necessarily a reflection of the completeness or stability of
the code, it does indicate that the project has yet to be fully endorsed by
the ASF.
Regards,
Marvin Humphrey, on behalf of the Apache Lucy development team and community
hanks!
PS: Here is my +1. Tested on CentOS 5 with Perl 5.10.0 and OS X Snow Leopard
with Perl 5.12.2.
Marvin Humphrey
$ diff -ur apache-lucy-incubating-0.2.0/CHANGES
apache-lucy-incubating-0.2.1/CHANGES
--- apache-lucy-incubating-0.2.0/CHANGES2011-07-18 14:26:58.0 -0700
+++ a
On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 01:57:03PM -0700, Marvin Humphrey wrote:
> Please vote on releasing this candidate as Apache Lucy (incubating) version
> 0.2.1.
This vote has passed with 4 +1 votes from Lucy PPMC members and 3 +1 votes
from Incubator PMC members.
+1 Marvin Humphrey *+
+1
releases which are file-for-file identical to a version-control tag.
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a manner consistent with other successful ASF projects. While incubation
status is not necessarily a reflection of the completeness or stability of
the code, it does indicate that the project has yet to be fully endorsed by
the ASF.
Regards,
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odling might not make it
to graduation, and a lot may have been accomplished during an attempt at
incubation. I think our default policy should be to recognize and celebrate
the contributions that a podling's volunteers made while it was active.
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material. It's less work
to wipe the site and swap in some sort of known-safe replacement.
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nimal effort by the person
performing the retirement. If a template contribution does not materialize in
the next few days from me, though, redirecting to the status page seems like
an OK fallback.
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Apache dev documentation somewhere.
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Nice feature...
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On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 07:04:31PM -0700, Marvin Humphrey wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 10:26:24AM +0200, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
> > > Another option which might be cleaner and less burdensome to administer
> > > would
> > > be to create a boilerplate &quo
es during this week of discussion, and I believe that they will become
valuable and productive participants within Apache.
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g-src.zip.sha1
SHA1(apache-gora-0.1.1-incubating-src.zip)=
74f75361d366b5629a36890e066d36c406c5ee05
Uh oh, "ant test" failed. :( Test output below my sig.
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resolve:
[mkdir] Created dir:
/Users/marvin/Desktop/gora/apache-gora-0.1.1-incubating/gora-tutorial/lib
[ivy
-incubating-rc4
+
scm:svn:http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/gora/branches/0.1.1-incubating/
+
scm:svn:https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/gora/branches/0.1.1-incubating/
+
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/gora/branches/0.1.1-incubating
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) do with it as you will.
If you decide to release these artifacts as is, then congratulations to the
Gora community. :)
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ractically, fluid text boxes are more demanding to design around in terms of
CSS wizardry, spacial visualization skills and web design experience. The
centered-rigid layout will be easier for others to maintain and to keep things
looking right
ons support various kinds of comments as an extension.
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urrent graphic:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-112
https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12478522/egg_logo.png
Nobody objected, but I just got lazy and didn't push it the last mile, onto
the site.
Marv
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 03:09:08PM +0200, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Marvin Humphrey
> wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 08:39:40AM +0100, ant elder wrote:
> >> I don't want to get in the way of those who are doing all this good work
mation tool. Maybe there's a
way to configure it so that it doesn't use "Marvin" to identify itself? Can I
suggest "John" instead? ;)
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ecruit individuals from elsewhere to join us. It would be great if Lucy
could build ties with other projects as productive as those we have with
Lucene.
PS: Chris Mattmann originally said no, too. ;)
Cheers,
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On Thu, Jul 08, 2010 at 04:38:10PM -0700, Chris Hostetter wrote:
> INITIAL COMMITTERS
Simon Willnauer will be joining us as a committer.
Welcome, Simon.
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Upayavira, and Mike McCandless. Expectations will be high... We're going to
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o list all the grant participants as "Exhibit B",
using the following language?
Exhibit B
This collective software grant requires the participation of the following
parties:
* Marvin Humphrey
* Eventful, Inc.
* Peter Karman
...
