is that most of the video stuff didn't make it into VPC7 (at least with this initial release). This is intentional from Micro$oft in order to bring Virtual PC to the same level as the rest of the Micro$oft range of products; loads of hype about new features, pull half of them jus

Re: Anyone here use virtual PC?

At 11:43 AM +0200 10/11/04, Larry le Mac wrote: From: Steve Fuller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> My understanding is that most of the video stuff didn't make it into VPC7 (at least with this initial release). This is intentional from Micro$oft in order to bring Virtual PC to the same level as the rest of

Re: Anyone here use virtual PC?

From: Steve Fuller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> My understanding is that most of the video stuff didn't make it into VPC7 (at least with this initial release). This is intentional from Micro$oft in order to bring Virtual PC to the same level as the rest of the Micro$oft range of products; loads of hype a

Re: Anyone here use virtual PC?

My understanding is that most of the video stuff didn't make it into VPC7 (at least with this initial release). That's correct. VPC still emulates a S3 Trio card. The Macintosh version is better in that it can give it more than 4 MB of RAM, but it doesn't help at all with gaming and is a nonsta

Re: Anyone here use virtual PC?

Make sure you install the VPC extensions into your Windows virtual machine. However, it won't help any. I think all VPC emulates non-accelerated video card. Games are going to suck performance wise. Pre-release hype was that VPC7 was going to make this better, but I don't think it'll ever be goo

Re: Anyone here use virtual PC?

On Oct 10, 2004, at 7:19 PM, Steve Fuller wrote: jsut the same: I'd like to run an older game, five years old to be exact, and the VPC software doesn't seem to be recognizing my vid card as a 3D card. I'm quite aware that VPC wasn't intedned as a gaming platform, but I had hoped to also use it

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jsut the same: I'd like to run an older game, five years old to be exact, and the VPC software doesn't seem to be recognizing my vid card as a 3D card. I'm quite aware that VPC wasn't intedned as a gaming platform, but I had hoped to also use it to run my very old copy of Starfleet Command.

Re: Anyone here use virtual PC?

Thanks, that did the trick- I'm now running Win 2K pro on my ibook, and it seems to be running great. One thing though, I wouldn't really call it a problem, since I'm sure that VPC wasn't designed with this in mind, but I'd like to know what I can do jsut the same: I'd like to run an older gam