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Dear Incubator, Please check this IP-Clearance form (see
http://incubator.staging.apache.org/ip-clearance/uima-ducc.html ).
The form looks to be in order.
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what you are currently calling the
Incubator Committer solution into something which can achieve consensus.
It is not necessarily going to be easy to get that proposal as close as this
one has come, but let's try.
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the opportunity costs.
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Here is my proposal - see if invoking the old experiment (making a pdling
PPMC member into an IPMC member) has the expected and proven effect.
Good plan. That's what we tried first. It was a dud[2].
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On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 12:33 AM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote:
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I think this is getting too hung up on vetting releases is the be all and
end all of PMC membership when really there are other just
will be
supportive of other means which achieve similar ends.
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On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote:
If I've done everything right, it should be possible for Infra to flip the
switch and use new-style dist.apache.org synchronization at the incubator/
level.
Infra flipped the switch today. We now use
Greetings,
The Incubator PMC has voted to invite Dave Brondsema, of the Allura
podling and the Forrest PMC, to join its ranks. Dave has accepted our
invitation.
Welcome aboard, Dave!
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Greetings,
The Incubator PMC has voted to offer membership to Till Westmann of
the VXQuery podling, and he has accepted.
Thanks for joining up, Till!
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the mirrors, though I don't know whether there might be a pointless one-time
sync cost caused by file datestamp changes.
After that, we can nudge the graduated TLPs to come back and pick up after
themselves.
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the matter of dealing with TLPs who still need to link to
incubating releases. Jake and I were talking on IRC about giving them a
deadline to move needed releases to their own dist area, after which we svn
remove their dirs. Two weeks notice seems enough to me, WDYT?
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the acute
problem of what to do when mentors get too busy.
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Then, if they don't take care of things in a week or two, we move ahead with
migrating the artifacts to dist.apache.org, rather than let ourselves be
blocked.
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/incubator/`, you don't have
to be an IPMC member.
Any takers?
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weigh in -- so we'd all really appreciate it if you can make the
time.
I'm not comfortable casting a freelance vote, but if it would help, I can make
time to perform some superficial review.
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-reporting group=2/
+reporting group=2 monthly=trueDecember/reporting
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Shepherd reviews extracted from
https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/November2013:
Ambari
Roman Shaposhnik (rvs):
Project should be pretty close to a well deserved graduation. Kudos to
the community building effort!
BatchEE
Suresh Marru
.
I'd like to volunteer to help you guys out next month.
Excellent. I see that you've added yourself to shepherds.json while I was
writing this -- thanks for signing up!
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_man%27s_switch
would need to execute --
analogous to a release runbook.
I'd meant to have all this stuff done two months ago, but other Incubator
Chair responsibilities kept eating my time. I think it's important for future
Chairs that we lighten the load of preparing the monthly report.
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On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 8:05 PM, Justin Mclean justinmcl...@gmail.com wrote:
Just added myself. I've seen a project though incubation, I'm a PMC member
and been a release manager.
Sweet, Justin's on board. Great to have you!
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, and subsequent releases have votes from inside the
group.
+1 to your summary, Benson. We're on the same page.
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Greets,
Apache Member Daniel Gruno (humbedooh) has joined the Incubator PMC.
Welcome!
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]. Not something that
has to be resolved for the release, though IMO.
Except for the file `DEPENDENCIES`, the archive contents matches the release
tag[2].
All dependencies have compatible licensing.
Sums and sigs look good[3].
+1 (binding)
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we reverse that: look for a podling contributor whose vote deserves
to be binding *first*, and only consider bringing in an outsider as a last
resort?
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On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 11:59 PM, Ross Gardler
rgard...@opendirective.com wrote:
On 7 November 2013 22:22, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote:
1. Start with a Board resolution establishing a pTLP PMC seeded with IPMC
members.
2. Vote podling contributors onto the PMC
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Andreas Neumann a...@apache.org wrote:
[ ] +1 Accept Twill into the Incubator
[ ] +0 Don't care.
[ ] -1 Don't accept Twill because...
+1 (binding)
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about things like whether releases
should go in the Incubator's release area, whether the pTLP is a podling (it
is), or whether it is incubating (it is).
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with everything we
believe at Apache about self-governance. It produces inferior releases, an
inferior incubation experience, inferior students and an inferior ASF. We
should change it.
