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2010-12-01 Thread Stephen Manuel
I am usually not that critical of coaches, but I'm putting all the problems this year on Urban Meyer. He's the one who hired the coaches, he assigns them to their areas of coaching, he made the final decision on who got scholarship offers, etc.. I was listening to Pat Dooley on Jacksonville

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2010-12-01 Thread Steve McKibben
Agreed. I think that some of the hiring and assignation of duties occurred at a time when his personal health was being given priority over the health of the program. Now he'll have to either assert the level of control required for the team to look and act like a team again, or else

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2010-12-01 Thread Woody
A few national championships in a short tenure has earned him some time to prove otherwise. Yes... this is squarely on his shoulders. He was sick.. he took time off. Fine. Addazio kept things together.. but he had too much on his plate. Thats squarely on Urban and sorry.. its on Foley too...

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2010-12-01 Thread Jay Cicone
I'm in 100% agreement. Meyer gives it 110% or he goes. $4 mill a year isn't a part time job. If his health is bad, he's got enough money to retire. If he can't give 110%, regardless of the reason, we need to find someone who can. This year's travesty---yes, I mean we looked more disorganized

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2010-12-01 Thread Arthur Polhill
I agree that much needs to be done, Woody; and I'm sure Meyer is aware of that too.  I think the reason recruiting came up first is that it is where football programs are in the work-cycle.  Signing day is fast approaching.  He'll get to the other things.  A. Leon Polhill, Gator I was gratified

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2010-12-01 Thread Woody
Thats just it... it all needs to happen fast. If he's gonna go after more assistants or another OC... he needs to find em and snag em up fast and get them involved ASAP. Woody On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Arthur Polhill lpolh...@bellsouth.netwrote: I agree that much needs to be done,

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2010-12-01 Thread Helen Huntley
* * * * It's a defensive player who doesn't serve and who wears a different colored shirt. They started using it in college volleyball a few years ago. Here are some libero rules, but I don't know if the college rules are exactly the same as these. * * *M* *LIBERO

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2010-12-01 Thread Helen Huntley
Here's a good story explaining the role as designated digger http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/18/AR2007091801847.html It gives short people a chance to play volleyball. On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 11:00 AM, John Vega zebu...@gate.net wrote: On Dec 1, 2010, at 8:40 AM,

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2010-12-01 Thread John Vega
On Dec 1, 2010, at 11:20 AM, Helen Huntley wrote: Here's a good story explaining the role as designated digger http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/18/ AR2007091801847.html It gives short people a chance to play volleyball. Nice article. Good pun on the libero media

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2010-12-01 Thread Oliver Barry
Although the departure of so many assistant coaches bothers me I feel the problems of this season are temporary. Meyer has resurrected 3 programs in his career. He has lost coaches with every change. His OC, at Utah, Kyle Whittingham, went on to be successful there. I agree Meyer could be a

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2010-12-01 Thread Helen Huntley
I forgot to say-- Regarding the booster clubs--- I think that Urban never put out the effort to build good will with the fans. The fans liked him anyway because he won. Now that he's not winning, there's no underlying feeling of good will to fall back on. Even though SOS did not like going to

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2010-12-01 Thread Steve McKibben
FWIW - the term sweeper was first used in sports in soccer. It usually referred to the last defender, whose role was different from the other defenders because his primary responsibility wasn't to guard ( or man mark) a particular attacker on the other team, but to clean up, or sweep the

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2010-12-01 Thread Woody
To be honest Helen... because we have seen/heard reports of how emotional Meyer has been in the past... and of course how critical ppl were of him for it... he probably didnt wanna get emotional on camera for millions to see. Is that a good excuse? (shrugs) Would what said really made any

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2010-12-01 Thread Jay Cicone
Well said. From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Manuel Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 11:57 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] GatorNews From The Gainesville SUN For 11/30 at 7:00AM, Courtesy of

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2010-12-01 Thread Steve McKibben
On a macro level, my experience was just the opposite. There are/could be extenuating factors however, so read into this what you will. The Brevard County Gator Club isn't very high up on the pecking order. Last year, when Addazio was filling in for Meyer on the circuit, we got Pat Dooley as

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2010-12-01 Thread Oliver Barry
I'll say one thing about Erin Fleming, after reading the article about her, I'm impressed that she's a true Gator! She came to school as a walk-on, then gave up her scholarship so the team could recruit another athlete. That's something, especially when you consider she's probably not going on