Are there any other e
arty. Hopefully that's legitimate, and the Alois one will be
as well.
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t;http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ReportingSchedule>,
but I had not removed the placeholder which had been inserted into
<http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/November2010>. It's now been zapped.
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termination, instead
of celebrating what was achieved, we encumber the resumes of our volunteers by
permanently enshrining their project's "problems".
Is it any wonder that podlings linger when we make the alte
ght be a worthy task for its
own sake, providing the ASF a channel to spread its values without incurring
more administrative overhead.
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On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 02:57:57AM +0200, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote:
> Sorry for the silly question but what is 'marvin' ?
Not silly at all! Many people are intrigued by this suave troublemaker
'marvin'.
It's the automated mailer tool which sends out the monthly re
, that
weakens the legal protections upon which we all depend, no?
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tion wouldn't be automatic since
the VP is named in the Board Resolution.
By requiring that a proposed podling still have an ASF Member attached to it,
we ensure that candidates for incubation continue to have access to the
resources that the Champion currently provides in advance of submit
d then would take on
responsibility for herding Mentors.
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, if other IPMC members are dissatisfied with the efforts of their fellow
volunteers, they have the power to overrule them so long as they are willing
to do the work.
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On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 08:18:49PM +, ant elder wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 7:13 PM, Marvin Humphrey
> wrote:
> > Not as frustrating as putting up a release candidate which twists in the
> > wind
> > for weeks waiting for a IPMC member to review because Mentor
are more -1 votes than +1 votes -- but it
might be nice to update that language if it is misleading.
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otes
in parallel, because I don't think it's to our benefit to clog the general@
list with busted vote threads about about broken builds, missing dependencies,
failing tests and so on. Votes should come to general@ only after technical
problems have been worked out.
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our
proposal is accepted, you will be taking on work that you would not otherwise
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Hi,
If no one lodges a formal objection within the next 48 hours, I'll claim lazy
consensus and ask Infra to follow through with setting "@committers = rw" for
svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/lucy.
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On Wed, Dec 07, 2011 at 09:18:18PM -0800, Marvin Humphrey
erstand how minor patches here and there
would work as contributions implicitly licensed under the upstream license.
But are there any precedents for handling major mods?
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On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 12:55:17PM -0600, Hyrum K Wright wrote:
> Please vote:
> [ ] +1 Accept Bloodhound for incubation
> [ ] +0 Don't care
> [ ] -1 Don't accept Bloodhound for incubation (please explain)
+1 (bin
L databases" seems too restrictive if
> it this also supports relational stores. Anyway- the description seems
> to be converging.
>
> +1 (binding) on graduation. -C
Both the release that I reviewed and the Gora community's followup on the
issues that arose from that discussion we
nt
> directory, and then use a Gui difference tool (WinDiff) to show the
> differences.
> Have to ignore SVN directories and (perhaps) EOL differences.
I use "svn export" to avoid the .svn directories, then "diff -ur" on the Unix
command line, optionally with "
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 12:26:49PM +, sebb wrote:
> On 12 January 2012 12:08, Marvin Humphrey wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 11:37:18AM +, sebb wrote:
> >> > How is this most easily accomplished? Checkout tag from SVN then
> >> > manually diff agains
o build up that aspect of the Incubator
How about adding a requirement that podlings put a CONTRIBUTING document at
the top of their VCS tree?
That's an incremental change which fits within the current incubation workflow
and would be easy
t been involved with.
I definitely consider the difficulty in scraping up these votes to be a
significant weakness in how the Incubator operates right now, but I don't have
any ideas about how to improve the situation. :(
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ore aggressive about recruiting from PPMCs, by
making it explicit that PPMC members who both know their stuff and give back
to the Incubator are likely to get nominated for IMPC membership. That would
certainly help ease some of the long-standing problems associated with Men
and how the ASF works which will help your podling succeed over the long haul.
So I think it is in the interest of potential candidates to get involved, even
if the IPMC states that it's not a requirement.
Marvin Humphrey
ate proper diligence and understanding of ASF
procedures?
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al count drops below three. I humbly suggest that we might seek to
expand podling IPMC representation during times of plenty, and that instead of
looking to our beloved usual suspects, we look to standout podling
contributors who have
e "individuals who demonstrate a willingness to contribute"
within the "crucible" of incubation -- to our podlings' detriment and our own.
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[1]
http://blogs.hbr.org/frontline-leadership/2009/02/why-the-military-produces-grea.html
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s, watch them, ask them questions and
participate in their struggle... that's what, in my opinion, will prepare them
to become superior stewards of their projects after graduation.
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beneficiary of these
lessons, but by moving to more of a support role I've probably had to stretch
the furthest, and thus I may have reaped the greatest rewards. (Peter Karman
has stepped forward to handle more leadership tasks, but he was already an
accomplished manager so the role is famil
this boil-the-ocean revamp if it blocks the less ambitious
reforms. An indefinite period where release votes continue to drag on for
weeks is unacceptable.
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Hi,
Just clarifying: this release candidate, RC5, has not yet received any votes
from anyone?
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On Wed, Feb 01, 2012 at 02:51:41PM +0100, Reto Bachmann-Gmür wrote:
> Hello,
>
> While the last release candidate found a lot of acceptance (3 binding +1 in
> the ppmc)
king it clear that the increased autonomy is *earned*.
We want newcomers to internalize ASF values. We want them to understand both
how much we care about doing things the way we do and why.
We also have oversight responsibilities that it would be best if we
relinquished
ying to pick which open source project to spend your time on,
why would you want to stick around an organization that has so much trouble
getting its act together?
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On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 09:31:47PM -0500, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> I have no issue with standing down after 8 years, and Jukka is an excellent
> and active successor.
+1 for Jukka as future chair.
+8 for Noel as past chair.
Marvin Hu
arlier VOTE was held on the Lucy developer's list in which I participated
as a member of the Lucy PPMC; I continue to stand behind my vote in that
context.
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Foundation; and be it further
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ime, we will have feature parity in this branch with the
trunk, which is when we will promote it to the trunk.
I would think that any generic policy would need to take both of those issues
into account.
Marvin Humphrey
> [ ] +1 Recommend The Apache Creadur Proposal To The Board (below)
> [ ] +0
> [ ] -0
> [ ] -1 Do not graduate Rat podling
+1 (binding)
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d "incubating" is not in the archive filename.
Hope this helps as a start at least,
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marvin@smokey:~/Desktop $ gpg --verify aoo-3.4-src.tar.gz.asc
gpg: Signature made Tue Mar 13 00:52:11 2012 PDT using RSA key ID 51B5FDE8
gpg: Good signature from "Juergen Schnmid
isclaimer in either a dedicated DISCLAIMER file
>> or the README. Also, the word "incubating" is not in the archive filename.
>
> I will add it to the README.
>
> Ok we have to add "incubating" to the archive file names
nice to hear objections
now.
Marvin Humphrey
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 3:27 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 11:23 PM, Marvin Humphrey
> wrote:
>> I was a little surprised that the LICENSE file contained only the ALv2, and
>> that NOTICE points at the websites for
ntain an Incubation disclaimer (as described
in the previous section), clearly visible in the main documentation or
README file.
Since shortening doesn't materially change ease of typability or clickability,
I don't see a reason to start down the diff
say they've got
things covered:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/IP_Clearance
It's a complicated project and it's good to provide review, but I'm not
inclined to hassle them much about LICENSE/NOTICE. If a
cubating release, but for AOO I don't think having IPMC
members run a build-and-test check is particularly useful. Not a blocker.
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ss incentive to move.
This was a concern of mine as well.
I'd suggest everything but the website.
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al.
If the policy of source-only releases is confusing to some of our Java
developers, perhaps we should revisit how we vet incubating releases of Java
projects to emphasize this policy.
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check, both now
and in the future.
Are you confident that all the files which match those wildcards were part of
the Oracle SGA or are otherwise properly licensed for ASF usage?
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2012/3/28 Jürgen Schmidt :
> On 3/28/12 12:46 AM, Marvin Humphrey wrote:
>>> It is more or less a pure svn dump.