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person gets voted in as Podling Chair, are we OK with the
podling's increasing IPMC representation? (I think that could have the
desirable side effect of encouraging project founders to give up the Podling
Chair position for the greater good of the podling.)
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was awkwardly crafted, I wound up singling out the
Allura team in a negative context. I apologize for my clumsiness.
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. Just because you and I had to walk to
school barefoot in the snow uphill both ways doesn't mean that our children
should have to. :)
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On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 7:33 PM, Raphael Bircher r.birc...@gmx.ch wrote:
Am 04.11.13 04:23, schrieb Marvin Humphrey:
Shepherd assignments, which are generated automatically via a new Python
script as of this cycle, are also on the wiki page.
Can you correct my first name? Raphael with ph
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 12:59 AM, Jakob Frank ja...@apache.org wrote:
[ ] +1 Graduate the Marmotta podling from Incubator
[ ] +0 Indifferent to graduation status of the Marmotta podling
[ ] -1 Reject graduation of the Marmotta podling from Incubator because...
+1
Happy trails,
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opportunity to
give them the attention they deserve.
Shepherd assignments, which are generated automatically via a new Python
script as of this cycle, are also on the wiki page.
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-by-line check of the whole thing.)
I look forward to voting in favor of Marmotta's graduation. I also look
forward to encountering you folks around the rest of Apache -- including, if
we're lucky, here in the Incubator.
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office, it will be vital to emphasize
communicating on the dev list so that potential contributors never feel as
though they've been left out of the loop. (I'm reminded of Aurora, which
entered incubation with 7 Twitter employees as the initial committers[1].)
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to.
It is preventing other people from working.
Same with podlings.xml. I don't suppose DeltaSpike is ever going to perform
the post-graduation cleanup -- they're going to be getting incubating
reporting reminders forever. Also, somebody's dropped the ball with BatchEE.
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provoking.
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for or against
it.
I rarely perform freelance release reviews any more because the current system
infuriates me and I do not wish to spend my volunteer time perpetuating it.
However, I'm pleased that the opportunity arose to contribute via the ODC-BY
licencing question.
Good luck,
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[ ] +1 Retire the Tashi podling
[ ] +0 Neither here nor there
[ ] -1 Do not retire the podling because ...
The VOTE passes, with binding +1 votes from the following IPMC members:
Alan D. Cabrera
Chip
Greets,
Here is a compendium of shepherd commentary from the Incubator's October 2013
report.
Three podlings reporting this month were not assigned shepherds and are not
included: Chukwa, jclouds and Storm.
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Celix
Shepherd notes
from ourselves first.
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If you have a report already prepared, please go ahead. If not, feel free to
wait until next month to file, allowing time for mentor signoff and the
shepherding cycle.
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dates, shepherd assignments, and a link to the
wiki page.
* Persuade the other Marvin to send out reminders to individual podling
dev lists exactly one week before their reports are due.
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would it take to get those reminders
firing with unerring reliability three weeks before the Board meeting? Is it
realistic to attempt a patch eliminating the need for an svn password?
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comments from this
month's report and send them to general@incubator in one bunch -- so
filing your report on the wiki is best as it will go both to the board
and to the mailing list without further ado.
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On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Raphael Bircher r.birc...@gmx.ch wrote:
Am 04.10.13 21:30, schrieb Marvin Humphrey:
On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 12:18 PM, Raphael Bircher r.birc...@gmx.ch wrote:
I need edit right on the incubator wiki for shepherding.
Please let us know your login
On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 12:09 AM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote:
On 10/2/13 12:58 PM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote:
Rather than a rewrite, I suggest proposing small, incremental, reversible
changes. Governance is easy to mess up.
Well, small, incremental was hard to do
as a result of this
technicality if nobody else does, so please carry on.
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(most will do it badly because they have not had the
experience of the Apache group which coalesced around the HTTPD project) but
that's beside the point. I submit that a more effective mechanism for
bequeathing Apache culture is needed.
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rather than MUST write
bylaws. Dunno if a Board resolution is needed.
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Apache Member and Apache Camel PMC Chair Christian Müller has joined
the Incubator PMC.
Welcome!
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the podling because ...
This vote will remain open for at least the next 72 hours.
Here is my +1.
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of this coming weekend. I
plan to email a compendium to general@incubator on Monday to allow time for
comment before the Incubator report is delivered to the Board on Wednesday.