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2010-12-01 Thread Stephen Manuel
A couple of more thoughts. IMO, players on a team know who is the real deal and who isn't . I mean these guys see each other in practice and know who should be playing. In the F$U game, Jordan Reed came in the game and we went right down the field looking like a real offense, insert

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2010-12-01 Thread jlimb
I recall another play where Brantley scrambled and got sacked, and two or three OL threw their arms up in disgust. I know Meyer believes in different treatment for different players, but it looks like it's come back to bite him. There needs to be a fine balance between giving a guy some

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2010-12-01 Thread Jerry Belloit
Woody, Urban Meyer keeps a short list of possible coaches at all times just like Foley keeps a short list of head coaches for all sports. I think Foley got caught when he had to hire Zook so I think he has kept a short list ever since. I am sure Urban has already likely made a call or two.

[gatortalk] the earth is round

2010-12-01 Thread John Vega
…so I hear…. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve

RE: [gatortalk] the earth is round

2010-12-01 Thread Jay Cicone
...the grass is green...nothing definitive yet From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Vega Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 4:26 PM To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] the earth is round ...so I hear -- GATORS: ONE

Re: [gatortalk] brantley looking to transfer

2010-12-01 Thread Shane Ford
Jay, is it looking or praying?  :-) From: Jay Cicone jay.cic...@raymondjames.com To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, December 1, 2010 3:22:35 PM Subject: [gatortalk] brantley looking to transfer …so I hear….-- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE

Re: [gatortalk] the earth is round

2010-12-01 Thread Scott Lucas
I need a drink or 10... confirmed. From: Jay Cicone jay.cic...@raymondjames.com To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, December 1, 2010 4:29:15 PM Subject: RE: [gatortalk] the earth is round …the grass is green…nothing definitive yet

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2010-12-01 Thread Jerry Belloit
To add to this Oliver, her parents apparently struggle to pay the tuition. Jerry From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Oliver Barry Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 12:41 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Re:

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2010-12-01 Thread Jerry Belloit
Thanks, Helen. I also confess to not knowing the term. I always wondered why some players had a different color jersey as well. I guess I will get that question on Trivial Pursuit now. Jerry From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Helen Huntley

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2010-12-01 Thread Jay Cicone
More like begging. :-0 I got a bunch of Waffle House chef's hats this morning. I'm mailing some to Meyer with job applications so he can hand them out at the next staff meeting. From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shane Ford Sent: Wednesday,

RE: [gatortalk] the earth is round

2010-12-01 Thread Ken Kirkley
Not here it isn't. It is brown if you can find it beneath the white stuff. Ken K MNGator _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jay Cicone Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 3:29 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk]

RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] Pick 'em results

2010-12-01 Thread John Bowers
Probably that's due to a few 'push' games. When the final score hits the point spread exactly on the nose, the game is called a 'push' and both teams get counted for a 'win'.at least that's what we do in Pick 'em to try to help people get better records! In real wagering, they just refund

[gatortalk] oooookay....

2010-12-01 Thread Scott Lucas
Delaware is nice... -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners:

Re: [gatortalk] oooookay....

2010-12-01 Thread Woody Bass
??? On Dec 1, 2010, at 6:21 PM, Scott Lucas wrote: Delaware is nice... -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football

RE: [gatortalk] oooookay....

2010-12-01 Thread Charlie
I think it's part of that old states joke. What did Delaware? Answer: She wore her new brass key or something like that. _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Woody Bass Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 6:30 PM To:

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2010-12-01 Thread Randy Lyons
You need to go back on the radio with this. Randy From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Manuel Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 9:02 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] GatorNews From The Gainesville

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2010-12-01 Thread Randy Lyons
Hmm. Sounds like we've identified the problem and it's being corrected. Randy snip, snip, snip-- Urban Meyer said on his television show Sunday that the Gators needed to fix some things between now and next season. He wasn't specific, but it's pretty obvious

RE: [gatortalk] oooookay....

2010-12-01 Thread Jay Cicone
exactly...that's what I was hearing...we'll see From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com on behalf of Scott Lucas Sent: Wed 12/1/2010 6:21 PM To: Gator Talk Subject: [gatortalk] okay Delaware is nice... -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!

Re: [gatortalk] the earth is round

2010-12-01 Thread Arthur Polhill
and I will await your report as long as the grass grows and the sky is blue.  A. Leon Polhill, Gator I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know. - Mark Twain From: Jay Cicone jay.cic...@raymondjames.com To: