Re: [Audyssey] swamp v1.1 recording

2013-03-24 Thread john
I was having some difficulty getting the link to work, that might be the reason. Here's a new one: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/85682400/sswamp11.mp3 - Original Message - From: Kaveinthran Pulanthran kavein2...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date sent: Sun, 24 Mar

Re: [Audyssey] Aprones games was Re: Looking For Something New toPlay

2013-03-24 Thread dark
Well, while I'm sorry to hear about the security business (some peoplle are just idiots), I'm glad the Ai is working and that things are progressing. As I said, i don't personally resent the time spent on swamp, it's a genre of games we've not had playable in audio, indeed when i get back to my

Re: [Audyssey] replayability and Usa games was Re: Looking For Something New to Play

2013-03-24 Thread dark
Hi michael. I wasn't intending my comments about Tom's games to be insulting, nor would I want Tom to rush out a game on a whim that might be substandard, it's just that when talking of game design quality that gives a game that something that makes you want to replay it even after! you have

Re: [Audyssey] patience - Re: replayability and Usa games was Re:Looking ForSomething New to Play

2013-03-24 Thread dark
I Very much agree on all points their Charlese, the fact that Tom keeps us informed is great. As I said, my comments weren't intended as a cryticism, just a statement of feeling and support in Tom's design ability. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org

Re: [Audyssey] Aprones games was Re: Looking For Something NewtoPlay

2013-03-24 Thread dark
Hi aprone. I can imagine hackers trying to muck up the game to cheat, but to do it simply to cause trouble is down right scummy, particularly because it's likely these hackers are probably visually impared themselves since they wouldn't have heard of the game otherwise, which makes it doubly

Re: [Audyssey] Looking For Something New to Play

2013-03-24 Thread dark
Hi john. As regards castaways, I'm afraid I disagree, not that it isn't small, but that it is complete. Myself, I'd love! to see a full castaways Ii with similar mechanics, but on a far larger scale, so that you could go from your small population of survivers, right up to a full city,

Re: [Audyssey] Aprones games was Re: Looking For Something NewtoPlay

2013-03-24 Thread Jeremy Kaldobsky
Dark, From sighted indie games of my past, I'm used to the idea of hackers trying to ruin everyone's fun, so that doesn't upset me as much as others might think. Yeah it does annoy me, but I don't take it quite as personal as maybe I should, just because I've seen it for so many years.

Re: [Audyssey] wargames was Aprones games

2013-03-24 Thread dark
A fun game Al, though really if it simulated a nuclear war, the one with surviving population should then draw the card radioactive death! and lose all their population :D. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to

Re: [Audyssey] Aprones games was Re: Looking For Something NewtoPlay

2013-03-24 Thread Dennis Towne
Jeremy, It's highly unlikely that the attacks you're seeing are from your players. There's not really any incentive for them, and direct attacks are so easy to track back that if it were one of your players, you should be able to smash them easily. I say this because we get literally thousands

Re: [Audyssey] Aprones games was Re: Looking For Something NewtoPlay

2013-03-24 Thread dark
Wow, that's even scummier than I thought, some people are just naturally vandals. one thing I do wonder however, is how games like Alteraeon, cor exiles, kingdom of laothing etc stay up. Perhaps, it would be worth having words with dentin, the Ce dev (I can pass on her mail if you like), and

Re: [Audyssey] Aprones games was Re: Looking For Something NewtoPlay

2013-03-24 Thread Jeremy Kaldobsky
Dennis, they do trace back to actual players. I know that the internet is swarmed with automated attacks, and I ignore those as well. I'm specifically referring to attacks that easily trace back to Swamp players that have been banned. One of the 2 recent attacks left enough information that

Re: [Audyssey] wargames was Aprones games

2013-03-24 Thread Allan Thompson
Hi Dark, As a matter of fact, if I remember reading about the card game, it's directions statethat there is no winners, lol. I think that would make a fun audio game. It's days like this I wish I could program, grin. al The truth will set you free Jesus Christ of Nazareth 33A.D. -

Re: [Audyssey] Aprones games was Re: Looking For Something NewtoPlay

2013-03-24 Thread Dennis Towne
Dark, It's not really vandals. It's the botnet guys, and they don't care one whit about mudding or audio games or anything else. All they're trying to do is get machines that they can add to their botnet. The basic idea is that the bad guys get a huge number of computers under central control,

Re: [Audyssey] Aprones games was Re: Looking For Something NewtoPlay

2013-03-24 Thread enes
hi aprone, since most of these hackers are chinese maybe they chinese government offers free hacking courses for these people since now you are a potential target for them especially after swampnet you probably should consider getting a firewall or something for your other computers you

Re: [Audyssey] Aprones games was Re: Looking For Something NewtoPlay

2013-03-24 Thread Dennis Towne
Jeremy, That's pretty weird. I haven't seen a machine based attack worth talking about from my player base in nearly fifteen years, and in that case I just called up his provider and got his accounts revoked. I'm sure there have been other hack attempts, but I'd have to waste time rooting

Re: [Audyssey] Aprones games was Re: Looking For Something NewtoPlay

2013-03-24 Thread Jeremy Kaldobsky
I haven't contacted any providers lately because it hasn't been helping. The last few times I bothered to contact anyone the information traced back to small businesses (coffee shop type things) or schools, and they just ignored me. I doubt they care to lose any business over some random guy

Re: [Audyssey] Aprones games was Re: Looking For Something NewtoPlay

2013-03-24 Thread Willem Venter
hi all. While the internet offers its own anonymity and someone can change their IP address and login name the audio gaming community is still a small one. I think that the well established audio game makers who have evidence about specific gamers should publish it in order to warn other people.