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On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Dave snoopd...@gmail.com wrote:
I would like to call for a new vote on Usergrid, a multi-tenant
Backend-as-a-Service stack for web mobile applications based on RESTful
APIs, as an Apache Incubator podling.
+1 (binding)
Good luck!
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delicate discussions about meritocracy and openness
until incubation is underway.
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On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Dave snoopd...@gmail.com wrote:
My username is DaveJohnson
Done.
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On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Debo Dutta (dedutta) dedu...@cisco.com wrote:
Mine is DeboDutta
Done.
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On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 4:10 PM, Niranjan Karunanandham
niranjan.k...@gmail.com wrote:
My wiki username is Niranjan Karunanandham. Please add as a Contributor
with permission to edit the Incubator wiki.
Done.
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On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Jake Farrell jfarr...@apache.org wrote:
Can I please be added as a contributor to the incubator wiki
Username: jfarrell
Done.
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the motivations, costs and
benefits of various alternatives.
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, that would be great.)
Celix
Chukwa
DeviceMap
Helix
jclouds
Marmotta
MetaModel
ODF Toolkit
Olingo
Ripple
Samza
Sentry
Spark
Storm
Stratos
Tashi
VXQuery
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. Alternatively, Mentors
will advise on how to make the change once the proposal has been accepted
if this is appropriate.
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On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 3:48 AM, Raphael Bircher r.birc...@gmx.ch wrote:
Means, I'm willing to take over a slot. I'm Committer and PMC Member of
Apache OpenOffice.
Thanks for volunteering! I've added your name to the list:
https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/IncubatorShepherds
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enough outside the norm to require removal. The norm
being: whether anybody performs any quality control at all on a given
convenenience binary is a crapshoot.
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suddenly causing the key needed for an old release to become unavailable, etc.
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in our canonical source releases. When we can't even get
our official releases right, I don't think it makes sense to dilute our
already thin quality control resources.
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to expect from convenience binaries.
zip -o apache-foo-1.2.3.zip touch-the-rainbow.gif
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been included in this compendium, though
it was removed from the Board meeting agenda and thus will not end up the
Board's minutes. The conversation continued on general@incubator at
http://s.apache.org/ORg.
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Apache: Project Drill
Shepherd notes:
(Dave
of contributing as a shepherd.
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Greets,
The Incubator PMC has VOTEd to add new member Andrei Savu.
Welcome, Andrei!
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Footnotes 1, 2, and 3 are missing. Please provide these links.
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of reviewing and
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In VXQuery's case, though, they still have to get the incubating release out.
To my mind, any podling that achieves that has succeeded -- and even if it
doesn't go on to amass a viable TLP community, the podling has earned a
dignified retirement.
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service. If VXQuery wants to be part of
Apache, they must release.
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Would it be possible for me to get permissions on the wiki so I can submit
a report?
Username is MichaelJoyce
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other interpretations as best we
can.
If VXQuery finds it uncomfortable not to have anything they can show users,
they can solve that by making a release.
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I will collect all of them into a single email and send to general@incubator
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On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 9:52 AM, Till t...@westmann.org wrote:
Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com hat am 22. August 2013 um 18:21
geschrieben:
Let me be blunt: VXQuery needs to make an incubating release.
Personally, I think it's important that we see one before your next
quarterly
now for all our voting needs, including secret
votes with Apache Steve. Web voting would be for the sake of making some
votes easier; we don't have to use it all the time.
Loomio looks hackable actually.
AGPL, though. :\
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. If code can be provided, I think it's
reasonable to petition for Infra resources to maintain a voting service.
Thoughts?
Ideally, Apache Steve would power a web voting app. How close is it to
providing the features we would need?
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denizens are just providing the best
guidance we can based on what seems to have worked in the past.
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Greets,
Here are the due dates for the Incubator's September report:
Wed September 4 -- Podling reports due by end of day
Tue September 10 -- Mentor signoff due by end of day
Tue September 10 -- Shepherd reviews due by end of day
Tue September 10 -- Summary due by end of day
(continuing a conversation which is cross-posted to general@incubator and
vxquery-dev@incubator...)
Hi VXQuery developers,
It's been a month since this exchange about how to succeed in the Incubator
has passed:
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our
troubles.
I hope we meet again. :)
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