>>
>> Right -- just with a few files moved around and a bunch filtered out.
>
> yes, we build the src release package as part of a normal build
, though, I don't think it is
actively harmful, because I don't believe we are doing anything which violates
the terms under which multi-licensed products are typically made available.
Therefore, in my opinion we can put this controversy in a queue for
legal-discuss@a.o, to be de
ay from him and are still 100% consonant with both the letter and the intent
of the ALv2.
While Roy's suggestion of referencing licenses spread over multiple files
seems like a perfectly sane alternative, I'd argue against documenting it as
best practice unless HTTPD changes their LICENSE
xt of MIT license, including embedded copyright notice.]
[Full text of GPLv2]
Embedding complete license texts in LICENSE may be verbose, but that is how it
is done right now.
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belongs to svnwc:
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drwxr-sr-x 6 svnwc svnwc 14 Mar 29 02:44 lucy
Ideas?
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at contains irrelevant and
misleading information in a file called "NOTICE-bin.txt" about dependencies
which are not present, but that could change.
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the podling has
assembled detailing the IP clearance process.
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gpg: Signature made Thu Apr 19 02:26:26 2012 PDT using RSA key ID 51B5FDE8
gpg: Good signature from "Juergen Schnmidt "
gpg:
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 12:00 AM, Fabian Christ
wrote:
> I need write access to the incubator Wiki.
I went to go take care of this so Jukka wouldn't have to, but I don't
have write access
yet myself. :) Can someone please add me?
Wiki user: MarvinHumphrey
Thanks,
Ma
utrality an issue here?
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always there in the
Incubator documentation, but for the most part our documentation is more like
a reference manual (with lots of meandering and redundancy -- see
<http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html) than a tutorial or
curriculu
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Apache will aid you in future endeavors.
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I hope you'll still give the project a chance,
Jakob. Given your rep around the ASF, if you contribute as you have to other
projects yet your merit goes unrecognized, I suspect that the Crunch's Mentors
are going to be asking questi
action, the new experience, and the
appreciation all at once.
It would be nice if stuff like this was collected in "Steps to building a
community" documentation somewhere, rather than scattered through the email
archives. I sug
as I can't tell where
my own biases end and I don't want to start a phpBB^H^H^H^H^HJIRA vs email
flame war.
-- Marvin Humphrey, who in moments of weakness fantasizes about the day when
Infra can no longer keep the massive ASF JIRA instance from toppling over and
all the Java projects whose
GitHub pull request notifications to ASF dev
lists for a while now, and there's talk of mirroring pull request comments as
well. If we handle the integration of Github comments as poorly as JIRA
notifications, the potential exists to for
t as JIRA scalability
issues are impacting podlings and projects, I think it's wise for us to take
the situation into account.
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For addit
quences if the project
is not as inviting as it could be.
I still think it would be worthwhile to pursue improvements for our JIRA based
projects, though. For my own selfish reasons, I'd really like to follow
Lucene dev discussions more closely, or be able to scan over Avro's dev list
arc
llment the
convenience of CTR (for projects that use that process), which ought to
provide sufficient incentive to keep people joining up -- yet it also gives
the podling the opportunity to vote people into the PPMC early and often. And
if committers who demonstrate merit are *not* brou
eason is simple: the less time your
signup sheet is out there, the fewer names you'll collect.
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On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 10:09 AM, Ross Gardler
wrote:
> On May 27, 2012 1:55 PM, "Marvin Humphrey" wrote:
>> OK, then how about a place for people to sign up for the podling dev list
>> in advance?
>
> Sure, but to what end?
To welcome people on board, rather
aking charge of destiny and overriding
the flawed participation policies in the Incubator's documentation.
However, I am uncomfortable with the exclusivity of language like "The initial
committers will be made up exclusively from existing contributors".
Marvin Humphrey
there must have been a serious failure of communication between us if
think I'd object to that. :\
So long as something actually gets done to curtail open enrollment and we
aren't still talking about how "piling on" is a problem in 2018, my primary
objective in s
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