plenty of stories about
people getting busted for software piracy that used the I didn't know
it was wrong defense.
I challenged you to provide one instance where that had occurred as a
result of an individual user selling a computer with an unlicensed OS
on it. I've never heard of individuals being
On 12/10/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 11:22 PM -0500 12/09/2005, Krow Magnum wrote:
On 12/9/05, macnifico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It is permisible to sell a computer with the OS only. The rules do
not specify that the OS should be the original one for the computer.
At 10:40 AM -0500 12/10/2005, Krow Magnum wrote:
Ok, just because I am not deemed authorized then it is legal and ok.
So it's legal as long as eBay says it is and nobody gets caught. And
as long as eBay can make money on it.
eBay just covers their collective butts by what they do. The law is
This is one of the dumbest threads ever to circulate. You all aren't
ever going to agree. What is the point?
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On Saturday, Dec 10, 2005, at 13:11 America/Chicago, Peter Webster
wrote:
This is one of the dumbest threads ever to circulate. You all aren't
ever going to agree. What is the point?
I do agree. My opinion is that it depends on the version of the OS. If
it's Panther or Tiger, yes, I do
on 10/12/05 14:11, Peter Webster at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is one of the dumbest threads ever to circulate. You all aren't
ever going to agree. What is the point?
Yes, I agree.
Folks, please, DROP THAT THREAD. I don't think it's going anywhere. But you
can continue to argue off-list.
I believe the point of leaving an operable OS on a used computer offered for
sale is that the machine is demonstrably working, and that it was when
shipped by the seller. Otherwise there'd be no standard of whether what was
sold to any of us was in operable condition when we bought it. This way,
I know this discussion has veered off this, but here it is anyway
(sorry, I'm on digest)
It is permisible by the eBay rules, to contact you about a similar
item being auctioned in eBay.
It is NOT permisible to contact you to offer you a similar item
by-passing eBay, (a private sale).
Spam is
In a message dated 12/9/05 1:22:31 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
One thing about the seller who has the iBook is that he is probably
reputable but just does not have the OS CD's to sell with it. Too many
eBay sellers sell computers with a newer OS but no CD's which is
software pirating and
It does not indicate piracy in any way. For example
when I upgraded tp Tiger I bought the family pack with
4 or 5 installs.
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In a message dated 12/9/05 1:22:31 PM,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
One thing about the seller who has the iBook is
that he is probably
On 12/9/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 12/9/05 1:22:31 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
One thing about the seller who has the iBook is that he is probably
reputable but just does not have the OS CD's to sell with it. Too many
eBay sellers sell computers with
On 12/9/05, john ryan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It does not indicate piracy in any way. For example
when I upgraded tp Tiger I bought the family pack with
4 or 5 installs.
And if you sell a Mac with one of those installs it should include a
license transfer with it and you will have one less
In a message dated 12/9/05 4:37:35 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
That's BS ! They are selling software without a license.
Alrighty then; thanks.
That must be the most broken law in the world then, because I rarely see a
computer on Ebay or anywhere else that has no software. Unless it is in
Most likely the proper thing to do..
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On Dec 9, 2005, at 4:41 PM, Krow Magnum
of anyone's honesty or not; what
about situations where individuals are selling their personal
laptops after being
upgraded? Doesn't the act of piracy require some requisite mental state?
No. There are plenty of stories of people getting busted for
software piracy who've claimed they didn't know
On 12/9/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 12/9/05 4:37:35 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
That's BS ! They are selling software without a license.
Alrighty then; thanks.
That must be the most broken law in the world then, because I rarely see a
computer on
On 12/9/05, Clark Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No. There are plenty of stories of people getting busted for
software piracy who've claimed they didn't know it was wrong. That
defense rarely works.
Why don't we start with one story? I've never, ever heard of a
computer company coming
At 4:28 PM -0500 12/09/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 12/9/05 1:22:31 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
One thing about the seller who has the iBook is that he is probably
reputable but just does not have the OS CD's to sell with it. Too many
eBay sellers sell computers with a
At 4:41 PM -0500 12/09/2005, Krow Magnum wrote:
On 12/9/05, john ryan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It does not indicate piracy in any way. For example
when I upgraded tp Tiger I bought the family pack with
4 or 5 installs.
And if you sell a Mac with one of those installs it should include a
At 4:43 PM -0500 12/09/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That must be the most broken law in the world then, because I rarely see a
computer on Ebay or anywhere else that has no software.
ya. Same. A widely abused reading of the fair use clause.
Unless it is in parts or missing the hard
At 4:54 PM -0500 12/09/2005, Krow Magnum wrote:
It probably is one of the most broken laws but don't connect eBay with
legality. eBay lets lots of things go on that are not legal.
eBay is like a common carrier. The provide a venue, not legal
responsibility for the goods sold[*]. It is
On 12/9/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 4:41 PM -0500 12/09/2005, Krow Magnum wrote:
On 12/9/05, john ryan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It does not indicate piracy in any way. For example
when I upgraded tp Tiger I bought the family pack with
4 or 5 installs.
And if you
At 5:07 PM -0500 12/09/2005, Tom W. wrote:
On 12/9/05, Clark Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No. There are plenty of stories of people getting busted for
software piracy who've claimed they didn't know it was wrong. That
defense rarely works.
Why don't we start with one story? I've
Hi, Listers!
It is permisible by the eBay rules, to contact you about a similar
item being auctioned in eBay.
It is NOT permisible to contact you to offer you a similar item
by-passing eBay, (a private sale).
It is permisible to sell a computer with the OS only. The rules do
not specify that
On 12/9/05, macnifico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi, Listers!
It is permisible to sell a computer with the OS only. The rules do
not specify that the OS should be the original one for the computer.
Where did you find that ? The original OS is a license issue, not an
ebay issue. If the OS
At 5:07 PM -0500 12/9/05, Tom W. wrote:
On 12/9/05, Clark Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No. There are plenty of stories of people getting busted for
software piracy who've claimed they didn't know it was wrong. That
defense rarely works.
Why don't we start with one story? I've never
Every Mac sold has some OS shipped with it and it is legal to sell it with
the same OS on the computer it shipped with.
Tom
On 12/9/05 10:35 PM, Clark Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why don't we start with one story? I've never, ever heard of a
computer company coming after a user who sold
At 9:30 PM -0600 12/09/2005, macnifico wrote:
In more than a thousand eBay transactions, only ONCE did the seller
sent me a letter transferring something to me. Really, he included
the disks and a letter of transfer. Only one guy, in more than 300
computers and programs bought through eBay
At 11:22 PM -0500 12/09/2005, Krow Magnum wrote:
On 12/9/05, macnifico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It is permisible to sell a computer with the OS only. The rules do
not specify that the OS should be the original one for the computer.
Where did you find that ? The original OS is a license
At 8:35 PM -0800 12/09/2005, Clark Martin wrote:
At 5:07 PM -0500 12/9/05, Tom W. wrote:
I know people get busted for duplicating software and then selling
it, but a home user selling his computer getting hunted down by the
police?
I don't think so.
Ah, the old it's only illegal if you get
On Dec 9, 2005, at 5:09 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 4:41 PM -0500 12/09/2005, Krow Magnum wrote:
On 12/9/05, john ryan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It does not indicate piracy in any way. For example when I
upgraded tp Tiger I bought the family pack with 4 or 5 installs.
And if you sell
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