Re: [Audyssey] Aprones games was Re: Looking For Something NewtoPlay

2013-03-24 Thread shaun everiss
true sometimes we get lucky and some contry mainly the us manages with a lot of mucking about over several years of looking round to close one botnet down, however they only seem to go after the majorly serious ones, so sertainly going after these bad guys is quite resource hungry. I think

Re: [Audyssey] Aprones games was Re: Looking For Something NewtoPlay

2013-03-24 Thread shaun everiss
china does get a bad wrap but they seem to be at the forefrunt of a lot of the goings on these days saying that they make all the computers and other things they basically have taken over most of the world. wouldn't make sence to get anymore. At 07:59 AM 3/25/2013, you wrote: hi aprone, since

Re: [Audyssey] Aprones games was Re: Looking For Something NewtoPlay

2013-03-24 Thread shaun everiss
on that note I'd like to see a game that would have stratogy, puzzles, action, adventure and maybe a few other things put into one at some point down the road. ofcause it would be massive. At 08:42 AM 3/25/2013, you wrote: I haven't contacted any providers lately because it hasn't been

Re: [Audyssey] Aprones games was Re: Looking For Something NewtoPlay

2013-03-24 Thread john
Is this a case of we only have so long left, or do you think they'll eventually give up? - Original Message - From: Jeremy Kaldobsky jer...@kaldobsky.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date sent: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 12:42:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Aprones games

Re: [Audyssey] Aprones games was Re: Looking For Something NewtoPlay

2013-03-24 Thread john
That's an interesting idea. I just wonder if we aren't already to big of a group for that to work effectively.. - Original Message - From: Willem Venter dwill...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date sent: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 22:28:19 +0200 Subject: Re: [Audyssey]

Re: [Audyssey] a little article

2013-03-24 Thread Ron Kolesar
Hi Been. Just read your article. I agree on one major point. We here in the states should put as much and or even more into audio games that we place for the high graphics for the sighted player. Like yourself, GG was the first game I purchased as well. Thanks to a friend of mine who lives on

Re: [Audyssey] Looking For Something New to Play

2013-03-24 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, Yeah, that would be awesome. I can see where Castaways could grow and be bigger and better than the current version if Aprone wants to go in that direction. We will have to see of course, but I too would like to be able to build a full sized city, perhaps engage in trade with other

Re: [Audyssey] Looking For Something New to Play

2013-03-24 Thread john
Heh, that would be a lot of names on the list. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date sent: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 18:23:02 -0400 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Looking For Something New to Play Hi Dark, Yeah, that would

Re: [Audyssey] replayability and Usa games was Re: Looking For Something New to Play

2013-03-24 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, Thanks for saying that. If I can make my games enjoyable,, replayable, then I think I've succeeded as a game designer. It is the sort of games that a person plays once, completes it in a few hours, and finds they have no desire to replay the game I would consider a failure. There are, of

Re: [Audyssey] replayability and Usa games was Re: Looking For Something New to Play

2013-03-24 Thread Devin Prater
Yes, from what I've seen, they aren't. Now if only we had a game engine for everyone that was inclusive of other operating systems? Would one have to own a mac to even code/compile for it? Wait, Java works on everything right? But then, most audio games use TTS that other systems don't have, so

Re: [Audyssey] replayability and Usa games was Re: Looking For Something New to Play

2013-03-24 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, You aren't the only one who is frustrated. None more so than me since the last few months I've fallen into a kind of funk. One where time has no meaning as such. What I mean by that I might work heavily on the game on February 12, and then discover the next time I work on the game it is

[Audyssey] killing replay value - Re: replayability and Usa games was Re: Looking For Something New to Play

2013-03-24 Thread Charles Rivard
Another thing that I see all the time is this: A new game comes out at 10 this morning. By eleven, gamers are asking the list for help through something they have stumbled into. Even if I know the answer, I will not tell them yet. Part of the challenge of a game is to work on it on! your!

Re: [Audyssey] replayability and Usa games was Re: Looking For Something New to Play

2013-03-24 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Devin, Cross-compiling and developing for other operating systems is a highly complex subject. There are a lot of difficulties in choosing the right language, right APIs, and even then there are differences between the operating systems that makes it impossible to come up with a so-called one

Re: [Audyssey] replayability and Usa games was Re: Looking For Something New to Play

2013-03-24 Thread Devin Prater
Wow. Well, Windows, mac and maybe iOS is a fine triplet to go for, but now I see how hard it is. Maybe I'll get a windows VM, or if bootcamp is accessible I'll get a windows cd to make a partition for that. Maybe give it 100GB, to fit the games I like. Devin Prater r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com On

Re: [Audyssey] Aprones games was Re: Looking For Something NewtoPlay

2013-03-24 Thread dark
Hi Dennis. Well that doesn't surprise me, not with the amount of spambots we regularly have to boot off the forums on audiogames.net, though I never actually realized the same people were behind full attacks on servers, I thought their main purpose was to generate E-mail or other forms of

Re: [Audyssey] Looking For Something New to Play

2013-03-24 Thread dark
Hi Tom. Castaways actually surprised me very much. i'd not been that much of a fan of resource management stratogy games before then, since most of those I'd tried had been online pvp ones like the old fantasy empires, or purely strategical military games. In those sorts of games the gameplay

Re: [Audyssey] replayability and Usa games was Re: Looking For Something New to Play

2013-03-24 Thread dark
Hi Tom. I'm sorry to hear about the various problems and bugs, and in fairness no coding or writing when ill is not possible, but at the same time part of the point of my message was to offer some encouragement, albeit some encouragement with a little tinge of frustration. At this point I

Re: [Audyssey] killing replay value - Re: replayability and Usa gameswas Re: Looking For Something New to Play

2013-03-24 Thread dark
Hi Charles. While I agree some people ak for hints a little too soon, I do believe that situation is a little more complex. For example, I have seen people ask about castaways, since they just cannot get the stratogy aspect of the game out correctly, they for instance create one person of

Re: [Audyssey] replayability and Usa games was Re: Looking For Something New to Play

2013-03-24 Thread shaun everiss
hmm I am not as up with the play as I should be. It depends on the types of games that would work. python works with macs pcs both windows and linux. I know there is the mono dotnet opensource framework and thats supposed to work with everything with the same features as the windows dotnet

[Audyssey] Inquisitor, Ios or pc?

2013-03-24 Thread dark
Hi. Now that my production is finished and I am no longer having to think of ways to pretend to be a snooty English Lord on stage, I would like to try this inquisitor game that people have been talking about. however, I was wondering what version to get and what the various differences were.

Re: [Audyssey] replayability and Usa games was Re: Looking For Something New to Play

2013-03-24 Thread shaun everiss
to be honest it may be easier at this point if you just gave an old crappy directx8 version with all the sound as it was 3 years back to people that payed for it maybe the one you had to stop because of copywrite or its levels and change the title and drop it. I know thats probably not what

Re: [Audyssey] killing replay value - Re: replayability and Usa games was Re: Looking For Something New to Play

2013-03-24 Thread shaun everiss
hmmm charles thats interesting. There are 2 answers, a long slightly technical one and a shorter user type of answer. 1. we are blind everything needs to be easy because we are blind and that is the way it is. 2. Lame answer ha? THe truth is that blind games when they started were never

Re: [Audyssey] killing replay value - Re: replayability and Usagameswas Re: Looking For Something New to Play

2013-03-24 Thread Charles Rivard
I can see where people get stumped by a puzzle or situation in a game, but not within 10 or 15 minutes. And, in a lot of cases, their answer is in the user's guide which they never even bother to look through. Strategy tips are one thing, solutions are another. --- Shepherds are the best

Re: [Audyssey] Inquisitor, Ios or pc?

2013-03-24 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Dark, Both versions are pretty comparable. I think they have the same content. THe main determinants are price and controls. iOS has a somewhat finicky navigation system, but it isn't too difficult to learn. Mac, and presumably PC, have keyboard controls which seem a bit arbitrary but aren't

[Audyssey] catch 22 - Re: Inquisitor, Ios or pc?

2013-03-24 Thread Charles Rivard
Some of your questions bring up a good point. I would like to see a link to the user's guide of a game on their site, whoever the game is produced by. There are things in the user's guide that you should know before, rather than after, a game has been installed, but you don't get installation

Re: [Audyssey] Inquisitor, Ios or pc?

2013-03-24 Thread Bryan Peterson
I actually wrote to the developer a couple days back regarding wat I figured was a bug in the newest IOS version. THe way the IOS version works is that you navigate the menu by taping the screen with one finger until you find the item you want, then tap with two fingers to select it. The issue

Re: [Audyssey] killing replay value - Re: replayability andUsagameswas Re: Looking For Something New to Play

2013-03-24 Thread dark
Well charlse, that is unfortunately true. For me at least, I actually enjoy reading the game instructions. I suppose it's because growing up, I never got to read the manuals for games, being that they were always in print and thus inaccessible to me, indeed one of the first really fun uses I

Re: [Audyssey] catch 22 - Re: Inquisitor, Ios or pc?

2013-03-24 Thread dark
Hi Charlse. Yes, users guides including installation instructions always seems amusing to me too, though I imagine this comes from the old dos days in which you would! always have to read how to install the game before doing so. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __

Re: [Audyssey] Inquisitor, Ios or pc?

2013-03-24 Thread dark
Hi Bryan. that sounds odd, especially since people have obviously finished the Ios version, though it might make the decision for me :d. Still, I'd like to find out first if I could. That menue nav system sounds a trifle clunky to me unless you could somehow go back through items, since if